Has the CFR infiltrated US!
Think about it.
I would not put it past them to hire a dozen people to discredit Dr. Paul and destroy morale by infiltrating his supporter's sites.
Think about it.
I almost threw in the towel on you all. But then I thought about that. So I am staying.
Any thoughts on that?
Peace
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I don't think they are worried about us--
They have much bigger fish to
fry!Owning the whole world is a very ambitious undertaking!!!!!
In fact, You just may be that infiltrator
Of course. But always speak the truth.
Complete F#ckin Rogues... lol
In the world's broad fields of battle. In the bivoac of life. Be not like dumb driven cattle...be a HERO in the strife.
Can I say something?
I don't care who they employ. These runners for big bogey people have kids and families as do the media frontmen and womwn, etc. The economic fan is going into full speed in a few months and will blow s~~t everywhere. You get dropouts and deserters in all wars and I trust that Ron Pauls' message will reach out to everybody when the war/economy issues become real in time for the election. Only Ron Pauls' scholars understand what is about to hit us. The vast majority of Brits and americans are day dreaming. They will wake up in good time. I'm sure of it.
'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated'.-fip -U.K
You know, I've been
You know, I've been discouraged at times about the campaign, and I have come on here and voiced some frustration about some issues, but I'm not from the CFR. I'm a human being who feels bad that his candidate has been either maligned or ignored, when in reality he has so many of the answers our nation desperately needs. I don't have a problem with people getting upset and frustrated and voicing it here. Although there could be plants from other campaigns here, I doubt that the Council on Foreign Relations cares much about this website. Of course, saying that will probably make some people think I am a troll or a CFR plant. Oh well.
Ron Paul 2008!
Infiltration or not......
So glad you are staying, my friend. Your input and participation is appreciated.
We're watching!
I'm a member of the CFR and I'm watching really closely.
me too!
I joined the Camp For Retards last summer.
I loved it.
I made a great wallet, too bad it's empty due to unfair taxes.
I made a macaroni portrait, but had to eat it due to UN controlled food shortage.
I tried to learn archery, but was disarmed by the counselors, as I was deemed a terrorist for making a wallet and macaroni portrait.
lol
I shouldn't laugh, but I did anyway.
LOL
Just LOL
The great tragedy of Science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact.
- Thomas H. Huxley
Of course they are. Very important topic.
With trillions of dollars and world domination at stake don't you think THEY could afford to spare somebody's time to stink up this website and every other potential forum for the ideas of liberty?
I would be shocked if THEY didn't.
The trick is immunizing ourselves (as much as possible) against THEIR poisonous ideas and fragmenting tactics. In fact I think I will start a new thread to discuss just how we can do this.
r u kidding? Infiltration, subversion is the name of the game!
Please don't be so naive as to think not. They are guarding their empire on every level. just look at the first NH ads,. How bad can they get before you realize that something is up. The disconnect between the HQ and the grassroots. The HQ should have had a much better website. They should have been streaming info through their website so we could see that they are in action and moving along. This would have encouraged us fired us up and motivated us to even more levels of activity in promoting Ron Paul.
I almost never go on the official website. There seems to be more there now.
But Ron Paul needed some help in expressing himself. There were issues that he did not clarify or said in a way that people could better understand.
He came away sounding like a nut by saying he wants to get rid of the FBI and the CIA. Someone at HQ should have caught that and confronted Ron Paul and tell him to say it more like this: I want to improve our intelligence agencies performance by placing the CIA under the National Security Agency. The FBI under another one of the other already existing intelligence agencies of which there are over eighteen. This will eliminate a lot of waste by cutting out duplicating bueracracies. It will enhance cooperation between the various intelligence agencies. Thus eliminating the lapse in intelligence that occurred prior to 911 and could have prevented it. So by doing this we will greatly improve our intelligence gathering and preventing future attacks on the US. This consolidation will also save a bunch of money!
I could go on but you get the idea...
Ron Paul himself has even
Ron Paul himself has even stated that from the beginning he thought the campaign would be about getting his ideas across rather than actually gaining the presidency. But his tune changed at the end of the 3rd quarter last year when the donations went way up. Would that make Ron Paul subversive to his own campaign, or a troll? I'm sure there are those who were and are out to destroy the campaign, but even RP had his doubts along the way.
