
Statism: A Bankrupt Ideology
Submitted by Republicae on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 17:55
"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."--James Madison
Of course, that is exactly what has happened in this country, we have allowed a certain political ideology, composed of members of both the left and the right, to infect it with particular brand of Statism that is little more than a hybrid of Fascism and Socialism.
So, what happened to the Constitutional Republic, why, as Statist claim, didn’t the Constitution remain viable and continue to work if it were such a sublime document as touted by those, like myself, as the ultimate political form for the advancement of society and the individuals who make it up?
What Statist fail, utterly fail to realize or admit, is that this country and its government has fallen to the Statist. Nationalization and Centralization began in earnest during the reign of Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln and his cadre of Radical Republicans, Hamiltonians and Nationalist set the stage for the growth and expansion of the State. After Lincoln, the Reconstruction Act of 1867 began the consolidation of the corrupt State ideology.
With the election of James Garfield, the Statist believed that they had finally buried the Ideals of Jefferson. The Sentinel said it best: ““Garfield’s rule will be the transitory period between State Sovereignty and National Sovereignty. The United States Senate will give way to a National Senate. State Constitutions and the United States Senate are relics of State Sovereignty and implements of treason. Garfield’s Presidency will be the Regency of Stalwartism; after that-REX.”
REX was a particularly interesting word to use; it described the ideal of creating the State Oligarchy, a Nationalist Central Government as the dominating political and social power within this country through the elimination of the Constitutional Republic. Indeed, the State has succeeded to a large degree in creating its all-encompassing political machine.
On July 3, 1881, Mr. Garfield himself stated: “The influence of Jefferson’s Democratic principles is rapidly waning, while the principles of Hamilton are rapidly increasing. Power has been gravitating toward the Central Government.”
These Radical Nationalist, these Hamiltonian Statist wrenched power from the former Constitutional Republic through hook and crook, through blunt force and continued through the 1800s to the present to forcefully wield the Nationalist Brand upon this country, dragging it through periods of interventionism both at home and abroad. The example of just how necessary war is to the Statist can be found in the Presidency of the Nationalist McKinley, who was the first to use the Statist instrument of interventionism, on a massive scale, to accomplish the growth of the State Empire with his “fine little war”. So, for the last 110 years the policy of interventionism has dominated the ideology of the State, it has also proven to be dominated with failure.
If such a doctrine were effective then we would live in and witness a far more peaceful world and have far more security within our own country. But under the guise of self-interest/self-defense, and that is all it is, a guise, interventionism is nothing more than the life-blood of the State. The waste of war is absolutely necessary to the State, for it allows the unquestioned expansion of its power and authority. Peace is the enemy of the State, that fact has always been the case. Peace, unlike war, does not allow the State to function as it pleases; peace inhibits the State from the power of imposition and coercion. The State calls it “foreign policy”, but in reality it is simply a medium to enforce its ideals, its ideology and its attributes on both the foreign and domestic fronts. The State has manipulated, as it always has, the use of the term “defense” simply to justify interventionism and imperialism abroad and a specific social construct at home.
To the State, war is an essential system for its own existence and the stable internal structure of politics by which it can legitimatize its right to rule. Without the existence of an external threat, the war system loses its meaning and the necessity of the Massive State Machine can no longer be validated in the minds of the People.
Peace and Prosperity can never accomplish the goals of servitude; only waste and destruction can make servitude possible on a scale that will suit the needs of the Statists. Peace and Prosperity are necessary to create a system that is anathema to that which The State seeks, Peace and Prosperity creates an atmosphere where the Individual can thrive in Liberty to fulfill the ultimate goal of the Natural Rights of Man.
Another essential ingredient for the Statist to accomplish their goal for the State is the Centralization of the economy. These Statist elements have increased the depth and breadth of the reach of the State; its growth depended on a particular monetary system that has always played an important role in every Statist regime in history that system is Money by Government Decree or Fiat. 1913 saw a huge leap forward for the supporters of the State with the passage of the 16th and 17th Amendments, as well as the formation of the Federal Reserve Act.
