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Are we headed for a repeat of 1930s-style bank failures?

There is almost too much news going on in the financial world to even begin to try to analyze and discuss these days. I was watching financial cable news this weekend on Fox, who are usually cheerleaders for the market, and the mood is extremely pessimistic. I was amazed. So rather than comment on the 10 ongoing crisis at the moment, I've been thinking about some specific terms that should be defined... words we will soon hear a lot in the future. What's a systemic margin call? What is a cascading cross-default and why should you care?

Margin Call

So, let's say you put up $10 billion as colatoral so you can borrow $85 billion in order to invest in $95 mortgage backed securities. You do this cuz in the future you think those investments will be worth $100 billion. Once it hits that point you sell for that price, pay your broker back the $85 you borrowed, you recover your $10 billion in collateral and you pocket that $5 billion spread as profit. That is how you leverage and that is how you go "long" in a market.

So, what happens if those investments go to $70 billion instead of $100 billion as you hoped? Well, your broker or bank will notice that and will demand you put up more collateral. Because, after all, if you were to sell at $70 billion, instead of $100 billion, you'd end up losing $25 billion, which is more that what you put up to begin with. Your credit worthiness is now being challenged. So, the bank issues a margin call and demands you put up more money, maybe another $10 billion. But you don't have the money. So you sell your assets. You may have to sell stock that you'd like to keep in order to support the margin call, thus driving down demand (and price) of the stock. But what if you don't own enough stock, or what if there is ZERO demand for the debt you are holding? Then you become insolvent and the monetary base shrinks.

Systemic Margin Call

JPMorgan has issued a warning about what it calls a "systemic margin call":

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wall Street banks are facing a "systemic margin call" that may deplete banks of $325 billion of capital due to deteriorating subprime U.S. mortgages, JPMorgan Chase & Co, said in a report late on Friday.

JPMorgan, which sent a default notice to Thornburg Mortgage Inc. after the lender missed a $28 million margin call, said more default notices and margin calls were likely. The Carlyle Group's mortgage fund also failed to meet $37 million in margin calls this week.

Yes, that Carlyle Group. Even the insiders are even in trouble. So what about all this? The risk is that one failure will lead to another, which leads to another, causing a general change in psychology where leveraged positions have to be unwound in order to raise capital to maintain solvency. Each liquidation leads to additional stock market losses and thus more margin calls and thus more liquidations -- this is what would be known as a "deflationary spiral."

Cascading Cross-Defaults

Given Bernake's studies of the 1929-1933 financial crisis, he is aware of the risks and has been taking actions to prevent the above from happening. One mechanism has been the TAF, which allows banks to anonymously trade mortgage back security and US Treasuries for cash, in order to maintain reserve requirements. The Federal Reserve is essentially turning bad debt into money and nationalizing vast sums of private real estate in the process, thus inflating the currency in an effort to maintain the monetary base in the face of the feared downward spiral. Every attempt by a central bank to avoid a debt-induced credit collapse in the past has met with hyperinflation (which I personally would define as > 100% per year in inflation).

By inflating the money supply, this will provide enough liquidity to the system in order to avoid what is known as a "cascading cross-defaults." Its a situation where banks call in loans they've made to each other, or various other financial/corporate entities, and the borrower doesn't have the money. This, in turn, would cause another entity to not have needed cash flow and thus be put at risk of also defaulting on an obligation. In such a scenario, one bank after another would fall like a domino causing an even further collapse of markets and pretty much every asset class. What would this mean for you? It would all end with you coming back to your office to find out that two other co-workers also had ATM cards that didn't work. On the third day of such a scenario the nation would have a full understanding of what was happening and then, the American public would handle however they would handle it. It would probably involve angry crowds at banks and the National Guard. It wouldn't be pretty -- and it would be just the beginning of a nightmare.

The Panic of 2008

The Fed, given Bernake's understanding of the 1929-1933 panic in US markets is trying to address this and prevent the above scenario from happening. Without a sudden reversal in the markets or a solution to mounting credit worries or a change in psychology, I'd put the chances of the above scenario working itself out over the next 18 months at about 35% The way the Fed is acting is entirely consistent with a program one might be tempted to undertake to stop the panic and problems of the aforementioned scale.

