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All this nice nice crap is getting sickening

Do you not remember that you have been sold into slavery with the patriot act and military commisions act that were both done without approval?
You sit by and wait? dum de dum

Do you not remember that the war started for no reason?
and you sit by and watch more people die? dum de dum de dum

Do you not by now know that there are huge holes in the 911 situation at least (Oh man I could get into that )
More dum de dum de dum de dum

You are never going to fix this problem with sitting back and talking about who is going to win this election since McCain is getting all the support he needs even though he's a psychotic freak. Why? becasue that is what the elites want? another unick in office so they can do what they want to us.

It's time to stand up people! We need to take the media and it's government by storm and we need to do it now!

If you need to be passive the least you can do is constantly write the media with complaint and boycott stuff but I say we storm every news media with bodies and get vicious.

Stand outside and talk to everyone that comes through telling them of the circus they are participating in.

Find every media outlet in your state and make it a mission.

If that doesn't work we need to storm the fed and the media with force and make them aware of what is happening. If they won't hear you you have to fight harder.

This passive aggression thing is getting old. The original revolution was an armed assault.

If I could get just 10 people to come with me so I don't look like a freak by myself to fight one institution I would be there and ready to be jailed for it. Would you?

It's coming down to a do or die situation people and if you aren't willing you will be just another sheep being sheared by the establishment you have to take real stand against it.

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Maybe so.

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There is merit in your message but many people will not risk jail for a cause, however good. Many have kids to feed, a job and things to do. You have a point. The Republic may sink because many did not stand up and fight when it was necessary. But the sad fact is most Americans are lethargic and will be led into the railroad cars to Camp FEMA before taking a stand. For them, it's easier. Besides, the propaganda will be compelling: we are doing this for your own safety.

Speak up every chance you get!

The other day I was at a grocery store where they were giving flue
shots.There were a bunch of people standing around.I went up to the woman giving the shots and said--is there mercury
in these shots and she said"why
yes,do you want one?I said no,
mercury is very harmful to people and people should be
told what is in their flu shot!
She got angry and shot back with"well, that hasn't been proven!I turned around and smiled at the people and left giving them something to think about.I never miss a chance to speak up!

I think we are arguing over

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Well gosh darn dit!

how about we start with an introduction to fighting... MMA!

I get the "aren't we supposed to be peaceful stuff a lot." All that gets is a newsreel of gased citizens that are dispersed with ease. Then the media reports lies like we threw something at the body armored troops so we desserved it. What we need is PEOPLE with a SET. Now I know their are gonna be some females saying... "there ya go... TYPICAL male."

and I say

YES

I am a gosh darned male and proud of it. And sooner or later we better toughen up. Start by watching some brave MEN in the octagon. Get a feel for what its like to go to battle

www.RingsideRevolution.co...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

In the world's broad fields of battle. In the bivoac of life. Be not like dumb driven cattle...be a HERO in the strife.

The Bottom Line

"They" control our future because they control our money. This is not a rich v. poor rant. It is simply about a sound money system that we do not have anymore. When we did we were in control, now they are in control.

If you want change, it starts with making sound money an issue and demanding sound money from congress. Sound money is the one thing that will change everything. All the other issues fall into place if we only had sound money. Of course, people will always have their disagreements, but if we had sound money we would be a strong nation and have our freedom.

We have to seize the opportunity that the unavoidable decline in American prosperity that their money system has caused to hammer the need for sound money into the public debate and not stop until we have it.

Sound money is the one issue that transcends any artificial division between us and could unite Americans. I now it is a topic that a vast majority of Americans do not understand, and that is exactly why we are we we are at.

Telling me how Americans can not and will not understand it is not productive. Whatever the obstacles, an understanding of sound money is the only path to restoring America.

Couple of points

a) We are already enslaved. If you need me to tell you that, you have not been paying attention.

b) As our masters are clever, we don't know it and it really isn't that bad.....until you think about it...or, one of your kids has been killed in a war....or...etc.

c) We don't know who our masters are...yes, you think it is zionists or CFR...etc...the fact that you "think"it is one of them is another tribute to how clever the masters are.

Dr. Paul is setting the example. Every moment he has had while addressing the media he has spoken the truth over and over again. Very simple approach and it works. It does not alienate people and it works. Not only is it effective....it lasts forever. Once a person learns the truth...they don't go back.

It is like one of those movies. The truth is kryptonite for the bad guys for the simple reason that their entire system is built on a lie.