For at least the last 75 years, the economy has undergone a complete transformation into one of the most centrally planned economies in the world. Of course, this began much earlier; in fact the Statist began increasing the ideals of Corporatism in the late 1800s. While many call that period one of “laissez-faire”, the fact is the period was not that of a free-market, but one in which big business found a very comfortable and very profitable bed partner with the fledgling Statist government. The big Bankers of the day were held in particular esteem by the Statist and realized their prize with yet another attempt at a “National Bank”, this time it was a complete success for the Statist and yet a continuing disaster for the People of this country.
The problem with the Statist Monetary System is that it, and therefore the entire State Machine, is built upon a system that has an inherent terminal life span. Fortunately, when the Monetary System Collapses under the weight of its irreversible debt, so too will the State itself collapse. Ah, on that day, after duly being tried for their Treason, the Central Bankers and their Statist Hacks will dangle as they piss themselves hanging from the Liberty Tree to the delight of all Constitutionalists.
The Statist reveled in the election and Administration of FDR, for it consolidated the power of the State to a degree that had never been possible prior to that point in history. The State was able, within a few short years, to contrive a massive increase of novel and intrusive programs and agencies to accomplish its goal. Many of those same programs remain albatrosses upon the future well being of this country.
Yes, the New Deal…what didn’t it do? Very little for the common man, but what a jackpot for Statism. FDR and many within his Administration thought highly of Mussolini and the Cooperative System under Italian Fascism. In fact, if you read the papers of both FDR and his advisors, like Rexford Tugwell, and you will find them advocating almost the exact same system as Mussolini, with fascism’s Public Works Projects, Corporatism, organization of trade and industrial groups under direct government supervision. There were those in his Administration who admired Stalin and the Stalinist model of State, thankfully few of those ideals influenced the direction FDR took this country, the Mussolini model was bad enough.
Similar to Mussolini’s tax program, the New Deal was financed by tripling various federal taxes and the creation of taxes on just about everything you can imagine, most of the consumer goods taxed during the New Deal were everyday consumer items used by the common working man. These excise taxes hit the poor and the working class harder than anyone else because it included taxation on things like cigarettes, matches, margarine, fruit juices, telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, dice, electricity, radios, soft drinks, cars, tires, even tires on wheel chairs.
The New Deal was a bad deal for those who had to finance it, mainly the ones it was suppose to help, in fact these taxes exceeded all personal income taxes and corporate taxes until the beginning of WWII and those taxes fell, according to the Treasury Department at the time, “disproportionately on the less affluent.”
While it is true that FDR started many relief programs under the National Industrial Recovery Act (1933), The Agricultural Adjustment Act (1933), National Labor Relations Act (1935), the statistics of the day indicate that those programs fostered a steady unemployment rate of 17%. In fact, these programs forced industries to cut back production and forced wages above what the market could bear and made it very difficult for employers to hire people, especially those who were unskilled. It was estimated that over a half a million African Americans lost their jobs because of the NIRA (1933). Tenant farmers were hit the hardest by the Agricultural Adjustment Act, forcing many off the land and the land owners to leave the fields bare and unproductive. The National Labor Act actually led to violence as workers went on strike as compulsory unionization created mass layoffs. All of these things actually precipitated a second financial crisis in 1938 that almost brought this nation to its knees again.
Of course, we rarely hear of the WPA strikes, we rarely hear about the fact that FDR vastly increased WPA jobs right before he won his second term only to lay off those same 400,000 workers immediately after the election.
If you look at how the New Deal was financed and who financed it you will soon learn that not only didn’t it do what most people think it did, but also it increased the suffering of far more than it helped. The “little man” had far less because of the heavy taxation pressed upon him by the New Deal, less to spend on food, essential items, clothes, shoes, fuel and other necessities of life. Also, something else is overlooked, because the vast majority of funds came from taxation, there was actually little economic stimulation from real business concerns that would have had an effect on the economy.