Deflation Death Match & What Now?

Essentially, this a Death Match for the central bank. The last time the Fed dropped rates twice in 10 days was the Panic of 1914. That year the New York Stock Exchange ceased trading for four and a half months. Many forsee deflation as the great evil that lies ahead. Yes, that's what *should* happen if the system were allowed to correct intself, but I expect a large amount of governmental intervention, which would probably lead to an attempt to inflate our way out of the problem. Its possible they may find somehow a way to actually do that.

Given the speculation in commodities and panic buying of contracts in a manner that is inconsistent with demand, I sense smart money is quickly moving to tangible assets (like gold). If we have a sudden crash in prices of commodities, I'd interpret that to mean investors are liquidating anything they possibly can in order to meet obligations and the Fed's attempt to inflate is failing. Or, prices could keep precipitously rising as an early warning sign of pending monetary inflation brought on by the Fed's policies. We'll be looking at 10% monthly inflation in 12 months or half of all banks will be out of business. Or nothing will happen. Either way, we'll have a much better idea of where things are going soon enough.

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Stay focused!

Ron Paul is leaving it up to us folks! So put your creative energy behind the Revolution. We talk about not wanting government in charge, well Ron Paul is giving us a chance to demonstrate how this is done. Don't look to Ron Paul to do all the work, and just throwing money at the problem isn't going to work either!

Be in Washington on the 21st of June as requested by Ron Paul.

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Be gone the warring statists, it is only we free persons here.

I'll be there for that, for sure.

By the way, who are we, aside from Ron Paul supporters that refer to themselves as the R3volution? We are amateur financial analysts, we are internet and telecom engineers, computer programmers, artists, college students, young, hip housewives, economic conservatives, principled liberals, hemp farmers, gold and coin dealers, free thinkers, gun owners, hippies, Unitarians, Randians, Austrian economists, home schoolers, black men in prison for drug crimes, and the adult entertainment industry.

We are the voice of th 21st century, only temporarily muffled by the last gasps of dying media forms such as TV and the joke that print today is. This, I know we all see to be true, will be the last election a small, self-appointed elite of media get to pick presidential candidates. The next time around - The People. It promises not to be boring. It may, in fact, come at the Democratic convention and for once in decades the crowing won't be pre-ordained. Someone might actually have to argue reasonably for something. Imagine that.

We had our Goldwater movement. We need our Reagan. And as most people in the R3volution understand by now, we are in a full-on economic crisis, the kind which only Ayn Rand or Murray Rothbard could adequately explain. We understand the problems. We know how we got here, or we wouldn't be a part of the R3volution to begin with. When the collapse comes, in either hyper-inflationary or deflationary colors, we will be the only people with the answers. Remember, we are proponents of fair and peaceful interactions with others. We advocate not violence, coercion or fraud. We merely understand what real money is and debt and what it will do to us, our children, and grandchildren. We need to rip the basis of our understanding of money from limb to limb and replace it with an honest measture of value that holds no liabilities, such as gold, silver, platinum, rhodium, polladium. Or currencies, such as the Swiss Frank, which is backed by precious metals. The sooner the banking system realizes this is the correct path, the faster this will all be fixed.

Stand ready my brother's and sisters. When you hear of a bond issuance failure, know it is a crack in the system. When a bank fails, know you are closer to being right. When the Fed generates $200 billion out of thin air and reduces rates below 0%, effectively paying people to borrow money, the point of no return will be reached and our primary topic here will be survival. Expect 18 months of hell we ever past an event horizon where the Fed is lending 100 dollars with the understanding that they'll get 95 back.There will be no return from that.

Bank failures coming in days with the speed things are running. We libertarian economists now realize, the day of reckoning has arrived. Let us reckon. Let us reckon together. And let us reckon victory, one soul, one person, one vote, one hamlet, one town, state, until the deluge, spreading across the land, makes liberty, peace and freedom the choice of a new age for the remnant leadership who will right the course of American history, from disaster, to a safe, prosperous, free, and cultured republic.

