Rand Paul: Is the Revolution Over or Just Beginning?

to stomp on. Hopefully some of the new blood can reenergize some of the old blood.

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I think we will be able to handle the Revolution on our own.We are getting more educated and more powerful every day.

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Both of the major parties have changed so much in the past few decades (not to mention from when they were founded) that it is hard to determine what they really stand for. They each have a platform, but neither one seems to follow it. It seems that their only real goal is to stay in power or to get power.

Historically, the Democrats were formed in the early 19th century by anti-Federalists whose main goals were related to states rights and reducing the power of the Federal government. The Republican party was formed shortly before the civil war and their early issues concerned ending slavery, getting free land for people who wanted to move west, and getting the vote for women.

It seems to me like the parties both did a major flip.

When I vote, I look at each candidate individually and ignore their party. It does take a lot of work, but I look at it as hiring someone to run our government and I want to make sure we get someone who will do a great job. Flagstaff Doctors

Stopping relying on three second sound bytes.

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Watch and feel the power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It just depends on how much money you want to put into your project. There's nothing wrong, per se, with your idea, but you do realize that Dr. Paul won't be our RNC nomination, right? McCain, unfortunately, will or does by now have enough "bound" delegates to get the nomination. So, I don't know. Just think about it...many hardline Republicans won't change their mind, until they are forced to by the events occurring around them, sad, but true...BTW, it would have been a GREAT idea, if we were headed into a brokered convention. I don't mean to throw water on your idea. It's always good to educate our friends, and our future friends. If you get involved in local politics, make friends, then talk & convert, if possible. There are many ways we can educate. Good luck.

Personally I think the best thing we can do at this point is to identify all the of delegates nationwide and bombard them with enough information that they will finally be convinced Dr Paul is the only way to go. In my area I am going to try to identify all the state delegates, (there aren't that many, only 114 I believe) and start sending them DVD's and other literature like Aaron Russo's film American Freedom to Fascism, Alex Jones' Endgame, and the Hacking Democracy documentary. I think lots of these delegates have just been misled and brainwashed by the MSM and because there are so few of them we could effectively de-program them with a concentrated effort. Any opinions?

to hang in there with us for a while until we get stronger and more confident and then I think
we will be able to handle the
Revolution on our own.We are getting more educated and more powerful every day.I have a lot of faith in "us" and I think we can do this!!!!!Feel the power!

Could Ron Paul’s video be a strategic attack on the MSM?

As a running candidate for the US presidential election 2008, Ron Paul has been ignored by the MSM and now with this video they all mention that he has dropped out of the race.

Hasn’t his video made more people aware of his participation?

His campaign will continue and will make the MSM more ridiculous and awake more people with his message.

Finally, excellent coverage.

Agreed it is up to us now.

See you on 6/21.

Ron Paul is leaving it up to us folks! So put your energy behind the Revolution. We talk about not wanting government in charge, well Ron Paul is giving us a chance to demonstrate how this is done. Don't look to Ron Paul to do all the work, and just throwing money at the problem isn't going to work either!

Be in Washington on the 21st of June as requested by Ron Paul.

If you can't be a delegate, then volunteer at the convention, you will be able to influence undecided voters.

http://www.gopconvention.com/volunteer/general.aspx

http://msp2008.com/volunteer.php

This video clip just confirmed what I thought. He has admitted he will not win. There will be no brokered convention--Huckabee couldn't get enough wins to do that. And, so....

It falls back on us. Many are tired and broke and spent. Some have the energy to go forward and actually be involved in local politics. Some will run for office, and that's great. And, many will fall back into their previous world of muddling along. We should not be angry at those who choose to have limited involvement, because thousands of them invested unlimited time and money to help this Ron Paul's endeavor towards the Presidency. Some are plain worn out. I know I am.

However, it is no longer about trying to get Ron Paul in office. He and his son are now asking us to "get involved" in our local politics and to finish out the delegate process, if we so choose to do so. And, you have to understand some people didn't sign up for that journey. And, some think the only difference that would have helped this country would have been a Ron Paul presidency, and now, the country is on such a rapid decline, they wonder if it's just too late to go bottoms up from local to state to congressional. Dr. Paul said he knew of about 6 Congressmen who were his friends and were quitting, because they had "had it".

That's my doubt. Is it too late...