Ron Paul 2008!
What is the CFR and how is it best described
one word GREED, this was created by the bankers,lawyers,churches,
and most of all by the laziness of the duty that each and every American have and that is to there God and country.
Let them infiltrate when they are exposed then we can tell them what the REAL American view is of the way our country should be now and forever.
to my brothers & sisters in freedom.
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
Sir Winston Churchill, Speech, 1941, Harrow School
British politician (1874 - 1965)
at the risk of annoying everyone regrettably, i'm sending this long email very spontaneously in the hope that it will both inform & inspire you in some measure as we approach a historical day for texas, for freedom, & for its contemporary messenger, our rare & honorable elder, dr. paul.
i was just going to cut & paste a story that inspired me immensely when i first heard it, & it follows, but before i clicked send another similar topic snapped from a tangent to the forefronts of my brain, & i feel oddly compelled to share it.
generally speaking, i do not like secrets, but i particularly dislike those that lend themselves to the suppression of our people. the same as john f. kennedy did not like them, stating in what is been said to have been his last speech (correct me when i'm wrong), "ladies & gentlemen, we are, as a people, inherently & historically opposed to secret socities, to secret oaths, & to secret proceedings. the very word secrecy is repugnant, in a free & open society.. etc."
so i'm staying up too late to offer you something to ponder,.what i consider to be a rather curiously conflicted & wondrous, wretched little secret told to me by an acquaintance who seemed entirely sincere when he stated that he was a 33rd degree freemason. a somewhat reluctant or disgruntled freemason it would seem,
because one day out of the blue he asked me if i would like to hear "the punchline to the 33rd degree of freemasonry."
not being a freemason myself, but from my own very limited knowledge of freemasonry, i understood that in each of the 33 degrees of the scottish rite, a secret or secrets are revealed to the initiate.
naturally, i assumed "THE PUNCHLINE of the 33rd degree" meant he was offering to reveal THE SECRET of this 33rd & penultimate degree.. to me?! no oaths of secrecy or stipulateions required.
an ever curious knowledge seeker, to the point of addiction some might argue, i was rapt with anticipation - thrilled to hear, as he seemed actually to be quite serious.
so while i can't prove that this statement of his is true, this is what he said:
"the PUNCHLINE to the 33rd degree of freemasonry, is, "within each and every human being, there exists unlimited potential. WHATEVER YOU DO, do NOT tell the masses."
So.. to all of you who are looking ahead at the obstacles we're now facing together only to look inside yourselves & feel insecure about our ability to regain control our future, UNDERSTAND - there are people in positions of power who BELIEVE IN *YOUR* UNLIMITED POTENTIAL, whether you recognize it in yourself or not - THEY ARE JUST UNWILLING TO ADMIT IT, FOR FEAR OF ENABLING YOU TO EMBRACE IT.
an e-toast! to former masters of limitation
as we realize our potential together.
"willing is not enough; we must do. knowing
is not enough; we must apply." - bruce lee
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i hope you find the following bit of non-fiction a further source of inspiration, as I do.
A Lesson From The Unstoppable Potato Farmer
"You may never have heard of him, but for many years now, Cliff Young has been one of my heroes. In 1988 when he was 61 years old, Cliff showed up to compete in a 600 kilometer race between Sydney and Melbourne Australia. Far more grueling than a marathon, this five day racing event attracts only the best of the best, world class runners, the kind of athletes who know all there is to know about their sport and routinely break records to prove it.
Cliff Young was not that kind of athlete. In fact, he had never run in a race like this before and, to make matters worse, he showed up that day in 1988 wearing overalls and work boots covered by galoshes. No one considered him a runner – everyone considered him a joke.
When asked by the media what made him think he was qualified for such a race, and what he had done to condition himself for the run, Cliff answered honestly that he was a farmer, not an athlete. His personal trainers had not been professional running coaches who understood the sport, but rather the cows and pigs on his farm – chasing them on foot had gotten him in shape.
Cliff was a real oddity – not only was he too old and dressed inappropriately, he ran with a shuffle – he didn’t pick up his legs well, and as the race began, people along the sidelines yelled to get the old man off the track before he killed himself.
