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WTF.....Explain this

How in the hell did RP get 35,470 votes in congressional district 14 and only 6,506 votes for president in the same district? Please check the numbers, but I dont know of any person that would vote for McCain if they were an RP supporter. RP should have clearly won the presidential and congressional voters in district 14.

congressional link - http://enr.sos.state.tx.u...

presidential link -
http://enr.sos.state.tx.u...

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I sent the info you found to the Galveston Daily News...

... as a comment on their story about Dr. Paul's victory over Peden. I also sent it as a letter to the editor. Thanks for the links.

http://galvestondailynews...

Nothing surprises me in politics anymore

the game has become so wicked, no one can follow it except the crooks who manipulate it.

Vote count explained

It's he who counts the votes, I thought we all knew that.

You're Probably Right

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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2 plus 2 equals 10 when it's for MCCAIN.

2 plus 2 equals minus 10 when it's for RON PAUL.

Just stated as an example, but it's been proven before to be the case. Minus 16022 (that's -16022, a negative 16022) votes cast not too awfully long ago for AL GORE; go figure (pun intended).

--That's a fact, Jack!
http://video.google.com/v...

They want to keep him there in TX and not

as a president. People are selfish, don't 'ya know.

BS

You pretend to speak for 35,000 people?

How can you not

no someone in the district that would vote for McCain.....In our landslide victory in the congressional campaign we got about 65%..that means 35% voted for someone else

Vote count explained

If you cast your vote for Hillary it will be counted, otherwise all bets are off.

One true tally

I would personally like to see just one true tally of Ron Pauls numbers. When you compare the votes against the support Ron Pauls numbers should be swapped with mccains and that is what I think has happened with diebold and the shills at the polling places.

I was wondering the same

I was wondering the same thing.

People Like to Be With the Winner

There are a certain percentage of adults that would pile into supporting "Vlad The Impaler" if it was clear Vlad would win.
Thats just the way it is.
Many, if not most, people do not use their votes inteligently, even assuming that they choose their actual preference based on real information. Its more important to them to "be right" in "picking" the winner than it is to actualy voice a preference.
Its all a big horse race ..

that's why I'm glad I have you all.

I am amazed when I talk to respected friends that will only vote with the majority. Only the lucky have found the freedom in Paul.

Vlad...LOL With the blood of

Vlad...LOL

With the blood of our children on his hands for the next 100 years...

Nebula hit it on the button.

Nebula hit it on the button. i've asked people to please explain to me why they support another candidate. and each time i get some ridiculously stupid answer like "Hillary's a girl and i'm a girl." well Hitler was a guy, but that doesn't mean i'd vote for him. even if i had the same cool mustache.

face it folks we're dealing with sheep. i'm still explaining to RP supporters the income tax. hopefully in the next few months i can get some Obama/Clinton people to remove their heads from their asses, but it ain't gonna be easy.

Become a delegate.

You did become a delegate, right?!

Rain Pain

Only When the droplets of rain, turn into pain, the lights will come on, in the American Brain.

Hot Damn Friend -- That's Pure Poetry // You Write That Stuff?

Vote RON PAUL 2008

That's known as.....

synthetic poetry. I've seen this style of poetry before. It's completely laden with subliminal messages. You must read between the lines, literally.

Well Of Course -- Read Between The Lines

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Not all poetry rhymes // some of the better stuff sounds like a short story, in fact, no rhyming to it at all. But I like what this Poster came up with. Makes good sense to me, rhymes and all.

'There was a girl from Nantucket' -- it's that kind of thing I still enjoy.

Diebold vote fraud.

Diebold vote fraud.

When It's Raining // Don't Try & Convince Yourself It's Not

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Meaning -- none of this makes a lick of sense until such time as you come to grips with the facts it is storming outside and that stuff you see falling from the dark skies is not sunshine // You need to shake yourself awake because this entire election process (this storm) has been rigged, one way or another.