I'm going to have to think hard and long about further involvement. Others will, too, because it takes more committment, more personal money, driving to conventions, going to meetings, etc. etc. All for what? A message sent to the Republican GOP. I think they know how we feel, but they are hardened in their own beliefs. We cannot change them. Time will force change upon them, but it may very well be impossible to stem the tide, by the time they wake up!

It is unfortunate that the wealthy banking elitists have succeeded in brainwashing the Republican party into thinking that neverending occupations and wars are a good thing. It is too bad that many Republican Americans have fallen for the same "terrorist" crap, but they have. And, without the help of the Media in re-educating them, what hope is there?? I know people who've been fighting for this for years, all to no avail. And, Dr. Paul is one of them. Americans are too fat and happy, and if we can't even get them to investigate the facts on the Internet, how are they going to know the truth?

I WISH the other side was right, but I know, and you know they are not. The fruits of their beliefs are destructive. They continue to destroy the American culture, the American dollar, and all that we held dear. Dr. Paul found that fighting the MEDIA where there is so much private control over the airwaves by warmongers like Rupert Murdoch of FoxNews and GE who has military interests and owns NBC; fighting the GOP was akin to fighting a pit bull, and finally, fighting the BANKERS and the Federal Reserve (which is so entrenched with groups who benefit from them), and fighting the CFR which is SO powerful and unbelievably strong, well, it all makes me dizzy to think about, but that's exactly what we were all fighting!

I wish good luck to those who go on from here, but I do have my own doubts about how we can change this mess, especially when I see these sick ideologies at local and state levels. As for myself, I don't know what I'm going to do from now on. Regardless, I certainly wouldn't feel like I was a quitter, after all the work and money I gave.

I just don't know...

While I personally have no confidence in Sen. MCcain, I thought it best not to put that resolution forward because of fear that it might of prejudiced some of the folks at my precinct convention against the other 14 resolutions. Ultimately, a state resolution of no confidence in MCcain would be unlikely to change much, whereas I feel it is imperative that the GOP embrace statements against the NAU and NAFTA, the Kelo decision, and the Federal government stealing states rights in Roe V. Wade. I was able to pass all of my resolutions even though 3 of the 6 people were staunch MCcain supporters. I'm not telling anyone how to approach there precinct conventions, but I do think it behooves us to tread lightly when it comes to MCcain . . . at least until we are at the National Convention. God willing, we will have a majority Monday morning in Minneapolis, and we can make a motion to unbind all delegates. Then we can get down to ole' school politics.

Rand is correct, the Revolution is just begining!!
Fasten your seat belts and get ready for your county and state conventions. I think you will be surprised at the RP support. I know I was.
Be prepared to CHANGE your platform and your resolutions. This is a good place to start.
For example, amend your resolutions to include
1] No confidence in John in McCain
2] A resolution on World Government Organizations
3] A resolution to protect the bill of rights etc...
This is the start. Next step, sucession.

Thank you Rand for clearing this up. My goodness people we ready to give up on a whim. I say we need a major money bomb to let Dr. Paul know we're 100% behind him, no matter how the media exaggerates and twists the facts.

Cheers,
Mark Bednarczyk

I just donated the other day and I plan to do it at least once a week until I hit my limit. I just want to keep the ticker moving and let Dr. Paul know that we will continue to fight.

If McCain were to drop out for whatever reason, would a former candidate be allowed to re-enter the race??

Or would Dr. Paul be the nominee by default?

Or would the GOP be allowed to insert another puppet candidate at the last minute and give McCains delegates to him/her?

Just curious.

is that I am MORE FIRED UP then ever. Ron Paul opened my eyes. I am involved now...now stopping me.

agreed .. bump this ... strong morale boost!

statement from RON Paul when he is on CNN tomorrow that he is still in this and fighting for every delegate at the convention in ST. PAUL. Much will change between now and then, he must stay in this! Surrender is not an option...the future of our country is at stake, and the whole world is counting on us to get this done.