Get it? The whole game is a lie.

You speak the truth over and over again...then and only then you are making progress. Look at the doc. He has done more for truth since May '07 than any other human being in history. Millions of people the world over have been changed forever since Dr. Paul.

I think he has the right idea.

IMF and World Bank Are Present Day Masters

These guys got heaps of planet earth bucks. So much, that they wake up every day to decide on the price of oil. Just like that, they make the calls. It sucks but true. How can the masses rise above that and win. Ron Pauls message is a start. For our children, don't give up.

Canuck for For Ron Paul

Buy GUNS and GOLD!

Freedom is not FREE!!

My advice is buy guns and gold. Move to the Colorado plateau or between Calgary and the Grand Tetons. The next four years are going to be a Bitch!

Ha...well said.

To funny Jim...well said.

Are you talking about 2012 stuff?

Why the high areas?

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"I killed the banks"

A Tough Call and Peed Off

It's a tough call to keep a peacefull demonstration and when does one take up a fight. How much tasering, macing and kicking does one have to take before defending themselves.
It appears that the present day government is pushing us to our limits. It doesn't seem like they're preparing for a terrorist attack, it's more like preparing themselves for an uprising by the people. It's almost like they want us to fight to give just reason to attack and jail us. Eventually implimenting martial law.

It's a given they are afraid that the sheeple will rise up as eagles in due time.
I'm one to hang in there peacefully knowing that the tides will change. But darn it I get peed off at times.

My Two Cents..........Canuck For Ron Paul

Government

has been pushing us for decades, this idea of revolution is not new..hell, it's tame compared to the vietnam era..before you wish for more than you can chew, check out the 1968 democratic convention in chicago..A real black eye in this country's history

Don't hold your breath

for the great ship America to right itself. It ain't gonna happen. When a true statesman of unpecapable integrity like Ron Paul can only draw snickers from the establishment, and folks like us, who are "in the know", only represent a single digit number in the polls, I don't thinks are going to get better for us. The masses are flocking to Barak Hussein Obama, or they're leaning toward pyscho McCain. We've lost our moral compass, and the neocons ain't going to let us have it back. I'd say stay "smart on the street". Just because they're ruling, doesn't mean you have to cower down.

Tagged!

Good luck man.

This reminds me of a plate I

had. It was two vultures sitting in a tree one vulture says to the other.....
Patience my ass I want to kill something.

The people with the plan to enslave us were very, very patient it has taken hundreds of years to get where they are today. They hold all the cards right now. It would be foolish to pull a Rambo because they will discredit Dr. Paul and his supporters as Homegrown terrorists, even protesting will just make us look like kooks. I talk to people and they look at me with blank faces, it's scary.

Many of us here have only recently come aware of the dire position we now find ourselves. We can relate to your frustration, fear and sense of urgency.

What can we do? Well, we have a leader right now and he is giving us clues. Get involved in the party reclaim it as our own. Help get people elected who run on Ron Paul's platform. Run for office in your community. Give out the movie Freedom to Fascism and any others that are helpful. Have a library of information that in case you find someone with an open mind you have the materials for them to view. Don't count on the internet always beginning here for us it could easily be shut down. Promote all Ron Paul sites and media that promote our message.

I think the time may come that we will have to go underground for me that
would mean become homeless and keep on the move, hope that doesn't happen because I hate camping. I wish to remain hopeful that with enough people staying active in this campaign we can BEGIN to get organized and actually see the start of a movement that works to protects our civil rights.

We have to define who we are, what we want and how we are to achieve our goals. This is what they did and it is what we must do.

Aaron Russo said to resist, I agree there are ways of resisting that do not entail violence. Peace

i do appreciate your advice

i use to have a dear friend that always told me, plan for the worst and be pleasantly surprised at anything else...i think what your saying is so right, we have to put our energies to Plan A, before we resort to Plan B..and we need to get our lives and minds ready for both...none of this is going to be easy

DITTO

DITTO

eveyone will be dum de dum

eveyone will be dum de dum until the depression starts. people lose their jobs, can't make the house payment, car payment, or buy food. then the crap will start martial law will come and it will probably be to late..

I vote for a double dose of Testosterone!

Most boys today are not equiped with the skills that will be needed for day to day survival. The boys of this generation have been ripped off. Being a boy used to mean camping,fishing, hunting, simple mechanics, horsemanship,farming. Learning about guns, archery, tracking skills, first aid in the field and other "boy" things to do.

