Why is the medical community NOT trying to stop CODEX??!!!!

Because the medical community is the medical "industry" and if you follow the money are just pushers and prostitutes for the pharmaceuticals. Natural substances, such as vitamins, cannot be patented, thus the pharmaceuticals have incentive to have them regulated. As more people learn about the link between vitamins, malnutrition and chronic disease and awareness is raised about orthomolecular medicine, alopathic medicine and the drug companies scurry to defend their industry.

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The long answer is one of those "awakening" processes. How much do you really want to know?
Your doctor is probably a nice man or woman doing the best they can to give you the finest thing the pharmaceutical industry has to offer. Trouble is, everything they are taught is laced with lies, just like everything that all of us have been taught. Enough hard science and fact to make us confident in our own expertise, and enough misinformation, backed with plausible deniability, to lead them to be tools of some very bad things. Like your average public school teacher. Or cop. Or... what do you do for a living? If we all dig deep enough, most of us are tools of the machine already.
They don't complain because they do not perceive the problem. They believe they are the purveyors of the finest healthcare in the world...

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Probably for the same reason all these other creepy agendae fly--because our Bozo the Clown news media has not informed anyone about Codex.

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Bump this. I hope I will hear more about it, so that I might become more familiar with it.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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DANGERS OF CODEX, WTO AND CAFTA!

July 6, 2005

This new film by Kevin P. Miller exposes imminent dangers posed by CAFTA, Codex, and the WTO, and urges people to action. A new documentary by International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P. Miller, We Become Silent has taken the world by storm via the Internet - with more than 10,000 viewings in less than two days. It can be seen at http://www.welltv.com/.

International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P. Miller announced the release of a new documentary about the threat to freedom of choice in health care. We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health Freedom details the ongoing attempts by multinational pharmaceutical interests and giant food companies -- through the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), Codex Alimentarius, the European Union, the WTO, and others -- to limit the public’s access to herbs, vitamins and other therapies.

We Become Silent is narrated by Dame Judi Dench, one of Britain’s most distinguished actresses.

" who benefits" In this case, both big pharma and the doctors themselves.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

It's unstoppable because once again it is a UN program along with it's many agencies and organizations. We are a member nation under UN CHARTER. Any member nation will comply to all of it's programs and most people are totally unaware of what is going on. They are out to "harmonize the world", and doing a very good job at it so far. This international body had been around for centuries and their planned goals were to be achieved through "education". Social engineering. It is even hard at work within your church!!

Price of supplements went way, way up. This is not a conspiracy. It's happening now in Europe. Dr. Ron Paul, the guy you claim to support, is trying to stop CODEX, for this and many other reasons. Thanks for keeping this topic up top for all to see :)

With physicians prescribing these supplements the cost for most people will go down because more than likely as physician prescribe more insurances will start covering them

Harm in harmonization
Through the process called "harmonization," our legislators in Washington will be required to align America with harsh and restrictive Codex requirements, regulating international trade, distribution and processing of food, herbs and nutrients. Those proposed standards will be extremely detrimental to the environment and your health, blocking your access to many clean, unadulterated, life-enhancing foods.
The FDA is currently at work, preparing its own plans for "directives" for "harmonization" of our dietary supplement laws so they will fully agree with the excessively restrictive "international standard" set by the EU-dominated Codex.

What Codex will accomplish
These new standards and guidelines will:
1. Protect the multimillion-euro (European equivalent of dollars) investments of the large drug companies as well as their government-blessed monopolies.
2. Lead people away from natural healing methods, resulting in more power for the government-medical-pharma cartel, more suffering and death for the populace, and the further degradation of life on Earth.

Codex's Evil Sister
The drug industry, recognizing the growing preference for natural remedies over pharmaceuticals, wants nutritional supplements and herbs either forbidden or priced out of reach. In Europe, the drug cartel has succeeded in enacting the European Food Supplements Directive, which will accomplish that objective on the European continent very soon. This Directive, which passed into European Union (EU) law in 2002 and was implemented throughout the EU on August 1, 2005, is the first of several EU Directives to impact natural healthcare and is one of the bases for the Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements Guidelines adopted by Codex Alimentarius.

