GAWD Are we in trouble!!!
Posted February 24th, 2008 by jetmba
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With nobody knowing just what the hell Obama even stands for (except that he was recently rated the most liberal senator to currently hold office), all that we know is that he gives inspiring speaches.
His Muslim background CANNOT be overlooked. His father was raised Muslim (its a fact) - his mother divorced him but married ANOTHER Muslim (Obama's stepfather) and attended Muslim school for two years (also fact).
ALL THIS STUFF will come out to the general public AFTER Obama wins the nomination. The Democrats are aware of it but even Hillary's camp isn't going to play the card.
Certainly they should KNOW that given his background he is unlelectable. (And thank god for THAT - when we don't know what he will do ANYWAY).
That leaves McCain - a man wh has nevr met a conflict he didn't like. This guy will have us in every conflict on earth - and poised to stay there for the next 100 years.
With Russia getting more powerful again and doing its share of sabre rattling - its only a matter of time before McCain pops us into WWIII.
What have the American people gotten themselves INTO.
Is it too late for a DO-OVER?????
We NEED Ron Paul!
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it's coming when Christians and Muslims will be brothers against the global religion.
Americans have lost their way
We've almost made Osama bin Laden a folk hero, to the point we are "delighted" to install Obama Hussein Barak as our Commander in Chief. Merle Haggard said it right, "Snowball headed for Hell". Nobody cared enough to turn out and vote for Ron Paul, for whatever reason. You can't blame the press brownouts entirely. It's just people either don't care, or out of those that do, they're more interested in "American Idol" themed politics. Real issues just don't matter anymore to this population.
We are in trouble !!!
All three major candidates (Clinton, Obama, and McCain) are tied to the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Club.
None of these individuals are going to close the borders and will support more North American Union actions.
Everyone that has health insurance has an id card. If national health insurance becomes law, this will be our national id in disguise.
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In any other year
neither McCain nor Obama would have been considered electable. Just goes to show how far we've come.
The Muslim stuff is unimportant here's the real dirt
Fortune Favors the Bold
The Brizienski (is that how you spell it?) Connection. Doug B. is a nasty CFR guy. Check out his book from 1997, The Grand Chessboard. He is close to Obama, I believe through his wife.
the Muslim thang is a red
the Muslim thang is a red herring !
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Oh please.........
There is plenty of proof it is a threat. I think their religion is overbearing in their stance against non muslims. People just refuse to see it. Remember Bush said we all worship the same god (NOT) and that the Muslim religion is a religion of peace. An article at world net daily was talking about a study done on the mosques in the US. The majority of them are teaching anti western (that's us) as well as ani jewish materials. I think Farah himself goes overboard in his ideas about islamofascism but it is a force to be reconed with. They do hate you because we (in general) do not pray to allah. THAT IS FACT...................
I think all religions are overbearing
Fortune Favors the Bold
but we have alot of pro-peace muslim supporters.
I'm a christian, John,
do I appear to be overbearing? Some christians forget that some will refuse to hear the word. God actually said he would send them "strong delusions" and they will never hear what god is saying. I don't agree with the teachings of the churches of today. They are contaminated with and confused about "laws" of man and man made customs, compared to what the lord says. He (the lord) never took away anyones free will. He says what he expects and if you choose not to obey then he also tells us the concequences. It is the very nature of man to sin, some just do not believe they themselves (overbearing christians) are doing so. They are on their soap box condeming you and blind to their own sins!!
i believe...
"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." --Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." --Thomas Jefferson
Obama
Is no Muslim..if he was hillary would be screamming it out loud..in case you noticed hillary is becoming quite desperate and would stop at nothing..All this crap has been debunked...
Don't b fooled
Oh , HI, it's you again lol racking the muck huh? Hillary isn't stupid, she'd be bashed for being politically incorrect and a hater of freedom of religion.
Oh please
Who cares if he's Muslim? They even have photos, released by I believe the Clinton camp, where Obama is wearing Muslim clothes. What do you mean they won't touch this stuff?