Today they get suspended for drawing anything that resembles a gun. The school system and other systems, have beaten the man out of being a man. We must be politically correct after all, right?

Boys used to work side by side with their father to learn about life and sometimes learn necessary skill needed for their vocation in life. Try that today and they will take your kids away because of child labor laws. (?)This is INSANE!!

Used to be if "kids" wanted pocket money, they went out and got a part time job. It has been done that way for centuries! Now all of a sudden it is unthinkable to think that young Harry would dirty his hands with manual labor! He's just a kid attitude has spoiled a generation that is now under the illusion that they are entitled to hand outs. Remember Bush is pushing immigration because we "need to fill the jobs that Americans don't want to do"? There used to be no such thing as a job noone would do!! Kids used to work in cotton, tobacco, on dairy farms, orchards, and many other "unwanted" jobs, so they could have some money of their own. Not to mention a part time job for kids is a great learning experience. It also conditions them to discipline themselves and helps develope a good work ethic.

It is truely sad to see a large part of the "men" in this generation sit slack jawed and drooling, in front of their TV screens, or computers, trying to accomplish nothing more than the next level of their video games!! All the while totally oblivious to the world around them, much less that their country has been hijacked by a bunch of elites.

My greatest hope is for people to wake up and stop this social engineering of their children , especially boys!!. Boys need to learn about survival skills and the likes so they will not be at such a loss on skills needed to provide for themselves and their family's and how to protect what they have.

Revolution!

I'm ready to do what it takes to take back our country. The bravery our forefathers displayed is still very much alive I assure you. We need more people to stand up that are willing to fight the media and all these groups that control our country behind the scenes. This is what I like to see here sentinel.

if King George of England had the weapons

that the current King George has at his disposal, our forefathers would've lost real quick. How do you fight against a stealth bomber 40K feet in the air? I know my rifle can't hit it. Sentinel, you posited something like this the other day on DP. Sentinel, didn't you say you live in Canada?

I know its frustrating, but I don't believe violence is the answer. We're getting more and more people running for Congress and other elected positions that it would be rather counter-productive and quite foolish to launch a violent revolution. Besides, how many people do you think would be willing to do this? 5? 10? 100? 1K? The man power and the far superior weapons would end the revolution you're asking for fast.

Protest? Yes! Civil Disobedience? Yes! Getting more RP supporters running for office? Yes!

The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. James Madison

In canada yes for now

I also have a place in San Diego and do alot of business in Michigan, I'm a dual citizen due to marriage.

George Carlin seems to have a pretty good handle on the outrage that people are or at least should be feeling right now about the ruling classes.

This video has some serious straight talk.
http://youtube.com/watch?...

Agree and Disagree

I agree violence is not the answer. But not because they have stealth bombers. Anyone that thinks violence is the answer does not understand the source of "their" power. It is not the military or steal bombers, it is the control of the corrupt money supply. With control of the money supply comes control of resources, and the one controlling resources will always win. The founding fathers did have a sound money system and the reason they went to war was to maintain their sound money. That is what Ben Franklin said, and he was there. Franklin said taxes had nothing to so with the war and Americans would have endured them. It was the British attempt to end sound money in the colonies that caused the war.

We do not need violence to change the money supply, we need public awareness. We need to have an alternative to their money. Ron Paul has offered legislation to allow an alternative and we need to demand a support from every member of congress or work to have them removed from office.

The congress must be made to understand that we will not be distracted by their false issues. We want a sound money system now or we want new congressman. If every Ron Paul supporter made sound money an issue and talked about it to their friends/family/co-workers we might wake up this country, at least we would be doing the best thing we could be doing for America and freedom.

Support for sound money needs to be a requirement to hold public office at any level, not just congressional. That is how we make this an issue and create public awareness.

All this testesterone is getting more sickening.

There is disgust then there's fury. There are millions of disgusted Americans. There are thousands ready for war like you. Millions accomplish political change. Thousands are an asterisk. Blind fury may get you off but it won't get things done, period.

-JP

I welcome testesterone....

maybe the reason this country has become what it is, is for lack there of.
Men used to be men and weren't stiffled by femminist courts and schools.
Just a thought ..............

