UPDATED!! 03-30-08 The Party is afraid of Ron Paul
Submitted by CM4Ron Paul on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 12:00
Letter sent out a few minutes ago from Texas Senate District 10 Chairman:
SD10 Delegates & Alternates,
Part of my responsibility as SD10 temporary chairman is to keep the delegation informed about any issues pertaining to the convention. Many delegates to this year's district convention have participated before and are used to fairly harmonious and unified conventions. The situation this year may be different.
We have had a large number of Ron Paul campaign organizers become involved in this year’s convention process. On their blogs, some are hoping to send enough of their own members to the state convention to:
1. Change the state rules to allow the Texas national delegates to vote for someone other than the winner of the Texas Republican Primary, which would disenfranchise over a million primary voters.
2. Elect national delegates who will vote contrary to how Texas voted.
Many of this year’s new participants have been told that delegates to the national convention are not bound by the results of the popular vote. This is not true. The rules in effect in Texas at the time of the March 4 primary clearly state that our national delegates are required to vote as the voters did. Texas voters went to the polls on March 4 believing that their votes counted. Changing the rules after the election would disenfranchise those voters. This is the kind of activity we expect to see in the Democrat party.
While it sounds farfetched, Ron Paul organizers have successfully taken one third of the Missouri delegation. They are also working hard across the state of Texas to control the delegations of other senate districts and counties.
It is important that you not take your attendance at this year's convention lightly. Our number of delegates is roughly double the number we had last year, so the potential for this attempt to succeed is real. Please make every effort to attend, and plan to stay until the end.
On to victory in November,
Stuart Lane
Temporary Chairman, SD10
RESPONSE FROM RP GRASSROOTS LEADER:
Given the recent statements made by the Temporary Chair of the SD10 convention, I feel it is appropriate that I be allowed to clarify some things on behalf of these new delegates that are causing such a stir.
These statements are unfortunately typical of the tactics we have
encountered while trying to grow the Party and help it be more
responsive to the concerns of grassroots Republicans and Conservative voters. These issues will determine the future of our Party and they demand a fair hearing, not cursory dismissal or directed attempts to squash debate.
First of all, we are not "just" Ron Paul supporters. We are Ron Paul
supporters, Mike Huckabee supporters, Fred Thomspon supporters, Mitt Romney supporters, Tom Tancredo supporters, Duncan Hunter supporters, etc. Yes, most of us support Ron Paul today whether we started with him or not, because he is the one Conservative left in the race. And he *is* still in the race.
For my part, I am a life-long Republican whose first political memory
is watching Ronald Reagan campaign on television and being angry I wasn't old enough to vote for him like my parents. I guess that dates me a bit. I spent most of my school years earning a reputation as a solid conservative who would debate any liberal on any issue, and win. I got my degree in Political Science, Religion/Philosophy, and History from Indiana Wesleyan University, one of the most conservative schools in the country. I studied directly under a professor who mentored under Francis Schaeffer, and from him I learned to revere the words of Augustine, Washington, and Reagan. I married a woman who was active in the pro-life movement by the time she was a teenager, and we moved to Texas because we believe in the principles of Federalism and wanted the state that best supported our values as we raised our family. We have four children and we home school them. I am no Democrat.
It is true that like many in the "Ron Paul camp" I have not had much
involvement with party politics since college, primarily because the
system appeared too compromised to restore. However, I have not been idle. I have taken the conservative message directly to the people I can reach, regardless of their current confused state, and have made them realize that limited government and fiscal conservatism is the only way to maintain a secure, prosperous, virtuous society. I am not alone in this task, and many of us have managed to push forward the Conservative message in ways we would never have imagined. Fault us for this methodology if you must but I believe we have been effective.
Regardless, we are here now. Yes, many of us are here because a US Congressman from Texas has restored our hope that it is possible to stand up for Truth against overwhelming odds and reach the hearts and minds of the people. We are here because we think our party needs us, and we would hope welcomes us. We are here because it is unacceptable that things have degraded to the point they have, and that our party is so fragmented it could conceivably choose John McCain as it's nominee, while working to shut out new grassroots volunteers.
