How would everyone feel about that? I think they seem to have alot of common feelings about issues such as civil liberties, war on drugs, and many more.
I remember Nadar to be a good guy. btw, if you haven't seen the clip, look for it on youtube, Nadar was DENIED access to the debates in his presidential run.....even when invited. Croonies met him outside in the parking lot (COPS) and made him leave the convention center.
Remember, the media has lied to us about everything for a long, long time. Google, "Operation Mockingbird".....explains everything.
Let me just add my two-cents worth. Sure, Nader made some fumbles like in Unsafe at any Speed, where he condemned the Corvair. The Corvair was a sports car with a 6-cylinder boxer rear engine like a Porsche. It suffered from over steer, and possible fuel leakage from a rear collision, which is due to it being like a racecar. I was a pretty cool car, but not for the average person. He is like Carter in that he is more respected now. I like the fact that he is a consumer advocate and he criticizes insurance companies. He is somewhat socialistic, but he would probably agree with Dr. Paul on foreign policy. Nader is the child of Lebanese immigrants, so he understands the Middle East.
Dr. Paul is well liked and diplomatic, and so is Nader. Dr. Paul could discuss economics with Nader and influence him, since Nader is a reasonable man and he is willing to listen. He really is a good guy, so that is my opinion on the subject.
Nader would shear the miltary budget like it were a herd of llamas.
That is good.
Problem is he would then go about spending all the money on ideas that are about the next worst things to miltary waste ..
Ralph Nader is a socialist. Ron Paul would NEVER ever ever ever ever, join with a socialist because he believes in personal property and economic freedom, socialists including Ralph Nader do not. Paul's ideas run COUNTER to what Nader proposes.
Nader proposed in his speech announcing his run that the problems in America are due to "social injustice" and that he intends to use government to mandate social equality. Ron Paul would balk at such an anti-freedom statement.
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Why play games like this (suggesting Nader -- or anyone)? Doesn't matter who we might think(?) would be the right choice -- that choice simply comes down to who it is RON PAUL would have it be. Are you speaking (doing research) for RON PAUL?
No offense intended. But I see this nothing more than something I personally do each week during the lottery draw -- I daydream. Hasn't changed a damn thing in that regard for me yet. Reality dictates it to be otherwise ;-(
....of creating federal government agencies for every perceived problem is a large part of why things are so bad. Liberals are so sadly mistaken when they do this, because the power that these bureaucratic agencies wield is always seized by the corporations which they in turn use to control their markets. Why Nader and others like him don't seem to get it is beyond me.
Breath some life into this corpse of a campaign. Actually I'd have done that before Super Tuesday.
Buchanan sounds good to me.
The battle isn't with the American people, who would vote for freedom if they knew it were an option, the battle--as you all know--is with the mainstream media doing everything in their power to hide the message.
The U.S. is dead last by our own CIA's estimation of the world's balance sheet comparisons:
h ttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html
Calls for sound, extreme measures, only one guy offering that, our Dr. Paul.
my god, you people are so blinded by this left vs. right bullshit, it's amazing.
why don't you disagree with him on the issues ralph nader raises rather than outright dismissing him based on his political alignment?
you do realize that the system does not care if you're on the left or on the right. hillary clinton is going to be your next president, and it seems ron paul isn't doing much about exposing her.. you know who has? ralph nader.
I don't see it as being strong enough to overcome the media. Nader has been turning into a boon for a while and can't see him really bringing anything to the table that we can actually stand up against the powers that be.
I'm a firm believer that RP's VP needs be nearly ideologicly indentical. So they can't take him out and expect something different.
Right now though if i had to reach across the table and grasp a speculative running mate that i also though could potentially be a winning ticket. I'd say Naomi Wolf. I think it would really take the wind out of HRC sails. The libertyminded brainwashed partyline democrats would be absolutely beside themselves. Anybody snowed over by the idea that Obummer will restore liberty would have to take a listen to what Naomi has to say and that would be our way in.