It was obvious that Cliff just didn’t know any better. Living in the outback where televisions and newspapers were still a rarity and before the Internet, Cliff was unaware of how such races are run – for example, that runners go for eighteen hours and then sleep for six to rest for the next day – Cliff didn’t realize it was impossible to do otherwise, and so, he just kept going. And going. And going.
Had Cliff finished the race in third or fourth, or even tenth place, his story would have been remarkable, especially since many of his opponents were a third his age. But he didn’t finish third or fourth – he finished first, stepping across the finish line far ahead of the second place runner, possibly because he wasn’t aware of all the “facts” that said he couldn’t. Cliff not only won the race, he cut a day and a half off the world record time!"
It’s been almost twenty years since cliff ran that record-breaking race. every once in a while, as you're considering your goals & whether or not they are are insurmoutable, think about cliff, the old potato farmer and let his story inspire you into action.
i want to thank you, YES YOU, for everything that you are
doing, for everything that you have done, & for all of your
future efforts for the sake of our freedom & for this campaign.
"it's not the size of the dog in the fight,
it's the size of the fight in the dog."
- mark twain
all the best,
- jonathan
there's no need to leave
Stay. Create. Enjoy. Educate. Vent.
Besides, it beats sudoku!
“I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet.”
Rodney Dangerfield
I'm CFR Smart Asses
You grassroot rats. You caught me and my neocons. You bunch of smart asses. Yes we are infiltrating you. We're scared shitless because we're losing control of the masses. Herding sheep isn't easy you know. Okay, so we're evil and we want power. So what!. If you grassrooters expose us for the scum we are, a domino effect will take place and the entire planet will know how so few of us rich, powerfull and evil people are near in control of this planet. Now stop this foolishness and let us carry on with our NWO. Stop flying like eagles and herd yourselves or i'll sic the border collies on you all.
Canuck for Ron Paul
I agree with you 100%
When I first came here in May or June the site was totally different. It ran like a well oiled machine, as the site got more popular I noticed some changes.
I don't know who they were but they started asking a lot of personal questions and opinions. They also started using tactics to try to divide and conquer.
Stay and be sure to watch G. Edward Griffin video on this forum it is excellent and help you understand what we are up against.
Think about this for a few minutes.
Do you really think that the CFR as an organization would hire people to be subversive? I think there's plenty ignoramuses that do that work for free for them with no prompting whatsoever.
/end sarcasm
Of course they have
assuming that they would ignore us is what they want and how they have controlled society for so long.
I also urge you to research into this further. It is not the CFR they are part of it, but, there is more to it than a policy group.
There are numerous "anti state" websites that are completely infiltrated. Go study and figure out who they are. On the surface they are against the status quo, but, they are part of the status quo.
Are you kidding? We are to small? They don't pay attention to us?
We are the feel good grass roots media story of the century. It is without question the biggest human interest story of our generation and where are we?
Not one newspaper or network has given us jack and you know it. Editors LIVE for stories like this are you kidding?
This is one of the biggest concerted media blackouts ever and you say they don't care about us...what!?
They have pissed on, maginalized, trivialized and demonized everything we and Dr. Paul have done...everything!
Research the peace movement in the United States. NOT ONE SUCCESS in 50 years. That movement is hopelessly torn apart. They can't even agree on what day it is.
Any group that presents a threat to the status quo is infiltrated and polarized..........listen to Dr. Paul...he si the only one to listen to.
BTW this board is LOADED with "so called" supporters. Just listen to Dr. Paul. Do not listen to them.
Research! The truth will set you free.
T
How many votes did RP get ?
300,000 - 400,000 ?
Now that might be a good start, or it might be a flash in the pan, or it might be the most we will ever get, given some of the people that support the campaign. We will find out.
But consider
Obama gets more votes than that in New York, despite the funny business.
There are more Bloods and Crips than there are Ron Paul supporters.
There are more members of the Columbian Drug cartels.
There are way more illegal aliens
Number wise, we are not that significant. Activity wise we are a bit better, but the fact is internet support DID NOT translate into votes.
If you want to fight the CFR, and have a chance, you are going to have to be more realistic.
Ironman
That's what work is for. The vast majority are not ACTIVE.