Be gone the warring statists, it is only we free persons here.

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Paulverise is correct

the failures in the 30's were based on one thing and one thing only liquidity.

The only reason for a bank failure is the inability of the institution to meet it's financing requirements. Fractional reserve banking is an issue to day and the fed takes responsibility for funding small bank's cash requirements. This "responsibility" IS liquidity.

If a bank fails it is because the regional fed bank LET THEM FAIL.

How does the regional fed prevent your local bank from not being able to meet it's cash requirements?

BY NOT HITTING A BUTTON ON THEIR COMPUTER.

Real simple.

If your bank croaks, it is because the fed let them croak.

Now stop getting your lessons in one world government from the daily paul and get out there and research.

Banking failures are not banking failures.

Banking failures are the people who control our reality killing a bank because they WANT TO.....not for some horrible uncontrollable reason.

Research!

(1929 was planned...it was not some dreadful flaw in the system that the government needed to fix)

Fractional reserve and

Fractional reserve and no-reserve banking are fraud. There was a dreadful flaw in the system in 1929 and it was created by the government in 1913 -- the Federal Reserve.

If an economy is that easy

If an economy is that easy to plan, and destroy, why not just plan to make everyone rich! Regardless of what reality is, its a bit of stretch to say "one thing" caused the failure of the banks in the 1930s.

The Fed's new TAF window,

which has another 50b on auction now, is (presumably taking bad debt or live hand grenades no one else wants) in exchange for good money and thereby partially Nationalizing some banks. This new window is anonymous so, we have no way of really knowing which ones or, to what degree. Most likely, this is what your little chripy bird was speaking about.

www.dailypaul.com/node/34...

A quick google brought up this blog
http://interfluidity.powe...

Nationalizing the Banks

Has anyone heard news on this?... a little bird mentioned that nationalizing the banks is being done quietly behind the scenes...any sources for this?

Given events in recent days,

Given events in recent days, it looks like its happening. What happens when the Fed needs to be bailed out?

I made a long post about

I made a long post about this, but it all comes down to who has the control of the money supply at this time, we the people do not.

Thus they can do what ever they (Feds) want, they can behind the scenes inflate the dollar, crash the dollar, prop it up till they want to take it down etc.

The feds at this point are in cotrol, they can waite for the right time and completely crash the dollar and send most Americans into a panic where they then can do what they want, change the currency to what ever they want. People will fallow as money is their false god.
We the people of the United States of America need to get back that controll.

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second bank failure this year!

i don't think there is any

i don't think there is any question about it.. yes we will see more banks going under... the big ones like citi are already being bailed out... but there is not enough to save them all and the arabs told citi bank the 20 billion we gave you is all were going to give.. so this could get interesting!

great post thanks

great post thanks

Catch 22

The Federal Reserve is working together with central banks around the world to support the dollar for a little while longer, why? Good question, but we do have the Olympics in China this year, which would like to see profits and we have an election this year as well. But it isn't going to be easy, the bankers are going to have to manipulate the markets, just be patient. Asian markets fell drastically today, this would definately generate the sale of gold to cover their loses, but it may also generate many to switch their stocks in and buy gold. I am hoping that both gold and silver will take a nice dip for an oportunity to buy. Just remember that the dollar is made of paper, backed by nothing except the military in Iraq demanding payment for oil in dollars. The question is how long can they control the oil to protect the dollar? Another thing to remember is that if the price of oil was to fall, this would lead to an excess of dollars on the market to drive up prices of other products, so it is what they call a "Catch 22"!

Ron Paul is leaving it up to us folks! So put your energy behind the Revolution. We talk about not wanting government in charge, well Ron Paul is giving us a chance to demonstrate how this is done. Don't look to Ron Paul to do all the work, and just throwing money at the problem isn't going to work either!

Be in Washington on the 21st of June as requested by Ron Paul.

If you can't be a delegate, then volunteer at the convention, you will be able to influence undecided voters.

http://www.gopconvention....

Good Post Thanks :)