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Secure Our Borders!! by Dr. Paul

"The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

~Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
~Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
~No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
~No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
~End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
~Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods. "www.ronpaul2008.com

And the question I, 4constitution, want to add to this, "If we are truly in a "war on terror and a 'war on drugs" then why has the MSM's chosen GOP and Democratic candidates done nothing to protect and secure OUR borders?" Check out www.usbc.org to send free faxes to congress. .

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The thing about this is

they talk about securing us instead of our borders.

"DREAM ACT"

The "DREAM ACT"

An over 700+ page document to give ILLEGALS scholarships for the entire family to go to college. Just the head of household has to pay a $10,000 fine payable with no penalties or interest in installments over YEARS and in return we give him/her and the entire family a college education.

OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!!!!

Thanks for all the posting, please get

on and send a letter to Congress regarding all of the things they say we are doing to protect our nation, but why are our bordersnot secured, but they want to plaster all legal citizens with a supoosed REAL ID w/a ll our medical records, financial records, etc... available on this card with a tracking device in it. We already have cameras on every corner and in practically every building and parking lot, not to mention the GPS in our phones and cars, we are being tracked, that is not FREEDOM for the one bad apple that is out there to do us wrong, we are paying. No longer FREEDOM because they can cut you off in seconds, if you need this to get a job, etc...they can decide you did something wrong, just like YOUTUBE just recently did with me, offer up no explanation and you are basically SOL!

Good info

to be passed on and then taking some action!!

The borders will be secured when....

I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so i know what i am talking about.

Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fruadulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.

They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.

Any candidate and thier supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.

Every state is different and you should be educated on exactly how your delegate process works and you can do this by obtaining a copy of you bylaws in your county and your state if you are told you do not have bylaws obtain a copy of the party rules for your county and state for this is the first step to victory AFTER YOU BECOME A DELEGATE.

If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here : http://www.gop.com/images...

PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.

If you can be a delegate because it is too late to register you can still help us at the convention.

Use these 2 links and help us win.

http://www.gopconvention....

link 2 : http://msp2008.com/volunt...

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.

I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.

Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?

The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.

I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.

First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.

View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...

And we have lots of delegates.

Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.

- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.

- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :

http://www.gop.com/Images...

Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.

The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?

This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.

Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.

NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...

Dr. Steve Parent

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Social Security say goodbye

the Bush administration should think twice about the U.S.-Mexico Social Security Totalization agreement, which would have the effect of transferring an estimated $207 billion in Social Security assets by 2040 to 1.6 million Mexican workers and dependents.

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Bush already spent your SS....

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Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.

and then

some.

very true

more and more and more....

We are in the largest debt in history of our nation

the Largest Trade Deficit

a war that is at $650 Billion and growing by leaps and bounds

Dems are spending over here and Repubs are spending over there, then they will tell us how horrible it is so we will have no choice to team up with doing the NAU! convince us we are worth nothing and we "have to" do it.

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Right

we are not REALLY in a war AGAINST drugs and terrorists. That is why the powers that be are no unaffraid of them. They know the truth. These two so called 'wars' are actually a propaganda 'war' on the 'people' of the USA to 'believe' that we are in this war on drugs and terrorists. So what they have made us believe is a war against drugs and terrorists is really a war against us, the people, to allow the government to take our rights. It is very, very obvious that they are not fighting drugs and terrorists. What they are fighting is 'getting control of us.'

Furthermore, the government has actually caused the terror and drug problem-they know this and that is why they don't investigate or stop any of it. They aren't worried about our borders. They will decide when we have another terror attack.

That is precisely why

12 tons of Ephedra was sent by us to Mexico. They would like to 'dumb-down' the American citizen. They would like to keep us like sheep with things such as the Departement of Education and getting rid of Homeschooling. That way they can have control over what is being taught and its content.

Have we not learned from history?

Quite frightening, but true...

“Terror and fear are used to achieve complacency and obedience, especially when citizens are deluded into believing they are still a free people. The changes, they are assured, will be minimal, short-lived, and necessary, such as those that occur in times of a declared war. Under these conditions, most citizens believe that once the war is won, the restrictions on their liberties will be reversed. For the most part, however, after a declared war is over, the return to normalcy is never complete. In an undeclared war, without a precise enemy and therefore no precise ending, returning to normalcy can prove illusory“. Ron Paul

Realtime Tracking Illegal Alien Activities Map

http://illegal.globalinci...
I like checking this out, just hover, it click on the icons to see what's going on.
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People worldwide support Dr. Paul too :-)
http://www.pollingmatrix....

save these to my favorites.

