Buy an Inverter!
I've been brainstorming on how I can best help people with my electrical knowledge in the event that a catastrophic economic
meltdown happens..
First, this is not doom and gloom. This is fact.
America is not broke, but we are so tied up in
debt that we are losing our country. It's not to another country,
but to a system. An Empire of people who worship money. And
then there are people who worship the people who worship money.
And then there are us. So here is how I can help. I understand that in the event of a global civil meltdown, which is coming, I can help by suggesting people buy an inverter that plugs into their car. The biggest one you can afford.
And some extension cords.. Why? What if power gets cut off?
As long as you have gas in your car
You can run your furnace. You can run some lights. Battery charger. Refrigerator.
Now, if you are a gas station owner, get a generator. Don't even need a very big one. Just need to be able to pump the gas up out of the ground.
Farmers and gardners and greenhouse owners are going to become the new heros. We will need local food production.
Check the water. I think it's not good. Boil it. But the drugs in the water are an issue. Find a spring in the area if possible.
Just getting prepared for the worst, is probably a good thing right now. Last night, global markets tanked. We are headed for a rough day on Wall Street. It will be a sign of things to come.
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It's true...
...we'd all be better off liberating ourselves from the tryanny of 'energy consumption' and we don't even know it.
Case in point: Last winter we got hit with a snow storm that knocked out the power for 5 days. Here in Western Washington that doesn't happen very often so most people in our area were not at all prepared for this. This first day people joked that we were just 'camping'. The second day people were cold and hungry and the lack of *news* about the power stared to wear on everyone. By the third day people were freaking out. By the fourth day people stuck in the snow, without 4WD, were putting signs in their yards that simply read, "Help". People started to get it together and combine efforts to help each other, supply runs, sharing what all we had, etc. On the evening of the fourth night a neighbor, warming himself by our cozy fire, hot cup of steaming Joe in his hand, said, "I know I was panicking at first but...Screw the P.U.D. (power company)! This is the closest *I* have been to actually LIVING in a long, long time."
The next day the power came back on and I sorta wished it hadn't. :)
My brother-in-law does whole house wind-powered systems in California and he is setting me up right now. I can not WAIT to make the phone call to the power company to say, Unhook me now. It's gonna be fabulous. I never got over Enron (my rates sky-rocketed because of that) and have been sending in my payments in folded up articles about Nikolas Tesla so sticking it to 'em is gonna feel soooo nice. This is a joy I want EVERYONE to experience for themselves. WE DON'T NEED THOSE JERKS! My bro-in law and I want to start a non-profit that gets people off the grid for as little cash outlay as possible. We'd be advisors and designers of homemade systems. I have a dream. :)
Ausra solar panel new technology for FL
Greetings from sunny FL. Thought of this article when reading posts for solar solutions: Don't know why we don't have more solar panels on rooftops here. Seems like a no-brainer.
http://www.palmbeachdaily...
Europe and several other 3rd
Europe and several other 3rd world countries are WAY ahead of the US in solar deployment.
We are spending all of our money invading other countries and committing genocide...
sorry but when your
sorry but when your trillions of dollars indebt.. and the assets you do own are not enough to pay off that debt... YOU ARE BROKE! 500 TRILLION in derivatives.. 60 Trillion in private, state local and federal Debt! if everything were to be sold off.. there is not enough money to pay it off!... Your article is great tho thanks!
Hey one of my favorite books is
Alas, Babylon by Frank, and it has a lot of ideas for something like this, although the story in the book was a town that survived a nuclear war without fallout, and shows how they survived. It isn't a gloom and doom book, but one that shows the human spirit in overcoming.
I just have to comment that
I just have to comment that your post reminds me of how pathetically dependent we humans have become on our modern technology. Our reliance on electricity and fuels, which cannot be generated and refined without complex machinery, is particularly open to mockery.
I hope I'm not hated for saying this, but I sometimes almost wish there would be a total collapse, so we Americans would be forced to rediscover our old frontier hardiness. But even then I think only a small minority would choose the simple path of self-reliance. The majority would spend the bulk of their energy trying to maintain the decaying machinery of their lost future. The days of the wood stove and the icehouse are unthinkably archaic for most people.
I'm also reminded of an old Yul Brynner movie, The Ultimate Warrior, where the most valuable thing -- literally -- was the vegetable seeds that a band of survivors planted on the tops of buildings in post-apocalyptic New York City.
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The Founding Fathers...
encouraged us to be an agrarian society precisely for the reason that it encourages self-reliance which strengthens our self-defense and our ability to withstand crises.