Eric Hoffer
This just in
http://www.twocircles.net...
It's about time a large
It's about time a large group of Muslims got together to declare their unified rejection of terrorism on no uncertain terms. They are too often silent, for fear of being critical of their fellow Muslims.
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Liberty for Dummies
Please lose the despair
Fight for freedom...it's way more fun than freaking out over the creeps. They do what creeps do, they act like creeps.
Forget about them and tell the truth....it works.
Oh, this just in
Gathering of Indian Muslims declare terrorism un-Islamic
Deoband (UP): A large gathering of Muslim scholars representing different schools of thoughts and Muslims organizations unanimously declared that terrorism has no place in Islam and all terror activities are un-Islamic.
The anti-terrorism conference organized by Darul Uloom Deoband and attended by about 10,000 scholars from all over India issued a declaration at the end of the conference, here today. "Killing of innocents is not compatible with Islam. It is anti-Islamic," read the declaration.
http://www.twocircles.net...
How Noble of Them
Couintless thousands have been murdered while Muslims remained mute on terrorism. I'm glad to finally see some form of adknowledgement and ownership but too little too late. Gee who would have thought that murder and spirituality aren't compatible?
I think this is a very positive event
Fortune Favors the Bold
As I said...
MSM fed filth is hard to get rid of... This is just one statement out of thousands -dating even before 2001- from Muslim scholars against violence, but did u expect to see this on the CNN front page?
Peace
Now, all they have to do is
Now, all they have to do is convince the folks with bombs strapped around their chests.
Re: Not sure how much is true.
Reply to a posting by Tramp on Muslims further below:
As a Muslim it is disappointing to say the least, seeing this kind of MSM fed bigotry from fellow RP supporters! But I am not surprised, it takes years... decades... to to get rid of the mental filth dumped by the Old Media. So let me provide a few answers according to the four authoritative schools of Traditional Islamic Jurisprudence (Hanafi, Shaafii, Hambali, Maliki)...
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
Theologically - No ( Because his allegiance is to Allah?)
Isnt that true for ANY religious person? Why can't a person worship One God (please dont repeat the silly moon god myth!) as the Creator and Sustainer of all humanity, while respecting the rights of all his sisters/brothers in humanity- also commanded by God?? Especially since Islam makes it OBLIGATORY on a Muslim to follow the law (rules of Public order) of the country he or she lives in (unless it is tyranny).
Religiously - No
Why not? Is America a religion? Haven't non-muslims lived and flourished in Muslim countries (Spain, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestinian Territories) for a thousand years? Any religion not accepted by God except Islam refers to the hereafter. In this world, a Muslim is commanded to treat his brother human fairly and kindly.
Scripturally - No. . . (Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam?)
These are the five Pillars of Islam: Belief in monothiesm, 5 daily Prayers, fasting in the month of Ramadan, Yearly charity to the poor, and the pilgrimage or Hajj (once in a lifetime). How does any of this contradict with being an American?
Geographically - No (Because his allegiance is to Mecca?)
Allegiance? It is the direction in which we pray and is definitely holy to us, just as Jerusalem is holy to Christians and Jews. So your point is....??
Socially - No (Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews): The verses you are talking about in the Quran talk about taking the enemies of Muslims as allies over fellow Muslim citizens. This is NOT about day to day interactons with civilian non-Muslims.
Politically - No (Because he must submit to the mullahs?) In fact there is NO priestly hierarchy in Islam. Anyone can study religion and preach it or perform any of the functions of 'Mullahs'. Another fact: Traditional Muslim scholars argue AGAINST any war against America or non-Muslims, preferring to resolve disputes through dialogue. It is only a monority of those who re-interpret Islam according to their whims (the modernists and salafis) who talk about violence and by NO MEANS is any Muslim obligated to follow their ridiculous interpretations! In fact they are condemned in no uncertain terms by classical scholars.
