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Ron Paul Slighted by 'Neocon' GOP

By Ralph Z. Hallow | Washington Times
March 19, 2008

Ron Paul says the legions of newcomers his presidential campaign brought to the Republican Party are getting the cold shoulder from John McCain and from the party.

The Texas congressman says neither he nor his supporters have heard from Mr. McCain or Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan since March 4, when the Arizona senator accumulated enough delegates to clinch the party's presidential nomination.

"I don't think they want them," Mr. Paul told The Washington Times, adding that indifference doesn't surprise him because the party's establishment has deserted traditional conservative principles for big government and foreign intervention.

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Does Ron Paul

Does Ron Paul know about the prisons including the one in Alaska that will hold up to 2 million people??? There are over 100 primary and secondary concentration camps across the US. Each houses about 20,000 prisoners. Currently the largest of these facilities is the just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a gigantic mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people. The majority of these facilities have no prisoners but are currently staffed by military personal. The camps all have have railroad facilities, as well as roads, coming and going out of them, to get there. Also quite a few are closed down military bases and are adjacent to airport facilities.

PHOTOS:

FORT DEVENS, MASS.:

This prison has factory facilities and a water reservoir that has been built around the camp. It was constructed in 1999 and the railroad had to lay tracks into the prison from Canada and Boston. Note the extensive use of razor wire with the fences.

MASSACHUSETTS
Camp Edwards / Otis AFB - Cape Cod - This "inactive" base is being
converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown. Ft. Devens
- Active detention facility. More data needed.
http://groups-beta.google...

CAMP GRAYLING, MICHIGAN:

This facility is also very well-known to patriots but we include these photos here, as all photos are, to show that it is not a conspiracy theory. The detention center has markers pointing to it from the highways in the surrounding area.

Subject: Camp Grayling Range 3 area...
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:51:00 +0000
From: John Smith stealth_shadow2005_92@hotmail.com
To: apfn@apfn.org

Camp Grayling Range 3 area...
Webmaster:
The Range 3 area of the Camp Grayling Michigan National Guard military
reservation has long been rumored to be a civilian 'detention' camp
compound, though the documenting photos of this area are quite outdated that gives evidence of its existence. I thought that a fresh look is long overdue.
Since I live somewhat nearby I have undertaken to get some new photos & some fresh insights of this area.
I have recently posted my findings with fresh photos & info on a Geocities
website
http://www.geocities.com/...
http://www.apfn.net/messa...

No Way.

I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as well as the next guy, but this is garbage.
As a life long Alaskan, born in Fairbanks, I can say with complete certainty that there is no facility anywhere in Alaska able to hold 2 million people. Much less one located outside of fairbanks that is staffed by military personnel.

Write The RNC and tell them you want Ron Paul

When the RNC and Mr. Duncan write to me for donations.
I write them back and say that if they have Ron Paul as their candidate I'l be gald to support them as I have Ron Paul. Same for McCain.

"Be the change you see in the world" Gandhi

I would like to see our good

I would like to see our good doctor and McBush in a debate. Sign the petition trying to make this happen:
http://www.ultimateronpau...
and Digg here:
http://digg.com/2008_us_e...

A line from the movie Scarface......

F### John McCain, F### the Neo-con GOP and F### the Republican Party, F### 'em all, we better 'n those cockaroaches!

They don't want us?

Lets get that straight, we don't want them. The party is changing and the garbage will be taken out soon enough!

