UPDATED 8:00 am Central time march 28 : Resolution to revoke delegates from John Mccain

IndyCindy Says:

April 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
This has nothing to do with the current thread but I wanted to get a “reply” out to Renee who posted the following in the original “Glen Beck” thread that is now archived.
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Renee Says:

March 31st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
There is for sure one state McCain did not qualify to be on the primary ballot for. MCCAIN DID NOT COLLECT ENOUGH SIGNATURES to be on INDIANA’S PRIMARY BALLOT. He was short in the 4th district. However, Todd Rokita, the secretary of state (and mccain endorser) let McCain on the ballot anyway. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE. Us Ron Paul supporters trekked door to door for weeks and weeks collecting signatures and informing the public. Collected extra signatures to be sure they couldn’t pull one over on us, and McCain gets a free pass. Completely ignoring the rules. OUTRAGEOUS
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I am in the district she was talking about so I fired an email to a lady in our county voter registration (and filing) office inquiring about what I had heard and if there was any truth to it. Following is her rather detailed account of what happened.

“Indiana requires presidential candidates to submit 4500 signatures in order to appear on a major party ballot. And there must also be 500 signatures from each of the state’s 9 U. S. House districts. McCain’s petition was upheld on March 12 by the Indiana Election Commission.

But….the Indiana Election Commission members voiced the opinion that the voters should not be deprived of their opportunity to vote for McCain in the primary over meaningless technicalities. This decision has also set a precedent for the future, Indiana will be forced to let other petitions also be submitted in sections, not necessarily all at once.

Hope this answers your question. It may be more information than you really wanted to know!!”

So, now I wonder, how many other places did this possibly happen around the country?

Matt,
Do you know if the RP Campaign was aware of this happening?
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Matt Hawes Says:

April 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm
IndyCindy,

If there’s no record before, now there is! Thanks!

Matt

http://people.ronpaul2008...

Dr Steve can you repost the resolutions list again. The list of things to pass at the caucus

..."due to his prospective acceptance of Federal matching funds"... Was it prospective acceptance, or simply acceptance? I thought (could be way off) that he did accept them by applying for them...? My question centers from this: http://blog.washingtonpos...
"Those who have committed to public financing can spend no more than $54 million on their primary bid.

So has McCain broken the law? The answer is far from simple.

It depends on whether he has, in fact, withdrawn from the public matching program"

Also (again very picky), I believe "federal" should not be capitalized unless you are naming an agency.

Except for my question and a tiny, tiny element, this is SOOOOO PERFECT!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for all your passion, knowledge and TIME invested!

Use the rules.

OR A SIMILAR MAJOR NEWSPAPER... ALONG WITH LIKE A MILLION SIGNATURES(ok, it doesn't have to have that , but still it can)

All you would need to do is find out how much it is to run this , start getting online signatures via a simple website, and set up a chipin ....

THEN let it rolll...............................

WHO uses this and how can or should it be used? Here in PA our elections are on 4-22 - still time!!!!!!

I just called the PA Department of State, Bureau of Elections, and they told me that John McCain had more than enough signatures to put him on the ballot. They assured me that NO ONE gets on the ballot in PA without the 2,000 signatures required for the Presidential election as well as filing fees having been paid.

"Nothing is as it appears; everything is smoke and mirrors"

I'll offer the following revision of the resolution, making the format more typical for resolutions, clearing up some redundancies and infelicities, and revising according to my own preferences. ;-)

RESOLUTION to deny Senator John McCain of Arizona (hereafter, "John McCain") any (STATE) delegate votes at the 2008 county, state, and national Republican Party conventions:

WHEREAS John McCain was placed on the ballot in (STATE) without obtaining the required number of petition signatures, due to his prospective acceptance of Federal matching funds; and

WHEREAS John McCain ostensibly won the 2008 Republican Party primary in (STATE) as a result of being placed on the ballot solely due to his prospective acceptance of Federal matching funds; and

WHEREAS John McCain has willfully withdrawn from the Federal matching funds program, violating the sole condition whereby he qualified to be on the ballot in (STATE); and

WHEREAS John McCain must therefore be deemed ineligible to have been on the ballot for the 2008 Republican Party primary in (STATE), rendering all votes for him null and void; and

WHEREAS John McCain cannot therefore be deemed to have actually won the 2008 Republican Party primary in (STATE), and thus no (STATE) Republican Party delegates can be obligated to vote for John McCain at county, state, and national Republican Party conventions; and

WHEREAS, by participating in the (STATE) Republican Party primary on a fraudulent basis, John Mccain has clearly failed in his obligation to respect and honor both the integrity of the Republican Party in (STATE) and the election laws of (STATE); and

WHEREAS the Republican Party has the responsibilty and obligation to hold any prospective nominee of its party accountable for any violations of the law in any state, at a minimum by refusing to allow such an individual to win its nomination; and

WHEREAS the delegates for the Republican Party have the reponsibility to mantain the integrity of the Republican Party by withholding their votes from any candidate who has violated either the integrity of the Party or the election laws of (STATE); and

WHEREAS it is impossible to determine how votes cast for John McCain in the 2008 (STATE) Republican Party primary would otherwise have been distributed;

BE IT RESOLVED that we the people of the Republican Party of (STATE) hereby release all delegates from any obligation, legal or moral, to vote in convention for John McCain based on his illegitimate participation in the 2008 (STATE) Republican Party primary; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that we the people of the Republican Party of (STATE) enjoin all our delegates to NOT vote in convention for John McCain, and to vote for whichever remaining candidate(s) they believe best uphold(s) the platform and traditions of the Republican Party and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Stripping the politicians of their "superdelegate" status. These could pose a problem later on.