RON PAUL being pushed by the media to the shadows while we all stood and watched. Sure some raised their hand in polite question -- but the strong arm doing the pushing continued to push didn't it.

The initial (and I mean from the very start) questions surfaced regarding DIEBOLD and human manipulations of numbers -- we saw the videos -- we read the reports -- we heard it from DENNIS KUCINICH when he questioned this at the outset. But it mattered not because the powers to be, i.e., the big wheels really controlling this election process turned in the direction they intended.

We stood by and watched with hope and amazement when there was initially 11 and then there was 3 and then ____ thinking to ourself that there truly is a Santa because if not we would have been shit-canned along with the others that left (i.e., GIULIANI, ROMNEY, and now HUCKABEE) // But those guys leaving didn't change the force that was really driving this election. No, all it did was show us that those others have been individual recruiters, collecting followers along the way that would soon be turned over and added to the real choice of those that would 'select' our President before even one vote was cast -- i.e., MCCAIN.

The fact that MCCAIN has many honest people screaming traitor (while he was a POW in Vietnam) and the facts that he was involved in the Keating 5 Scandal, and even last week's announcement of questionable behavior involving one of his female associates -- none of it means absolutely nothing -- Because when it rains, it pours; and some will stand there with their palm turned upwards wondering what is that wet stuff that's falling all around them. Hate to break it to you like this -- but it's corruption and it's greed, folks; time to wake up to that reality of that and get out of the rain.

Continuing to stand there and doing nothing will in fact do nothing but make you wet (or worse) give you a damn cold virus (like saaaay -- 100 more years of war, if you can understand my meaning there).

This entire election process has been rigged from the outset. There is no rational way to try and make sense out of MCCAIN over RON PAUL // It's just not possible. Yet it appears that way but only because it was planned to be that way from the start.

What does that leave us then?

Perhaps an 'independent' charge up the hill with our swords drawn before us.

Those that get in the way -- well you know the outcome that will surely result from that. An Independent run may be yet prove an option if RON PAUL will take it. Face it -- MCCAIN has the blessings of the gangsters in control // He always has. See for yourself:
http://dragonballyee.blog...

Help

Independents have never done well. The gangsters will still get him there too. The machines are crooked. If the machines don't help them, they have other tricks up their sleeves.

ITSNOWORNEVER

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Some of what you say -- I do agree. The machines are crooked and if the machines should fail them (no way that would ever happen though, we'd have to catch them in it redhanded so to speak -- probably still mean little to nothing in the discovery) they'd surely just turn to other tactics. Gangsters do what gangsters do best. And the hell of it is -- they actually think themself right and others wrong. They don't see anything wrong with sending our military to attack an otherwise innocent country, they don't seem to understand how WRONG that is. I suppose if gangsters could see their evil wrongdoings, maybe (??) they wouldn't be gangsters. Not sure (??) what that would make them. Is there really any such thing as a repentent gangster?

As to independents have never done well (I suppose it's all how the term is viewed):

-- Democratic
Fourteen members of the United States Democratic Party have served as president:

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)
Martin Van Buren (1837-1841)
James K. Polk (1845-1849)
Franklin Pierce (1853-1857)
James Buchanan (1857-1861)
Andrew Johnson (1865-1869)
Grover Cleveland (1885-1889), (1893-1897)
Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945)
Harry S. Truman (1945-1953)
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

-- Republican
Eighteen members of the United States Republican Party have served as president:

Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865)
Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-1881)
James A. Garfield (1881)
Chester A. Arthur (1881-1885)
Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893)
William McKinley (1897-1901)
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
William Howard Taft (1909-1913)
Warren G. Harding (1921-1923)
Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929)
Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)
Richard Nixon (1969-1974)
Gerald Ford (1974-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
George H. W. Bush (1989-1993)
George W. Bush (2001-present)

-- Whig
Four presidents were members of the United States Whig Party:

William Henry Harrison (1841)
John Tyler (see note) (1841-1845)
Zachary Taylor (1849-1850)
Millard Fillmore (1850-1853)
Note: Although Tyler was elected vice president on the Whig ticket, his policies soon proved to be opposed to most of the Whig agenda, and he was expelled from the party in 1841, a few months after taking office.

