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Global Enslavement Question

Alright I'm an extremely wealthy powerful man in the world. Why do I desire global enslavement and communist state for everyone? I can pretty much do now whatever I choose? Why bother with the trouble?
I think Jones is right on some things but this is always a little far fetched for me.

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It's all about the inbreeding!!

have you noticed how many of
these people are related?!!!

You need to research sociopathy

Most people don't understand sociopathy.
Here are some primers..
A sociopath has no conscience and is incapable of loving others.
About 1 in 10 people are sociopaths.
Most sociopaths live normal lives and are not cold blooded serial killers.
Sociopaths tend to be manipulative, reckless to themselves and others, dominant, irresponsible, and they yearn for control and power.
They do not see anything wrong with the way they are and they often consider themselves superior while people of conscience they deem pathetic. While we might consider something "evil" a sociopath might get a thrill from it and see nothing wrong with it.
There are many good books at amazon.com about sociopathy and I recommend reading one and learning more. You DO have sociopaths around you at work, in your everyday life, maybe even in your family. Learn what makes them tick.. it could save your life!

Think!

Every religion has it's radicals. Some religions are new and some are ancient. Like the poster before who said you need to research it for yourself, this is what I suggest also. I have spent over 15 years on this, and feel confident that I have a pretty good understanding (realizing of course that what I know, while more than most, is actually very small compared to the real truth.) These people's religion is very (very) ancient, and they are all radicals. They are probably the most organized religion in the world, even though they take literally thousands of forms. Every conspiratorial group that you've ever heard of (like CFR, Trilateral, Illuminati, Masons, etc.) all play a role. Only the very top echelon of leaders (not the rank and file) know who their god is. And lastly many so called "christian" religions are also headed by these false teachers; religions that have BILLIONS of members who are blind to their situation.
How is that for obscure?
Say YES to Dr. NO

Lust for POWER is STRONGER THAN FOR SEX,

FOOD, or PLEASURE in alot of people! They have billions (in the case of Rothshilds, Rockefellers---trillions) of dollars. They have all the women and houses and servants and finer things in life. But they yearn for something more. Their ego gets its kicks from control and power. It is too bad they couldn't channel that urge into the higher energies, the higher chakras of spiritual realms. Then they could be creative and make this a paradise for EVERYONE. We have the resources for everyone to be wealthy, if we used Tesla's energy and if we took care of the earth instead of letting greed rule. But then THEY couldn't be SPECIAL, in CONTROL, etc. However, I do believe they would be much happier if they allowed and helped create a paradise on earth. But they just don't know it!

I somehow feel that maybe their younger generation---the Prince Williams, the Chelsea Clintons, the young Bush girls, the younger Rockefellers---that they will be the ones that say, "HEY WHAT IS GOING ON! We don't want to do what our parents did! We want the people to be FREE!" I somehow think this could happen.

Repeat:

I think they are afraid that their "posterity" will not be as well off as they are no matter how much money they pass on to them. That we "useless eaters" will consume all the natural resources before they and their children and their children's children "get theirs."

Here's another thing I think that ticks them off: That anyone with a good idea who can market it correctly can do well in this country. Even though the wealth that comes from the idea may not be on the scale of the wealth of the rockefellers, it could still be very substantial. It would be enough, in some cases to say, buy a mansion right next to the rockefeller estate. Or to moor a yacht on the opposite side of the pier from theirs. I feel they think of these types as "party crashers" and are un-deserving of that kind of wealth and notoriety. They are not true "blue-bloods" and are to be shunned and held down (through government policies that foment monopolistic capitalism). It is a free-market society and liberty that allows for the kind of wealth that threatens them to be created quickly. It is for those reasons that freedom must be crushed, and the people to remain "in their places" as serfs "down on the plantations." I think that they are jealous of their positions in society and anyone who can move into their category is a threat to that position. Maybe there actually is a need for psychotropic medication contrary to my previous opinions. The blue-bloods would be a good place to start the administration of those drugs because if all of this speculation of mine is true, is indicative of a mental illness on their part.