I JUST RON PAULED HILARY>>>>>>>

You heard me right ! Hilary was in town. Anderson, Indiana. At the wigwam high school. She's going after all the highschool votes because she cant get nothin else. There might have been enough people there to fill the gym, if that.
Anyway, I arrived on the scene, pre her viewing.:) I drove around the school where there wasnt much security. Some fellows in flourescent vest and a few locals. However, after driving once around and analyzing the situation. I proceeded to park a block away and then unloaded my two Ron Paul for president signs. I then walked towards the back of the school where I noticed that there was a entrance with a new suv and one brand new city police vehicle. I decided to head that way carrying my two Ron Paul signs peacefully down the sidewalk.
I walked down the sidewalk a ways across from the main entrance so those going into the gym would see the signs. I received a few comments. However, I heard some say, "who in the world is Ron Paul". Just to hear that was like music to my ears.
After walking past the entrance I arrived to the last intersection which was blocked off. I looked across the way and spotted two nice decked out greyhound busses with a convoy of suvs and city vehicles just pulling in. The only police guarding my side was busy watching the convoy, so I proceeded quietly across the intersection, alone. With my two signs by my side. I walked another twenty or so yards and got with in ten or fiteen yards of the busses. I stepped beside a shrub that was there so not to be recognized. I looked over towards the busses and sure enough there come the cloud of dirt, I mean dust with Mrs. Clinton in the middle. They hurried her into the school back entrance. When she was goin in I stepped out from behind the shrub to proceed over to the nearest sidewalk and hold my signs in the air. I wondered why none of the officers saw me.
After she was in, I walked down the sidewalk towards the blocked road where two local policemen were holding a small group back from coming my direction towards the busses.
A few people saw me walking towards them with my Ron Paul signs in the air. They shouted at the police pointing at me. I wasnt sure what the response was going to be, so I continued walking towards them. I got about three steps from the officer and about ten yards from the small group. I continued walking cassually to the intersection and the police officer nearest me just leaned towards me and gave me a half grin and winked.
I just smiled back and said have a nice day sir and walked around the crowd.
You, guessed it, I knew then that he was a Ron Paul supporter.
After the loudest of the group saw what had just happened, he asked if he could have a Ron Paul sign so he could go past the guards. The police said no way. So, I went over and offered one of my signs to the gentleman shouting. He refused and said some other words I will not repeat. I said , "have a good day" and proceeded to walk back to my vehicle.
That entire hour made my year this far. And it didnt cost me a cent. But the memory will be priceless. Even if I am the last Ron Paul message supporter. I will go on alone.
Do not waiver, continue the fight as peacefully as possible until there is no other options. We will prevail. Oh, I almost forgot, I did get to talk with some about Ron Paul and the freedom message as well as hand out some slim jims, etc.. I talked with one gentleman who was interested in the delegate process.
I'm just a middle aged veteran who is tired of the corruption that has taken over this country. Wake up people !

"Middle aged veteran"

I'm more of an "older" veteran -- Korean War (you remember the bloody "police-action" ordered by the U.N.?) Anyhow, we still have troops there, evidently to protect Japan (will my Toyota warranty be lost if the North Koreans invade Japan?). But back to your adventures at the high school with Hillary... Wonderful! Good for you! Wish I could have been there. We are soon to see McCrazy arrive at Villanova University on April 15th. ... I hope we can give him a jolly welcome -- what with Villanova being Catholic and all that... and with McCain's acceptance of Hagee's endorsement (the R.C. Church being the "Whore of Babylon") But I doubt if the McCain jock supporters will allow that to be even thought of... let alone voiced. Well, whatever, you have my admiration for your sign-in with Hillary!

I concur. I will be at Villanova in spirit. I am going to...

Thanks for the supportive reply "stirner". I do not envy your service in Korea. My uncle served there. He has many stories. He retired a first sargent. One of the better stories was the day he had a run in with celebrity Elvis Presley who thought he didnt have to salute an officer. My uncle corrected that real quick. And for some reason Elvis was moved the following day to another base. Think about that one.
Back to your service in Korea. I understand your thoughts stated in your blog. You have my respect as a fellow veteran for what you must have gone through. I concur with your thoughts on McCain. I will be at Villanova in spirit. I am going to try and catch the March in Washington. Any opportunity to be with fellow patriots for the freedom message against the neocons in washington is a priority with me. I will do my best to be there.
Again, hope all goes well at Villanova.
Good day and the best for you.
We are making an impact !

Ron Paul: We've Been Neo-Conned, House Floor-July 10, 2003

http://www.lewrockwell.co...

We've Been Neo-Conned, by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, July 10, 2003

"The modern-day, limited-government movement has been co-opted. The conservatives have failed in their effort to shrink the size of government. There has not been, nor will there soon be, a conservative revolution in Washington. Political party control of the federal government has changed, but the inexorable growth in the size and scope of government has continued unabated. The liberal arguments for limited government in personal affairs and foreign military adventurism were never seriously considered as part of this revolution.

Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who’s really in charge? If the particular party in power makes little difference, whose policy is it that permits expanded government programs, increased spending, huge deficits, nation building and the pervasive invasion of our privacy, with fewer Fourth Amendment protections than ever before?

Someone is responsible, and it’s important that those of us who love liberty, and resent big-brother government, identify the philosophic supporters who have the most to say about the direction our country is going..."

http://www.lewrockwell.co...

Have any of you felt "educated" by any other candidates?

When reading just one of many Ron Paul's works, I feel like I'm living history; listening to a philosopher/scholar formulating his thoughts, distilling it down to a more presentable practical political application. A man standing alone in front of an approaching tempest, only with his intellect and wits to defend himself, while shouting gently to the masses to wake the hell up, because only you have the power to build a shelter for yourself to survive that tempest. As if to say, I can guide you, but I cannot do it all for you; you're gonna have to dig a ditch to build the foundation, mix and pour the concrete, and drop the first nail into the 2X4.