DDODD

HYDROMAN

Double Dittos on Dat Dude!

i totally agree tnwatchman

men did use to be men, and women use to be women.the elite knew that if they could break down the family, their plan would be easier to implement....and so under the guise of feminism and by using the term sexism they set about confusing men and women what their roles "should" be and thus destroy the family unit...there is a warrior spirit in all men and now is the time to breathe it back to life...we need you to be strong and stand up for what is right and be the americans our forefathers wanted you to be......use your heads,stay frosty, know the enemy and be one step of ahead of them,,,,

It's weird

Fortune Favors the Bold

I think this kind of cuts both ways. On the one hand, I think our culture has discouraged positive masculinity. On the other hand, I think it's promoted negative masculinity- i. e. fat lazy drunk slobs as "masculine."

Discourgaed by Design, It's No Accident

Your statement about masculinity is 100% right. Where are the men in this country? It as if they have no will to protect the future of their families.

Sly as a serpent gentle as a

Sly as a serpent gentle as a dove....
I'm feelin' you Sentinel.
My mission is to beat the beast at it's own game.
I can't take any credit for any of how I got positioned for this fight. The positionng began in September 2005 - before I even knew that the fight was coming.
My wife got me 'signed-up' in a day trading course. I had done commodities over the phone for about 9 years, but my main income was from my finance job working as a D.C. regional manager for a spin off company under Brown Brothers Harriman Bank. (the offspring of Prescott Bush)

Well I lost about $150,000 'learning' how to daytrade. But if you want me to figure something out and make me lethal, take $150,000 from me. I do not forget.

Today I can sit in frontof 4 monitors with a mouse and assault my counterparts who trade the S&P 500 and pull 6 and 7 figures out of their pockets in 6.5 hours.

Recently my insurance broker and one of my doctors (of all people) asked me if they could watch me trade and learn about what I do. So they set-up a hotComm room. They just login and whatever I see on my monitors, they can see on theirs. We can also talk back and forth.

This Tuesday we start the first 'class'. If I can continue being successful with them watching. And if I find it doesn't distract me, I may open the invitation to others.

There is nothing like having a group of committed people (who can make millions per day) with a mission to re-order their world.
One of the missing ingredients in our 'revolution' is resources.
The majority of the patriot groups are broke and always asking for money.

I mean even at the most simple level - distributing a small revolutionary newspaper - we can't keep the cash flowing.

I hope this experiment works out.

There are already many resources available
www.republicmagazine.com
www.restoretherepublic.co...
http://www.republicmedia....
http://www.freedomtofasci...

And there are dozens more out there. All they need is some cash flow to fuel their engines.

Would love to learn

My Dad, Brother and I have dabbled in futures trading but never really got serious. I would love to learn from someone successful. Here is my email please keep me in mind if you ever open it to others. Or perhaps you could point us to what you would consider some decent learning material?

hawkiye@cableone.net

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If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams

stealing from depression ?

I see this all the time in my business I'm a builder (I own a construction company ) I am seriously losing my respect for the monied people in Michigan who are buying up all these foreclosed homes for next to nothing right now. Four years ago a house that was worth 220000 ( We built it ) in Lansing Michigan was bought by a company I know for 140000 from the bank due to foreclosure. This is what is happening folks. The rich are now monopolizing on the people who have been forced out of work ( The big three auto companies mostly )and had to hand in their keys to the banks. They are sleeping in shelters while the elite take their homes for almost half of what they are worth. When the economy gets better ( if it does ?) those same houses will be sold again premium.

What's the alternative? The

What's the alternative? The system works for anyone who pays attention. My strategy is rob the speculators and help the families. Yesterday my wife and I looked at 250 acres of newly developed "Tax Free Industial Park Land". As it says below, this property is all ready to go. All underground utilitites - state-of-the-art sitework and it's been sitting there for over 5 years waiting for tenents. It has one company - a DOD contractor that has built and occupied. The whole development is idle.
http://www.mmida.com/news...
"The Middle Monongahela Industrial Development Association, Inc. (MIDA) was formed in 1966 to develop temporary and future plans for the 256 acre site suddenly idled when US Steel shocked the entire Mon Valley with the devastating news that it was permanently closing the historic American Steel & Wire plant."
http://www.mmida.com/inde...

So we will probably buy it for pennies on the dollar. Put in businesses that support patriot ventures, printing, mailing, video production, apparel, and fulfillment.

I got it Hawkiye.

I got it Hawkiye.

You go Daddy. A modern day

You go Daddy.

A modern day Robin Hood if I ever saw one.