-- Democratic-Republican
Four presidents were members of the United States Democratic-Republican Party:

Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809)
James Madison (1809-1817)
James Monroe (1817-1825)
John Quincy Adams (1825-1829)

-- Federalist
John Adams (1797-1801) was the only president elected as a member of the United States Federalist Party.

-- No affiliation
George Washington (1789-1797) is currently the only president to have been elected without any official endorsement by a political party. Generally speaking, Washington's policies reflected a moderate Federalist agenda.

change the ballot laws first

change the ballot laws first then you can have independent candidates.
so not now, not never, but later. Now it´s time to help Ron Paul win the republican nomination, since he is the only republican left.
The nomination will happen at the convention in 6 months, not sooner and not later.

M72MC -- What Am I Missing? And Please Don't Say Brains :-)

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What is it you see that I don't? I see MCCAIN getting the blessing (today most likely) from GWB and crowd.

I don't know of anyone suggesting that our hero RON PAUL isn't the only true Republican (for he is certainly that) but the political party he seems to be running for doesn't seem to be in this race. It seems (to me) to be something other than true Republicans and other than true Democrats. It has morphed into something else disguised as these two major political parties.

That's how I view MCCAIN (not a real Republican) and HBILLARY (not a true Democrat) // so what does that leave us with? A false start --Something going on here that truly isn't what those in control would have us believe. A trick being played out right before our eyes. We know better, we've even heard RON PAUL declare himself as the only real Republican, the only true Constitutionalist. So then -- what are those other folks we've been seeing and hearing so much about?

What makes you think there's a light at the end of the tunnel? And that light will suddenly change focus and start shinning on RON PAUL? Please explain -- I'm very serious, please explain this to me. Thanks.

I know a lot of people

who would vote for Ron Paul as an independent. They just weren't willing to declare Republican to do it. :(

Excellent Post

Very well stated

you really trust any

you really trust any election results ?

Don´t you know, it´s a banana republic holding elections....with no verifiable results..

because

people might think he is better as a statesman than president.

Oh I have a REAL good one for ya...

I would also say explain "THIS"; but then I think it tends to explain itself.

I have now spoken with something like "7" Obama supporters - mostly via ONLINE at various times but more recently. I have asked them, "What issues of Obama's appeal to you?"

All "7" of these assholes - all from within different areas of the Web - have ALL said, and I quote this in their own words, "Because he stands for change that we can believe in!"

I have said to these different characters at different times - all in different locations on the Web - I have said, "What the F _ _ k! THAT's his "campaign slogan"! Tell me what "ISSUES" you find appealing of Obama?"

As it turned out, not one was ever able to say more than THAT or "because he is a nice guy!" type bullshit!

I also know of a woman whom is voting for Hillary entirely on the notion that "it is about time that we had a woman for a President!" (neither does this woman that I know even know of a single issue that Hillary represents or where she stands on any one single issue).

So how does all THAT explain things going on in this country (within people's f _ _ ked up minds and way of thinking?)

Self-explanatory OR WHAT!?

and why exactly

did you vote for george bush these years...perhaps a knee jerk reaction of some sort? or what he stands for...or should I say what he really stands for...or what he wants you to think he stands for?

Its always someone else who is the problem .

Things have changed

Yes, but, George Bush was not wearing such strong colors back when he was elected. I know some of you smarties saw right through him, but others did not. He lied. He is still lying. Some of us just have a hard time believing that someone can just lie in his position because it will be found out, and it has been. Late!! They always say a person expects what he gives and I actually do not lie. Never have very much and God always had someone catching me. Someone who does a pretty good job of walking the talk gets caught quickly on any transgression. We can't get away with diddly. We often want to sin, but we get caught and get badly embarrassed.

