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WE CAN WIN : Keep this up extremely important : How we are winning with the delegate process explained in depth.

UPDATED : March 13th 2008

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IMPORTANT : YOU PEOPLE NEED TO IGNORE THE POSTS FROM JHL - SLAPSHOT AND WRELLIM and ONEVOICEOFREASON BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and am well educated in the nomination process. I left the party to support Dr. Ron Paul, and assure you that I know what I am talking about.

The founders set the system up as it is to assure that there would be no false or fraudulent support for a candidate, thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for their candidate.

They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a “beauty contest” but instead win an election based upon merit.

Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they choose to do so.

I am sure from the reports we have received that McCain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs, registered as delegates, to vote for him in the upcoming conventions.

PLEASE, if you doubt my post, research it yourself here : http://www.gop.com/images...

Most of you have heard me say this many times but i am adding this to satisfy the few people out there that have claimed i am LYING to people so let me make this clear for any new readers.

You must obtain a copy of your bylaws in your county and your state to understand all you can do and can't do.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LISTS AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUMS.

Now that Romney and Huckabee are out of the race our job becomes harder as we must continue to obtain every delegate we can to have a shot at this convention in September so call your friends and your old meetup people and get them involved for the brokered convention is become slimmer unless we can control some states and unbind our delegates at the state conventions.

This is an extremely needed read for anyone going to a convention for it will explain the language needed when passing resolutions, objecting and over all how the game is played by the current RNC rules : http://www.robertsrules.o...

If you can’t be a delegate because it is too late to register, you can still help us at the convention.
Use these two links and help us win:
http://www.gopconvention.... & http://msp2008.com/volunt...

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry, as I am going to go into how this all works. So read and then read again, if you need to.

Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind their delegates that are bound by state rules?

Did you know that delegates can actually overturn any previous vote?

Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?

Mass media (MSM) is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so I suggest that you stop getting your info from the MSM.

I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how this functions to become the nominee.

First, stop looking at who wins each state’s popular vote. For most of the states, the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and has no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if one person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to a candidate. So if a candidate like McCain now has 586 HARD DELEGATES but if he doesn't reach 1191, WHICH HE MAY NOT, most of the delegates the state “awarded” him mean nothing. Keep in mind that in most of the states most of the people that represent the 1200 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters, Romney and Huck people.

Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we would have a clear winner if someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This we will try to force a brokered convention – there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work if we all get involved?

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary, that does not mean there are actual people that are appointed a delegate, acting as delegates – these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number – there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents. Obtain a copy of your bylaws to see what you must and can change so you can obtain the advantage when you enter your convention.

View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...

And we have lots of delegates...
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September- - -
- 463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention. Some of those 463 are Ron Paul’s people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please, and McCain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the breakdowns are, just do the math from these numbers or look them up for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...

The bottom line is, less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules at this point considering Huck and Romney are suspended for their delegates will either be released or will vote for them until they become released or our people at some of these state convention vote and succesfully unbind thier delegates.

Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now, you ask? Look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him These delegates are not decided by the popular vote (straw poll) of the people. Since no one will probably have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates, NOT VOTES, but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommitted to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul since they are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the national convention, as there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until then NOT EVEN MCCAIN.

The Republican National Convention will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September, 2008.

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul. Now think about what I just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good doctor? Of course they will, just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE WILL PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES OVER ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST STATES. So yes, they won the straw poll, and we won what counts – which is delegates.

Q: Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
A: NO, THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how the process actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot, NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES, and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states!

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP! ...worrying so much because you did not understand how the election system works and you might have thought we lost, didn't you? I assure you we have not!

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives you a better understanding of how we have been winning, even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING. FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here : http://www3.webng.com/ron...

Dr. Steve Parent

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McCain's current delegate count?

I think I saw on CNN today a bottom-screen banner that showed McCain now has over 1400 delegates (I forget the exact number). Can anyone please confirm that? Is that actual delegates or predicted? I've been named an alternate to my state convention but I'm hesitating as to whether to go or not. I'd still like to go if my Meetup can reach its ChipIn goals.

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"It is not the abuse of power, it is the power to abuse."
- Michael Cloud, Libertarian

Go if you Can

State Conventions are important opportunities to network, get platforms approved, make yourself seen and heard. I realize that depending on your state, you may have significant costs associated with the trip, but if you can make it you should go!!! McCain's "1400" consist of projected delegates and solid delegates alike, and some of those delegates are not bound. Is it likely Dr. Paul will win? No. Is it possible? Yes. More importantly, it's likely that Dr. Paul and his supporters will be able to influence the platforms in various states, and if we stay loud get a real chance to address the RNC.

