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Vaccine maker faces manslaughter charges

Wow. Check out the story
two hopeful items have surfaced recently.
Reuters reported last month “French judges probe firms over vaccinations”
PARIS, Jan 31 (Reuters) - French authorities have opened a formal investigation into two managers from drugs groups GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi Pasteur over a vaccination campaign in the 1990s, a judicial source said late on Thursday.

Judge Marie-Odile Bertella-Geffroy also opened an investigation for manslaughter against Sanofi Pasteur MSD, a joint venture between Sanofi Aventis (SASY.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) and Merck (MRK.N: Quote, Profile, Research), the same source said.

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A couple of articles:

"EMERGENCY ALERT: Danger Lurking In Flu Shots - - Health Risks Far Outweigh Benefits!":

http://healthtruthreveale...

"Every Pregnant Woman Needs to Know This":

http://v.mercola.com/QA/E...

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Patrick G.
Polk County, Florida

aspirin can cause bleeding

im a nurse i know,,,,aspirin is not the innocent compound most have grown up believing,,,it can cause serious bleeding especially occult or unseen bleeding in the stomach....this is the reason why aspirin is always held at least three days prior to any surgery,,so yes in some individuals in some cases, it could cause uncontrolled bleeding and death

don't see

the big deal here..all this country is is one big lawsuit after another

Hey....

What is that under the bridge?

ohhhhh lookie

ohhhhh lookie lookie.......hahahah boy is at it again :) look at him go y'all!!

JLH, I prefer neocon's passion to your pathetic ignorance

and arrogance.

So then lob more hummus.

So then lob more hummus.

ah

our resident drunk is back..you do make me laugh with your nonsene..I sure hope people in real life don't assoiate you with our campaign..you wolud be a real liability to us

JLH or betterhalf,

whichever name you prefer best...

don't start it all over again...

or do you want another thread BAN JLH?

Don't

know who you are referring too, but neo is a little off balance

don't know

keywords for you... don't know a lot of anything

You aren't going to get me

You aren't going to get me to leave bro. The revolution is moving forward, troll or no troll. Just keep lobbing the hummus.

who

asked you to leave, your opinion is free to be posted and so is mine

you dont have an opinion.

you dont have an opinion. Only hummus :)

Secret Government Database

Secret Government Database
of Vaccine-Damaged Children

http://www.thinktwice.com...

Just one excerpt from that page:

Federal Admission of Vaccine Risks:

In 1986, Congress officially acknowledged the reality of vaccine-caused injuries and death by creating and passing The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (Public Law 99-660). The safety reform portion of this law requires doctors to provide parents with information about the benefits and risks of childhood vaccines prior to vaccination, and to report vaccine reactions to federal health officials. Doctors are required by law to report suspected cases of vaccine damage. To simplify and centralize this legal requisite, federal health officials established the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) -- operated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
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One can purchase a CD via that web page containing data from 1990 - 2004.

Disclaimer: I have no financial or other interests in bringing this to your attention. Found this link via Realityzone.com looking for articles by G.Edward Griffin.

By the way...

.....did the other thread on vaccines get deleted?

It's too bad if that's the case.

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Patrick G.
Polk County, Florida

Yes, it was removed

Why?

It's funny...

Anytime someone gives an example of a doctor being against vaccinations, there always has to be someone saying, "well what makes THEM qualified?"

Debate is NOT allowed on this subject.

Folks, that ALONE should raise eyebrows.

The collective blinders on this nation is astounding.

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Patrick G.
Polk County, Florida

If you think

vaccines are safe .............................. what does this Dr. say; www.youtube.com/watch?v=e... .. or this Dr. say.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...

I have seen

I have seen so many frivolous lawsuits in the medical industry it's hard to tell which are credible and which are not

Would you have some examples of

frivolous lawsuits in the medical industry, perhaps only some of the ones you have seen?

Yes

I've seen tons of frivolous lawsuits against simple drugs like aspirin thrown out...some accused it of making people bleed to death, but I've never seen anyone convicted..usually thrown out, with a rare settlement

frivolous

some lawsuites are, how ever some are based on reasonable evidence check this out .... .... http://www.youtube.com/wa...

ummm...

I think you missed my point in my question.
When someone says: I have seen tons of.... where? in what capacity?

Hearsay is what comes to mind... not personally been dealing with I have to assume. Your response isn't a convincing one.

Governments are 'wisening up' to the possibility of lawsuits re vaccinations. The Tamiflu (for this birdflu that's supposedly lurking around the corner), has disclaimers signed that no recourse or any claims are possible for possible side effects of the vaccinations.

The same has happened for vaccinations given to our children.

They know harm is done and allowing successful lawsuits will bankrupt the manufacturers and those politicians who have more than just one finger in the pharmaceutical pie.
Why would that be?

medical journals

medial journals I have read.....health magazines I read on planes...newspapers from all over the country.......personally I'm pro vaccination...I wouldn't hesitate to get a kid vaccinated or myself...several of my firends travel overseas and they sometimes get shots

Another posters who will not discuss

the new evidence of vaccine dangers. Just the same old, "I'm pro-vaccine, I wouldn't hesitate to get A kid vaccinated, beep, beep, beep, repeat message"

So sad. Makes no difference how many experts warn these folks. Experts who don't make a dime from vaccines.

davemac

i have five kids , if i knew then what i know now about vaccines, i would not have allowed them on my kids or myself ,,,or let my mom take those flu shots,,,,,she suffers with alzheimers by the way....you are so right, do not trust pharmacueticals,,,,,they are an evil lot and do NOT have our best interests at heart....almost two decades as nurse gives me the right to my opinion and i totally agree with you,,,,my conclusion is that some of us are genetically sturdier than others and have survived some of pharmacueticals onslaught.....its the only thing that makes much sense to me

Absolutely true in many cases.

