Why this movement is slowing down...HERE

We are so much smarter than his is -- what would he know about politics?

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We are getting stronger. We are swinging delegates to the crimes of our government daily.

By 5/1 you will see the amount of users on Daily Paul double. The hoards will come. It will double again by 6/1 and again by 7/1, doubling again by 8/1, 9/1, 10/1 and we will be joyous in November.

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The reason why Ron Paul won't run as a third party candidate is because he doesn't want to leave the Republican party. He knows that the only way to play the game is to either be part of the Democrat or Republican party. Yes, it's unfortunate, but that's the case.

He wants his supporters to infiltrate and re-create the Republican party. 2-4-6-8 years down the road, there will be many Ron Paul Republicans both in Congress and Senate... Which is exactly what Ron Paul wants.

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I see no reason for him to make a third party run AGAIN. I've read pages of upon pages of Dr. Paul's writings. I've listened to hours of his speeches. I understand his philosophy and I think his judgment is sound.

What do you people clamoring for a third party run got? Convince me. Let me read and watch whatever you have. It better be good. Third party run, will net him no more then 10 percent. His total power and influence is greater and longer as a Republican.

I basically agree, although if Dr. Paul prefers not to run Third Party, that's his choice. No question that the media momentum (by that I mean alternative media) is fizzling because of the choice not to run Third Party. You may note that Lew Rockwell.com has stopped being an official campaign blog and has returned to business-as-usual columns and blogs attacking Lincoln, the Fed, and so on.

As for all the increasingly frustrated-sounding boosters of the GOP delegate strategy, may I suggest that your PR is lacking? If you really believe in this strategy, perhaps you should discuss it with the official RP campaign and come out with a press release..?

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I found this today, while hunting for Dr. Paul's stand on climate politics:
- In case your favorite newspaper keeps ignoring Ron Paul as a valid candidate who would really make a difference, here is a link to Forbes Trailwatch which will keep you informed in a balanced way regarding the U.S. Presidential pre-election.
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(see also A Word From Ron Paul)

See that was kind of interesting I did not know some of that. Good Discussion.

quite well. Why not support LP candidates (local, state, federal) who spread limited government/maximum freedom message and have been for over 35 years? We would do well to increase the strength and visibility of the LP so voters have real choice in this upcoming election cycle. Dr. Paul can endorse the LP team ( including congressional candidates) and help them get into the debates. There are several outstanding candidates this year and they are all on the same page with Ron Paul. With a strong LP showing in the debates and the upcoming election, the gop will see the handwriting on the wall and survival instincts will kick in necessitating major party reform toward respect for the constitution.

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The Man that conspired to control two political party's in the USA and to control the elections. He wrote a book to share his dream http://unitedelite.net/ho... A little info.
Colonel House envisioned himself as Philip Dru, the man who would conspire to conquer the U.S. by causing a Great Depression, electing a puppet President, then weaken the country to point of Civil War, destroy the Constitution, and finally write a new Constitution with Philip Dru as dictator of a new socialistic state and a world government.

In the book, President Selwyn picks Governor Rockland to become the next President. President Rockland then institute a "New Era" to strengthen the government and he gives "fireside chats". Colonel House also shared aspects of President Selwyn. He uses a “triple reversal” analogy by naming Selwyn as the puppetmaster instead of naming him the puppet.
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Ron Paul has been a real dud as a candidate. RP is politically tone deaf.

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He has said the campaign is "winding down." He said in the WOR Radio interview today that "the campaign is technically over." Some people can't seem to take hint. He's no longer trying to be president.

He never planned it in the first place. When he signed up to run, he intended just to affect the debate, but was surprised that there were so many supporters. Then he expressed his nervousness of actually becoming president and realized there was a "risk he may win," as he said on Leno.

Don't even entertain the thought of a 3rd party run. On the interview today, he said "I don't want to." He doesn't want to go through all the hassle.

The goal now is just to get other libertarian-minded people in government, and educated people about freedom, get government back to its libertarian roots, and try to get Paul a speaking slot at the convention if possible.

The campaign for president is over. The campaign for liberty has just begun.

hey, is this your handywork?

In response to Ron Paul article on Fox Business "Time to Listen to Ron Paul?"

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ONEVOICEOFREASON Says:
March 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
RON PAUL is a Nut and an Isolationist..His policies
would destroy this county and folks would be starving
and dying in the streets if he ever became president

P.S. if you're so obsessed about a third party, either form one, join one or kindly shaddup.

To early to go 3rd party and, most importantly, Dr. Paul has said many times he will not run on a 3rd party ticket. I believe him.

Having said this, I think some of Dr. Paul's remarks concerning the primary process are unfortunate and diminished the enthusiasm of his supporters. Many posters on this forum have spent considerable time analyzing how the delegate voting process really works. Does McCain have the nomination all sewn up? Maybe not. Stranger things have happened in politics....

I totally support your right to get on DP and make your remarks.

How can Ron Paul run for third party when he is running as a Republican?That simply does not make any since.The fact is that it would not be ethically correct.Ron Paul is still in the running make no dought about that.And he cannot even hint that he is running third party otherwise he would be crucified and considered a traitor.Now if a third part wants to draft him there is nothing he can do about that.The fact is that party runs only mean that you are getting your name on the ballot thats it nothing else.So do what Im going to do if he does not win the nomination and write him in.

gone for 2 days, and come back to the same old third party drival. Who is being irresponsble here? Even if he had a easier route to win by your suggestion, which clearly he would not, we are somehow supposed to twist his arm to do something he has stated over and over he has not interest in doing. Who are you referring to that is sitting idly by, and what possibly is your point other than trying to derail our momentum--nothing has slowed up. No wonder the moderator is kicking people off with this propoganda, it is counterproductive to everything we are doing.