Alex Jones?!
He is a hack! A conspiracy-theory profiteer! Just because he supports Ron Paul doesn't mean he will get our approval. In fact, his support for Dr. Paul's campaign gives us a bad image. Why don't you and your conspiracy theorist buddies go kill yourselves and leave us the hell alone.
I'll withdraw the Jones nomination forthwith. I'm just real emotional right now because my conspiracy theorist buddies killed themselves when I forwarded your suggestion to them. I'll be logging off now so I can watch some Mel Gibson/Julia Roberts movie on HBO. Good night everyone.
and it is a great car!!!!! Nader is an idiot! He also tried to say the vw was unsafe because of it rear engine design but yet it went on to be the #1 selling car of all time! What a faggot. I could just imagine if he was running the country.....
Friend.. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are nothing alike.
Ron Paul is for liberty and against the using of government force in all areas.
Nader has no problem with government force he simply wants to refocus its efforts on to the environment, he is not for liberty in the same sense of the word as Paul. Nader would take peoples private property (perhaps even businesses) away by rule of law and give it to the government. That is not freedom, at all, in any way shape or form.
I wonder how many in the revolution fail to understand the philosophy of liberty and the Libertarian way.. hmm..
I wonder where in the Constitution it states that the corporations should be protected? Corporate crime is a big issue in this country, and not enough attention is given to it. I don't think there's any problem if Ralph Nader wants accountability for corporate criminals, it does not interfere with our individual rights.
Corporations and monopolies have no loyalty to any nation, that is why they take your jobs elsewhere.
Freedom and liberty are at odds with socialism. When the last US auto maker churns out the last US made automobile, Ralph Nader will have completed his lifes work. Ralph Nader is a parasite in the mold of Jesse Jackson, an opportunist.
What is this? I think I have seen this same post about three times in the last couple of months and it is as useless today as it was then. Nadar is not even close to an appropriate choice in any stretch of the imagination.
People who make this suggestion simply have not studied Ron Paul's ideology. Nader and Paul are opposites and there is no way that this would be compatible.
Please, I am begging you people who make these types of suggestions: Study the candidate's stance on issues and understand how/why a running mate is chosen. Do you understand the difference between limited Federal government and HUGE Federal government? Do you understand the difference between Libertarian and Socialist?
Some people need to review their information because Nader is not only an intellectual, but is all about civic action and protecting consumers from the corrupt corporate system.
Just because someone is favorably viewed by someone doesn't make them a good candidate for vice president.
Admittedly, Ron Paul did float the idea of Kucinich when directly asked about a running mate, but I think this was a strategic move to curry favor with the more left-leaning RP supporters.
Ideally, a RP running mate should have as close to a political philosophy as RP, because anything else would encourage assassination attempts.
Did I miss something? The only person I ever heard RP mention as a potential running mate was live at a rally in SC. Someone asked him about SC gov, Mark Sanford. And all he said was that Mark and him agreed on a lot of things when they served in Congress together. I have never heard RP say anything else about a potential running mate, especially Dennis Kucinich. I heard Dennis say that if he had to choose a Repub. for running mate he would choose RP.
If Ron Paul has actually said he would consider Kucinich, please provide a link because I simply don't believe it. Must be something taken out of context or misquoted. Thank you.
I think it was during a post-debate interview or possibly on a CNN-style interview. I don't remember him saying that he would choose Dennis for a running-mate. The question started with whom he would choose among the republicans for a running mate, and he said that until they changed their ideas, he couldn't choose any of them. Then the interviewer naturally asked if there was anyone on the other side of the aisle he would consider. At that point I think he mentioned something about having a lot of respect for Kucinich (and maybe Gravel) because Dennis was often the only person voting against a certain bill with him. There was not a precise statement that he would consider him to be a running-mate, but in the context of the question, it was tacitly insinuated.
I may seem annoyed at the suggestion on Nader. But if people can't even see the huge and major differences between Paul and Nader, then how will they get RP elected?