"How long have you been a robber?
Four foot one."

I don't consider it robbing.

I don't consider it robbing. Although it sure seems like it.

Truth is, futures trading is one of the last bastions of truly free enterprise left.
I have no employees, no boss, no regulation except for the banks who treat me like a terrorist when I try to move money and the brokerage that wants too much information to open an account.

Where else can you go and start with a $1,000 computer, $300/mo in software and data subscriptions and $500 trading account margin to make $3,000 or $5,000 a day - in your bath robe? No car. No traffic. No office politics. Tax deductions for a business. And freedom of schedule. Want to take a day off? A week? A month?
That's pretty free to me.

I think we are arguing over

I think we are arguing over semantics.

But truly, no offense intended.

The quote is from one of my favorite old movies, Time Bandits.

Enjoy your trading... take them for what they are worth.

Jury Nullification - War on Drugs - Freedom of Speech - Et al..

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

Civil Disobedience - Recruit Everyone

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

Take the high moral ground

Take the high moral ground that Dr Paul recommends.

Try it the non-violent way first.

Be patient. I know it's tough and you want something to happen right away but something is happening. We're building a brand. The Freedom and Liberty Brand. We didn't loose what we have overnight and we won't get them back overnight but we will get them back. In fact it's already happening. Just hang tough and watch the changes occur.

Don't give up the fight.

This kind of talk is the excuse they are looking for

Fortune Favors the Bold

Yes, if Directive 51 is carried out, there will be revolt. But we SHOULD NOT strike first. As long as there is a chance for peaceful change, we MUST pursue it. That is what Ron Paul and his heroes believe in.
Ultimately, non-violence is what gives us the moral high ground.

Almost cut my hair - CSNY

Almost Cut My Hair Lyrics (Crosby Stills Nash & Young)

Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It's gettin kinda long
I coulda said it wasn't in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Cause I feel like I owe it to someone

Must be because I had the flu' for Christmas
And I'm not feeling up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like looking at my mirror and seeing a police car
But I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Cause I missed myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone

When I finally get myself together
I'm going to get down in that sunny southern weather
And I find a place inside to laugh
Separate the wheat from the chaff
I feel like I owe it to someone

Thank you for that. Thank

Thank you for that.

Thank you.

anymore I just call up a song

I grew up in the 60's revolution and still admire the non-violent call for change that it represented. Thanks for your ++

What's a "unick?"

Just curious; did you mean "eunich (someone with their nuts removed)?" If so, that's pretty funny, though perhaps offensive to those unfortunate enough to have dealt with the situation.

To the point, though, I agree with your assertion of armed and dangerous rebellion against those who find angry Patriots a threat to their political comfort zone (and if enough of us get pissed, their livelihoods and lives), but we're dealing with a much more insidious threat that is more capable of crushing an immediate small yet spirited rebellion thanks to the wonders of technology, which they unfortunately are constantly the first to test, use, and employ against those like us.

Let us ignite the fire of righteous fury in all those we know, and let it consume our nation, and let those in the dumbfounded media observe and ask their asinine questions and extoll their ignorant comments. By then, the only recourse would be martial law, and would come down to those of us with illegal weapons (fuck 'em, I ain't registering my semi-autos) versus the 21st-century redcoats. Inform, enrage, and eradicate. Then will our new day dawn :)

Of course, I'd rather see this fixed through systematic elimination of traitors via election of political opponents anathema to our current regime, but until then I'll be exercising my trigger finger on the 'range...

For Liberty!! *gong*

You can spot them by their hand signals

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

Well...

I think it would be a good start if everyone knew the hand signals of the enemy. They are using them everywhere. It is it's own language. They have words like "Stop at all costs" used by Sylvestro at 5:54 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

I think it is quite funny none of you can spot the enemy as easily as I can. Here is a tip. Pretend your dumb.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

Revolution?

I think it was Lenin that said people with full bellies make awlfull revolutionaries. As long as the government keeps the bread (and circus) coming they have little to fear.

become a ...

delegate, Senator, congressman, any public official... WE need some RON PAUL SHERIFFS... We can take our COUNTRY BACK!! for real

AMEN

I actually got shouted down at the last meetup here, I wanted to tell people how to become delegates. They wanted to talk about "getting 100 people together" to protest on the lawn of a local politician. Mind you, we have never had more than 25 people show up for anything.
GET ELECTED. That is how we PEACEFULLY take back our government.