I move that we ban Laurie
She is consistently disrupting every single Steve Parent thread because he represents hope for the Ron Paul movement, not for the stupid reasons she claims.
Why would a Ron Paul supporter be against Steve?
She is a blatant shill and I move that we ban her ISP. Those that agree sound off. If you are a Ron Paul supporter you MUST agree, otherwise you are hurting us all.
Other members that are suspect as they parrot and back up her statements every single time:
MartFuncher
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I move that we stop this thread.
and others with DP names except for Ron Paul of course. :)
"Why would a Ron Paul
"Why would a Ron Paul supporter be against Steve?"
Because his posts are often divisive? Because he has posted attacking Trevor Lyman before in the past? Because not everyone in the movement is slavishly lockstep with the "delegate takeover" strategy, and some favor a Third Party run?
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Boring...
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"Basically I'm in the idea business — whether it's a musical idea or a spoken idea ... If you wind up with a political system that wants to put idea men out of business, then you have worry on your hands."
-- Frank Zappa
Rofl
You guys may as well beat your heads against a wall. Only nature taking it's course will fix this. All of you cannot. Opposites attract. I predict they fall in love and live happily ever after. : ) They fight like husband and wife. I say send them best wishes.
I for one ..
would LOVE to be invited to that wedding!!
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Um...NO??
This idea that one has to agree with every single action, thought or utterance from a particular person is EXACTLY what RP supporters are supposedly against....Gilgamesh--you sound like dubya! "You're either with us or against us"!!!
You know who else you sound like? SGP!!! When SGP called ME to the mat for having the effrontery to suggest that we call for accountability from campaign headquarters. My allegiance to RP was questioned and that's CRAP.
SGP is to be commended for his astounding work at educating people in the delegate process. I think he has done an amazing service to the campaign in that regard. But calling Trevor out with the thinnest of "evidence" isn't right, and those who say so are NOT traitors to the cause. "If you are a Ron Paul supporter you MUST agree, otherwise you are hurting us all."
Get out of the group mentality...PLEASE. Dissent is NOT disloyalty!!!!!!!!!!
well said
I have been highly impressed with the effort SGP has put forward. On the other hand, when he digresses into rants about Trevor and others on DP he loses credibility in my eyes. As I've watched him pick childish fights over the last few weeks, I start to wonder if he really knows what he is talking.
HEAR HEAR!!
"Dissent is not disloyalty." I love it. So wise.
THank you for a much needed reminder
and especially for your reasoned approach- let's stop calling sincere supporters trolls, but still point out errors in logic, even if they come from dedicated people like SGP.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
I agree...
Also, I have no clue who Laurie is or what she has written.... but I agree with your point above.
Moreover, I have written and asked Daily Paul to remove the FLAG feature.
Please join me in asking that that such banning and flagging features be deleted. Let freedom ring.
Treg
Stephanie, excellent post -
Stephanie, excellent post - very well said. I have had the same experiences as you and second everything that you wrote.
Thanks :D
Sometimes it can be scary to stick your neck out around here, huh? SAD.
I haven't posted for a while for that very reason, but enough is enough....
:D
I agree that enough is enough
www.dailypaul.com/node/45...
However, at the detail level, there are conflicting issues as I stated in my "article" above.
Delete/flag posts is censorship, but are there any "community standards" for what shouldn't be posted in the first place (e.g., gossip) and what to do, if someone ignores those "standards"?
Ironically, given the very strong opinions of so many DP posters and the high level of knowledge and information demonstrated in so many different areas (the reason I visit and contribute to DP), I'm very surprised that no one will even participate in a discussion of what "personal responsibility" even means-
That has been my major surprise today- I wasted my time on that "article".
Perhaps your endless tirade
Perhaps your endless tirade against Steve has made people not want to read your posts?
So take personal responsibility for your own actions?
"Endless tirade" takes two (or more)
I did not create a single thread. I was not the initiator/instigator of any of the gossip threads.
Obviously, then, my posts were always *replies* to those of others.
As my "article" at www.dailypaul.com/node/45... states, my actions were specifically based on my own value system and personal integrity.
And I take full personal responsibility for them.