In all fairness to this post..the language of this person does not remind me of

onevoiceoftreason.

Just because there was a tactic by the MSM to lessen our cause by mentioning third party candidacy

doesn't mean it is a totally disgraceful idea. Maybe we don't agree but he deserves to speak...and ...didn't Ross Perot do extremely well until he dropped out?

I think the risk is great to lose the congressional seat but after this Paulson financial solution... We need some publicity again...badly.

Any other ideas?

Hmmm, the movement is slowing down?? Pushing third party?? Was previously kicked off Daily Paul?????

Could it be????

Coalcracker = onevoiceofreason???

lol

many good comments here. Paul is doing the right thing. Any and all third party and independent voters can vote for Paul with him running as a republican. A third party run only solidifies John McCain as the official party nominee. That leaves Paul nowhere. And Paul would have to give up his congressional seat to run third party. Given his huge victory for that seat in the primary, that would be unwise to say the least. Paul would in fact get a short blip on the news if he ran third party, but that would only last one day. Not enough to make a big enough impact to win the presidency. I've always admired his foresight and courage. If we all become delegates and make a big enough impact at state and the national convention, change our party platform, even if Paul doesn't win the battle, we will win the war as we will be successful in changing America. And that is the long term goal afterall. A Paul presidency would only be temmporary anyway.

Organize! Join a Meetup! Canvass! Get people to go to their caucuses, and run for delegates. Get people to run for Republican party offices! The Revolution is alive and well -- so join it!

Ron Paul supporters run for Republican party offices in Idaho:
http://www.magicvalley.co...

Ron Paul supporters dominate many Missouri caucuses and get 1/3 of the delegates:
http://stcharlesjournal.s...

Also, some similar good things going on in Texas.

We cannot have Dr. Paul give up his seat in Congress in order to make a failed 3rd party bid for the presidency.

We must be realistic and realize that a 3rd party candidate has little or no chance in our (supposedly) democratic system. Dr. Paul realizes that from his run in 1988 as the Libertarian Party candidate.

If he runs as a 3rd party candidate, he will lose. He will not be on the ballots and he will not get to participate in the debates. This is why he chose to run as a republican.

What happens if he gives up his Congressional seat and runs as a 3rd party candidate and loses???? Then we don't have his voice in Congress at all.

Dr. Paul knows what he is doing. Let him be and stop creating dissent among his supporters. We must follow the man... not the method. Even further... we must follow the revolution... and not the man.

I'm a State and Congressional delegate working on getting to National so I can vote for Ron Paul where it's really going to count. Face it, third party candidates have no chance of becoming president in this country. Getting Ron Paul the republican nomination is our best shot.

I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and am well educated in the nomination process. I left the party to support Dr. Ron Paul, and assure you that I know what I am talking about.

Our founding fathers set the system up as it is to assure that there would be no false or fraudulent support for a candidate, thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for their candidate.

They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a “beauty contest” but instead win an election based upon merit.

Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they choose to do so.
I am sure from the reports we have received that McCain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs, registered as delegates, to vote for him in the upcoming conventions.

PLEASE, if you doubt my post, research it yourself here : http://www.gop.com/images...

PLEASE, EVERYONE, COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LISTS AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUMS.

This is a extremely needed read for anyone going to a convention for it will explain the language needed when passing resolutions, objecting and iover all how the game is played by the current RNC rules : http://www.robertsrules.o...

If you can’t be a delegate because it is too late to register, you can still help us at the convention.
Use these two links and help us win:
http://www.gopconvention.... & http://msp2008.com/volunt...

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry, as I am going to go into how this all works. So read and then read again, if you need to.

Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind their delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn any previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
Mass media (MSM) is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so I suggest that you stop getting your info from the MSM.

I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how this functions to become the nominee.

First, stop looking at who wins each state’s popular vote. For most of the states, the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and has no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if one person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to a candidate. So if a candidate like McCain now has 906 delegates but he doesn't reach 1191, WHICH HE WILL NOT, most of the delegates the state “awarded” him mean nothing. Keep in mind that in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters.

NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we would have a clear winner if someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention – there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work?

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary, that does not mean there are actual people that are appointed a delegate, acting as delegates – these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number – there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents.
View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...

And we have lots of delegates...
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September- - -
- 463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention. Some of those 463 are Ron Paul’s people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please, and McCain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the breakdowns are, just do the math from these numbers or look them up for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...

The bottom line is, less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now, you ask? Look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him These delegates are not decided by the popular vote (straw poll) of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates, NOT VOTES, but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommitted to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul since they are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the national convention, as there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until then.
The Republican National Convention will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September, 2008.

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul. Now think about what I just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good doctor? Of course they will, just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES OVER ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST STATES. So yes, they won the straw poll, and we won what counts – which is delegates.

Q: Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
A: NO, THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how the process actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot, NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES, and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states!

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP! ...worrying so much because you did not understand how the election system works and you might have thought we lost, didn't you? I assure you we have not!

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives you a better understanding of how we have been winning, even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING. FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here : http://www3.webng.com/ron...

Dr. Steve Parent

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