There's a really good reason to have political differences, as it keeps us from becoming a dictatorship. These dialectic mindsets just don't jive with freedom. You can't always find complete common ground with everyone just because you agree on one or two issues, and you shouldn't try when it comes to political ideologies. In personal life, it may be different.
I'm in no way agreeing with the RP-Nader thing... but to answer your question, I know many people that like RP not because they like all his positions, but because they love that he is anti-establishment. Someone who values that more than reclaiming specific constitutional ideas could very well see RP and Nader in the same mold (compared with the status-quo).
We had a Corvair and the rear seal Leaked Real Bad
I remember Nadar to be a good guy. btw, if you haven't seen the clip, look for it on youtube, Nadar was DENIED access to the debates in his presidential run.....even when invited. Croonies met him outside in the parking lot (COPS) and made him leave the convention center.
Remember, the media has lied to us about everything for a long, long time. Google, "Operation Mockingbird".....explains everything.
McCain/Nader
More fitting
Never going to happen
And it's still a bad idea...
Nader and Paul not a good fit
Nader is a wanna-be... Ron Paul is the real deal. Nader's 15 minutes of fame will flame-out soon enough.
14:58 and counting
Nader is like a bad Phil Collins song...he just won't go away.
funny!
yes he will...
Troll Thread
Nader is a commi. How about Huck-A-Nader
doubt if it is a troll, just a newbie...enjoy your day!
Really doubt if it is that thought out.
Somebody PLEASE delete these
retarded Nader posts
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
Next Best Thing ;-)
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Sure, Nader made some fumbles
Let me just add my two-cents worth. Sure, Nader made some fumbles like in Unsafe at any Speed, where he condemned the Corvair. The Corvair was a sports car with a 6-cylinder boxer rear engine like a Porsche. It suffered from over steer, and possible fuel leakage from a rear collision, which is due to it being like a racecar. I was a pretty cool car, but not for the average person. He is like Carter in that he is more respected now. I like the fact that he is a consumer advocate and he criticizes insurance companies. He is somewhat socialistic, but he would probably agree with Dr. Paul on foreign policy. Nader is the child of Lebanese immigrants, so he understands the Middle East.
Dr. Paul is well liked and diplomatic, and so is Nader. Dr. Paul could discuss economics with Nader and influence him, since Nader is a reasonable man and he is willing to listen. He really is a good guy, so that is my opinion on the subject.
Spot on about foreign policy ..
Nader would shear the miltary budget like it were a herd of llamas.
That is good.
Problem is he would then go about spending all the money on ideas that are about the next worst things to miltary waste ..
WTF?!
Ralph Nader is a socialist. Ron Paul would NEVER ever ever ever ever, join with a socialist because he believes in personal property and economic freedom, socialists including Ralph Nader do not. Paul's ideas run COUNTER to what Nader proposes.
Nader proposed in his speech announcing his run that the problems in America are due to "social injustice" and that he intends to use government to mandate social equality. Ron Paul would balk at such an anti-freedom statement.
How could you possibly not understand?
I Say Since It Will Be RON PAUL's Job To Pick His VP --
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Why play games like this (suggesting Nader -- or anyone)? Doesn't matter who we might think(?) would be the right choice -- that choice simply comes down to who it is RON PAUL would have it be. Are you speaking (doing research) for RON PAUL?
No offense intended. But I see this nothing more than something I personally do each week during the lottery draw -- I daydream. Hasn't changed a damn thing in that regard for me yet. Reality dictates it to be otherwise ;-(
Nadar's been a presidential candidate
He would never play second fiddle
Absurd.
Nothing personal but I'd suggest a refresher on Ron Paul.
Nader's policies...
....of creating federal government agencies for every perceived problem is a large part of why things are so bad. Liberals are so sadly mistaken when they do this, because the power that these bureaucratic agencies wield is always seized by the corporations which they in turn use to control their markets. Why Nader and others like him don't seem to get it is beyond me.