Paul.

Because You Can -- Some People Are Scum (Nothing Personal)

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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(you asked)
Why do I desire global enslavement and communist state for everyone? I can pretty much do now whatever I choose? Why bother with the trouble?

I think it is important to do more research and answer

your excellent question for yourself. I have spent 40 years on your question and I am not going to give you a conclusion...that is your business. It is best for all to get to the answer their own way.

Secondly, Dr. Paul has addressed this again and again. Dr. Paul was publicly discussing FEMA camps in 19 God da%$ 88! Get on board or go back to your TV set.

Everyone who posts here! You must research Dr. Paul's writings and videos. He has a video posted here today that explains a part of it. "Oh gee this trilateral stuff is a conspiracy theory" just demonstrates that you have not put in the necessary work.

I keep seeing all of these Alex Jones questions that Dr. Paul has been right smack in the middle of for 30 years. Alex Jones is not for me. He presents an angle on the news and you need to study along with 4 or 5 more angles.

Understand that FEAR is how they control humanity. Mr. Jones site is all about FEAR (this explains why I do not read it. The MSM is also littered with fear messages).

All of life is a form of energy. Fear is at a low frequency. It is. It puts you into "survival mode" or "fight or flight." This is a low body/chemical/animal response to events. When you are calm relaxed and confident, both sides of your brain hemispheres integrate and you can grasp broad concepts and think for yourself. They do not want independent thinkers.

Why would all of these mean, rich, white men want to control the world?

You need to understand first, that they do.

Understand that their goal is to make sure that people THINK they are free.

That all thought and debate about the world today would be controlled by them.

Here at DP "they" are present and are doing their best to guide the debate to their ends.

Don't believe it? Good! that means that they have succeeded at making you think you are free.

Once you have gone to the trouble of understanding who these men are and their methods you might be far closer to answering this question yourself.

I assure you this...in the process of your research, you will encounter a mountain of disinformation. You will say "this guy's website is great!" he is really against the state. Wrong! He works for the state. He has tricked you. Read between the lines. Once you have learned to find lies you find them all day.

It's fun to catch them. They wrap a lie in 95% truth...they do it because it works.

Why do they want control the world?

Once you acknowledge that they already do, then , you are on the path to figuring out why.

It really doesn't matter if you "believe it" or not. It is still that state of affairs of the world today...ask Dr. Paul....not Alex Jones.

I don't agree...

...Alex Jones websites are about fear. The things he reports are scary at times, but he is providing the information we need to understand. If his websites aren't for you, fine, but please remember the only reason I had even heard of Ron Paul before he threw his hat into the ring was because I was reading Alex Jones websites.

Most everyone who has posted here seems to...

agree with Jones "endgame" thesis. I think it fails because it assumes that people can consciously do evil.
Regarding evil, I agree with the theory that it can only be caused by unconsciousness and ignorance.

I'm willing

to agree the wealthy elite are unconscious and ignorant. They certainly don't seem to have the concept of good and evil most of us share.

O.K. this may sound far fetched to you too...

...but people like the Bushes are not people like you and me. They are completely incapable of experiencing higher emotions like love and compassion. They care only about themselves and possibly a few people just like them. They are bluebloods who believe firmly in their right to rule. They view the whole of humanity as cattle is be used and controlled for their amusement. It's not about their own personal freedom, it's about their ultimate power and control over others. They seek to feel important by bullying everyone else.

Most of us are just people who want to be left alone to live in peace and take care of ourselves and our families and enjoy a good time or two with our loved ones. The wealthy elite have entirely different values.

ITS HISTORY SON

The elite level of humanity has ALWAYS tried to centralize power period. Go back to Babylon, Egypt, Rome, Futile Europe, communist Russia, Nazi Germany, and the couple hundred dictators we have now spread about the globe. To think we are now immune to tyranny is preposterous,
naive and down right stupid. Now the elites have the means through the banking system, and the new threat of technology to truly centralize power. The new dark ages will be a true lock down of thought and dissent. Do you think Hitler and Stalin would have loved to have face scanning, biometric databases and a history of everything you have ever bought and looked at on TV and the net. Give me a break dude! Just because you don't want power personally certainly doesnt mean that the sector of humanity that always has and always will has ceased to exist. Power does not sleep and it corrupts absolutely. If a previously nice person can turn into a complete A-HOLE by being promoted to management at the local Walmart, imagine what these masters of the universe elitist at the top of the food chain are like. Its a bigger picture than I wouldn't do that, so It can't exist.