Domestically - No (Because he is instructed to marry four Women?) How many Muslims in America have four wives (0%) ? The Quran is the ONLY scripture on earth which says "marry only one"! ... "Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one." [Al-Qur’an 4:3]
I dont want to make this too long to read, anyone interested can verify these statements with any senior Muslim scholar belonging to any of the four schools of Jurisprudence. Also check out the following links for more information:
www.albalagh.net (website of a very well-respected Hanafi Scholar from pakistan, Mufti Taqi Uthmani)
http://www.themodernrelig...
http://www.themodernrelig...
Lets also talk about why a Muslim can be a Ron Paul supporter:
1. Islam FORBIDS counterfiet money (fed reserve!)
2. Islam forbids pre-emptive war (yes, against non-Muslims too!!)
3. Islam encourages Muslims to stand up against tyranny if possible (yes, forming alliances with honest and upright non-muslims is definitely allowed).
Peace and love for my brothers in humanity struggling for Justice
- from a Muslim Ron Paul Supporter
Thank you for the post
But keep this in mind. I think many would have felt differently if more Muslims had come out and condemned the violence loudly and clearly. That is what I was waiting for and never heard it. But I have certainly heard and experienced first hand many Muslims condemning the United States and all it stands for loudly and clearly.
Not sure what you mean....
Almost every major Muslim organization in America and abroad has been condemning extremism and violence, at least after 2001. Go to any MAJOR Muslim website and more likely than not you will see a statement against terrorism.
The only reason I can think of why you have not heard more from Muslims is the MSM, which has treated Muslims the same way it treats RP... ignore the positive side, pull out old skeletons to defame, guilt by association, etc etc. Other than the fact that most Muslims (including myself) are too scared in this country to speak out anything at all... after all the detentions and false charges..
Peace
Many did
Fortune Favors the Bold
It just wasn't widely reported. If you had been following alternative media sources back then, you would have seen it.
I wasn't
but I do now. I honestly hope I am wrong and that Muslims want the best for this country. I hope that Muslims here are encouraged to respect this nation and it's laws and traditions. Perhaps a bit more outreach would help.
McCain is not electable
Not to worry about McCain. He will implode within the next few months. He is running out of money, credibility, and self-control. He is his own worst enemy. He is quite prone to stupidity, such as indicating that Lieberman will play a role in his administration (there goes the anti-Zionist vote), and his careless Vicki Iseman sex/lobby fun has dampened the enthusiasm of the moral "majority". Added to this, it has to be admitted that he does look rather unhealthy. This will make his potential supporters wonder about just WHO would take his place in the event that he would be unable, by reason of health, be President.
Christian, Jewish, Muslim,
Christian, Jewish, Muslim, the are all sects of the same religion!!!! When are people going to accept that! The all follow the same god!
Just because someone is Christian does that mean they are going to go dress in their KKK sheets and linch negros? NO!!!!
SO...not every Muslim is going to join a jihad on America and kill everyone!
Every religion has it's extremists. People need to look past their intolerance's and see that every person is exactly that...a person. Not MUSLIM, Not a JEW, not a CHRISTIAN, but a PERSON! A HUMAN BEING!
You would think that a thousand years of fighting and endless pointless deaths would teach people something!!!
As long as Prophets and Books
delineate between peoples and Gods there will be conflict. Each religion singles itself out as the one and only true faith and further declares that non-believers are evil and to be condemned.so how can they all be the same when the religions themselves say otherwise?
We do NOT follow the same god!!
That is what Bush said. NOT TRUE. Secular humanism is suppose to be "secular" when in reality it IS a religion. The UN is engulfing all churches into a global church / religion.......... Many people lack knowledge of the WORD.
Your thesis is not true, but it's EXACTLY what the UN WANTS
Your thesis is not true, but it's EXACTLY what the UN WANTS everyone to think; hence the "United Religions" as the religious arm of the UN.
One big happy pagan world, worshiping whatever crap the UN dreams up as the One World Religion. Tower Of Babel Part II.
"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord" - as in Jesus Christ the Messiah and only Son of God.