It's got to be more than
It's got to be more than that. He got over 400,000 in the general election in '88 with a far less effective campaign. Granted, more people vote in the general than the primary.
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431,750 in 1988
Remember, there have been lots of caucuses, where a few thousand votes is significant.
Given the national polls, you might estimate that he would get 5% in a national election, whcih means there might be 6 mil willing to vote for RP, of that, how many are active supporter ? a few hundred thousand only, certainly not more than 1 million - there are 30 million illegals and counting.
This few people, absent any force multiplier, like exceptional intelligence or training or control of important resources, are not a threat to the CFR. The internet has proven to be only a minor force multiplier.
I think it would be naive
to assume they have no representation in our ranks. All their tactics in the past would indicate that there are those who are here to observe and be on the spot should any action be deemed necessary. Even here on this site, we are contantly bombarded by supposed Paulites saying discouraging and infuriating things to cause dissension. But, at this point I don't think we are even considered a factor.
Yeah, 4500 of the worlds most influencial people
are monitoring the DP, subversives that we are. Somehow I doubt it. The CFR doesn't worry about such small fry. Especially those that are prepared to bunker down and start shooting. While I agree that there may come a time when it will be necessary for us to defend our rights by exercising them I do not think that we are anywhere near that depth of need yet. Are you bunker-folk paying taxes still? For those who answered no I hope they are given enough time in their jail routine to read my reply. For the rest perhaps you should take it down a notch and look for a peaceful solution to our problems, as Dr. Paul has suggested on numerous occasions? Instead of buying an extra $50 of 180 grain federal you should donate it to Dr. Paul.
If the CFR is exerting too much influence in government then all we have to do is lessen the power that the government has at hand. We do this by winning converts at the grass-root level and forcing change from the bottom up.
doubtful
I don't think they really care about us, our numbers are very small, and we are not very influential. All they really needed to do was to have the media say "Conspiracy" a few times on TV, and then add a few "Nazis", and then ignore us.
We are back at Ghandi's "ignore them" stage, having proven almost completely impotent in the short run. RP rarely breaks 5% in the polls.
Of course, if there ar eenough delegates, and they can influence the Republican party, well they might blink, but I am not holding my breath.
And as far as the howling critics like Alex Jones that yells through a megaphone at the Bilderbergs, and those "shocking" youtube videos, I'm sure they don't even notice, and move ahead with their agendas completely unaware the they even exist, that's the level of impotency of these laughing stock critics.
There's a big difference
There's a big difference between throwing in the towel on Ron Paul and his platform and throwing in the towel on Daily Paul. One is about core beliefs and principles and the other is a website you like to visit. I don't agree with much of what is written here now but no comment has never threatened, poisoned or dimmed my liberty belief system, nor I suspect the beliefs of many who left DP long ago. Anyone who reads here and comes away with "you know, maybe socialism is better than capitalism" is someone who would have derailed someday anyway.
-JP
Although there is "stuff" on
DP that I don't agree with, I am quite certain that reading and posting on here has my beliefs stronger. Some folks say things in a way that really resonates with me. Although frustrating at times, I am thankful for DP.
I Would Think That Would Make Good Sense -- Them Doing That
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Since it would benefit the otherside to plant spies among our group. Some of those spies would remain quite well hidden; yet some would surface now and again and show their ugly face and when they do -- TROLL // DELETE // FLAG comes bubbling to the surface from some of us, as it has. But surely not always accurately stating this to be the case, mistakes do happen. And then again some of those doing the shouting may very well be those spies continuing to hide that ugly face from the rest of us, pretending to be part of us. What better way to remain hidden in plain sight than to pretend you are on the side of the good, the majority that does without question exist here in this forum. You know what I mean, like the enemy wearing the uniform of the good guys, kinda hard to spot them when/if they do that. Except there is one major drawback in being that spy and that is the TRUTH eventually must come about if the spy is to be effective for the otherside. I mean there are no secrets in me saying that -- the obvious benefit (purpose, mission) would be to crumble morale, distract, distort, redirect, separate, etc., etc // all those things that any devoted RON PAUL supporter should be able to identify them for what they are. Let's hope that's the case.
-- And in the meantime use some common sense.
