Is Ron Paul speaking to us in code talk?
Posted March 7th, 2008 by matthew13l
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On one hand, it seems like Ron is being straight forward with us in his latest video update. But on the other hand, I wonder if he is doing this intentionally, to cause the establishment to let their guard down... The convention is quite a ways away. A lot could happen. Who knows.
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Definetly, he repeated very often that as long as new people are joining and the donations are coming in, he is going all the way to the convention.
Keep in mind what he said in this video:
_Keep canvassing and getting delegates
_Organize and take over the republican party
_March on Washington on the 21. June
_The revolution is just starting
the "presidential" campaign is going to wind down soon! Which campaign? The RP campaign? The McSane Campaign?
why should he ask us to keep getting the vote out and getting delegates if he isn't going to the convention? Think!
The distorted message is not for us, it is for the Republican party and the MSM
Yeah... McSane won the
Yeah... McSane won the nomination and Ron Paul dropped out... no need to come out of your little boxes any more people. We have the nomination. No need to vote anymore....
Let them think what they will...
Bump
Voice of reason
Sounds to me
like Paul is saying to continue we need money and more people.
Also it sounds like he's saying start planning for the future of the movement.
Work with meetup groups to unite Constitutional Repubs (RP Repubs)
and win elections for this movement of restored liberty.
Keep asking yourself everytime you vote from here on out what would Paul do when voting for this or that or what does the Constitution allow.
Buy Paul's new book at Amazon.
Many things we can do.
Debate defecit spending and debt, with every person who believes gov should make more programs or spend more.
Let them know America's credit card is way over the credit limit, to the point of no return.
There are three messages in the video...
One to confuse the media, which worked.
One to list the reasons why you should not think he's dropping out.
One to energize the remnant.
Of course the "presidential" campaign is going to wind down soon. The primaries/caucuses are just about done. "Winding down" does not mean "quitting prematurely."
Let the enemy think what they will...
Let the enemy think what they will. The best form of attack is the element of surprise. So, you've got the idea of code. Part of the code is moving forward through this election process. Use the intelligence, wisdom and strength with in the movement that is rolling full steam. Attacks are not always visible. Precinct leaders, canvas, finance support, delegates and unwaivering commitment to Ron Pauls presidential nomination and message of freedom is essential.
Stay focused.
Plain English...
Dr. Paul speaks plain English. Apart from the gibberish the politicians usually use. He didn't say he's ending it, plain and simple. These media people love to read between the lines.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
I thought the same thing
That it will be up to us, WE ARE RON PAUL. That this is JUST THE BEGINNING. That we can NEVER GIVE UP ON LIBERTY. PEACE
The problem with going with just "the message"
I am not well versed in politics, nor in many of the critically important issues that face us at the national level. Having "the man" to speak for me was essential for me to get "the message" out. I tried to "wake up" my friends and family, and alienated them all. I cooled my jets and just asked people to look into Ron Paul, started winning converts. Without Ron Paul to point to, I am left trying to battle the MSM on my credibility alone. While I am a decent, honest person, I am no Ron Paul and do not enjoy the same level of respect in this society that he does. In other words, as much as I would like to spread the message, taking the man out of it pretty well muzzles me.
You gotta take it slow...
.. it's taken me a decade or more to sway some of my friends and family. It's taken my dad 25 years to come around but finally this year he did.
=)
I'm guessing your problem is that you don't have enough specific knowledge yet to counter some of the arguments. It took me nearly two decades of reading and learning to be able to seperate the lies and memes from the Old Media from actual reality. It's really overwhelming at times.
Hang in there. Keep reading. Keep learning. There are MANY ways to help out other than being able to convert someone through discussion and debate.
It'll happen. You don't have to be able to talk sense into anyone to be a delegate or a precinct leader....
=)
actually the problem is me
I am a high strung, emotional person. If I start to speak from the heart, I tend to tear up. People zone out when they see a stranger cry. I could "hide" behind the presidential campaign and not have to get into what is going on. For the past week, I have been calling people trying to explain the delegate process to them and get them involved. If there is no Ron Paul on the ballot, I do not have the "hook" to start the conversation.
I have been in this battle for 30 years, and was content to spend the rest of my life "wasting" my vote. I was convinced that Ron Paul was dedicated to THIS battle, for THIS presidency, so I jumped in with both feet. Now it appears I will be drowning for my efforts.
I'm guessing if you are hip
I'm guessing if you are hip deep in icy water right now, you are exactly where you are supposed to be.
Hold fast. Hold the line.
We're not going to let anyone drown.
We're very good at this, and we are getting better all the time.
thanks
to you and the martfuncher. I needed a boost.
Sounds to me like you've
Sounds to me like you've accomplished much more than you think you have and much more than the typical Ron Paul supporter has.
You don't have to be the "Great Communicator" or the toast of the party. If you expect to convert even one out of ten you meet on the spot you are creating a big burden on your shoulders.