Reminds me of the page I had on YouTube that they just deleted like i never existed.....Cannot believe it could happen, but that was on an extremely small scale, just imagine if I paid all my bills online, etc...REAL ID and everything else, they could just treat me as if I never existed.

Join

www.usbc.org and get informed about all these issues. Very important.

Much more info to come

to the RP supporters.

Parkland hospital per snopes.com

A recent patient survey indicated that 70% of women giving birth at Parkland were illegal immigrants. Almost 44 births per day. Medicaid paid 34.5 million. Free prenatal care. I currently pay $872.00 per month for my medical benefits. Is anyone listening??

Senate Amnesty

The Senate Amnesty Could Strain Welfare System Newest Data Shows Latin American Immigrants Make Heavy Use of Welfare WASHINGTON6/6/2007According to the Dept of Homeland Security, 80% of illegal aliens come from Latin America. A new Center for Immigration Studies analysis shows use of welfare by households headed by Mexican & Latin American immigrants is more than double that of native households. Findings:45% of all Latin American immigrants use at least 1 welfare program & 24% use more than 1.

Our borders need to be secured

The War on Terror and War on Drugs are patently ridiculous when you look at how easy it is to enter the US illegally (amongst other reasons).

My liberty-minded home base of thought:

www.ponderthis.net

so true and

I will read what you have posted.

It is insane to think that we have to be searched at our airports, get a chip with the REAL ID, have cameras on practically every street corner, but when it comes to securing the border it is wide open!!

And people are actually voting for Obama, Clinton, and McCain, who say their is a "WAR", but will not vote the way they tout!

Yes, appalling.

Our research staff just uncovered another reason why your petition
is so vital. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is once
again inflating its numbers of the amount of border fence that
has been built. They claim over 300 miles. Reality check:
less than 10 miles of double-layer fencing has been built
since the Secure Fence Act was passed 18 months ago.

It's basically another border fence hoax. See our full report here
of how DHS inflates its numbers to claim over 300 miles of fencing:

http://www.grassfire.net/...

And progress has slowed to a crawl. Since last September, DHS
has only built 6 miles of pedestrian fence and 35 miles of vehicle
barriers. And their "virtual" fence test was a total failure.

So with the "sunset" clause set to go into effect in just nine
months, it is clear that DHS is doing nothing more than playing
games and juggling numbers. Even worse, DHS is counting so-called
"vehicle barriers" for half of its claimed progress. Just one
problem -- illegal aliens can walk right through the vehicle barriers!

numberusa.com

Below is the Numbers USA pledge:
I pledge to oppose amnesty or any other special path to citizenship for the millions of foreign nationals unlawfully present in the United States. As President, I will fully implement enforcement measures that, over time, will lead to the attrition of our illegal immigrant population. I also pledge to make security of our borders a top priority of my administration.
Numbers USA includes 6 points of understanding as to what the pledge means & what it entails:
1. The 12 million illegal aliens now here will have to go home.
2. They will not get any legal status while here that allows them to remain long-term.
3. Once in their home countries, they may apply for re-admittance to the U.S. as immigrants, visitors or temporary workers through normal channels.
4. But they will not receive any special privileges on the basis of their having been in the U.S. illegally, such as being put to the front of a line.
5. There will be no new categories or programs through which they may re-enter.
6. There will not be an expansion of green cards in any existing categories that will speed up their movement to the front of the line.

Does anyone know about the

"Dream ACT"?

Don't tell me there is another law

on the table to control our dreams, too. No, to answer your question in a more serious way, what is it?

Sorry have not been online

The "DREAM ACT"

An over 700+ page document to give ILLEGALS scholarships for the entire family to go to college. Just the head of household has to pay a $10,000 fine payable with no penalties or interest in installments over YEARS and in return we give him/her and the entire family a college education.

OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!!!!

Does anyone know about

the FYO58 Omnibus Bill?

Must know info.

More info in this post to come.