Also, a fact that few people ever consider when speaking about the New Deal, is that the majority of the funds were siphoned off of and away from of the poorest States, those found in the South. Once again, the South was at the mercy of the North and the same heavy taxation was used once more. Those funds, drained from the South, were pumped into massive projects in the East and the West. It is a strange fact when you begin to look at the political implications of those actions by the Administration of FDR.
Oh, but what about the Tennessee Valley Authority (a government corporation), didn’t it bring electricity to the South? Sure it did and it did so at a very high cost to the people of the area, especially the thousands upon thousands of people expelled from their land, many of whom were very poor sharecroppers who didn’t own the land and received no compensation from the government for robbing them of their lives and livelihoods. Ah, but the State could not be opposed from achieving its goal and its push for modernization of the State Machine.
At the time that the people needed help the most with the cost of goods and services was the very time that they received it the least. They were forced to pay higher than normal prices especially after FDR implemented the Anti-Chain Store Act (1936) and the Retail Price Maintenance Act (1937); these essentially banned the discounting of all goods, especially household goods and food. We rarely hear that the Agricultural Adjustment Administration ordered farmers to destroy crops, kill livestock in order to increase prices, which in turn made if very difficult for the workingman to put food on his family’s table.
Granted, the WPA and the CCC workers did some wonderful things, but the picture that is painted by those up hold the New Deal up as the salvation of this country during the Great Depression never, ever seem to want to reveal the entire story because it is not in their political interest to see such facts and face them while upholding their ideology.
We never hear that FDR feared a massive revolt among the American People or that he considered imposing a dictatorship similar to one of his favor fascist Mr. Mussolini. FDR hated independent organized labor and he looked the other way as “industrial big wigs” used strong-armed tactics, using armed strike-busters and even city police departments to break up many of the violent strikes between 1933 and 1937. Oh yeah, FDR was for the common man all right as long as the common man lined up with FDR’s programs.
The New Deal left out two main sectors of the population: blacks and women. Blacks in particular were excluded from labor laws, the GI Bill, Social Security, educational programs, home ownership programs and anything to do with small businesses. FDR exempted several groups of farm labor and domestic help from all labor protection, unemployment insurance and SSI. FDR also refused to pass or consider legislation that would have desegregated the Armed Force, anti-lynching laws, or abolishing the poll tax.
Read about the shameful Bracero Programs if you want to see the real deal about the New Deal. Basically, it allowed the legalized enslavement of guest workers by big farmers in the Southwest. Don’t forget the Japanese Americans either…nothing like Concentration Camp justice to show the real deal behind FDR and his peculiar form of Statism.
The New Deal did little for over a hundred thousand homeless women and children who were forced to roam the city streets begging for food and it did nothing for almost 4 million unemployed women. If a woman was divorced, or single or widowed, they were hopelessly pushed aside in this marvel called the New Deal. It was not until almost a decade later that women actually was given some assistance under a limited program and then only a small percentage was allowed to work under the WPA leaving almost 3 million unemployed and another 2 million were only allowed part-time work that was barely enough to live on.
At the end of eight years, FDR was frantic about still having over 8 Million men and several Million women unemployed, many homeless and that left only one thing to do: allow, prompt, or prod a crisis to infuse the economy with capital…what better way to do that then a war. Indeed, this technique by the warmongers has been used very successfully before and since, most recently was the use of the Iraq War to pump capital into the economy after 9/11, unfortunately they misjudged the amount of Fiat would need to be borrowed to execute the war, the first war to be completely finance through borrowing.
Concerning SSI, the man who actually coined the term Social Security, Abraham Epstein, cried out against it and he was one of the strongest liberal reform proponents of the time. He said that the SSI bill would “transfers the entire burden…to the backs of the young workers and their employers… Since industry will make every effort to pass on its levy to the consumers, it means that the young employees—in their dual role of workers and consumers—will bear the major cost…No other nation has ever put into operation a plan of this nature without government contributions derived from the higher-income groups…in placing the entire burden of insecurity upon the workers and industry, to the exclusion of the well-to-do in the nation, the present social-security bill violates the most essential modern principles of social insurance.” An example of Statism at its best, I must say.
