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March 20, 2008

Headed for Olympics? Beware of Big Brother
Olympic Attendees Will Be Bugged and Searched, U.S. State Department Says
By KIRIT RADIA

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The hypocrisy is when we toss out condemnation and threats of boycotts toward a nation, such as China, when we openly trade, support, and take loans from them and yet our own government is involved with the same type of offenses that we criticize the Red Communist for in Tibet. Our government have invaded or intervened in over 200 countries during the last 110 years, sometimes with a brutality that would make the Red Communist Chinese look like amatures. The hypocrisy is when we sanction Red Cuba who has done little to either spread the hideous ideology of Communism, or come close to the attrocities of the Chinese and yet we greet the Chinese with open arms.

I am not casting a crooked finger at anyone on this forum however, I am saying that a call for a boycott does little in terms of international pressure on a country like China. If something effective were to be done it would most likely come in the way of embarrassment by flooding the Chinese Embassy with letters pointing out how shameful the actions their government is taking in Tibet. The Chinese are far more likely to attempt to save face by the outpouring of public opinion being rained down upon their Embassy here in the U.S. then by any attempt at a boycott, which are shown to do little in the way of effective deterrent with a massive economic power such as China, but to throw shame upon their reputation, to castigate their actions in a way that is more direct, more personal from the American People will do more to effect action with the Chinese.

The threat of boycott is viewed as a paper-tiger by the Chinese since they realize that the percentages are on their side, that the vast majority of the American people are so hooked on their cheap products that such an attempt at a boycott wouldn't put a dent in their economy nor would it be anything more than a gnat flying around their head. Hit the Chinese where it hurts...hit them in their face with the idea that we think their actions are now worthly of a modern, civilized nation; that their actions are shameful and deserve to be scorned, then you will see the Chinese take note.

So, if you and the rest of those who are calling for a boycott will instead, call for a letter writing campaign to the Chinese Embassy in Washington that clearly denotes how shameful their government's actions are in our eyes I can tell you it will get much more results then a boycott of commercial ventures in China.

If someone murdered your mother is that ok?
If they murder your neighbor's mother is that ok?
If they murder the mother of your neighbor's neighbor that live in the house in back of your neighbor, is that ok?
To be clear this is a question about a woman that is normal ( as in normal ).
If the mother (which ever one you choose to think about) live across town or in a different state is it ok for her to be murdered?
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Communist China is a "total dictatorship" and the people are now revolting. Look how many have ....."resigned" ..... from the communist party............ Over 34,083,794 People Renounce the CCP Why?? .......
Read the Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party at .. http://en.epochtimes.com/... ..... or watch the Nine Commentaries here: ...... http://ninecommentaries.c... ...................... We are not the only people that want freedom. By electing Ron Paul we would be helping all the people of the world to move faster toward freedom.
We would will be a lot better off to continue the Ron Paul revolution now ....... than to allow our government continue taking away our freedoms until we have none like the Chinese citizens. ...... Boycott?? ...... I do my best to not buy anything made in China, but sometimes I still do because it is the only way to get some products. .... Boycott ?? .... I say yes. If you do not have sympathy for those 34 million Chinese that have quit the communist party then indeed you have not checked out the web sites above. ..... Then check out this China 'Still Executing Prisoners for Organs'
By Martin Croucher
Epoch Times UK Staff
Mar 18, 2008

Former Canadian MP David Kilgour at the Forum in Cambridge. (The Epoch Times)
Former Canadian MP David Kilgour at the Forum in Cambridge. (The Epoch Times)

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The killing of persecuted groups in Chinese military hospitals so that their organs can be harvested for sale may still be continuing, a former politician who investigated the issue said.

Last year a report exposed that China was not only harvesting organs from prisoners on death row but also adherents of the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement, many of whom were detained without trial.

The investigation caused international outrage and prompted assurances from China's transplant industry that foreign visitors would not be sold organs that had come from an executed person.

However report author and former Canadian Secretary of State David Kilgour told a conference at Cambridge University last Tuesday that he believed the tainted organs were still being sold to rich Chinese.

He said: "The party-state in China and its agencies have killed thousands of Falun Gong practitioners, without any form of prior trial, and then sold their vital organs for large sums of money, often to 'organ tourists' from wealthy countries.

"The Chinese Medical Association recently agreed with the World Medical Association that 'organ tourists' can no longer obtain transplants in China.

"Whether this is anything more than public relations, intended to benefit the Olympics, remains to be seen.

"Another concern is that organs seized from Falun Gong practitioners will now go to wealthy Chinese patients instead, with the hideous commerce thus continuing in the same volumes."

The report cites 41,500 unexplained organ transplants from 2000 to 2005 that do not come from convicted executed prisoners, the brain-dead or family donors.

The report suggests that the organs come from adherents of Falun Gong—a non-political spiritual movement whose principles are truthfulness, compassion and tolerance which was banned in 1999.

There are believed to be at least a million practitioners in labor camps across the country. According to U.N. Special Rapporteur Manfred Novak, Falun Gong practitioners are the victims of two-thirds of all torture cases in China.

According to sources inside China, as recently as Christmas Eve last year surgeons at the Second Hospital Affiliated with Harbin Medical University performed a heart transplant operation using organs believed to be from an executed donor. It is not clear whether in this case the "donor" was a Falun Gong practitioner.

Kilgour said: "Human lives across China appear to have no more value to the Party than does the natural environment, work safety or health care. In my judgment, it is the toxic combination of totalitarian governance and 'anything is permitted' capitalism that allows this new form of evil in the world to persist."