Would like to see a running mate chosen soon
Breath some life into this corpse of a campaign. Actually I'd have done that before Super Tuesday.
Buchanan sounds good to me.
The battle isn't with the American people, who would vote for freedom if they knew it were an option, the battle--as you all know--is with the mainstream media doing everything in their power to hide the message.
The U.S. is dead last by our own CIA's estimation of the world's balance sheet comparisons:
h ttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html
Calls for sound, extreme measures, only one guy offering that, our Dr. Paul.
Judge Andrew Napolitano would be perfect, IMO...
Nader is a left gatekeeper and a socialist. No way in hell.
my god, you people are so
my god, you people are so blinded by this left vs. right bullshit, it's amazing.
why don't you disagree with him on the issues ralph nader raises rather than outright dismissing him based on his political alignment?
you do realize that the system does not care if you're on the left or on the right. hillary clinton is going to be your next president, and it seems ron paul isn't doing much about exposing her.. you know who has? ralph nader.
I don't see it as being
I don't see it as being strong enough to overcome the media. Nader has been turning into a boon for a while and can't see him really bringing anything to the table that we can actually stand up against the powers that be.
I'm a firm believer that RP's VP needs be nearly ideologicly indentical. So they can't take him out and expect something different.
Right now though if i had to reach across the table and grasp a speculative running mate that i also though could potentially be a winning ticket. I'd say Naomi Wolf. I think it would really take the wind out of HRC sails. The libertyminded brainwashed partyline democrats would be absolutely beside themselves. Anybody snowed over by the idea that Obummer will restore liberty would have to take a listen to what Naomi has to say and that would be our way in.
I assume you are joking.
A pro freedom, small government advocate like Ron Paul is just about the opposite of Ralph Nader who is best described as a fascist/socialist.
Nader = No
"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"
Poster
Are you for real?
www.ronpaul2008.com
There is life at the end of the tunnel my friends!
buchannan would be a great running mate for paul
or ross perot!!!! LOL
Buchannan would be good
Actually, I have enough confidence to think RP would make a lot of good choices.
Devvy Kidd or Alex Jones
are more informed and have the intestinal fortitude to point out the truth.
Alex Jones?! He is a hack! A
Alex Jones?!
He is a hack! A conspiracy-theory profiteer! Just because he supports Ron Paul doesn't mean he will get our approval. In fact, his support for Dr. Paul's campaign gives us a bad image. Why don't you and your conspiracy theorist buddies go kill yourselves and leave us the hell alone.
Uh, sorry.
I'll withdraw the Jones nomination forthwith. I'm just real emotional right now because my conspiracy theorist buddies killed themselves when I forwarded your suggestion to them. I'll be logging off now so I can watch some Mel Gibson/Julia Roberts movie on HBO. Good night everyone.
i drive a corvair..
and it is a great car!!!!! Nader is an idiot! He also tried to say the vw was unsafe because of it rear engine design but yet it went on to be the #1 selling car of all time! What a faggot. I could just imagine if he was running the country.....
It is disturbing that so many people fail to figure Ron Paul out
Friend.. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are nothing alike.
Ron Paul is for liberty and against the using of government force in all areas.
Nader has no problem with government force he simply wants to refocus its efforts on to the environment, he is not for liberty in the same sense of the word as Paul. Nader would take peoples private property (perhaps even businesses) away by rule of law and give it to the government. That is not freedom, at all, in any way shape or form.
I wonder how many in the revolution fail to understand the philosophy of liberty and the Libertarian way.. hmm..
He'd just be blazin' the
He'd just be blazin' the trail of eco-fascim. lol
I wonder where in the
I wonder where in the Constitution it states that the corporations should be protected? Corporate crime is a big issue in this country, and not enough attention is given to it. I don't think there's any problem if Ralph Nader wants accountability for corporate criminals, it does not interfere with our individual rights.
Corporations and monopolies have no loyalty to any nation, that is why they take your jobs elsewhere.
Are you joking?