Today, the poor and the working class are still paying for the New Deal. Corporatism that found its friend during the New Deal now reigns over a massive working class of producers. Workers who labor to receive dollars debased of value, poor who must submit to the authority of the government’s restrictions on the benefits they receive. Today we have a heavily planned economy, thanks primarily to the New Deal that is now suffering under its own weight. The entire system is crumbling, inherently terminal and yet we continue to believe the promises of politicians who have not only benefited from the system, but also have been induced into many of their political opinions solely based upon the monetary system that controls them. When we fail to understand, when we fail to pull back the curtain we can only continue to believe that the “little elite man” pulling the levers behind that curtain is the Great and Powerful OZ.
The major problem with Statists is that they completely buy into their own political superstitions and myths about The State. Statist believe in liberty, but it is not the Liberty of the Individual, but the liberty of the State and it only accepts the individual as long as the interests of the individual coincide with those of the State. The State becomes all to the Statist and the only expression of the individual is within the State, which in order to be totally successful must become all embracing to the point that it a self-perpetuating myth imbued with the ideal of the multiple unity of State Authority. The problem with the myth that the ordinary Statist fail to see is that if you are not in the upper echelon of the State Oligarchy, then you are nothing but a peon, a cog in a system that must demand both creative and intellectual conformity to maintain its control and its ability to coerce through compulsion and fear.
An interesting quote from La Boétie tells the story of how the power of the State or tyranny retains generational control over the population: “It is true that in the beginning men submit under constraint and by force; but those who come after them obey without regret and perform willingly what their predecessors had done because they had to. This is why men born under the yoke and then nourished and reared in slavery are content, without further effort, to live in their native circumstance, unaware of any other state or right, and considering as quite natural the condition into which they are born…the powerful influence of custom is in no respect more compelling than in this, namely, habituation to subjection.”
Today, the people of this country, for the most part, live in a type of ignorant bliss following the dictates of the State, unaware of their own situation as they blindly bask the State’s perpetual servings of political pablum. The electoral process in this country readily fits the needs and fulfills the goals of a Statist System. It is, by any real standard, little more than insipid intellectual fare filled with all the elements of entertainment that is devoid of serious questions demanding serious solutions to the very problems that the State itself has caused over the decades. There is nothing more than a comfortable commonality with the vast majority of candidates presented by the entrenchment political parties, each fulfilling their own part in maintaining the status quo of State ideology.
Again, La Boétie states the need of the State to promote entertaining diversions for the People: “ Plays, farces, spectacles, gladiators, strange beast, medals, pictures, and other such opiates, there were for ancient peoples the bait toward slavery, the price of their liberty, the instruments of tyranny. By these practices and enticements the ancient dictators so successfully lulled their subjects under the yoke, that the stupefied peoples, fascinated by the pastimes and vain pleasures flashed before their eyes, learned subservience as naively, but not so creditably, as little children learn to read by looking at bright picture books.”
Amazing isn’t it? La Boétie knew all the tricks of the Statist trade, even in 1500s. He went on to say: “they never undertake an unjust policy, even one of some importance, without prefacing it with some pretty speech concerning public welfare and common good.” Statist constantly reinforce their ideological propaganda through an almost deliberate mystification and adept misdirection.
It is a doctrine that must rely upon a type of creative and intellectual bankruptcy melded together to benefit the State and only the State. The Statist System is extremely stratified into two very distinct classes made up of those who rule and those who do not question its rule. Statism is the unthinking man’s ideology for it requires the unquestioning dedication to the ideals of the State and the dictates of its leadership. It requires a certain passive obedience that binds the population en masse to surrender their freedom of will, their freedom of action in subordination to the will of the State. There is, after all, a certain poverty of philosophy within the ideology of Statism, this poverty is out of necessity as much as it is inherent in the nature of Statism itself. The best environ for the Statist is one of ignorance among the masses and an unquestioning allegiance to a source of power for guidance and direction.