My $.02
If you were truly part of the R3VOLution, then no
troll or CFR or Santa Claus would ever change that perception.
That's their goal and we ought to be intelligent enough to see for ourselves.
Become a leader instead of a follower in your beliefs,
Nothing should change that concept.
Agree
This site and many others have totally been infiltrated. You have to wade through all the muck to get to a real post.
The answer is we all have to accept personal responsibility and act on our own and do what we know needs to be done in spreading the message of freedom in our local communities and spheres of influence.
Don't be a follower and act off of information on these boards. Ron Paul himself sends us videos and messages and that's when it's time to follow orders.
Today Ron Paul sent out a message and at the bottom of the letter he put the link to donate so please everyoned donate today! I just sent off $25.
Obvious
Been that way for a long time.
Of course, what would you
Of course, what would you expect. rejoice in it
That means we must be saying the right things
Ron Paul 2008
A long time ago....
A long time ago....
Get over yourselves. We're
Get over yourselves. We're still small potatoes in comparison to Huckabee's visibility or either Obama or Hillary's crowd.
What?!?!
Get over ourselves? Small potatoes or not, we have to spread the message of life, liberty, and freedom.
I'm talking about getting
I'm talking about getting over the idiotic paranoia. Just getting out of the house once in a while would go a long way toward alleviating the paranoia and isolation that comes from not interacting with human beings.
CFR INFILTRATION: CHECK YOUR PC! CHECK YOUR FIREWALL!!!
First, check tihs out. Why would they leave the Internet alone including this forum?
http://youtube.com/watch?...
Second, in the late 90's one professor was frequently warning people in his news group not to rely on the Internet. In the same news group, he was later accused of being an agent of a U.S. spy organization in the past. It looks like this accusation was correct since it looks like he actually came clean and confessed. In fact, I think he is now against the spy organization, but I didn't pay much attention to this story. Anyway, the point is that he was warning very frequently about getting information on the net. My guess now is that he was very well aware of disinformation efforts that were going on on the net.
CHECK YOUR PC!!!
Have you noticed that you are always logged in here or other places even after you delete all cookies? I just noticed this. It turned out that a whole lot of cookies were hidden in my PC. I could not delete them anymore. But, I figured out a way to delete them.
CHECK YOUR FIREWALL FREQUENTLY!!!
I think I got some funcky spy software on my PC. It frequently knocks down my firewall.
No...
I clear cookies and immediately have to log in again....
:D
Don't overreact. Many sites
Don't overreact. Many sites have a timeout -- a delay -- that keeps your name on the logged-in list for a while after you log out.
If you want to control cookies, I recommend the CookieSafe add-on for Firefox. I use it to permanently allow sites where I want to remain logged in (DP, YouTube, del.icio.us, Digg, etc.), and to temporarily allow evil/unscrupulous sites like Google when I login to my Gmail account. Sites that don't need to set a cookie in order to function properly...don't.
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Damn.
Maybe we should put SCREW CFR or CFR SUX! on the fighter?
Ya think that would generate more donations?
www.RingsideRevolution.co...
Probably
Probably.
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Prolly Yes
But, my friend, if you really understand how pervasive and massive the power is of these people, you come to realize they've been doing it to us in many ways for a very long time. They are into everything everywhere. And the CFR is not the final source of all this...
Yet somehow, in a way I cannot exactly explain, RP supporters are still a force to be reckoned with...maybe its a matter of numbers.
The crucial issue, as I have been saying in different posts for many days now, is we cannot afford any mistakes, nor can we afford to think that this is going to be easy, or can be done by some formula. We need to think, and rethink, and think again until we finally understand what we're really up against.
That is the basis for a winning plan that I don't think is quite in place and operating at the moment...
Go Ron Paul, Go Grassroots
There is no doubt.
We have, are and will be attacked by all means on a constant basis. Be aware.
If they are, we have already won.
:-)
And as well as....
another 18 folks who are my neighbors. Come get me because I will make a scene that gets national attention. Fuck you fed bitches. I have made a stand.
Well I say...
get your ass in line because I want to shoot it out with you fucks.
Don't forget
Fortune Favors the Bold
Other campaign's moles
and run of the mill teenage pranksters
Absolutely
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