Speaking in a conference with report co-author and human rights lawyer David Matas, Kilgour likened the 2008 Beijing Olympics to the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany.

However he said that in many cases conditions in China now are already worse than those in 1936, including what he likens to a campaign of genocide against Falun Gong.

He said: "The propaganda phase, begun in mid-1999 against a then estimated 70-100 million Falun Gong practitioners across China, demonized, vilified and dehumanized them in Party-controlled media. Many Chinese were thus persuaded to think of the community as even somehow less than human. It recalls a similar media campaign unleashed by a regime in Rwanda against its minority Tutsi community prior to the genocide there between April and June, 1994."

The world has more reason to be repulsed by the Chinese government than they ever had against Hitler and his murders.

Jimmy Carter boycotted the 1980 Olympics in Moscow. The USSR and 14 other countries retaliated by boycotting the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. In addition to boycotting the Moscow Olympics, in 1980 Carter also instituted the draft registration and stopped selling grain to the USSR to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan.

Fast forward 28 years. The foreign troops in Afghanistan are now American. The USSR boycotted the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in retaliation. Jimmy Carter should have been awarded the Nobel Blow back award.

Even protesting at the United Nations general assembly would be a better idea than screwing up the Olympics. China will probably respond that Tibet has been affiliated with or part of China off and on since 1300, the relationship of Tibetans to Han Chinese is similar to the relationship of Native Americans to Euro-Americans, and the U. S. is ...ahem... in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Boycotting any Olympics is an affront not only to the host country but to athletes other nations all over the world. There are runners from Kenya, soccer players from Mexico, wrestlers from Bulgaria, and others who have spent their lives preparing of this event. They worked to have the opportunity to be the best in the world - not the best in the world minus some nations having a hissy fit over something that has nothing to do with the Olympics. Maybe China should stop buying treasuries to protest U.S. actions in Iraq or our boycott of the Olympics. Blowback again.

Look at the larger picture. "Other than unnecessarily and unfairly punishing athletes, Olympic boycotts accomplish absolutely nothing." Don't punish the athletes. This is a historical event, originating in 793 B.C., that now belongs to the world, not China. Legend is that even the warring Greeks gave the Olympics a pass. Let's do the same and carry on the battles for human rights at appropriate venues.

Consider that the US did participate at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. Jesse Owens showed up the master race, with Hitler in the audience, by winning four gold metals.

If you don't like China, don't buy its merchandise.

Make a phone call to an advertiser, a sponsor, or the IOC at least once a week, once a day is better. Be sure to hassle some crooked politician while you are dialing!

BOYCOTT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT....LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO IRAQ; HAVE THE CHINESE DONE ANYTHING ANY WORSE THAN OUR INVASION OF A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY? YES, THEY INVADED TIBET AND IT IS HORRIBLE, BUT IT IS NO LESS DESERVING OF CONDEMNATION THEN OUR OWN INVASION, THEN OUR OWN SETTING UP A PUPPET GOVERNMENT TO ACHIEVE AN POLITICAL AND IDEOLOGICAL AGENDA!

WE TRADE WITH COMMUNIST RED CHINA AND YET WE TRY TO STARVE COMMUNIST RED CUBA, YET CUBA HAS DONE NOTHING IN COMPARISON TO RED CHINA IN TERMS OF ATROCITIES AGAINST ITS PEOPLE AND OTHERS.

I THINK NOT! TO HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE....

~~~hypocrisy is not very becoming for a people who claim to stand for Liberty~~~

I think this one would actually work. The 'ChiComs' would HATE to be embarrassed like that.

They do it to their own people too; forced sterilization at 29 if you have a second child, that kind of thing - even if you are apolitical.

It is unfortunate that such a noble athletic and ostensibly non-political event as this has been hijacked for political and nationalistic PR purposes. Just like the 1936 Munich Olympics in Nazi Germany, the prison-masters of bloody "communist" China are staging this as their big debutante party and I say shame on anyone who supports it by advertising or even by watching the sad spectacle.

Someone please post a list of advertisers and not only will I boycott them, I will write letters advising them of same. I mean business.

Americans, the global corporations took our manufacturing jobs overseas and showed their "patriotism" by closing our factories and then lobbying their well-funded puppets in Congress to enact Most-Favored-Nation status to China so that the same goods we once made could be made in China and then imported into the US cheaply. All while their own people are worked like slaves and denied basic human rights such as freedom of speech, press, religion, the right to organize, etc.

While you are at it...BOYCOTT WALMARTand SAM'S! I don't need to list all the reasons for that.

Peace and Freedom

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guys .. I hate that boycott crap... i'm no fan of china and what they are doing.. but our athletes train like crazy for a period of years to go kick the crap out of the chinese! don't boycott them cheer them on ! especially when they go against the chinese! just my feelings!

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one of the worst human rights records on the planet...dark, dark place.

I'm boycotting.

F**k tyranny.

I find it amusing that the MSM bent over backwards reporting the monks protesting in BURMA. We even had a Senate (or House) meeting about it on CSPAN. Now that people are being killed in TIBET they rush to get it off the news.(no shit..NBC nightly news last night spent about 1.5 seconds covering it) Even liberal Huffpost refuses to print about it. I guess we don't want to bite the hand that feeds us. Even if the food is poison.

You do know if we keep boycotting everyone we will starve to death in the dark

The Olympics (in any country) is against my religious beliefs anyway, so that won't be a problem.

Unless the Dali Lama is participating, Tibet is Free, the FED disappears, the IRS Disappears, and Ron Paul is on his way to being President, there will be no Olympics in the Gregory household.