Ralph nader is a socialist. Did you really not know that?
-jcr
no no no no no no no
Freedom and liberty are at odds with socialism. When the last US auto maker churns out the last US made automobile, Ralph Nader will have completed his lifes work. Ralph Nader is a parasite in the mold of Jesse Jackson, an opportunist.
What is this? I think I have
What is this? I think I have seen this same post about three times in the last couple of months and it is as useless today as it was then. Nadar is not even close to an appropriate choice in any stretch of the imagination.
I'll say it again...
Ralph Nader: Unelectable at any speed!
Maybe a Corvair will take him out...
.
Can I have some of what
Can I have some of what you're smokin'?
With all due respect to the person who posted this
People who make this suggestion simply have not studied Ron Paul's ideology. Nader and Paul are opposites and there is no way that this would be compatible.
Please, I am begging you people who make these types of suggestions: Study the candidate's stance on issues and understand how/why a running mate is chosen. Do you understand the difference between limited Federal government and HUGE Federal government? Do you understand the difference between Libertarian and Socialist?
Well actually I have heard RP say some good things about
RN. It would be kinda like RP and Dennis Kucinich, they sound like total opposites by really not.
Ralph Nader is an intellectual like RP and most importantly, he is for the middle class and opposed to corporate abuse of power.
Thank you...
Some people need to review their information because Nader is not only an intellectual, but is all about civic action and protecting consumers from the corrupt corporate system.
No. Only about 85%
No. Only about 85% opposites.
Uhm
Just because someone is favorably viewed by someone doesn't make them a good candidate for vice president.
Admittedly, Ron Paul did float the idea of Kucinich when directly asked about a running mate, but I think this was a strategic move to curry favor with the more left-leaning RP supporters.
Ideally, a RP running mate should have as close to a political philosophy as RP, because anything else would encourage assassination attempts.
When did RP float the idea of Kucinich?
Did I miss something? The only person I ever heard RP mention as a potential running mate was live at a rally in SC. Someone asked him about SC gov, Mark Sanford. And all he said was that Mark and him agreed on a lot of things when they served in Congress together. I have never heard RP say anything else about a potential running mate, especially Dennis Kucinich. I heard Dennis say that if he had to choose a Repub. for running mate he would choose RP.
If Ron Paul has actually said he would consider Kucinich, please provide a link because I simply don't believe it. Must be something taken out of context or misquoted. Thank you.
I think it was...
I think it was during a post-debate interview or possibly on a CNN-style interview. I don't remember him saying that he would choose Dennis for a running-mate. The question started with whom he would choose among the republicans for a running mate, and he said that until they changed their ideas, he couldn't choose any of them. Then the interviewer naturally asked if there was anyone on the other side of the aisle he would consider. At that point I think he mentioned something about having a lot of respect for Kucinich (and maybe Gravel) because Dennis was often the only person voting against a certain bill with him. There was not a precise statement that he would consider him to be a running-mate, but in the context of the question, it was tacitly insinuated.
I can't remember
It was definitely on a youtube clip.
He said "he wasn't at all happy with the other republicans, but that he had a lot of respect for kucinich". Or something like that.
Well, that is different from suggesting a running mate
I may seem annoyed at the suggestion on Nader. But if people can't even see the huge and major differences between Paul and Nader, then how will they get RP elected?
There's a really good reason to have political differences, as it keeps us from becoming a dictatorship. These dialectic mindsets just don't jive with freedom. You can't always find complete common ground with everyone just because you agree on one or two issues, and you shouldn't try when it comes to political ideologies. In personal life, it may be different.
I'm in no way agreeing with
I'm in no way agreeing with the RP-Nader thing... but to answer your question, I know many people that like RP not because they like all his positions, but because they love that he is anti-establishment. Someone who values that more than reclaiming specific constitutional ideas could very well see RP and Nader in the same mold (compared with the status-quo).
Ralph Nader loves the State
He wants to expand its size and scope. That is unacceptable to a libertarian...