Ultimate power

to be in control over everyone, ultimate ego trip. They were not counting on enough people waking up or in the idea that maybe there is another power that supersedes them. Also, time seems to be collapsing, which is why the sudden rush to tighten the screws. Who is Jones?

I'm not sure...

...but I think he's talking about Alex Jones:
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.prisonplanet.c...

Thanks

That came to me after I posted, but there was no reference to what Jones was saying.

I think we should also note

that some of these wealthy elites believe they are doing good. Some may have the best intentions and actually believe that removing our borders and socializing some of our basic systems is better for us and the world. However, some of the worst things have been done with the best intentions.

Noted

That's probably true of some people on the lower levels who don't really understand what their oraganizations are being used for, such as certain Council of Foreign Relations members. We can't forget, however, that the people at the top of the pyramid running the show do not have our best interests in mind.

I know...

the answer, and without going too far, the answer is RELIGION. For those of us who believe in the Bible and it's vision for the future, there is a clear path the world will take. These people do what they do for their religion. Their religion by the way is very bizarre and totally contrary to what Christians believe. And it's NOT Satanism.
Say YES to Dr. NO

Could you please be a little more obscure...

I can almost understand what you are saying.

Mental illness

They're control freaks.

Man has always strived to be God

What better way to prove you have finally made GodHead than to tell those sniveling little bastards - the common people - the middle class - what to do every God damn minute of the day and how to spend their hard earned cash.

Their real beef is with God - for not forcing mankind to behave. But, by golly, they do it and show God how it's done.

Self preservation?

Isn't part of these elites motive their desire to secure the Earth for themselves, over all others?

Isn't the idea that Alex Jones' professes about population reduction a direct result of the elites worry that the resources of the planet will become severely depleted to a point where these arrogant pricks will have to be subject to a reduced standard of living at the hands of us scum suckers?

My take on this is that they have been born and bred for nearly 2 centuries to believe that THEY are the most important humans on the planet, deserving of everything and anything they desire, and the rest of us are just drones. And as such, they desire to control all of humanity to not only quench their thirst for absolute power, but also to make sure they can control the distribution of reasources to their liking, so they always have their wishes catered to.

Am I wrong? If so, please enlighten me as I have always struggled with a clear cut answer to this question as well.

I was going to provide...

an answer similar to this last night, but was too tired. I think they are afraid that their "posterity" will not be as well off as they are no matter how much money they pass on to them. That we "useless eaters" will consume all the natural resources before they and their children and their children's children "get theirs."

Here's another thing I think that ticks them off: That anyone with a good idea who can market it correctly can do well in this country. Even though the wealth that comes from the idea may not be on the scale of the wealth of the rockefellers, it could still be very substantial. It would be enough, in some cases to say, buy a mansion right next to the rockefeller estate. Or to moor a yacht on the opposite side of the pier from theirs. I feel they think of these types as "party crashers" and are un-deserving of that kind of wealth and notoriety. They are not true "blue-bloods" and are to be shunned and held down (through government policies that foment monopolistic capitalism). It is a free-market society and liberty that allows for the kind of wealth that threatens them to be created quickly. It is for those reasons that freedom must be crushed, and the people to remain "in their places" as serfs "down on the plantations." I think that they are jealous of their positions in society and anyone who can move into their category is a threat to that position. Maybe there actually is a need for psychotropic medication contrary to my previous opinions. The blue-bloods would be a good place to start the administration of those drugs because if all of this speculation of mine is true, is indicative of a mental illness on their part.

Paul.

Think about it

Who wouldn't want the whole world as their playground?