New to the situation
I'm not certain what disputes brought this about, but this may be the worst post i've ever read on here. First off, what right do you claim to have to tell us that we MUST agree to ANYthing, let alone your opinion of the situation based on "if you are a Ron Paul supporter". That sounds more like Bill O'Reilly talk, shutting down opposition by forcing only one resolution. Second of all, though i haven't read many posts by Laurie, i'm certain you do not have the right to silence her views simply because you disagree with them, that's unbelievably unAmerican and counter to all we're fighting for in this revolution. We all have the responsibility to voice our true mind, no matter what it may be, and to LISTEN to those who dissent to our view. Common ground may not be found, but certainly it NEVER will if we silence or ignore that dissent. Again, this is a major battle we face against the government right now, and to see it's ugly face here in the DP saddens me. There are greater battles to fight than against each other, so with all due respect, end this blithering and focus yourself on the real situation at hand, the LOSS OF OUR NATION TO IMPERIALISTS. Lastly, if you truely have issue with Laurie, take the responsibility to discuss it with her personally first, and come to an understanding of each other. This does not require agreement, only understanding. To spout this agregious speak in open forum serves no one and offers nothing to resolution, merely serving to showcase lack of respect or responsibility. I will look into Lauries writings and form my own conclusions, but whatever i see in them, i will not agree to this.
Remember, who is your real opponent? who is really taking your rights? who is really trying to own you as their property? who should we really be banning, and from where? Be honest with yourself and the answers will come. Thank you.
~I will never again accept the lesser of two evils.~
Please add your comments, since no one else has
www.dailypaul.com/node/45...
What is "Taking Personal Responsibility"
It explains a lot of my actions regarding gossip posts with no facts to support them.
There is a very legitimate issue of censorship relating to the flagging encouraged to remove gossip posts just as there is about banning a "member", "community rules of behavior" for any civilization, etc.
Also note that I have posted more than 400 unique informational posts with links on DP.
Regarding personal contact, a major weakness with this DP application software is that if you contact someone, your *e-mail address* is given to that person.
Depending upon how many people have "contacted" the "trolls", that could have been the exact reason that the recent attack on DP was possible. The one(s) everybody told off are the ones who then had everybody's e-mail addresses used to login to DP.
Ban Laurie like MSM has banned RP?
Is Ron Paul banned
www.dailypaul.com/node/45...
Digg has blocked RP supporters.
The MSM comment boards have implemented monitors to limit RP supporters.
Hasn't YouTube also deleted RP videos?
It's kind of hard to get the message out, isn't it.
What is your definition of "Taking Personal Responsibility"?
What is your definition of free speech?
Interesting that I have not received a single reply to this very important post:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
What is "Taking Personal Responsibility"?
Look at this thread of yours in the context of the very legitimate issues I raise.
I'll be curious to see your reply.
Really bad idea
Whatever his qualifications, Parent has been presenting himself as an uber delegate expert and yet he was also claiming until recently that McCain qualified on the ballot in PA via opting for public financing. That information was poppycock. Let those who don't like Parent's ideas continue to speak their mind.
Internet Drama
THIS is truly a sad day now.
I don't know who is a sockpuppet and who is an actual user. I don't care.
I'm not going to flag or decry any users post unless it is obscene or spam,
of which neither SGP's or Laurie's is, whoever annoying the posts are.
Again, this whole drama seems to me to be a bit manufactured, but if indeed this is the result of a compunded series of greivances, then I again call for a peace treaty, because no redress can be found for differences like this, save time, and alas, 100% open communication.
Calling for bans in this situation is a bit akin to calling for bombs and embargoes.
I think you both should treat this shite like any other: pinch it off, wipe your @ss, and get back to work.
Respectfully,
Matt
Walden_Paragon
LMAO, Matt!
Too funny ..
That's a ridiculous idea.
That's a ridiculous idea. Just because somebody disagrees with Steve Parent means they should be banned? Give me a break. So much for tolerance.
What do you mean "we"?
This web site belongs to one person. If he wants to ban her, he can. If he doesn't, then that's his choice, too.
-jcr
I move that we quit this
I move that we quit this fighting...this just keeps important posts off the list. Talk to Manystrom. No, i will NOT flag this post. I dont flag unless its racist, sexist, or otherwise offensive.
I agree with you brightdRRkness
This is getting to be too much and it has nothing to do with helping Ron Paul. We should all get on the same page and drop this bickering. It seems like we belong back in kindergarten and we should stop it fast. Let's act like adults now and forget this childishness.
DO RUN RON!!!!!