I never really expected for Ron Paul to win when I first donated to him last June. What has excited me is that prior to Dr. Paul I was wandering around for 30 years wondering if there were more than a dozen people left in America that even thought about the Constitution at all ever. Now I am united with millions of new comrades! =)
I think you need a break, and that you are being way too hard on yourself. Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. When you get back in the game after a rest then just do what you feel comfortable with.
The next step is to get 10-20 Ron Paul Republicans in the House during the 2010 congressional elections two years from now. Imagine 10-20 new Ron Paul Republicans up in Congress raising hell exposing the Evil Bastards!
Woohoo!
sort of
He knows there is still a mathematical chance to get it done, but he also knows that the grassroots base is basically out of money, and the bankers aren't going to let us be wealthy, and federal campaign laws are prohibiting the free speech (via monetary support) of revolutionaries. So he is saying, get out there and educate the public!! We will keep track of the delegate counts here, and let that be our guide of when to switch gears. For now...
Let's get out there and get our guy elected
He said 'THE Presidential campaign is winding down', not 'MY Presidential campaign is winding down'
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
We all speak in code all the
We all speak in code all the time.
How well practiced at using the decoder are you?
*wink*
lol
lol
Yeah, you laugh, I probably
Yeah, you laugh, I probably get to learn that lesson twice today just for mentioning it.
"Millions of mind guerrillas,
Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel
Keep on playing those mind games forever,
Raising the spirit of peace and love, not war,
(I want you to make love, not war, I know you've heard it before)"
"It's all I can do..."
Sorry, it was the wink that
Sorry, it was the wink that made me laugh.
Yeah, that wink was probably
Yeah, that wink was probably my inner self saying "You asked for it, you got it."
=p
I love living in the universe!
It's the only place to be.
It's the only place to be.
Oh DC, I thank you for your
Oh DC, I thank you for your magical playful words today.
My heart is smiling.
Namaste
That makes (at least) two of
That makes (at least) two of us!
Ron Paul isn't speaking code - he is speaking in terms his
grassroots supporters understand!
Didn't you hear him say he encourages us to continue to get the vote out, become a delegate and caucus!! He also said the presidential election won't be won in the "conventional" sense -- of course not, silly! We need to win at the convention be it by brokered or unbrokered convention. He said it is more important to have a strong base (delegates) than to have the numbers (popular vote). Finally, he also asked us to continue to donate money. Do you think if he was quitting he would be asking for our hard earned dollars? Natta!
Don't stop now fellow patriots! We have a convention to win! It's all about the strategy. Keep pushing for 7 more short months!
Thank you for the News Flash...
This is the most encouraging news I've heard in a long time. My husband and I just turned in our information to be delegates- Pray for us! (or think good thoughts)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
No, and Ron Paul is not Cool hand Luke
Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand, sometimes its not.
Time to look forward, work for candidates "at all levels" , and continue the education process.
993
the magic number of bound delegates McInsane has slightly off of the 1191
http://www.thegreenpapers...
Yes
Nanoo Nanoo!
Dr Paul
Doesn't speak in code..the election is lost and he's planning phase 2 of the revolution
I'm starting to believe
JLH I'm starting to believe you are doing a diservice - the election is lost?? Now I'm understanding why folks are giving you a hard time...The election is not lost -
SPH Org/ronpaul.meetup.com/926
he said to
he said to keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep getting delegates loser.
yes
yes he did....only in hopes of influencing the party platform...but we won't even have enough to even do that
he didn't "say" that
I think Ron Paul is the most surprised and grateful guy in the country about the depth and fervor of support he has gained after many, many years of bucking the headwinds alone. I think he wanted to break the "news" of the impossibility, at this time, of presidential office, without discouraging his supporters from continuing to engage in the political process...maintaining their fighting spirit.
I doubt he ever envisioned that he would be in the position he is in today. He has a real opportunity, and accepts the responsibility, to nurture a sturdy legacy for what he believes in, and I am excited that he cares most about the big picture, the future. Not winning the 2008 election is not really a disappointment (more of an expectation), but he ran to get the word out that something greater is still possible and in that respect he is the unquestionable winner today.
Of course he isn't talking in code
However, didn't you hear him say he encourages us to continue to get the vote out, become a delegate and caucus!! He also said the presidential election won't be won in the "conventional" sense -- of course not, silly! We need to win at the convention be it by brokered or unbrokered convention. He also asked us to continue to donate money. Do you think if he was quitting he would be asking for our hard earned dollars? Natta!
So yes, JLH you are right...he isn't speaking in code. He is speaking in terms his grassroots supporters will understand!
Don't stop now fellow patriots! We have a convention to win! It's all about the strategy. Keep pushing for 7 more short months!
Victory is the Only Option
We will put RP in the White House - watch and see "My Friends".
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghegis Khan
Here's the decoder key...
Decoder Key ---> 51%
The moment a candidate gets 51% of the delegates during the primaries... *drum roll*... it's OVER.
The moment a candidate gets 51% of the delegates during the primaries that candidate AUTOMATICALLY becomes the Repulican Party nominee.