All I hear when I listen to O-bomb-a, Hitlery, or McNut, is blah, blah, blah. And my main reaction is, so what douchebag scribe of the week working for some thinktank, like Rand Corp, CATO, AEI, PNAC, AIPAC, and/or CFR did he/she come from? Who wrote you that cheesy, propagandist speech?? If anyone thinks O-bomb-a's "speech" given yesterday, in reply to his personal pastor on race, was written by Barack, himself, they are still living in a political la la land.

Reality is, rarely, if EVER, do politicians/legislators WRITE up the bills, themselves, nor their speeches, nor READ "their" OWN bills, or others' bill, before signing it, or voting for it. They are, and for the most part, all throughout our history, have been, puppets.

Honestly, ask yourselves, especially those in sales, marketing, management, or owner of small business, IF you would EVER hire someone like GWB to man the register, let alone mop the floor of your showroom, had he NOT had his father's connection that would benefit your business, in some selfish greedy, profit-driven rationale? Yet, still a vast chunk, more like junk, of Americans still delude that he's in control of our foreign policy boat, as equally as Cheney and his behind the scenes players. Still think Dubya is the sole reason why we're in the MidEast mess?

You really think the Arbusto RUNS anything? He's a puppet, a tool. A stupid one at that. At least with someone of Clinton's intellect, who is a Rhodes Scholar, while a tool, he's a thinking tool. Delusional? Yes. But stupid? No. I do not care whether he told himself he was playing along to get along, while "trying to do the best he can for the American people,"-a total bull. But if you had to strictly argue intellectually based on conventionally accepted political wisdom, which those of us in the RP RƎVO⅃UTION all know now to be utter propaganda, you still have SOME leeway with a smart man like Clinton: that he, in his own way, still tried to carry out his Presidential duties. You know, like murdering and burning innocent babies, women and men, all with the aid of the paramilitary counterterrorist unit like the Delta Force, against the "racist christian compound" in Waco in TX. You know, for your own good, America. After all, we had to kill some of you, to save you. Don't you know? We have to torture some of you so that you'll really think that there's a group of Arab bogeyman out there willing to kill you for Britney Spears and your fat TV watching lazy ass freedom. You have to fear us, so you'll give up your liberties and freedoms. Don't ya know, freedom ain't free?

But the propaganda of "racist christian militia" fear-card wasn't enough to bring-about PatriotAct beta, the OmnibusCrime Bill. So they had to "wait" around till Oklahoma City bombing "happened," for traitors like Feinstein and Schumer, among many others across the Dem-GOP bipartisanry, to implement it. Just like the PNAC-neoCONs "waited" around till 9/11 to implement the PatriotAct enacted policestate in the American Republic.

But with Dubya? Sadly, NO one can make even a remote rationale, while utter MSM propaganda, that he tried to play along with the true Powers that Be, behind the scenes, while surreptitiously carrying out his own agenda to help We the People. He wouldn't even know how to pronounce the word, "surreptitious," let alone what it means. The closest he'd come is "syrup-delicious?"

The Oligarchs must be laughing their asses off at the bottomless pit of stupidity, and depths to which Americans will be willing to be enslaved by utter nonsense, propaganda and insensate (sic) crap. It's perhaps best summarized by the mixed martial artist, and stand up comedian, Joe Rogan. Check out his "Belly of the Beast" (2001?) and Joe Rogan Live in TempeImprov, Tempe,AZ(2006) DVD's. He covers that topic thoroughly. I'm sure those excerpts are on YouTube.

Unfortunately, in the age of TV-nation, often, it seems the only ones visibly awake, at least, visible to the masses in the modern media, to what is really going on around them are comics: Pryor, Carlin, Hicks, Rock, Chappelle, and now Rogan. As Hicks says, "it's just a ride."

WIN THE RON PAUL CANDIDACY, just by showing up!!! Heed SGP, and those like him, and their advice on the delegate process. We have all heard of news of success in WA, MO, TX, CO, NV, SD, and many others. IT IS WORKING!!! Become delegates. We NEED him to be the PRESIDENT to steer this ship of State, drop all unConstitutional cargo that's been slowly flooding the ship's compartments.

ONLY YOU HAVE THE POWER to set the agenda, unbind bound delegates. YOU HAVE THE POWER to do it ALL, at your State level, within the GOP. Their rules, set up initially to help themselves. They had their chance to hoodwink the nation with neoCON trash. We're playing by their rules and winning at their own game. How is that in any way subversive?? It is time to take our REPUBLIC back!!!