As to the claims that we are here to disenfranchise voters -- we
freely admit we are not satisfied with John McCain as the nominee or any kind of standard bearer of the Republican Party, and we do not think we are alone in this among Tarrant County Republicans. We are not willing to lie down and stop campaigning for truly Conservative candidates regardless of the presumed outcome or assumed futility of our efforts as long as those campaigns still provide the most effective way to move the cause forward. We believe that Ronald Reagan's doctrines of the big tent and party unity do not extend so far across the line between right and left that we can just accept any candidate the liberal media hands us. We believe life is neither so dear, nor peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. We must draw the line somewhere if we are to remain Conservatives worthy of the name, or our party is doomed to the abyss of ineffectual relativism. We would not accept Hillary Clinton as a Republican nominee, and surely we must make a stand before the misapplication of the doctrines of incrementalism lead us there. We are the party of Taft, Goldwater, and Reagan. We are not the party of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, and McCain-Lieberman.
The people have made it clear they will only elect Conservatives
worthy of the name. The resolutions many of you passed in your
precincts to urge an even more Conservative platform make it clear you want real progress, but we will never get it without delegates who stand strong and demand our candidates do not ignore the will of the people.
So yes, we intend to fight McCain all the way until September, and we intend to work with other groups in the party with the same goal.
That having been said, we have been and remain the individuals who have demanded the utmost respect for the rule of law, many would say to a fault. While we have not given up the fight for a Conservative candidate, we have no intention of breaking the law or party rule. We live in a representative system and if we are honored enough to be selected as delegates to the national convention we expect to carry the message of Conservatism forward with all legal means at our disposal, including convincing other delegates on the floor who may not be bound that we must find better ways to stand strong as a party and assert our platform upon our candidates. Even if all we are allowed to do is vote for McCain, we will still make it clear that the party must do better if we want our values and way of life to survive.
Jeremy Blosser
Tarrant County Conservative Restoration Alliance
469-212-7090
SD12 Results
40% of the delegates are RP.
See i am not a nut and this
See i am not a nut and this does and can work we need more people to be delegates in other states before it is too late for in some cases we lost control of the convention by only 6 people think about that for a second only 6 people in one case it was only 1 person
Get busy and get my info on the delegate process everywhere you can think of
link :
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/42901
Dr. Steve Parent
www.buckforchuck.com
www.whokilledtheconstitution.com
www.revolutionbroadcasting.com
Dr. Steve Parent
WED DID IT
Ron Paul supporters win partial victory at GOP conventions
By MIKE LEE
mikelee@star-telegram.com
FORT WORTH -- Ron Paul supporters fought with local Republican leaders Saturday over control of local conventions and may have won the right to push their agenda at the state GOP convention.
Supporters of Paul, a congressman from Surfside who got 4.5 percent of the votes in the presidential primary, tried to overwhelm the senate district-level conventions by sheer numbers. The party regulars, aware that Paul’s supporters won a similar campaign in Missouri, brought in extra troops of their own.
The two largest conventions in Tarrant County were still nominating their delegates at 9 p.m., so it may be days before the full effect is known.
“This is not unique to Dallas-Fort Worth; it’s happening all over the state,” said Stephanie Klick, Tarrant County Republican chairwoman.
Paul’s supporters oppose GOP presidential nominee John McCain and want to push the party toward Paul’s brand of conservatism, including reigning in federal spending, ending the Iraq war and abolishing the federal reserve and other government agencies. Any delegates to the state convention will be required to support McCain, but they could still vote for changes in the state party platform.
Peace broke out early at the Senate District 12 convention.
Convention chairman Tom Quinones worked out a deal to give the Paul camp delegates based on their numbers. Chad Bishop, a Paul delegate, gave a speech seconding Quinones’ nomination, saying the district’s “conservative heritage is not lost on us.”