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

For states where McCain did meet the requirements, what do you think about drafting a resolution (if one hasn't already been drafted) seeking to revoke his delegates based on either:

1. McCain exceeding his spending limitation due to his application for matching funds

2. McCain violating other states ballot requirements and therefore not running a legitimate campaign.

or some other reason.

was deleted by the hacker(s) the other day, along with my reply. Today I posted the essence of that reply in the open thread on the future of the movement. My reply, "Reasons why McCain looks doomed," is here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Dr. Parent, I think this is great, and have read the many comments already on this thread. This is TRULY PICKY, but just to add to the punctuation discussion, I think the punctuation after WHEREAS should be a comma, not a semi-colon. A semi-colon is not appropriate in any event--maybe a colon, but I think a comma. Also, BE IT RESOLVED, I believe, can just continue without any comma, semi-colon or anything after it, although you can use a colon or the word "that" (BE IT RESOLVED that...).

Ignore if this is not helpful.

Don't you think the FEC will allow MCcain to withdraw his certification?
Is'nt this the way things work in a corrupt world?

Make sure your Secretary of State's website and the election code indicate that he must "accept" matching funds, not merely "qualify." He qualified, even though he's not taking them, so if that's the language, he's not in trouble. Look for language that says he must agree to spending caps, too.

IMissLiberty

great post Ohio is another large state that he did not get required signatures, there are severalother states as well. these states were posted earlier on the daily poll.

can we find out which states this applies to?
I have googled this but have not had any luck.
Thanks.
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Resolution to BAR(revoke) Senator John McCain of Arizona FROM(of) receiving any delegate votes at the county, state and national convention in the state of (STATE)

There are many many grammar mistakes,

Plus you should read this http://www.fec.gov/press/...

And probably wait for the FEC decision, Since if you do pass this (doubtful) the McCain campaign will have civil recourse if later the FEC rules in his favor, and it is shown that he did not break FEC regulations. .

Further, you will not seem like a serious or thoughtful person to the non ron paul delegates, so you will not have any input on any other issue after this resolution is presented. So, I sugget that at least the delegates do a head count before the meeting, and only present this resolution IF they are certain they have a majority.

This is some fine work, Dr. Parent. You are an invaluable asset to this movement. Thanks for all you do.
www.paulforronpaul.com

I hope you have great success with this.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

God bless you all for what you are doing !!! Glad you're all on our team !

You're title's confusing: Is it "March to revolution" or is it supposed to be March 28 : revolution"? You may want to clarify.

This is a great instrument for the supporters of the Good Doctor heading into their conventions. We need to know which states this applies to however.

Once again, Thank you Steve.
I am the cheese of South Carolina

This resolution is a great idea. I feel that the state republican parties have an obligation to pass such a resolution if McCain was on their primary ballot on the basis of federal matching funds without having the required number of petition signatures.

If McCain refuses to play by his own rules (his federal election finance law) or federal laws, then THE PEOPLE should have an obligation to give him no choice.

At this point it seems as if the republican party has a choice to stand by the rule of law or next to a person who continues to violate it. I certainly hope the republican parties of all the involved states choose to stand by the rule of law.

Nothing should be final until we vote on it and we need to have more people see it however if anyone wishes to use it as is by all means proof read it and use it.

Dr. Steve Parent

Ok so is this the final version?

I just figured that some people might cut and paste this, so I wanted to make the necessary amendments for you (there was about 20 of them in total - most of them very minor). Here's the corrected version:
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Resolution to revoke Senator John McCain of Arizona of receiving any delegate votes at the county, state and national convention in the state of (STATE)

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of Arizona has been placed on the ballot in the state of (STATE) without obtaining the required amount of petition signatures with the agreement of accepting Federal matching funds;

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of Arizona has obtained delegates in the state of (STATE) after winning the primary in the state of (STATE) as a result of being placed on the ballot in the state of (STATE) because he qualified to be on the ballot in the state of (STATE) without the required petition signatures under the agreement that he would accept Federal matching funds;

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of of Arizona has willfully withdrawn from accepting Federal matching funds therefore exempting him from being placed on the ballot in the state of (STATE) without the required petition signatures;

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of Arizona has deceived the people in the state of (STATE) to be placed in the ballot on the state of (STATE) under false pretence by claiming to accept Federal matching funds;

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of of Arizona did not qualify to be placed on the ballot in the state of (STATE) as per State election law in the state of (STATE);

Whereas; Senator John Mccain from the state of of Arizona has the obligation to respect and honor the integrity of the Republican party in the state of (STATE);

Whereas; Senator John McCain from the state of of Arizona has the obligation to abide by and respect the election laws as well as every law in the state of (STATE);

Whereas; the Republican party has the responsibilty and obligation to hold any member of its party accountable for any violations of the law in any state;

Whereas; the Republican party will hold anyone in the party accountable for violations of law in any state so as to mantain the integrity of the Republican paty;

Be it Resolved; we the people of the Republican party in the state of (STATE) hereby revoke Senator John McCain from the state of Arizona from receiving all if any delegate votes from the state of (STATE) at the county, state or national convention in the year of 2008.

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