Effects of the 1994 U.S. dietary-supplement law, DSHEA:
In the United States, after DSHEA was enacted by Congress, the shackles were removed from American suppliers, who were permitted for the first time to actually advertise some of the purported health benefits of vitamins, minerals, and herbs, and to sell such products free of the arbitrary enforcement powers of the FDA. DSHEA was passed because large numbers of Americans demanded it. Over 2.5 million ordinary citizens wanted to ensure that dietary supplements would remain available over-the-counter. By 2002, nutritional supplements outsold drug medications. Interestingly enough, although the FDA has retained wide-ranging enforcement powers over supplements, many anti-supplement interests repeatedly and deliberately lie and call supplements "unregulated."

CAFTA agreement
Special clauses have been inserted into the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) designed to force America to submit to Codex standards after its enactment by the U.S. Congress. CAFTA was passed by the U.S. Senate and Congress in 2005. This laid yet another brick in the wall for the U.S. government to eventually restrict vitamin and supplement sales in accordance with the "German Model" of healthcare. Gradually, DSHEA, which protects the nutritional rights of Americans, is being nullified by these “end runs,” and the North American supplement companies (along with their healthfood stores) are being insidiously phased out.

The power behind the throne
Codex is a joint venture between the United Nation's World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization (WHO/FAO). The WTO stated that it will enforce Codex "guidelines" as the world standard for trade in food and food supplements. Both the FAO and the WHO are intended to protect the health and welfare of the world's population, but it is clear they have shirked this responsibility in regard to Codex.
An immense German, French, U.S., and British drug cartel is behind this. Codex is also working with other groups supporting the following agendas:
1. The chemical industry's aim that all animals be treated with antibiotics and hormones.
2. The largest seed company in the world (Monsanto) is working toward 100% genetically-modified crops.
3. The nuclear industry's goal of irradiating all foods including plants and livestock.
4. All industries' goal: phasing out truly organic foods, or at least, making them extremely difficult to obtain.
Hopefully, the facts will alarm you enough that you will want to immediately contact Congress and tell them how you feel about all of this.
Actions by the European Union and the United Nations affect millions of lives. What makes it possible for drug companies to have so much influence at the EU and UN and even within our own FDA? The answer is rather simple: drug companies make excessive profits by overcharging on patented medicinal drugs. They claim that the profits are needed for research into new drugs. Yet, the costs of that research only come down to paying the salaries of some lab technicians. It is well-known that most of the profits are used for lobbying politicians, advertising, and similar methods of increasing sales.

The powers on the throne
Some 167 countries are members of the Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC). Here are some of the international organizations working closely with Codex in order to accomplish its objectives:
• Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO):
• International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
• International Consultative Group on Food Irradiation (ICGFI)
• Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA):
• The European Commission on Food Safety (ECFS)
• United Nations (UN)
• World Health Organization (WHO)
• World Trade Organization (WTO)
The bottom line is that, for all their power, the pharmaceutical companies could no more force you to buy their drugs and accept their medicines than Wal-Mart could force you to buy its pots and pans. It is the overriding dictates of monopolistic legislation enacted by Congress, coupled with the government-enforced monopoly given to government-licensed and approved medical doctors, that restrict our healthcare choices. Without these laws, you could reject “Big Pharma” with impunity as you bought and used all the natural health products you wanted in a truly free market.

is 'forcing" you to take anything..only you can decide that when it comes to supplements

Back around the turn of the 20th Century, John D. Rockefeller discovered that one very valuable byproduct of petrochemicals is as a base for patent medicines. At that time, the chiropractic, osteopathic and American Medical Associations were about the same size (if anything, the AMA was the smallest). Rockefeller got the AMA to agree to push his patent medicines ("pill pushers"), while bribing states to discourage or outright outlaw some procedures used by osteopaths and chiropractors. The treatment of chiropractors was most insidious. States simply made a chiropractic license as easy to get as a beautician's license (forget that chiropractors go to school for as long as MDs). Many osteopaths used electromagnetic devices for treatment. No matter that they worked; states outlawed them, arrested osteopaths and took away their licenses.
Then John D. got Congress to pass the Pure Food and Drug Act, creating the FDA. The FDA has been harassing "health food" marketers ever since, while allowing many deadly prescription drugs on the market. One of the FDA's most recent outrages was the temporary ban on Red Yeast Rice, which is a natural anti-cholesterol nutrient.
While prescription drugs which are organically similar to Red Yeast Rice, they all cause some liver inflammation, sometimes resulting in complete liver failure. Red Yeast Rice has NO side effects, and costs less than the copay on most prescription anti-cholesterols.