in the video was not ambiquous, it was more carefully formulated in the light of the realities. The statement that victory in the conventional sense was not possible anymore, refers to the delegate status currently, as perceived by the media, who has already crowned McCain the presumptive nominee. The description "in the conventional sense" is very important. If he would not have said or mentioned anything like this, the media would have described him as a kook and crazy, to think he can still win. We saw already what they have done with Huckabee before the second Super Tuesday victory. This all does NOT mean Dr. Paul cannot get the nomination in the "unconventional" sense of the word, like with McCain making a big mistake that cost him the nomination, something happen to his health, a big backlash by conservatives against McCain, some delegates changing their support during the convention to not support McCain anymore, the possibility of stealth Ron paul delegates among the others, the possibility that something drastic can happen, like Bush/Cheney getting impeached, the situation in Iraq drastically changed, shocking revelations about McCain etc. There possibilities do exist, but Dr. paul cannot elaborate or name them strongly in a public statement and frankly do not need to also. But also if
McCain does get the nomination, it is very good to get the maximum of delegates and we have a historic chance in the remaining primaries get achieve great results, as all this will show power and a stronger "bargaining power" at the conference and beyond. Public support and resulutions from their members is what is going to change the GOP establishment's minds about adopting a non-interventionist foreign policy. And Dr. Paul cannot do all this alone. He needs not only the support of all in specific ways, but also need many more congress representatives and senators and well as governors support to muscle power, apart from those that he already has in congress. If there is such a strong movement, many existing congressmen may also fall in line with us...

Rand. It is very clear and inspiring to all Ron Paul supporters, as well as potential one's.
I just heard on CNN (international version) some interviews with people on the street about who they think will win the election etc. and the last guy - young, perhaps a student - said clearly Ron paul. The reporter was very surprised and asked him how is that going to be possible. The guy had a great answer, and smiling and with confidence said, he (Ron Paul) is like a ninja and will "sneak" in. The news announcer did repeat the catching Ron Paul as ninja then. SOmeone can get a recording of this and post it on youtube??

It would be a good idea if Rand Paul can run for a congress seat in Kentucky? I think/read before he is interested, but he had to persuade his wife. I also read his brother - who is in Texas, same district as his father I think - Robert is also considering. This would also be a good idea, if there is a position in Texas where he has a good chance. Otherwise, - in case Ron Paul does not get the nomination, Ron Paul can ran for senator or governor somewhere and Robert Paul can take over his father's district?

Will you meet me with your Ron Paul sign at the republican national convention no matter what?? ................. I will be there. ...............Will we have ....2, or .... 10 or ....a hundred show up?? .......... I'll be there. ...... Will you?? ............... Over a hundred and fifty thousand people donated to his campaign and there are still new people that have never donated to his campaign still joining in to donate..... Wouldn't it be awsome if a hundred and fifty thousand people showed up with Ron Paul signs at the convention. ..... but, with the right motivation I believe we can again do massive fund raising for the freedom message. ........................... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCKMTo210k&feature=related ....If in August Ron Paul received ...........................a hundred thousand dollars couldn't he have a huge effect on the convention ........................... if he spent that much in August alone to get the people to demand that the convention delegates suspend the rules and have an open nomination at the convention to nominate someone that would promise not to violate the constitution ??? Just a wish, however Will you meet me in Minneapolis with your Ron Paul sign wither you or I are elected to be national delegates ??

clearly "victory in the conventional political sense is no longer available" means that whatever it is that we win will have to be won in an unconventional way. thats all he said- and followed with "get as many delegates as possible."

lots of delegates were elected to District/State conventions here in NC. not a majority, but i bet a higher % of ours stay involved since our candidate hasnt 'already won' as mcain has, and Congressman Paul's message has more value.

naysayers and resilient supporters alike, become a delegate and meet me at National Convention. see you in 5 months. lets finish what we started, regardless of any so called 'chances'. It aint over till Congressman Paul concedes or someone gets 1191 votes on the floor of the national convention..

We are not likely to survive another presidency like the previous (2) nut-job fascists psychopaths we've had to endure. If Paul does not win, now, this country is toast. I don't want to hear about how our ideas are spreading and this is some kind of moral victory. We need the Win, Period. The media has committed fraud throughout this campaign. There was proven vote fraud in NH and LA. and pretty much anywhere else that was inspected. Where is the fight in Paul? What good will a seat in congress be when we are in a Dictatorship? Total endless war and a tyrannical police state is what we're looking at if we don't get the criminals out of the white house. A seat in congress is not going to do that. We are about to lose EVERYTHING this nation has ever stood for. Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.

Mr. Paul is just what this country needs...

We need to get government out of things they shouldn't be in. It's costing us our money and our freedom.

I do hope that he pushes on and continues the race.

If Ron Paul was "secretly" trying to throw off MSN and the rest of the media then why did he do that very ambigious video about not being able to win the nomination but continuing the Revolution. Clever as a fox? like some of you are saying? Please, do you really think that this is a secret site and not one else knows what you are saying? Nothing is secret on the internet.

