Essential Viewing: The Money Masters

i would not recommend this video.
there are 2 others that are much better:

fiat empire: http://www.dailypaul.com/...
and
money banking and the federal reserve: http://mises.org:88/Fed

, at least as of January when I heard him speak in person. He made the same critique of gold as he does in the film FWIW.

Either way, the Federal Reserve is still the First Bank of Tyranny. I'd be willing to try either a greenback type currency or a precious metal currency, or both. At this point, some of the Mises orthodoxy being demanded here is a bit superfluous given the issue at hand. Transitioning from a greenback system to a competing or silver/gold backed currency works just fine for me.

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I always wondered about gold and with the population expanding whether they could produce enough.

I never really had anyone explain to me the concept of "token."

The tally stick worked in England.

The greenback worked fine.

I understand that the "value" is merely agreed upon. The token does not have to be worth anything. I have been unbrainwashed...yay.

The issue is war. Under a rule of peace there is never a currency "problem."

Just think a country would never got to war as the penalty would be the destruction of their currency and untold suffering of their people.

Talk about a deterrent.

What a f%$ing screw job..huh?

We could, on the internet, create our own currency. The issue would be centralizing the issuance and maintaining the float. Of course the storm troopers would kill us because we live in America.

Isn't it great to be free?

I still love the British guy who posted here. "You guys really are controlled by your government..."

My response..."England isn't even a country anymore! It is part of a f%$ing EU....at least Americans know we are slaves...you guys have been convinced you aren't"

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I believe that this video was sent to every member of Congress--what better day could there be to call and ask if your Congressional representative has viewed this video than on the day when Treasury Secretary Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, (hello?????) will propose even broader power for the unconstitutional Federal Reserve that just used your federal tax dollars and mine to bail out his Wall Street buddies at Bear Stearns?

Tell him or her you're pissed off (say that in the nicest possible way ;) and expect a full explanation of their stance on this critical issue. People, we are in such trouble!!!! We want the Fed abolished!!! Tell them you expect their support of HR 2755, Dr. Paul's bill to abolish the Fed--for what it's worth...:(

Excellent video and required viewing anyone interested in getting a clue.

Where Liberty is, There is my Country - Ben Franklin

At 15:23, you will see a silver coin being turned over, one side with Andrew Jackson, the other side has the "Liberty Lobby"'s crest. Wonder who the Liberty Lobby is? Welcome to the dark, seedy underbelly of the "anti-Fed" movement, who somehow just can't shake their reputations for being, mmm....racist?

From Wikipedia:

"Liberty Lobby was the subject of much criticism from all quarters of the political spectrum. While Liberty Lobby was founded as a conservative political organization, Willis Carto was known to hold strongly antisemitic views, and to be a devotee of the writings of Francis Parker Yockey, who was one of a handful of esoteric post-World War II writers who revered Adolf Hitler. Yockey, writing under the pseudonym of Ulick Varange, wrote a book entitled Imperium: The Philosophy of History and Politics, which Willis Carto adopted as his own guiding ideology.

Many critics, including disgruntled former Carto associates as well as the Anti-Defamation League, have noted that Willis Carto, more than anybody else, was responsible for keeping organized antisemitism alive as a viable political movement during the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, when it was otherwise completely discredited.

Liberty Lobby attempted to promote a public image of being a conservative anti-Communist group, along the lines of the John Birch Society, but while the John Birch Society publicly rejected white supremacy and antisemitism, Liberty Lobby promoted them. "

does get annoying. It's like he can't speak, or make a point without it. It does distract from the content, which is very good.

Check this out and this web site. Its awesome !

Liberty Maven (dot) com

...but I have to say I watched it in pain. Anyone else out there distracted by the poor delivery of the speaker? The constant pointing and flicking of the guy's pen at the camera makes me crazy! I can't watch. Anyone else or is this just my problem? :)

wow....

but I thought we wanted a gold standard? This says it's bad...

I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so i know what i am talking about.

Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fruadulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate.

They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.

Any candidate and thier supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.

Every state is different and you should be educated on exactly how your delegate process works and you can do this by obtaining a copy of you bylaws in your county and your state if you are told you do not have bylaws obtain a copy of the party rules for your county and state for this is the first step to victory AFTER YOU BECOME A DELEGATE.

If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here : http://www.gop.com/images...

PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.

If you can be a delegate because it is too late to register you can still help us at the convention.

Use these 2 links and help us win.

http://www.gopconvention....

link 2 : http://msp2008.com/volunt...

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.

I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.

Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?

The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.

I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.

First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.

View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...

And we have lots of delegates.

Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.

- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.

- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :

http://www.gop.com/Images...

Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.

The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?

This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.

Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.

NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...