Let's face it, the trial lawyers in this country are as powerful as the medical industry. Then add to that politicians and government bureaucrats who are always looking for another source of "free money" (the class action suits against the tobacco companies comes to mind). Then add even more, the lottery mentality of all the nanny-state citizens who are looking for a way to get rich off a legitimate mistake.

So there is that side.

Then there is the medical industry and big pharma in collusion with members of the FDA, who often end up on Boards of Directors of the pharma companies after they leave the government position. We do know that many drugs receive approval only to be recalled or even banned after going into large scale use. Then only to find out that the blind studies done were poor or incomplete or that data was actually hidden. Watch the TV ads for, oh, for example, a psoriasis drug I saw recently. Actually lists as a side-effect death. Death. I'm not sure why this would be approved for a skin disease. That's only one example.

I can only say that if I were to be on a jury on one of these lawsuits, I would be examining the motives of the plaintiffs as well as the defendants.

I'd say 15,000 people having reactions

to a vaccine, some deaths, etc is obvious.

Well

I will follow this closely and see how it plays out...usually it's either thrown out or they admit no guilt and make a settlement..I seriously doubt they get them for manslaughter

"Them" would be several infants

They died

NO

"them" is the drug companies and my guess is they settle.....most people seek monetary damges in a medical case

"Them" would be the ones who lied and that killed

the infants

lobbing more hummus.

lobbing more hummus.

Too bad

You guys are spoiling a perfectly good forum topic.

For Liberty!

The Hep B

They refer to deaths, but wasn't this the vaccine they stopped recommending after somebody won in court that it caused/triggered multiple sclerosis. That was in France too. (Actually, they suspended its use in France) It seems to have quite an impact on the nervous system----and all just in case somebody ends up high risk, ie an intravenous drug user, prostitute....exactly what we all need to protect infants from.

Actually, I really like this method. The Free Market forces bad medicine out and bad research. This is what should happen---too often government gets in the way and protects the big companies. (Like giving them immunity from lawsuits for flu vaccines)

Anyone

can sue anybody over virtually anything..........drug companies are sued everyday.....so far all you have is an investigation

I DISAGREE

STATED ABOVE

nope ANOTHER investigation!

This is just part two. It's been going a while. I wouldn't let anybody near my kids with a Hep B shot----but then, I have ms and any increase in risk is too much. I'll keep them off drugs and the street instead!

"15,000 French citizens filed a lawsuit against the French government for understating the risks and overstating the benefits associated with the Hepatitis B vaccine. Hundreds of people were reported to have suffered from autoimmune and neurological disorders, including multiple sclerosis, following Hepatitis B vaccination. As a result, in October 1998, the French Minister of Health ended the mandatory Hepatitis B vaccination program for all school children."

nope ANOTHER investigation!

This is just part two. It's been going a while. I wouldn't let anybody near my kids with a Hep B shot----but then, I have ms and any increase in risk is too much. I'll keep them off drugs and the street instead!

"15,000 French citizens filed a lawsuit against the French government for understating the risks and overstating the benefits associated with the Hepatitis B vaccine. Hundreds of people were reported to have suffered from autoimmune and neurological disorders, including multiple sclerosis, following Hepatitis B vaccination. As a result, in October 1998, the French Minister of Health ended the mandatory Hepatitis B vaccination program for all school children."

and AGAIN this dumb

and AGAIN this dumb motherfucker is busy refuting and playing down ANY kind of article that is counter to what fox news says. FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU BETTERHALF.

hey neo

please stop the f thing so we can stay united,they kicked me out for that and would not let me back in for days and they took my name and blocked it??wtf we need to keep strong in numbers so these trolls cant get this misinfo off! killer focus these trolls aint worth it !

NO

I didn't refute anything...the article says they have opened an investigation and that's exactly what I stated...there sure as hell is no shortage of lawsuits in the medical industry

This time you played it down

This time you played it down moron. You think you are slick with your semantics but it won't work b*tch.

"Judge Marie-Odile Bertella-Geffroy also opened an investigation for MANSLAUGHTER against Sanofi Pasteur MSD, a joint venture between Sanofi Aventis (SASY.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) and Merck (MRK.N: Quote, Profile, Research), the same source said."

Someone posted an article, right in line with Ron Paul's sentiments towards freeing us from forced vaccinations, and what do you do.........play it down and make some smart @ss comment as you always do. I am going to flag every one of your posts from here on out you idiotic troll.

I read the article and it's a valid story. I hope to hear what

the outcome is and if the vaccine is dangerous, civil penalties should apply for sure and if criminal intent can be proved, then jail time. Fine.

But you still cannot refrain from using obscene language, which indicates a very poor control of the English language and your awful temper.

tha, neocon is having an off night, lets give him some slack

Drug companies spent billions in the US to gain legal protection against vaccine law suits. They may be invulnerable here. Another good reason to avoid vaccines.

Off night

Bullcrap..that's all this clown ever does is cuss and swear and perhaps you missed the physical threat he made to me...I copied it for later use...way to protect one of your lackys !!

I never threatened you. I

I never threatened you. I just said I better not ever see you in real life. Your bank teller wife would probably wind up having 2nd thoughts about your marriage :-)

He threatened you over the computer and this bothers

you? You would run to the police with your threat? This is your version of small government? A guy makes a threat over the internet, no way to even know where you are , look like, etc? Silly betterhalf, grow some balls.

BitterQuif isn't running

BitterQuif isn't running anywhere with anything because nobody even threatened him.......although there ARE ways of pinging his IP address and deriving personal data from there :)