Quinones said later: “I think the Ron Paul delegates will be well represented on our state delegation list.”
In Senate District 10, Paul supporter Jeremy Blosser challenged longtime Republican organizer Stuart Lane for chairmanship of the convention.
Blosser bristled at Lane’s characterization of Paul’s supporters as “outsiders bent on taking over the party.”
“We are Republicans. I don’t know how you take over something you’re already part of,” he said.
Lane won the election by a 2-to-1 margin, but it took hours to count the votes, and the convention still bogged down with debate over platform changes.
“Did we accomplish something today? We’re here, and we stood up for ourselves,” Blosser said.
Ron Paul supporters win partial victory at GOP conventions
Ron Paul supporters win partial victory at GOP conventions
By MIKE LEEmikelee@star-telegram.com
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FORT WORTH -- Ron Paul supporters fought with local Republican leaders Saturday over control of local conventions and may have won the right to push their agenda at the state GOP convention.
Supporters of Paul, a congressman from Surfside who got 4.5 percent of the votes in the presidential primary, tried to overwhelm the senate district-level conventions by sheer numbers. The party regulars, aware that Paul’s supporters won a similar campaign in Missouri, brought in extra troops of their own.
The two largest conventions in Tarrant County were still nominating their delegates at 9 p.m., so it may be days before the full effect is known.
“This is not unique to Dallas-Fort Worth; it’s happening all over the state,” said Stephanie Klick, Tarrant County Republican chairwoman.
Paul’s supporters oppose GOP presidential nominee John McCain and want to push the party toward Paul’s brand of conservatism, including reigning in federal spending, ending the Iraq war and abolishing the federal reserve and other government agencies. Any delegates to the state convention will be required to support McCain, but they could still vote for changes in the state party platform.
Peace broke out early at the Senate District 12 convention.
Convention chairman Tom Quinones worked out a deal to give the Paul camp delegates based on their numbers. Chad Bishop, a Paul delegate, gave a speech seconding Quinones’ nomination, saying the district’s “conservative heritage is not lost on us.”
Quinones said later: “I think the Ron Paul delegates will be well represented on our state delegation list.”
In Senate District 10, Paul supporter Jeremy Blosser challenged longtime Republican organizer Stuart Lane for chairmanship of the convention.
Blosser bristled at Lane’s characterization of Paul’s supporters as “outsiders bent on taking over the party.”
“We are Republicans. I don’t know how you take over something you’re already part of,” he said.
Lane won the election by a 2-to-1 margin, but it took hours to count the votes, and the convention still bogged down with debate over platform changes.
“Did we accomplish something today? We’re here, and we stood up for ourselves,” Blosser said.
MIKE LEE, 817-390-7539
Now lets thank Mike Lee.
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
As Pizza God Says_Jeremy is THE MAN!
I got to know him during the pre/post strawpoll days in Ft. Worth he was great. I am so glad to see him get recognition for a job well done.
Jeremy, I never gave up as you can see below.
don preston
alternate delegate to Texas State Conv.
Congressional district 30
Senate district 23
This is a sure sign that the
This is a sure sign that the establishment GOP is about to crap their pants.
Saturday Night
BumP
What a Skilled Response
Love the name of the alliance, too.
Elect this man chair.
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
Jeremy
He is the biggest organizer in the DFW area. He has spent nearly every waking hour working on this campaign. We would not be where we are today if it were not for him stepping up to the plate for us.
CM, shame on you, you failed to recognize this in your post:
I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so i know what i am talking about.
Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fruadulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.
Any candidate and thier supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.
Every state is different and you should be educated on exactly how your delegate process works and you can do this by obtaining a copy of you bylaws in your county and your state if you are told you do not have bylaws obtain a copy of the party rules for your county and state for this is the first step to victory AFTER YOU BECOME A DELEGATE.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here : http://www.gop.com/images...