Keep it up, Ron Paul RƎVO⅃UTION!!!! Become precinct leaders, I see on RonPaul2008.com that number hasn't changed much. But MOST importantly, become delegates, and STAY delegates. Once your new party platform are passed as a majority delegate block, they can still organize AGAINST you to turn it back to neoCON platforms. Stay in it till the end. I believe in Washington state, all it took was more dedicated Ron Paul delegates who stayed from 9am till 11PM, while others left. That's all it took. STAY engaged till the end, as in till the end of September GOP Convention in St. Paul, MN!!!

Remember we're INSPIRED, NOT Hired, like the rest. We have a message worth saving. Others have propaganda to follow. We lead with the truth.

Keep it up!!! WE CAN win. WE WILL WIN!!!

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Because the genie is out of the bottle, and I WANT MY FREEDOM, I WANT IT BACK! I WANT MY REPUBLIC BACK!, more than I WANT SEX!! So say we all!

I AM RON PAUL!! We ARE ALL RON PAUL!!!!!

President RON PAUL: Jan 20, 2009 - Jan 20, 2017
Because, I STILL B E L I E V E!!!!!!!

Neocon = Republican

With the exception of goldwater, Reagan, and a few others including Ron the Republican Party has never been for smaller goverment and less taxes. If you want to be taken seriously...work to grow the Libertarian or the Constitutional Parties. Forget the republican party, they have lost their way...for christ's sake they nominated John McCain...they ARE insane. If you guys want a real revolution get the hell out of the republican party cause it aion't going to happen there. RP had a chance to join the LP ticket and blow this baby up, but now its over and the Washington times is crying about McCain not giving lip service to RP supporters...please spare me. If you want change you are not going to get it gathering like kittens around the republican table waiting for scraps to drop to you..... we have got to take the momentum and go and take back the freedom that is rightfully ours. If you are fired up and ready for change, do not let this opportunity pass you by. Join the Libertarian Party today and join a group that has been fighting for change since before RP ran on our ticket in 1988. True change rarely comes from the inside...it almost always comes from an outside force.

Got to fix the GOP

As long as it is filled with corrupt people, they will continue to keep third parties non-viable. Help clean up the GOP, then we can have fair elections again, including vialbe thrid, fourth, fifth, etc. parties.

Got to agree with that!

Very well put.

Hmm.

In just one convention we managed to get the Alaska GOP platform to be almost entirely a Ron Paul Platform. I have worked the third-party system for more years than I can count. Disappointment at every turn, yet I kept with it for so long. I feel like I saw more victories for my causes in one single State Republican Convention than I saw in 16 years of third-party efforts. Seriously.

I respect third parties and think they are important, and I have put in literally THOUSANDS of hours of back-breaking labor, along with blood, sweat, and tears into third-party campaigns....all to be completely ignored not only by the media, but by our natural allies, and to be not just ignored but mocked by those who should have been on our team.

and that is WHY I am running 3rd Party

(also because I didn't have to pay a filing fee, or get 2500 signatures!!!)

"Ron Paul says the legions of newcomers his presidential campaign brought to the Republican Party are getting the cold shoulder from John McCain and from the party."

You see - I got involved in my local Republican Party when I got the Ron Paul email saying the "Romney Delegates" were "up for grabs" - then, when I found out NOBODY was serious about running for the district I am running for - I got even more fired up!

Then, none of our 'heavy-hitting' delegates showed up at the Republican State Convention in Lansing - and THEN - at the convention - all the Republican candidates demanded we rally around the presumptive nominee John McCain(even though Mrs. Huckabee was there in person to make a speech) - that is what did me in - COMPROMISE

I am running 3rd party - I am going to go up against a $250,000 UAW machine - I need your support - RON PAUL guys have GOT TO GET ELECTED, no matter what party they're running -

George Washington WARNED of the 'spirit of Party' in his farewell address - parties are only a means to put the candidates before the people.

www.
goodmichigangovernment
.com

John E. Eleniewski

Timing

Funny how they actually sit down and ask Dr Paul some real questions AFTER the R's claim McCain has secured the nomination. Im not surprised -but the article made some good points in any event. Just about 10 months too late. C'est la vie I suppose.

Bill of Rights

Ron Paul defends the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Do you know your rights?? http://www.archives.gov/e...

Money Bomb

When is the next money bomb ? Some are saying Jeffersons birthday ?
Anything official ???

The next $$ Bomb is....

April 1st (April Fools Day). Not official, however, how does one define official in this situation? Endorsed by HQ or RP's Campaign staff? I believe April 1st is as good a day as any for the next money bomb. All that's required for a successful money bomb is agreeing on a date and creating awareness of that date. So on that note: The next $$ Money Bomb$$ is April 1st (April Fools Day). So let it be written, so let it be said, so let it be done.

Spam alert

Everyone please flag the above comment as spam.

Also, I'd encourage everyone to boycott this "votenic" website in light of its tactics.