At that point the only way any other candidate could have a chance is if the 51% nominee became gravely ill, died or became the center of a titanic earth-shaking scandal.
When a candidate reaches 51% the ONLY role left for RNC delegates is to wave signs and boo or cheer speeches.
There is no secret hidden message or sneaky tactic to pull out of a hat at the last minute. McCain WILL get 51% in the next week or two or three. Dr. Paul and all the pundits know this.
51% = instant nominee
not true. the only way to
not true. the only way to become a nominee is at the convention in September. it is impossible to happen before that. Besides most delegates are not legally bound to vote any which way and no one knows how many delegates he´s got until they vote.
Do you not understand that
Do you not understand that McCain has the needed 1,191 BOUND delegates.
A "bound delegate" means they MUST vote for McCain in the first round. It is OVER. Non-bound delegates do not count towards a candidates totals.
McCain officially has the needed bound delegates YESTERDAY. I thought it would be next week but it happened yesterday.
Do you think the timing of Dr. Paul's latest video message today and McCain's official acquisition of his 1,191 **BOUND** delegates yesterday is a coincidence?
993
the magic number of bound delegates McInsane has slightly off of the 1191
http://www.thegreenpapers...
A comment by "The Green
A comment by "The Green Papers" staff on the very front page (note they are not quoting the Old Media):
www.thegreenpapers.com
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Tuesday 4 March 2008
"SUPER TUESDAY II" Presidential Primaries
Media reports have called all 4 States for Senator John McCain (R-Arizona); by most media-based delegate count estimates (which include endorsements by "Party Leader" delegates [the GOP equivalent of "superdelegates"]), John McCain has clinched the 2008 Republican Presidential Nomination.
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Notice that the writer for The Green Papers does not even hint at questioning the veracity of the media reports.
where is the proof he has
where is the proof he has that many delegates ? the media reporting ?
bound in most cases do not mean they are legally bound, besides the delegates can change the rules at the convention if they chose, unless I remember wrong.
and again no matter what there is IMPOSSIBLE to have a nominee before the convention in September. The whole point with it is to nominee someone, so lets not nominee anyone now, it is premature. A lot can happen in 6 months time.
I am aiming for an appointment to the rules committee
I don't have a crystal ball to provide me with visions of our future like JLH does, so I'm going to continue to use my wits and press ONWARD!
Rules can be changed, that's why rules committees are formed at each county convention. Dr. Paul has been around long enough to understand the rules as they stand currently. I can think of no reason to avoid becoming a delegate at even the lowest political level where we can start affecting change to those very rules.
Finding and focusing on positive, helpful, and insightful information here on the Daily Paul is getting harder and harder every month. Do what other die-hard DP regulars have been doing for months - learn to bump the useful posts and ignore the diversionary posts. We will not be so easily dissuaded from the message being spoken by Dr. Paul!
Why are you posting this negative crap?
Those delegate numbers are not accurate. McCain hasn't wrapped up squat - even if he goes to the RNC with the official numbers at 55%, it's stil not a foregone conclusion. It still goes to a vote and he will not win the vote. If it takes a full delegate revolt, he will not win the vote.
Not over, friend - not by a longshot. The 'code' isn't hard to see. Conventional means, he said - we will win it through UNconventional means. Important thing is though - we will win.
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Live Free or Die - Amen to that
When they say McCain has the
When they say McCain has the needed 1,191 delegates they are referring to ONLY bound delegates. Non-bound candidates aren't given to any candidates totals.
Bound delegates MUST vote for their candidate in the first round. McCain has more than 51% BOUND delegates. 51% = the nomination.
If I am correct about ALL of McCain's totals being bound delegates(and I *am* correct about it) and if I am correct that bound delegates MUST vote for their candidate in the first round (and I *am* correct about this also) then it's just simple math. Nothing to argue about.
The only hope left is if McCain croaks or gets caught cavorting with a teenager, etc.. Then Romney would probably "un-suspend" his candidacy and duke it out with Dr. Paul.
you can
knock out gravely ill. The guy is on his death bed already, and he is still going for the gold........too bad. Don't you have to pass a physical when you are president?
Yeah...
... he does look like if you squeezed his face his cheeks would pop like a giant cancerous zit and his flesh would fall to the floor revealing a tiny mutant alien lizard creature gasping for air and mumbling incoherently about dark caves filled with fire and intense heat.. and screaming....
=)
Ohhhhh ...
I was wondering what that was on his face.
LOL too too funny
I suppose I pulled the
I suppose I pulled the imagery from Men In Black.
hehe
I deciphered the code - the results will astound you
Using the Mesopotamian and Aramaic method of vowel removal to conjugate nonsensical smack I have determined Ron Paul's code message to be as follows: G o t o R o n P a u l 2 0 0 8 . c o m. I'm not sure exactly what it means but as I pondered it I went to RonPaul2008.com, donated to Ron Pauls campaign, and clicked on the button that says: "Now there are two". Two what? Republican candidates? Too much sense? Who knows? It seems all...so....vague.
Same results I got...
I used my decoder ring though.