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
If you can be a delegate because it is too late to register you can still help us at the convention.
Use these 2 links and help us win.
http://www.gopconvention....
link 2 : http://msp2008.com/volunt...
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...
Dr. Steve Parent
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Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.
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Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.
fantastic reply!
We aren't doing too poorly for a few nerds sitting in the basement!
I think it is great that so many have become involved. I have learned so much from this forum.
Bravo!
Bravo, Bravo this is wonderful hang in there God Bless. I love Peace, Prosperity and Freedom Ron Paul speaks for me.
Word from Florida
Just went to the District 8 "caucus".
It was more of a voting session by the elite than a caucus. This District's leadership is heavy in support for John McCain, and any bad words about him, or good words about Ron Paul would not be tolerated. Yet of the 12 delegate candidates, 5 were secret Ron Paul supporters.
They took a moment to make sure they were extra chairs for the number of people that showed.
We all took a seat and the basic rules were explained. It didn't matter if you were a Republican, or a voting member of the Executive Committee. If you weren't Committee Chairman, State Committeeman or woman, or someone along those high lines, you couldn't vote. In any case, there were only 4 people who could vote.
Each of the candidates were given a chance to speak about why they should be voted in.
Our congressman, Ric Keller, was not able to make it due to family emergency, but someone spoke in his stead. Our Mayor Richard Crotty, another McCain supporter also spoke. The State Committeewoman, Nancy Patterson (one of the FOUR able to vote) spoke as a candidate as well.
Each of these three seemed a little shocked that they had to speak.
There were one or two others heavily involved in the party, but the rest of the speakers were new to the process, and excited to get the chance to be a delegate.
Guess who was voted in?
The Mayor, our Congressman Ric Keller, and the State Committeewoman. The one or two others heavily involved in the party were alternates.
The basic criteria for getting voted in: 1) Being a long-standing member of the Republican party, 2) being a John McCain supporter who was involved in his campaign, 3) being well known in the inner circles of the party.
Even when you know how things are going to turn out before you go in, it still hurts to see how unfair the process in in real life.
This was one battle that was near impossible to win. Even if we had flooded the place with Paul supporters, the deck was rigged before we even walked in.
I for one am not giving up though. There was constant mention that "even though we aren't excited about McCain" we need to "rally together around the Nominee."
Well, the party is dying. There were two young men that showed up as delegates, and maybe a quarter of those that showed up were under the age of 30.
Sorry for the rant, but if you are in other districts, in other states, DON'T give up. Florida is BOUND to McCain, and it will be near impossible to move this states party towards sensibility. George Bush's family, after all, lives here. Jeb Bush was governor.
Other states have an opportunity. Florida only has 57 of our 114 delegates, so we are crippled as a state.
Good luck out there, and become a delegate and GO TO THE CONVENTION!
Privilege
"If you weren't Committee Chairman, State Committeeman or woman, or someone along those high lines, you couldn't vote."
Ah, but we RP supporters are called "Vandals", eh?
I think the situation is the same in CA, unfortunately...the anointed only may cast the votes.
As i said before FL would be
As i said before FL would be a tough state because they have locked up everything in the corruption they have built over many years but it is ok we do not need FL to win this thing.
For those of you that tried i am proud of you and it is still worth fighting for don't gove up because a delegate here a delegate there could make the difference.
Dr. Steve Parent
www.buckforchuck.com
www.whokilledtheconstitution.com
www.revolutionbroadcasting.com
Dr. Steve Parent
on another note
I'm kinda scratching my head. This was a letter open to republicans in the district, written by a stand in chairman. Meaning the previous chairman either stepped down for unknown reasons or perhaps an ousting? Where is he or she? Just a thought...
Great Reply!
Thanks, Jeremy.
i must say
Very well said Mr Blosser. Certainly my sentiments exactly on why the grossly "presumptive" republican nominee would not only be a bad president, but would further tarnish the republican party. The strategy is by this time well known, and in the open. It is now that we further our efforts and expedite the gameplan. Deadlines are fast approaching and its only a matter of time before we hit that calm period prior to the convention, come this September.