Dr. Steve Parent

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Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.

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Totalitarianism is on the rise everywhere because advocates of big government have taken leadership control of the power centers within every society. Power centers are organizations and social groupings – such as political parties, labor unions, church groups, media centers, and professional societies – that hold political power based on their claim to represent their members and on their ability to lead public opinion. It has taken many years for them to achieve this dominance over society, but they have succeeded. It does no good to complain or to theorize about what should be done. As long as advocates of big government hold the power, nothing will change.

The Secret of Money

To become debt free, read The Secret of Money and send it to10 people within the next 24 hours.

Are you in a situation that you don’t have enough money and have too much debt? Most people are. Do you know why? It is because, today, money is debt. All the money in circulation today except coins is made out of debt. If there is no debt, there will be no money. There is more. Money is created only for the principal part of the debt, but not the interest. Therefore, there is always shortage of money and to meet the shortage, new money must be created. In other words, new debt must be created. This is why people are constantly persuaded to go into debt. There is even more. As new debt (new money) is created, the value of the existing money goes down. This discourages people to save and coerces them to spend. Meanwhile, the shortage of money worsens as more money (more debt) is created. In the end, everyone will be in debt. There will be no winner except those who control the system at the top.

You would think this is a bad situation. How did we end up in this situation? Who controls the system? How can we get out of this? To answer these questions, you must, first, understand what money really is.

First of all, money is the certificate of ownership of the economy. The total money supply represents the total ownership of the economy. Money that individuals hold represents the ownership of their shares of the economy. In this way, money can become a store of value. The value of the economy is relatively stable or even grows over time, therefore, money that is the certificate of ownership of the economy can hold its value over time. People can store the value of their labor by exchanging their labor with money. Second, money is a very convenient medium of exchange that facilitates trade. Money, not only holds its value overtime, it is also easily carried and divisible into small units convenient for everyday transactions. Most people are familiar with these properties of money as a store of value and a medium of exchange, but most have forgotten or never realized that money holds these useful properties only because money is the certificate of ownership of the economy. These people never realize the vital importance of who holds the issuing power of money.

Thomas Jefferson warned:
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” -Thomas Jefferson

In 1913, the government finally gave up the power to issue money to a group of wealthy men known as international bankers. The deceptive system called The Federal Reserve Bank System was created. Today, even the government must borrow money from the Federal Reserve.

The president who signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was Woodrow Wilson. A few years later, he wrote: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” -Woodrow Wilson

However, there is good news. The days of the Federal Reserve are numbered. The money issuing power will be again diversified among the people. There will be no more central control of the power to issue money. To do so, the secret of money must be understood. The more important power than the power to issue money is the power of information. TV, Radio, Newspapers and Magazines have already been bought out. They are now in the process of controlling the Internet. We must spread the secret of money while we still have time. Print this out and spread in addition to using the Internet. Meanwhile, we must also defend the free flow of information on the Internet. Continue your own research on these subjects.

grab a hold of yourself. The video is incorrect, do some research instead of taking your info from a 13 year old documentary. only 1/4 of the worlds gold is in the hands of central banks and there is absolutely no proof that the rothchilds have that much gold.

GOLD STANDARD BECAUSE ROTHSCHILDS OWN 2/3 OF THE GOLD ALREADY!!! i HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE TO WATCH THIS AND OTHERS LIKE IT FOR ALONG TIME THANK GOODNESS SOMEONE ELSE POSTED IT BECAUSE I AM A TRUTHER AND WE DONT GET ANY RESPECT WE ARE KOOKS AND CRAZIES BUT I CANT TELL YOU THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT ALL OF THIS BECAUSE OF 911
AND THE ROTHSCHILD WERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT ALSO
FOLLOW THE MONEY AND THE ROTHSCHILDS ARE UNDER EVERY ROCK!!! IM CRAZY BUT YET YOU LOSERS THINK WE ARE STUPID ,THIS IS WHY I NOLONGER CARE ABOUT YOU PEOPLE(RP PEOPLE)AND SEE YOU AS AGENTS I MEAN A GUY WONT EVEN LOOK AT THE PROOF ???DROP DEAD DISINFO AGENTS THE TRUTH CANNOT BE BROKEN NOW OR EVER 911 WILL COME OUT AND THEN ALL YOU PEOPLE WILL SAY YOU WERE TRUTHERS WHEN IN FACT YOU HELPED SUPPRESS THE TRUTH BUY RIDICULING US NOT EVEN LOOKING INTO 1000'S OF HOURS OF RESEARCH,I DONT KNOW WHAT DID HAPPEN BUT I KNOW WHAT DIDNT .ANYONE THAT HELPED COVER IT UP IS AN ACSESSERY AFTER THE FACT AND FULLY COMPLICENT IN THE CONSPIRACY ,HINT QUE BONO=
WHO HAD THE MOST TO GAIN ??GWB/DC LARRY S,BUZZY KRONGAURD ON AND ON

The TTC has got to be stopped now !! I know Texans will fight. The battle ground is in Texas. Go to the rally in Austin April 5th. Get this stopped !!!!