There is a very interesting book called:
Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All into Patients (Hardcover)
by Ray Moynihan and Allan Cassels...

very interesting read.. It tells you who decides what we need, how much we need, what and how they can think up anything to invent a new disease, how to lower or higher thresholds to have a larger catch of the population to stuff up with new drugs.

It tells of the trials of anti depressants on large number of country people in Australia, using the results to set new standards.

Your library might carry a copy, it certainly is worth a read.

I took the same nutrition class that they make the doctors take. Unless you are a speciallist, more often than not I would know about the same amount of stuff about nutrition as a doctor.

I was told once by a doctor that everyone should take a daily multivitamin supplement. When I told him wouldn't it be better if I just varied my veggies around and paid attention to what I was eating to make sure I get what my body needs in the proper amounts, he said "most people are too lazy to do that and the junk food people rely one has almost no nutritional value so we have to get our vitamins from somewhere."

I couldn't believe my ears. Here was a doctor basically telling people they should eat suppliments over changing their diets. Sounded to me like he was already defeated.

We don't spend nearly enough time educating our kids about proper nutrition. That is where we should put the emphisis, not "natural" suppliments.

No supplement can be sold for preventative, or therapeutic use.
None can exceede RDA levels (which are set very low initally)
New supplements are "banned" unless Codex approved.
Regulations are NOT based on scientific or research findings.
Regulations were actually set by 11 "appointed" persons.

Under NAFTA comes TCC (Trilaterial Cooperation Charter) in partnership with WTO, WHO, FDA, that is designed to "harmonize" our regulations with Canada, and Mexico.
All functioning under UN charters...............................

All supplements are to be marketed by Big Pharma, follow the money.
In Germany and Norway, already under Codex Guidelines, prices have soared. (ie. zinc tablets went from $4 to $52, Echinacea went from $14 to $153.)

Since all prescription drugs have to pass clinical trials before they are approved for public use, I wonder if the natural 'drugs' will have to go through the same tests..

Drug companies spend millions of dollars to develop a new drug. They then spend millions more in clinical trials. Then they spend millions on advertising if the drug demonstrates positive in trials and passes public distribution approval.

At the same time, they get patents on the drugs they create. Since there is no way to get a patent on a naturally occurring thing, I dont see the pharm's having much interest in this at all as far as the 'raw material distribution' of it. Specific combinations of naturally occurring things can be patented - so I wouldn't be suprised to see new mixes showing up with attempts to patent them by the pharms.

A clinical trial is an expensive thing to run. Pharm companies have to pay a management firm to arrange doctors who are willing to provide patients for the trials. The management firm has to then pay doctors for participating, pay the related medical bills of all patients the doctor puts into the trial, pay for the lab tests and researching of results of those tests. It's literally millions of dollars paid out by the pharms for these trials.

It's not like the pharm goes out and stands in a hospital, finds a sick person and says "Hey buddy, we've got this new drug we want you to try", and then waits for results. It's a highly organized, professional, regulated and expensive thing to do.

The real winners in this situation, in my learned opinion, are doctors. If a doctor is the only person who can get you your vitamins, they stand to make a lot of additional income from it. They are the 'short term' winners in this because they make money before, during and after a clinical trial happens (well, 'after' if the drug passes the trials). Pharms will have to figure out a way to get patents on things before they can make the motherloads of money they're used to getting.

CF

Codex is also linked to OIE (World Animal Health Organization).
OIE is the equivelent to our USDA. They have authority over all "member nations" veterinary services." The US is a member under this UN charter.
In their TAHSC (Terrestrial Animal Health Standards Commission) publication titled,
Tracibility Products and Codex Standards, it is apparent that we as "UN charter member nation" we will comply to Codex as well as animal ID.