McCain.. Never!
Few weeks ago I received an e-mail from McCain asking for support. I wrote back: Fuck off and Die! Ron Paul is my president and nobody else.
You're Cool.
not.
This from the Daily Dose Blog...
Ron Paul supporters just took over TX Sen. Dist 25
Body: Ron Paul supporters just took over TX Sen.
Dist 25
Body: My husband is a delegate and they just voted out the convention chair and officers with a vote of 110 to 94 in Texas Senate District 25
District 25 of the Texas Senate is a senatorial district that currently serves all of Comal, Guadalupe, Hays and Kendall counties, and portions of Bexar and Travis counties in the U.S. state of Texas. The current Senator from District 25 is Jeff Wentworth.
March 29, 2008
Republicans having busy morning
Turnout was heavy at all three Republican Senate district conventions as supporters of presidential candidate Ron Paul sought to gain some leverage over the grass-roots machinery of the party. Party regulars spent most of Friday trying to rally enough supporters to keep control of the conventions.
At the District 10 convention at Southwest Baptist Theological Seminary, the line of delegates was out the door and across the atrium at Truett Auditorium. A harried party official expected the convention to convene 20 to 30 minutes later than scheduled. “Heavy turnout,” he said.
At District 12, the crowd filled the parking lot of Birchman Baptist Church. Paul’s supporters parked a large trailer with models of the Liberty Bell and the Ten Commandments in one corner.
District 9 had about double the normal number of delegates, but seemed to have few fireworks.
SD11, Precinct 665
We voted a Ron Paul supporter to be our one delegate to the Texas convention, after a little diplomacy and schmoozing some neocons.
Our precinct did our job…
Good luck RP Delegates,
Latinos for Ron Paul
Ron Paul 2012 for Peace
HAHA Still think i am crazy
HAHA Still think i am crazy you naysayers?
Do you see now i am not crazy?
We can win people do you see that now?
Dr. Steve Parent
www.buckforchuck.com
www.whokilledtheconstitution.com
www.revolutionbroadcasting.com
Dr. Steve Parent
Afraid Much, GOP?
Here's this tidbit from the Marshall News Messenger
But today's GOP conventions in Travis County might test support for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, whose presidential candidacy ignited local excitement.
"There's some drama afoot," said Joe Pojman, temporary chairman for the state Senate District 14 Travis County convention. Paul backers "think they're the Vandals and they can storm Rome."
Austin CPA Robert McDonald, a Paul supporter headed to the county's GOP Senate District 25 convention, said "people favorable to the freedom movement" could control that meeting. If Paul-leaning delegates get chosen for the state convention, McDonald said, they could hold elected officials accountable to elements of the party platform emphasizing less intrusive government.
For those who may not know, our own word "vandal" comes to us courtesy of the Teutonic, East Germanic tribe called Vandals, who sacked Rome in (I think) 5th Century A.D...and furthered the fall of the Roman Empire.
Thanks for your kind compliment, Joe Pojman! Storming the gates for Liberty!!
history corrected
Rome fell to the Vandals (Germanic tribes) in 900 AD.
No. actually it was......
around 450 A.D.
I believe it happened rather
I believe it happened rather earlier than that ----- The Vandals invaded/infiltrated the (Western) Roman Empire in the very late 4th and early 5th centuries AD, and sacked Rome itself (via North Africa) in AD 455.
In 900 AD the Roman Empire was gone for centuries
Funny, comparing you with the Vandals they compare themselves with the Romans of 450 AD, in o.w. they admit they are losing their empire.
Dr. Paul heilte meine Apathie
Fellowship of the White Rose
The Democratic-Republic is starting to work again!