To me, Dr Paul is saying that he can not secure the Presidency for whatever reason (the media, the elite doing whatever they can to discredit him etc) You can pick whatever reason or theory you want but the truth is in my mind equals....Dr Paul knows he won't win (sorry to upset the diehards that will not let go but believing he will win will cost us the revolution and is putting all you eggs in one basket).

What I think Dr Paul is saying is he has started something that is waking up America as to what our government is doing and he is also educating us as to what we need to do at the same time. I have learned more about our government and our economy in the last 8 months than in my entire lifetime.

Our government, the globalists, elite, the UN, CFR and every other organization in the world could care less about the poor and the middleclass in America or in any other country in the world. These elitists OWN us and control everything that happens to us. I believe that Dr Paul has accomplished more than he could becoming the President. He has educated us, made us aware of what is happening and what to do.

A President only has so much authority BUT Congress is the key. I'm going to continue to support Dr Paul campaign until the last dying breath BUT now I am going to start looking very closely at Congressional, State and local candidates running for office. I will do what I can to help candidates that are Ron Paul like-minded win their campaign. This is what I feel we need to do. We are already seeing Ron Paul supporters that are seriously considering running for office. Also, Dr Paul has been guiding us as to what candidates he supports and endorses. Getting these individuals will change our government to look at things the way that they should have in the beginning.

Dr Paul is a mentor and is the core of the Revolution but we are the only ones that can change our government and our future. He is one man, we are millions. God Bless Ron Paul because he is our light to freedom.

and these are 5 friends in one county.

i just wish ron would quit saying just fight on for planks or ideas. this race is about him winning. the next 20 years will be about planks and ideas.

with a lot of discouraging words coming out of the campaign they are causing people to not want finish out the process.

try focusing more on winning and not just playing on the margins...

E Pluribus Unum...

.....Out of many, one.

Not ambiguous at all, really positive and light. Thank you Dr. Paul.

Guess its time to get back on the saddle, get my precinct in order and ride the momentum till the convention.

Thanks for the update on this beautiful Sunday morning here in NW Mo.

I stumbled on a idea when I was looking through my local paper the other day. They were looking for people who wanted to enter a float into this summers parade(there is two parades a summer). I live in a small Minnesota town and there are probably a couple dozen other towns in a 50 mile radius, and they all have at least one parade. I'm looking for other Ron Paul supporters in the Vergas Minnesota area who might want to help me create a Ron Paul float. Hopefully someone with a imagintaion and a vision. I have a large trailer to use. Also I'm hoping other supporters might consider the idea also if they have the oppurtunity. It would be a great way to spread the word and might be alot of fun. Contact me at badger114@eot.com.

I stumbled on a idea when I was looking through my local paper the other day. They were looking for people who wanted to enter a float into this summers parade(there is two parades a summer). I live in a small Minnesota town and there are probably a couple dozen other towns in a 50 mile radius, and they all have at least one parade. I'm looking for other Ron Paul supporters in the Vergas Minnesota area who might want to help me create a Ron Paul float. Hopefully someone with a imagintaion and a vision. I have a large trailer to use. Also I'm hoping other supporters might consider the idea also if they have the oppurtunity. It would be a great way to spread the word and might be alot of fun. Contact me at badger114@eot.com.

I figured out on Super Tuesday 1 that Ron Paul wasn't running for the Republican nomination; he is running for president. I'm counting on him not to get the Republican nomination, which is the kiss of death this year. I'm counting on a McCain/Obama/Nader/Paul contest.

We don't need no stinkin' nomination. We don't even need his name on the ballot. This is the year of the write-in protest vote. Ron Paul is easy to spell and remember.

There are so many things to protest, most of all the choices presented to us by the major parties, and the idea that those parties choose our candidates. 40% of the electorate are disenfranchised independents. And those are just the currently registered voters. Energize the apathetic, and you have a majority, not just a plurality.

Ron Paul hasn't been running on his own power; we have carried him this far on our shoulders. We can carry him the rest of the way into the White House, even if he isn't running. Do you see yourself voting for anyone else?

Even if we don't make it, if we force write-in vote counts throughout the nation from sheer numbers, it will drive a stake through the heart of the party system.

Live free, and prosper.

Rycke

Currently writing at ILoveGrantsPass.com and Jefferson Exchange Forum, ijpr.org.

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I needed that. :-)

I'd still like Jesse/Ron to clarify what is going on w/r to the candidacy per se. However, I'm going full speed ahead here in Oregon.

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I do

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