Thank you again UN........ I feel much safer

i entered nursing in the eighties, when nurses still were taught to give back rubs and listen to their patients,and later earned national certification as a massage therapist,,,we learned the basics of nutrition, ie food groups and occassional need for vitamin supplements...i always gravitated to natural healing methods and after learning what ive learned about the present health care industry, more so...its called an industry for a reason...my last ten years of nursing was a very rude awakening, as health care came under the domination of insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, and arbitrary decisions from large lawsuits, all of which turned the "healing" profession into dangerous landmind.doctors learn virtually nothing of nutrition and all forms of natural healing are sternly avoided by the medical universities, with the exception of naturopaths, holistic drs. , chiropractors and the like.one thing i believe passionatly is that when the body is given the nutrients it needs and the mind and spirit are balanced, healing occurs, the body will naturally heal itself.i learned thousands, literally thousands of times,i could literally turn a patients condition around with fluids, exercise,nutrition, massage and kind words, more so then virtually any medical interventions.the "medicines" i was forced to pass out , i knew in my heart were making people very sick...much sicker than they were....and the majority of seasoned nurses i worked with felt the same....some of our patients, especially the elderly are so over medicated its a crime....upwards of twenty pills a day....their aging livers and kidneys simply can not detoxify the poisons faster than we can put it into them....talking to most doctors and pharmacists is an exercise in futility,,,,they are throughly brainwashed,,,,,i personally have not seen a doctor in over fifteen years (except for brown recluse spider bite and antibiotics) and even had midwife deliver my last child,,,,does that tell you how i feel about the current state of "healthcare". the entire mentality of peoples health has to change. do not run to dr. for pill with every complaint, look at your own healthstyle, do you eat nutritious food, drink unfluoridated water, exercise,and try to lead a decent life?you have to take responsibility for your own health as well. its not easy to stay in the healthy state our maker intended. our food chain is corrupted by herbicides, GMOs ,our water fluoridated and polluted with heavy metals and more,drugs are pushed on us by drs. and the neighborhood drug peddler,we stay awake nights worrying about paying bills and feeding our kids,spiritually and emotionally we are spent.this is all the plan of the elites, to destroy our strengths from every angle, and if all that doesnt kill us off, theres always good old vaccines tainted with mercury,,,,gotta love it huh.do not trust drs. and pharmacuetical companies blindly, question, learn and take care of yourself and yours.....and pray Dr. Paul is not cheated from his victory..

go to www.garynull.com and watch the preview of AIDS Inc.
Do you know how the aids test is conducted? Did you know if you have cervical cancer you come under the aids defined umbrella.
Anyway the test does not check for the virus. It checks to see if you have antibodies to the virus and if you do they say you have aids.
But wait a minute, if you get a vaccine you want the body to produce antibodies toward that particular disease and when you build antibodies they say great you have immunity.
So why do they say the opposite and reverse their logic putting science upside down on it's head?
Worse yet, they then say they are working on a vaccine for aids against the HIV virus so the body will build what? Antibodies against the virus!
But wait a minute. If the aids test checks for antibodies and you are diagnosed as having aids if they find antibodies then what will happen when everyone gets the vaccine and build antibodies. Everyone will be diagnosed with AIDS. IT IS A FRAUD! A SCAM!
If you take AZT it will kill you or any healthy human.
AZT was originally a cancer drug used back in the sixties but was taken off the market because it was so toxic.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!

There are a lot of good people in healthcare, especially the older ones who got into it when doctros ran their offices. Healthcare has become a business now. If your doctor's office has a business manager, you need to eep in mind that someone is "balancing" your doctor's attempts to give patient care with "running a business." The last 2 offices I worked for would point out at every meeting that "no one provides any healthcare if we go out of business." And a room full of people who just want to do the right thing nod their head, and feel greatful that we have someone with business sense to help us.
I am no longer in healthcare.

Paul,
I'll assume that attitude was from me and others who have worked with autistic parents and children. Listen, I get it, vaccines are your thing, your community's thing, it's not THE solution to dis-ease, it's deeply flawed and simply ONE path. The dangers have been withheld from the American population. Other governments have been more open.This is a fact.You are NOT the gatekeeper to health. You are a businessman who sells his skill set. You make money from your practice. A medical practice. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem arises when the government or you, support forced vaccines or forced medical care of any kind. What you do is based on your theory of health and frankly the results of that theory are not good. How healthy is America? Americans are turning to Holistic Health care because the medical model is not working. Getting upset and trying to make Americans follow the medical model is pedantic and robs the medical community of the motivation to improve and be more honest.

because I couldn't stand the attitudes that were displayed in the earlier thread on vaccines. Betterhalf is right - some of you are determined to drive people away from this site!
I have learned MANY things from this site and I thank you all! But PLEASE take a less antagonistic approach and you'll probably get more people to listen. Until today, I had never heard of CODEX and now I'm looking in to it. I can assure you that the vast number of physicians have never heard of CODEX. Thanks again for the education!

If you understand the sailary index(from the wilderness w/ micheal ruppert)
then you would understand the system!