Thank you. The Republican party structure is working! Because the representative part of democratic-republic provides the safeguard for voter apathy or ignorance, Ron Paul supporters can discuss and bring discovery in the delegate process, being the voice of what is in the people's best interest.
With our help, the Central Committees will understand that the party by-laws are modeled from the electoral college TO PROTECT the people and the U.S. Constitution. I will give your dialog to my Central Committee chair and add my comments. We have the same need for discussion and discovery in Oregon and likely in every county in America! Stay encouraged everyone and keep plugging on!
Now to God who is able to do exceeding abundantly beyond all we ask or think according to the power that works within us, to Him be the glory. . . Ephesians 3:20-21
Do you see? Everyone who
Do you see? Everyone who said i was nuts and i should be put in a straight jacket what do you think now>? Was i wrong? am i nuts? Do you understand now this is for real and it can be done?
Now get off your couch and become a delegate before it is too late.
Dr. Steve Parent
www.buckforchuck.com
www.whokilledtheconstitution.com
www.revolutionbroadcasting.com
Dr. Steve Parent
God bless you in your efforts
Change comes slowly and with opposition but don't give up. I hope we don't have these kinds of issues here in Arizona.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
if they would only open
if they would only open their eyes they wouldn't see us as outsiders. they would embrace Ron Paul supporters as freedom fighters. not just for our individual freedom, but for all Americans. and not just the kind of freedom where you are constantly told on tv that you are free, but true freedom the way the Founding Fathers wanted it.
No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks
This is very inspiring.
Bump
gigione
This article raises questions
At least, to me it does:
1.What is "a large number"? 20,30, 40%?
2.What have they done? It only mentions what the blogs state but mentions no actual disruptive behavior
3.Aren't delegate numbers finite?
4.If you have double the number of delegates than last year then last year half the seats remained empty,right?
5.How many of the new delegates are Ron Paul supporters?
6.How many of the old delegates are Ron Paul supporters?
7.Are the delegate seats all filled now?
I love your attitude
It's just what the Dr. ordered!
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Libera-me,...Let the truth break what my fears make.
Libera-me,.. from this dark dream to the lifestream!
Leslie (AKA Sam) Phillips
At the end of his reply i half expcted him to say
"You may have started this...but we intend to finish it" like Neo in the Matrix, then put his cool-assed shades on and zip straight up into the sky haha- gave me chills
YES!
We are inside the walls!
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Khan
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghengis Khan
ONWARD
Having worked alongside Jeremy I can say he is the most driven, principled and educated person I have had the pleasure to meet. We here in DFW are very lucky to have him. Its a shame that the Tarrant County GOP is actively working to keep out the very people they need to carry the torch for the party.
Earlier this week I went before the nominations committee and I was asked what the party could do to attract more young people to the party - Does anyone else see the irony in that question in light of Stewies E-mail?
We are hours away from the convention...
oh, it gets even better than that
At a recent convention in WA which I attended as an observer, the fellow who got up to speak on behalf of McCrazy said that even though he wasn't originally a McStain supporter, McLame is the nominee now so it's time to support him -- and (here comes the kicker) we (meaning, the GOP) need to build him a grassroots support network.
Yes, he really said that -- and there were lots of RP supporters there who can testify to it, including DP's own "wolfangel".
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"...we (meaning, the GOP) need to build [McCain] a grassroots support network."
Bwa-ha-ah-aha-hah! Oh, that just cracks me up! Were the RP supporters able to stifle their guffaws, or did they simply break into outright laughter?
actually, nobody said anything that I heard
I was falling off my chair, on the inside. ;-)
Who knows... maybe all the other RP supporters were defensively tuning the guy out to prevent brain rot. (I took one for the team there; fortunately I have IQ points to spare.)
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Speaking of laughing. . .
At my county's convention, a few establishment GOP elected officials got up and gave these lame pro-McCain speeches, and I quote, "We may disagree with McCain, but he's got character." and "I didn't like McCain, but elections are about choices." Later, a pro-McCain resolution was proposed, and the Convention Chairman said, "All in favor?" (some ayes) "All opposed?" He immediately banged his gavel without giving anyone a chance to say no. But, it was such a joke, the whole room howled with laughter!!!