They want to go back to British days of Empire - where they could go into any country - take whatever they wanted and nobody could stop them.

We are in their way.

Is it the lack of fulfillment from what he has?

Is it because for all his wealth and power, it does not feed his real human needs? I wonder. One thing I will say, as a parallel, is that it is always those who profess the most ironclad assuredness of their religious standing, their savedness, that insist on telling everyone else how to live. Islam, Christian, etc.

Why do you need a motive?

Tyranny and oppression have existed since the dawn of mankind. Some people are just evil. These aren't the first people to wish to control the world or enslave a country.

learn

from the hyper-wealthy, drug lords, aristocracy and the like. It's not about money at that stage of their game.

Simple

Because for a banker, fascism is the perfect form of government. You always get your loans repaid.. ;)

people would be their money

You would have a value. This is why "the mark of the beast" was talked about I guess. It's the ultimate power over you, you have no name, barely human, numbered by another who is now basically your god. It's not why would they want it, It's a logical step for a mind that thinks that way.

Sigh

To Them we are "The Great Unwashed"....has always pretty much said it all.

Not to sound like a preacher, but...

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? " Jer. 17:9

If left without rules or consequences to guard us, any man could make Hitler look like an angel. The Founders understood this condition of man: if left without checks and balances, a tyrant would easily arise over this nation.

In the case of globalism, it is not just one man, but several seeking to gain the power of a dictatorship.

Nick Rockefeller's response was simply.....

We want EVERYONE (except them--the ruling class--of course) microchipped!

Urges

Based on an urge, one acts

You have an urge to Rock climb or jump from a plane?

You do it. I will not, as I don't have that urge.

It's what defines us all.

What people sometimes are unable to understand is that there is, has been and always will be people with urges that relate
to blood lust. The urge for power. The urge to create suffering of others.

Those urges are real. They exist. Some people have them and will do what it takes to satisfy them.

Understand this and you understand the world of past, present and future.

Ego. Glory. Pride. 0 Sum Game

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

Why do they do it?

I don't know what's up. And I am limited to the same conjecture everyone is, but this is a weak rejection of the idea. Why have kings and tyrants ever done what they do? Why did Alexander weep when he had no more armies to rout and civilians to slaughter. Why was Napoleon not satisfied with Western and Central Europe and insist on invading Russia. You may not find this rational behavior, but you are not a megalomaniac like Rockefeller and his ilk.

Also I think somewhere in their evil souls, they actually think they are doing humanity a service. It's Hobbesian in that it comes from the idea that men need to be ruled in order to avoid their chaotic natures. It's also Leninist/Maoist in that there is no limit to what is acceptable in the expenditure of human life so long as the end result is achieved.

Global Enslavement Question?

Another quiet night.

________________

Good luck to us all,

Lisa C.

www.women4ronpaul.com

There's a term for this...

It's called sociopath..

Playing Devil's Advocate

Look, we're both rich. Our parents gave us our wealth, and we've worked very hard to grow it. To lose everything that we have worked for - to lose everything that our forefathers have worked for, simply to the whims of the mindless masses...well, that's just not right.

We both understand the business world, and have dabbled into the political arena. We know that there are stupid people out there. They outnumber people like us 100 to 1. I mean, just look at these past elections. People are so ignorant, they trust the news media as if it were the gospel.
Left to their own devices, these ignorant masses would destroy one another. They would dismantle the economic systems we've developed and the world would crash into ruin. Ill meaning dictators would take power, and everyone would suffer. It isn't just for our own future that we need to protect them from this. That's just selfish. We've been gifted with wealth and intelligence. It is our solemn duty to protect our fellow man.

People perform better when given dreams and goals. Hope, Peace, Unity. What do these words mean unless you are surrounded by Despair, War and Segregation?
Isn't it better that a very few suffer to ensure the betterment of humanity? Let's not be idealistic here. Let's be realistic. I would like to see a perfect world just as much as you, but you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

People might consider it "World Domination." Let them paint it whatever way they want, but in order for people to accept world peace, they have to experience it. We can bring that to the world! We can unite every man, woman and child under one banner. We should establish a council of intelligent people, like ourselves, and explain how to create this international unity - A Council of Foreign Relations. Through the funding sources of men like ourselves, we can lead the flock of humanity into a New World Order. A world of cooperation and purpose where each man is given a job, according to his abilities, and where each man is given according to his needs.