During Katrina there were food, fuel and water shortages for a 500 mile radius because the 18-wheelers had stopped running. The grocery stores emptied in one day and we had miles-long lines at the gas pumps. People were starving and rioting and many elderly died. They called the national guard in to get things under control. This was Laurel, MS about 100 miles from the Coast.
We need LOCAL AGRICULTURE to be strong and resilient as a nation. All nations need it.
Besides, why should we have to pay the fuel charges for toting food stuffs from factory to factory across the nation and also paying for multi-million dollar brand advertising costs and fancy packaging?
Food would be cheaper, healthier and more tasty.
The billions and billions of dollars that are given to the giant food companies should be re-routed to local co-op's to encourage small-scale local farming and gardening(like it used to be).
You are right on man!
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Yep, Jefferson especially
Yep, Jefferson especially hoped for an America populated by "yeoman farmers," like he and Washington were (well, they were more "gentleman farmers," but whatever). But then you had guys like Hamilton, who favored the urban manufacturing industries. You need a healthy mix, really. You can't advance without technology, but technology won't help you remember how to survive. Even our farmers have become heavily reliant on machines. We've painted ourselves into a corner, in a way.
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Well..
... Jefferson's vision was that each farm family would also be about the business of higher learning and technology. Many of the technological advances at the dawn of the 20th century were done in farm shop settings (autos, planes, electronics, etc.).
That's true, I was just
That's true, I was just oversimplifying for effect. Jefferson was much more than a farmer of course. In fact, of all his pursuits, farming was probably the one he was least good at. He could have made a career of any number of his side interests.
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Too bad..
.. the Hamiltonians won out.
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Let's be realistic
One little power inverter plugged into your car's cigarette lighter or power point isn't going to power much more than your portable boom box. Surely not your 'fridge or furnace.
You need a real AC generator that runs on gasoline, like a portable Coleman 5500 watt unit or larger that puts out 220 volts. You can backfeed your power panel with a double pole 220 breaker and run the fridge, heater, sump pump, lights, etc.
NOTE: If you do just please make sure to isolate your power panel by shutting off the main. Otherwise you could kill an innocent an unsuspecting lineman up on the pole.
Put some Sta-Bil in the gas, will last a long time as long as you have some starting fluid handy to fire it up. The gas in my generator was about five years old with Sta-Bil. The gas wouldn't fire up the engine but the starting fluid would, and then the gas burned just fine.
And remember, this is a temporary solution, not a long term thing. I did it just last weekend due to a five hour power outage following freak weather and rain, to keep my basement from flooding.
You can keep a freezer going
You can keep a freezer going with a small inverter. You only need to "charge" it for an hour or so everyday.
You can run BUNCHES of flourescent lights with one. And radios, etc.
Even a small inverter would be VERY handy and very possibly a life-saver
A 3000 watt inverter
is about $500
Being able to accept 12 volt input will be crucial, because eventually wind generators will be able to be built with available materials.
Solar is great too.
A 3000watt inverter can be backfed and run 120v critical items.
As long as you have the current to feed it
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I agree... Except...
Using an AC generator to get gas out of an underground tank is overkill.
Maybe if the station is still conducting business, but if it's been abandoned, a small 12v pump and a pair of bolt cutters is all you'll need. But gasoline doesn't last very long, so hope that the unrest doesn't either. Most metro stations will simply be commandeered by the military. Best to buy a motorcycle with an oversized tank and stash 20 or so gallons somewhere.
Solar powered trickle pumps
Solar powered trickle pumps work really well and are inexpensive but you would have to plan ahead (because of slowness).
People have survived for thousands of years
with only one source of natural resource....that tree in your backyard. Learn proper wood handling techniques, such as identification, chopping, and burning efficiently. OPEC can't control it, the gov't can't tax it, and it's pretty much unlimited.....just learn how to use it.
There were a lot less people
There were a lot less people back then who relied on wood. I'm not sure everyone realizes just how overpopulated the country, but moreso the world is...
wind mills and solar panels.
Also, distillers for water.
Either solar or electric.
Veggie oil fuels...
I run both my Mercedes...and a home generator off waste cooking oil...nobodys gonna make me shiver in the dark...
Now...time to go reload more ammo...
Dave
Teaching Flying...and talking Ron Paul...and Liberty!
The Fed has declared using
The Fed has declared using veggie oils as fuel in your vehicle as illegal. Their logic is that you aren't paying road tax which they claim is unfair to the other subjects of our government.
Use water
And metals, like they put in your bodies to break you into hydrogen.
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghegis Khan
Solar panels make more sense ..
You can throw a few solar panels up on your roof for a fairly low price.
Add battery backup and when the power goes out you will have little problem running the basics.