"so the potential for this attempt to succeed is real."
Wow!!!
And who wrote that reply? It's a masterpiece!
Hear Hear
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Hear Hear
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That was an incredible
That was an incredible response!!!
We have to work harder now then we have for the past 9 months (and yes that is as much of a reminder to myself as everyone else).
Moral hazard (by wikipedia) is the prospect that a party insulated from risk may behave differently than it would if it were fully exposed to the risk.
B for TEXAS
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Good luck Delegates,
Latinos for Ron Paul
Ron Paul 2012 for Peace
This guy is a jerk
The million voters he's talking about are already either disenfranchised or completely brainwashed. Why else would they vote for somebody like McCain? 'Oh, I heard he's our guy this year,' or, 'I have to vote for somebody who actually has a chance, don't I?' The establishment has wind of what we are doing and they are freaking out. Good luck, shills, here comes the Revolution!!!!
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
Your reply is inspired.
Your reply is inspired. That should knock the wind out of Mr. Lane. Jeremy, you really need to go to St. Paul in Sept.
Senate District 10, That's my district. Can't Wait
To see the look on Stuart's Face when he sees all the new faces and watch his face wash over with fear and hesitation.
Stuart, don't be such a coward, come join the revolution!
For some reason this old song was playing in my head today though I hadn't heard it in twelve years, its called "Stuart" by The Dead Milkmen -
It's somewhat appropriate I suppose. Here's the lyrics:
You know what, Stuart, I LIKE YOU. You're not like the other
people, here, in the trailer park.
Oh, don't go get me wrong. They're fine people, they're
good Americans. But they're content to sit back, maybe
watch a little Mork and Mindy on channel 57, maybe kick
back a cool, Coors 16-ouncer. They're good, fine people,
Stuart. But they don't know ... what the queers are doing
to the soil!
You know that Jonny Wurster kid, the kid that delivers papers
in the neighborhood. He's a foreign kid. Some of the neighbors
say he smokes crack, but I don't believe it.
Anyway, for his tenth birthday, all he wanted was a Burrow Owl.
Kept bugging his old man. "Dad, get me a burrow owl. I'll never
ask for anything else as long as I live." So the guy
breaks down and buys him a burrow owl.
Anyway, 10:30, the other night, I go out in my yard, and there's
the Wurster kid, looking up in the tree. I say, "What are
you looking for?" He says "I'm looking for my burrow owl."
I say, "Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick. Everybody knows
the burrow owl lives. In a hole. In the ground. Why the hell do you
think they call it a burrow owl, anyway?" Now Stuart, do you
think a kid like that is going to know what the queers are
doing to the soil?
I first became aware of this about ten years ago, the summer
my oldest boy, Bill Jr. died. You know that carnival comes into
town every year? Well this year they came through with a ride
called The Mixer. The man said, "Keep your head, and arms, inside
the Mixer at all times." But Bill Jr, he was a DAAAREDEVIL, just
like his old man. He was leaning out saying "Hey everybody,
Look at me! Look at me!" Pow! He was decapitated! They found
his head over by the snow cone concession.
A few days after that, I open up the mail. And there's a pamphlet
in there. From Pueblo, Colorado, and it's addressed to Bill, Jr.
And it's entitled, "Do you know what the queers are doing to our
soil?"
Now, Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large US city,
there's a big undeground homosexual population. Des Moines, Iowa,
for an example. Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart.
You can't build on it; you can't grow anything in it. The government
says it's due to poor farming. But I know what's really going on,
Stuart. I know it's the queers. They're in it with the aliens.
They're building landing strips for gay Martians, I swear to
God.
You know what, Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other
people, here in this trailer park.
"we'll have our own air
"we'll have our own air crash museum, people come for miles just to see em." :-)