Anyone read G. Edward Griffin's essay on this film?

Go to http://del.icio.us/
search "easyhistory"
search all my saved bookmarks - its have stuff on propaganda, the CIA and petrodollar recycling, alot. Videos and reads

So the return of money to the people would be, no central money issuance and currency competition.

Wouldn't that be a bartering system?

Davy C Rockett

http://www.thelibertypost...
http://screamfreedom.blog...
http://liberty-central.bl...

I don't care what the GD video "advocates." The people who produced it did an effective job of researching, which is how truth is found.

We live in a world of controlled information and rewritten history. For this reason anyone who wants to know the truth must watch this video.

Dr. Paul is not on this thread to represent and back his potential approach, thus, saying he "thinks" this is or that is a waste of time.

In a general sense I have learned this from watching him in interviews.

-Dr. Paul is in favor of ending laws that protect the fed's monopoly on the issuance of currency.

-In other words, he has remarked to Cavuto that he is in favor of "competing currencies." This would be in line with his view on free markets. The market will decide on which currency is king and not Ron Paul, not the government or a video producer. I agree with this basic principle as a metals backed currency is still fraught with issues such as liquidity.

-A key aspect of this discussion is war. All currencies are destroyed by war spending. All governments fall to their creditors as a result of war debts. If you paid attention to the video that is what you learned. A war requires the central government to spend masses of money it does not have to field an army and kill as many 19 year old boys and innocent civilians as it can. All of our current issues with the dollar have to do with debt and war spending. We are ruled by madmen and this has been in place since ancient Rome.

-The video also teaches you that the bankers quickly learned that they could make masses of money on war. Ten minutes of the presentation dwells on the Rothschilds bragging about the obscene profits they made in a few years of war. So you think this technique would be abandoned after Napoleon? You think these f^%ing people are stupid?

-The issuance of currency and the control of the banking system is the seat of power over mankind. You can make it as complex as you want. It doesn't make any difference, it is how you control the world. Without control of the banking system you do not have control of the world. Get on board and figure out a small group of men control the world and have for a long GD time. They have a time tested technique to maintaining this control. Control the GD bank. To establish the banks control of a nation start a f%$ing war and get the nation to borrow money to fight it. Voila! The bank owns the nation.

-As learned in history with the tally stick and the colonial scrip you discover that money is merely an "agreed upon token." We have been brainwashed that gold and silver are the only stores of value. Wrong. In prison, cigarettes a a fantastically successful medium of exchange.

-In a drought water has value and in the dark ages salt was used in trade.

-We agree upon a paper token and once we do this it is established. The issuance of new tokens is managed in some way and it would work. The only way it wouldn't work would be if there was a war. The only way to prevent war is to take control of the world away from the handful of scum that starts them.

Not that complicated really. I'm sure Mises can kick my ass in a debate except, he does not want it to be simple. He needs it to take volumes as all great intellectuals do.

You establish the rule of peace on planet Earth. You agree on a paper token and trade with it. My customers pay me with the token, I pay my suppliers and the taxes with the token and all is well. It takes control of the currency OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE MAD MEN WHO WANT POWER and gives to us folks who want to live and raise our kids and run our businesses. I need some guy from Austria to tell me that?

wouldn't it be like the Colonial Script, with no interest, and bankers wouldn't be in control.

or is the answer, money or currency competition (no monopoly).

Davy C Rockett

http://www.thelibertypost...
http://screamfreedom.blog...
http://liberty-central.bl...

I don't quite understand how a gold standard would work given that gold may be monopolized with the central bankers.

On one side, a gold standard is used to create a limit to money creation. It ensures a fixed amount of money that is circulated. The other part of this, though, is the value of gold. If the value of gold is relatively stable, then the currency will be as well. But if the gold is truly in the hands of the bankers, then they would control the value of gold, and thus still control our currency.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
-Thomas Jefferson

I agree that the key is who owns the issuing power. Who owns gold today? If the same people who own the Fed also own most of the gold, I wonder what good it does us to start a gold standard?

Also, I think that it's not a big deal, today, to say to abolish the Federal Reserve because the days of the Fed are numbered anyway because we are reaching the limit of debt creation, as far as I can see. No debt=No money. This system is near the end as far as I can see, so it's not a big deal to say abolish the Fed.

This film is worth watching.