These days the panels are so heavily subsidised that the government (both state and federal) picks up more than half the cost and with the mandates kicking in to produce more solar energy, the subsidies will grow even greater.
I dont agree with subsidies, but since I am going to be forced to pay for them, than I damn well am going to take advantage of them.
Your inverter idea relies on the need for gasoline, which is a BIG if IMO.
My thinking is that gas supplies will be the first to become erratic.
Look to the carribean for examples of how they will keep us huddled masses in the dark
Aren't solar panels
expensive? If you want to run every appliance in the house including lighting, you might need several 2'x4' solar panels. I'm not sure but I think, it will cost at least $16,000 to run those appliances or at least 3150W. You may inquire in your state if they have cash rebates which could slash this price by 55%. It will include the following: solar panels, inverter, deep cycle lead acid battery for power storage, etc. Power companies may give you cash rebates, too because it turns back your electric meter.
OR
You can get yourself a heavy duty generator. At least this will not beat up your car's engine.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
I have solar power and
most who have it including me rethink their usage of power. You don't use solar for heat related things, like heaters, ranges, hair dryers, curling irons, irons (what's those?), etc. And then you buy the most efficient appliances on the market. My washer uses 1/3 the water, 1/2 the electricity, 1/4 the soap, and works great. And there are refridgerators and freezers that use less than 1/2 the power of the usual. Even my kids don't turn on the TV (for movies, we have no television service) until they look at the little charge controller to see what level the power is at. And we have only a laptop for computer, much less electricity. Also, stereo is car stereo, 12 volt, uses much less electricity. Although most people wouldn't want to do what I do, which is use a treadle sewing machine and a wood cookstove for heat and cooking all winter, there are ways to get around it. Now, someday I hope to get enough solar for the pump for the well, which is generator (whoa, gas is high, and not fair that all that gas is taxed for the roads, and only used for water).Now, I don't use much water in the house, because we have a compost toilet, but we grow a lot of food, and we're in a drought, so we want to make a rainwater collection system.
May I ask what type of woodstove you have?
Does it heat your whole house? Is it really hot in the room it's in? How is cooking on it compared to an electric or gas stove/oven?
whoops, didn't answer your whole question
The heat disperses pretty well, although it is hotter near the woodstove, of course, which is good, as there are some in the family who like it hot, and others who don't. Cooking is a bit different on a woodstove, but it is easy, once you know how to use the fire, There are certain parts of the top that are the hottest, so in order to lower temperature, or raise it, you just move the pan around. My kids learned how to cook on it at 9 and 11, had no problem.
I have a Majestic , and it is the mid size one they made
It is pretty, although the nickel is worn off, and would cost a fortune to replace, but all the working parts are in great shape. I love the thing, and it cooks well, and bakes well, but I lined the oven with fire bricks and that keeps the oven more even. The heat can be diverted from the fire box around the oven, so that keeps the oven fairly even.It has a second outlet for smoke below the main one, which is how this works. If you are looking for one, be sure to find out if yours can do this. I had one that didn't and it didn't bake well at all. Yes it heats the house pretty well, and would heat all winter even on the coldest way below zero days, IF our house was insulated, which it isn't. The fire box is lined with firebrick on one side, and removable 2 inch thick cast iron plates, which make it possible to also use coal, which would DEFINATELY heat our whole house.
Solar power..
.. is currently almost the same price as buying power from the grid but requires a big up-front investment.
Nanosolar Inc has begun commerical production of solar panels that cost 1/10th of the previous generation panels but the first few years of production have been allotted to Google and a huge solar power plant in Germany. The first two manufacturing plants are in California and Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
"Nanosolar was started in 2002 and is headquartered in San Jose, California. The company has received financing from a number of technology investors including Benchmark Capital, MDV, and Larry Page and Sergey Brin, the founders of Google. Nanosolar received the largest amount in a round of Venture Capital technology funding, amongst United States companies during Q2 2006, with 100 million USD of new funding secured[5]. Nanosolar plans to build a large production facility in San Jose and in Germany[6], with an annual capacity of 430 megawatts, enough to roughly triple total American solar cell production, moving the US from third worldwide to second, behind Japan[7]. Nanosolar is also building a panel manufacturing plant in Berlin. Germany is heavily invested in this company as a consequence of government subsidies for solar power.[8] On December 12, 2007 the company announced[9] that it had started solar cell production in its San Jose factory, with its German facility slated to go into operation in the 1st quarter of 2008. On December 18, 2007 the company began shipping their first solar panels for a one-megawatt municipal power plant in Germany.[10]"
That is a good idea no matter what
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How much does installation cost?