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G.W.F. Hegel
"The one thing we have learned from history is that we have learned nothing from history" -- Hegel
That is nice talk. But the
That is nice talk. But the reality is, individuals from other religions don't see us of one, and they push their agenda. And if we close our eyes and ignore the facts we'll once again end up on the bottom, and they will be on top making all the decision for yee the sheeple. Mark my word. They know how to fool silly Christians. They've done it many times and it was easy. That is why we are in such a deep sh*t now. Just be careful and don't let them squeeze by without being outed.
Yes, or then
since NO ONE ever seems to be able to come to that conclusion, then maybe SOMEONE is wrong! Hmmm, could it be you.
Muslim vs Jew
It is interesting how people feel unhindered in their discussion of muslims and saying all the things about them without fear of being labeled. But yet no one even dares mention anything about jews, even the word jew is feared. Don't we all know that those international bankers are mostly jews, and that the so hated corrupt globalists, are just a euphemism for zionists. But dare not say that word, or you will be called "anti-semite". Why not anit-islamite, or no anti-white (when discussing Hillary Clinton) for example.
Under Ron Paul's
system, we are all just individuals. All of us. Some good individuals and some bad. Wll different flavors or color and religion.
That is good. We just need
That is good. We just need to make sure that the same bad individuals of one religion don't end up on top running things while we go through all the struggle and sacrifices.
Oh gee,
I do so prefer the reptile people conspiracy. Can't we all just unite to repel the alien overlords? ;-)
Sure we can all get along.
Sure we can all get along. Just make sure the same individuals that are screwing us up now, don't end up on top again and be running things their old way again.
My parents
My parents raised me Luthern..I attended Sunday school every Sunday for 10 years..Then I was confirmed into the Luthern Church at age 16...And yet to this day I do not now nor did I ever believe in god...Obama is no Muslim !!
once again the troll known
once again the troll known as betterhalf has ALL the answers... saul4paul... just go away! you are an absolute joke! you must be obamas ass clown!
Being atheist or agnostic
Being atheist or agnostic makes you a troll?
obama
Is no muslim..every sane person knows that..if he was hillary would be screaming it to the rafters
So are you basically saying
So are you basically saying that Obama has turned his back on the religion upon which he was raised?
What else would he be willing to turn his back on in order to gain a few more votes?....
I just agree with the "WE ARE IN TROUBLE PART"
In the world's broad fields of battle. In the bivoac of life. Be not like dumb driven cattle...be a HERO in the strife.
You are lying about Obama having a islamic background
You sir are a lying sack of... CNN showed decisivly that the school sO bama attended etc.. were not religious etc.. The verified it was a school for foriegn dignataries and did not have any religous bent..
I HATE Fing liar republicans.. sho shut your trap when you have NO CLUE what the heck your talking about
Remember God will send all Liars to hell.. and you will have a nice seat there.. Repent now..
Obama is probably more Christian than
the other Council on Foreign Relations members he has been running against. Especially Hillary.
I'm voting for a non-globalist.
I'm voting for Ron Paul.
the election is in november
the election is in november
Not sure how much is true.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
I have no idea how much of this is true as it was sent to me by someone else. But even if some is, I would say it presents a problem.
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - No. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.
Religiously - No. . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran).
Scripturally - No. . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - No ... . . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - No. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - No. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically - No. . . Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually - No. . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - No. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - No. . . . Because when we declare 'One nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation.... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish..it's still the truth.
You better believe it.
The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. . ...
And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our President? You have GOT to be kidding!
Wake up America !
Obama even says if he wins the election, he will be sworn in on the Quran---not a Bible!
Footnote: He was sworn in on the Quran for his current office and he refuses to pledge allegiance to the United States or put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is played!!!
The Muslems have said they will destroy us from within.....
Hello!!!!
Having a Muslem president would seem to fit the bill!
Would you trust this man with our national secrets?????
Then Why Did They Say These Things???
"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." --Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." --Thomas Jefferson