I guess my point was...

that we all vote based on our assumptions about candidates and not what they actually propose or don't propose or seem to propose. I agree with the original poster I responded to that mindless voting is an outrage. I just think that projecting it only on those you disagree with and forgetting your own blunders is blind and a inadvertent continuation of the tendency decried. But I am not so perfect either.

We have met the enemy, and he is us. All of us.

Do we have a good writer

Do we have a good writer here who could put together an article? We need to run it nationwide as a paid ad to raise the suspicions of Americans.

I also have some writing experience

I worked at a newspaper for a little while as a copy editor, and wrote a couple articles for a small magazine.

Just to be clear, SableArms was the first to offer.

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"I killed the banks"

I could help

I have copywriting experience--- mainly websites and some direct mailings. Also, a couple of magazines with a relatively small to moderate size circulation.

I wonder...

If many of them didn't know that he could run for both, and he campaigned pretty hard for his seat in congress. Much harder than he did for president.

I saw the same thing

It's highly suspesct and people from District 14 who voted Paul for Rep NEED to find out if others voted him for Pres too. There has to be a way to verify their votes. I smell a rat.

He gets 70% in his own district for rep but only 12% for pres???? Whatever.

There is an upside to this.

Get RP elected Speaker of the House by electing RP republicans in November.

Impeach the new Pres & Vice pres as soon as they commit their first crime.

RP gets sworn in as President!!!!!

Simple!

Most republicans agree with Dr Paul on fiscal conservatism.
Most republicans disagree with Dr Paul on foreign policy & national security

So they want him in the house, just not the white one!

Run Ron, Run!

Life's 2 short 4 mistakes

I would like to crack open

I would like to crack open those 30,000 skulls and see wtf is wrong with them if that's the case.

(this is gonna take some time...)

Have fun... pack a lunch!

A Wasted Vote?

People are strange, maybe because they knew RON PAUL had no chance in winning, they did not want to "WASTE their vote ?
Sick, I know.............

GOD BLESS US ALL

The media

When RP came out and said that he would NOT run 3rd party....Some newspapers ran an article titled "Ron Paul Won't Run" or something along those lines.

I ran into MANY that read that line and just assumed RP had dropped out of the race. From what I've seen, the same misleading type of article was in a number of newspapers across texas. People read the title and didn't read any further; assuming that he had dropped out.

Ran into several people today that had voted for Huck because they thought RP was out. Very frustrating.

Well... the way I see it, 3 possibilities

  1. This whole election is a crock of crap and the outcome is already determined.
  2. 35,000 people said Ron Paul makes a great Congressman but would suck at President
  3. The internet can not be trusted for any information

Unfortunately the more time that goes on, the more I lean towards option 1.

Forget option 3

As an Internet professional I can tell you no.3 is not an option.

The truth is you get more reliable data from the net than anywhere else

Keep in mind, we are at a pivotal moment in history

Fortune Favors the Bold

when the global economic system collapses, there will be two factions vying to rebuild society.

One will be the New World Order.

One will be us.

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You said it Brother.

Go Hard !

your quote has been

your quote has been immortalized forever.

I can't imagine

It makes no sense. I want to believe but following the doctors campaign makes me very suspicious.

I guess the only technical explanation is that people in the 14th think dr. no is perfectly OK as congressman but talks too much about freedom prosperity and peace to be our next military dictator.

I thank god that RP blasted that carpet bagger Chris Peden and will continue to hang on his words in congress or wherever he takes it upon himself to educate the sheeple.

OK, THESE MACHINES NEED TO BE DESTROYED

is anyone in the 14th district? Is it electronic voting or paper ballots?
If it is electronic, we need to storm the buildings holding these machines and and destroy them. There is no other way. They wont listen, they wont change, and THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW. I bet if we did this it wouldnt even be reported, why? THEY dont want the whole country in a revolt.