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Dr. Steve Parent

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We can all say what needs to be done, but who here led by example today?

For Nevadans please contact ed.pearce@kolotv.com

I did.....thanks Steve. Dear Mr. Pearce:

I was wondering if you knew that the GOP had the Peppermill's Tuscany BallRoom for two days, Saturday and Sunday. I contacted several employees and they confirmed the Republican National Convention was happening for two days. Paperwork went out confirming the same thing.

I was wondering if you had been curious as to why the rumor of paying a person $70,000 to organize this event and why Senator Bob Beers did not choose to reconvene on Sunday?
I have noticed that in Texas, Montana, Missouri, and other states they have their state convention set up for two and three days.

Would it not cost a lot more money to reschedule such an event? Does this cost us the taxpayers? Senator Bob Beers has stated that it would have cost a lot more money to keep the stage hands, videographers, etc. What about the cost to the delegates that are representing the people of our state, is this not an enormous burden on them as well? However, I feel that it would cost a lot more for a do-over event. Why were the preceedings not finished?

I thought as a journalist you would be interested to finding some of these things out and reporting them to the public. We the People would like to know.

Thank you for all your forthright reporting for all these years.

Sincerely,

An a American.

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969

To the RON PAUL, NEVADA DELEGATION,

BRAVO!!!

Stay tough.

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a bump for nevada....and montana....and georgia....and indiana... :)

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for a DR. PAUL , CONSTITUTIONAL PRESIDENCY.

I'm originally from Missoula, Montana, born and raised. I wonder if I know any of the republican bigwigs there. Better check it out.

Is this still pertinent

or are we on the next step?

I like this title.

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I found out that often when

I found out that often when one can't get the pertinent GOP by-laws at the state GOP website, they can be found at www.archive.com
Alot of the GOP websites seem to have pulled them down but if they were ever up at all, they can almost always be found at the archive website.

Thank you

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The road to freedom still

The road to freedom still have quite a few bumps!
Let's set our differences aside and work for Freedom!

Freedom Rules!

(Robert's Rules as well and is well worth a study)

WHOOO!! HOOOO!!

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Wise words don't take any wooden nickels or paper dollars!

As long as we continue to be a part of this pyramid scheme it will continue to exist. We can take care of ourselves. We don't need a central government to make these decisions for us. All government is local.
grant

bumping for freedom and the

bumping for freedom and the return of states' rights

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It's bumpy on my block.. They're doing construction

It's spring here and that

It's spring here and that trail we call a bumpy road is really BUMPY!

This is a bump for you

Thanks for all you have done. This is a bump to tell Laurie to get focused and quit crying.

I'm bumping your bump. I

I'm bumping your bump. I often wonder about the people who spend time attacking fellow RP supporters...how many delegates have they personally recruited? How many doorbells could have been rung in the time it took to put together the attack wordage? How do they see these attacks as being helpful to the truth and freedom movement of Dr Paul? Personality clashes should not a division make....united we stand and divided we fall.

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both of you! :)

I am bumping all of the above.

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freedom bump....united we

freedom bump....united we stand and divided we fall....Think Unity! Put personality conflicts aside...we have to stand united...period. How many delegates have you personally recruited? How many doorbells have you rang? How many letters have you sent out? How many times have you stood on a street corner for hours in sub-zero temps waving a big Ron Paul sign? We must all stand united, respect our differences, and Get The Message OUT THERE! We have one last chance to save our beloved republic....I beg all of you to do everything you can to spread the message and don't waste time with petty divisions that could destroy our movement's progress. Let's not blow this one chance...please think ahead. Be All You Can Be and Be A Delegate Too!

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"Unity at all costs" is a false pretense. Uniting with people one knows to be putting forth incomplete or false information does nothing for the cause one is allegedly uniting for, except to potentially damage it. That's my opinion. I'm sure I'm not the only one :) My post is merely to present to you that it does not take every instant of every day being away from a computer to make one worthwhile in the movement. Your assumption is that people who are questioning certain actions and what they might mean (though some question by starting new threads, which I think is pretty counterproductive), are less vital to the movement.

I haven't rung any doorbells, because here it's far more efficient to stand on the University Campus right next to Obama's table and hand out slimjims, with nothing but a Ron Paul 2008 sign and a Ron Paul tee to distinguish us. Nothing fancy. Just enthusiasm and people that look like students, not pre-lobbyists. I haven't sent out any letters, because I've sent out emails instead, and have helped broadcast the message since last August or so. I haven't stood on a street corner in sub-zero temps because... well... it doesn't get that cold here, but I have driven my husband around to all the various events and toted more materials than anyone ever should in a little four door lemon of a car. He did go canvas and help with getting the word out in Pittsburgh, New Hampshire (all over the place), Baltimore, and of course all over our state.