We can look with hearty disdain upon the empires of Nero, Qin Shi Huang, and Hitler, but we should not forget their accomplishments. They brought about great social change, and unified an empire in ruin.
With history as our guide, we can change this world, and bring about a lasting empire, securing not only our well earned wealth, but a hope and future for all mankind.

central planning doesn't work

"A world of cooperation and purpose where each man is given a job, according to his abilities, and where each man is given according to his needs."

Huh? I prefer to make up my own mind about how I can best work and make a contribution and decide for myself what I do or don't need. The only way people can truly be free is with a highly decentralized form of government that can easily respond to each individual's needs. The government you're describing only works well for creatures with so little wit they can't do anything other than give themselves up for the good of the whole: creatures like ants and bees.

Devil's advocate indeed.

Exactly

They appoint themselves as gods. But they are horribly mislead. Liberty is the only god-like quality in honesty. Liberty teaches people to take care of themselves and others, liberty gives you the freedom to destroy yourself which brings the growth of responsibility and morality. Liberty makes you in effect your own god in charge of your own destiny. To erase that liberty is to take away the gift that the universe or god has put here and assert the masters as that new god which is clearly evil. Government's only job is to protect this liberty from those who try to take it. Having money does not make a man wise or virtuous, nor does it give these people the right to reduce people to the equivalent of ants in a one world hive. There is no advocate for them. Their minds are rotten to the core and completely corrupted. Unlimited money has reduced their lives to belongings, everything is a belonging to them. They spend their empty days thinking of how to remove the greatest product of nature (god) that may have ever existed anywhere in the universe. This is the danger of unchecked money and unchecked power. And it's our fault too because we decide what money is, money is just a swap of my hard word for yours. When that money no longer has a real value, they have separated it from reality and we can see the products of that all around us. They have put themselves in the ultimate seat of judgment and will pay for it.

........

Yeah i agree it is sort of out there, how can you seriously profit from that when there can actually be a potential Real World War, like the whole globe, if that's what would happen.

Because they CAN!

How about Boredom? ...ie Too much of a good thing, etc.

Soren Kierkegaard: "Since boredom advances and boredom is the root of all evil, no wonder, then, that the world goes backwards, that evil spreads. This can be traced back to the very beginning of the world. The gods were bored; therefore they created human beings."

Fritz Redl: "Research has shown that boredom is closely related to frustration and that the effect of too much frustration is invariably irritability, withdrawal, rebellious opposition or aggressive rejection of the whole show."

Voltaire: "All kinds are good except the kind that bores you."

Henry Kissinger: "The nice thing about being a celebrity is that when you bore people, they think it's their fault."

Lin Yutang: "Probably the difference between man and the monkeys is that the monkeys are merely bored, while man has boredom plus imagination."

Sir Cecil Beaton: "Perhaps the world's second worst crime is boredom. The first is being a bore."

George Bush: "What's wrong with being a boring kind of guy?"

At long last

the whole world will be "bowing down to him." It has taken him a while, but he has been very methodical and brilliant about it. Now how do we stop it?

not just power

PERMANENT POWER FOREVER! WITH NO OPPISITION,EVER AGAIN

Power!

After you have acquired all the money you wish to have, then you want POWER.
That's it POWER.

I believe

that this question was asked of Aaron Russo (regarding his private conversations with Nick Rockefeller) and when Aaron asked Nick that very same question, "Why would you want to control people? You have all of the money you could ever want...all the power you could ever want. Why do you want to control people?" His response was, "What do you care? They are just people? They aren't your family..they aren't your friends...they mean nothing."

Watch this video...he talks about it and what Nick Rockefeller told him personally about this same subject:

http://video.google.com/v...

Very enlightening...and scared the crap out of me