We signed up copious delegates and got the word out ahead of our state GOP Convention. This was a challenge since the GOP changed the rules on us rather quickly. It was done so sneakily that I won my delegate seat with 45 votes (the voting was swapped to online... imagine that? by establishment people hmmm almost like they were trying to pull a fast one). At the state convention we did not get the win, but of the 18 "winner take all" delegates awarded that day, Dr. Paul was promised 3 slots.

There have been sign contests, people by at all hours to grab materials from this house, and my husband and I are involved with a number of grassroots efforts. We spent our last dime on gas to get to Super Tuesday (and luckily sold a tee shirt so we had money to get home), not eating so we could vote. It is THAT important.

Is this some sort of contest? No. I wanted to take the chance, though, to correct your perception of those of us who are merely *questioning* what's going on here, and lamenting the fact that instead of tips (which this post is, even though I disagree with some of it factually and in spirit) the board is filling up with pro-Parent/anti-Parent threads.

You have no idea the sigh I let out the other day when this guy came up in a conversation with someone who wanted to "sign up to be a delegate" for WV and was asking for help so he could participate in the "Dr. Steve strategy" (his words). This person was dismayed when they realized that a) we had already had our Convention to allocate the first 18 delegates, and b) our voting for the other 9 electable delegates has already begun. The last 3 delegates we send are "GOP Insiders" (the Republican "super delegates" as it were). It's spilling over into reality, and I know the man says "read your state's rules" but he says "become a delegate" 100 times more. That phonecall was not the only one of its kind.

Anyhow, long story summarized: Not everyone who questions something has an agenda beyond the truth, nor is someone who takes five seconds to compose a post somehow not a valid supporter. Perhaps lumping together all "those people" who disagree with a portion of SGP's posts and an awful lot of his methods is a bad idea. I know Dr. Paul tends to think putting people into neat little classes isn't so smart ;)

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Robert's Rules of Order. Learn it. Know it.
WWW.ROBERTSRULES.ORG

Print

a copy & keep with you at all times.

Thanks,,

but I prefer to look up on the gop site and get the full kit and kaboodle. :)
Your link shows just a summary and since we are new it would be good to read the whole thing.

A summary helps... however...

http://www.rulesonline.co...

Is the full kit-and-kaboodle.

Which is why some prefer the summary to start... and it's rare to find anyone who has actually read the full version.

Thank you for the site. :)

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Thanks,,

but I prefer to look up on the gop site and get the full kit and kaboodle. :)
Your link shows just a summary and since we are new it would be good to read the whole thing.

Work, work, work.

Fight, fight, fight.

Win, Win, Win.

Win, Win, Win.

Work, work, work.

Fight, fight, fight.

Win, Win, Win!

Win, Win, Win!

Nevada Delegates

Tomorrow, don't forget your Robert's Rules of Order Motions Chart:

http://www.ronpaul2008.co...

A must have for all of Dr. Paul's delegates.

Good luck,

Latinos for Ron Paul

Let's do this thing!

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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yet another bump for freedom.....please be a delegate

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Dr. Paul cured my apathy

Let's win.

Hopefully I will become a delegate for Michigan Deadline is two weeks away to become a candidate. I'll be voting for Ron Paul regardless.
grant

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Congressman Ron Paul to Speak at Nevada State Republican Convention

Republican congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul has accepted an invitation from the Nevada Republican Party to be a keynote speaker at the Nevada Republican State Convention on April 26th. The Texas congressman came in second place in the presidential preference poll held on January 19th in Nevada, and continues to enjoy fervent support among many Republicans in the Silver State.

'Dr. Paul's visit to the Nevada Republican Party State Convention reflects Dr. Paul's continued commitment to the presidential race and to the traditional conservative movement in the Republican Party,' said Jennifer Terhune, Nevada communications coordinator for the Ron Paul campaign. 'Throughout this election cycle, Dr. Paul has recognized the important role Nevada can play in the selection of a presidential nominee at the Republican National Convention in September.'

The Nevada Republican Party State Convention will be held on Saturday, April 26th, in the Tuscany Ballroom at the Peppermill Hotel Casino in Reno. Guests and media are welcome to attend.

Latinos for Ron Paul

Liberty or death.

Become a delegate and be a revolutionary willing to fight.

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.We can all say what needs to be done, but who here led by example today?

Please Be A Delegate! If

Please Be A Delegate! If you cannot be a delegate, recruit one!

Go people go.

There are lots of neo-con trolls amougst us.
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