A quote from Tolstoy on Statist Oligarchy: “The situation of the oppressed should not be compared to the constraint used directly by the stronger on the weaker, or by the greater number on the smaller. Here, indeed it is the minority who oppresses the majority, thanks to a lie established ages ago by clever people, in virtue of which men despoil each other.”
To the Statist, the State becomes the expression of all personality and seeks to make the State an inward standard and rule of conduct for all, it is, in a word a pure dogmatic doctrine that requires adherence through faith, faith in the State and the State alone. It is difficult to understand how so many can fall for such an ideology, to submit and suffer themselves to the authority and power of a few who usually possess no more competence or wisdom than anyone else. Statism usually highlights the incompetence of those who within power more than any other political system, simply because the entire system relies upon and focuses on the leadership of the system. Usually, the leadership of such a system must continue to press into service more and more novel programs, new agencies, more legislation in response to the exponential growth in problematic issues caused by other programs, agencies, and legislations of the State.
The results of this political and social malignancy of Statism is evident as you view the current state of affairs within this government as the Statist Ideology metastasizes throughout our highly centralized and nationalized government with outcroppings of inefficiency, dysfunctional agencies, and waste on a scale that pales any disaster in comparison. For Statist who decry the ideals of the Constitutional Republic, they ignore the fact that for the last century and a half we have not seen a Constitutional Republic operating in this country, we have seen nothing but the steady expansion of the Nationalist ideology of the State. The results of such Statism dominates our daily lives, programs upon programs, agencies heaped upon agencies, codes, legislations, acts and regulations all point to the State as a defunct political system void of anything that can be equated with success and efficiency. Look around, you will see the sum total of 147 years of Statism at its best and it is a model of failure upon failure.
Statism, as it always has been, is an infection, it is parasitic and it can only sustain itself through siphoning off financial, political and social resources from the people they seek to rule. All Statist Ideologies implode upon themselves, they all outgrow their ability to be efficient and functional.
So, to those Statist, take a good look around, look at our country, look at the massive mountain of incoherent legislative and bureaucratic regulations, taxations, fees, licenses, and regulations. Not surprisingly, the Statist always find need for more, they always clamor for more bureaucracy and legislation, in so many instances, the mounts of bureaucratic mumblings are little more contradictions to previous mounts of legislations. The State and its Statist supporters allow such blindness to influence their desires and their actions that they fail to see their failures.
Welcome to the Nationalist State of America!
In Liberty,
Republicae-Seditionist















What's your definition of statism?
As I understand the English language, statism= a system based on the existence of a state.
If one accepts that definition, you're essay is contradictory because Constitutionalism is a form of statism.
Secondly, what are your thoughts on Spooner's assault on the Constitution?
If one accepts the original
If one accepts the original definition of "Fascism" then we could easily declare our current operation of government to be "Fascist".
The definition of Statism, or The State is in the notation of power that is assumed and usurped from legal and enumerated authority and power formulated and expressed in our Constitution. On the contrary, the Constitution is a formulation of a plural government consisting of the governments of the Several States and their respective reflections within and upon the general government or federal. Our form of government was not originally based upon the formation of a National State, nor in a Constitutional sense can it be considered as such. The original formation and construction of our government actually impeded the formation of "The State" or "Statism" in terms of a government seeking to expand power and authority through assumption and usurpation. The decentralization within the structure, along with a complex separation of delegated powers, was the extremely antagonistic to the qualities and potentiality of "Statism". That changed during the 1860s and Statism has steadily increased in both scope and reach.
Lysander Spooner, in his No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority of 1870 was an expression of the growing political philosophy of anarchy that was popular during the latter part of the 1800s and early 1900s. I don't agree with Spooner on several levels and yet I can read his writings, and have, without repulsion or, in fact, the need for revision. I personally believe in the principles of federalism as expressed in the Constitution, additionally however, I also have placed into consideration with those principles, as did the Founders, the Nature of Humanity. Human action tends to contradict the principles of anarchy since it is in the nature of people to form certain allegiances associated with given desires, beliefs, needs and emotions. Such elements within human nature tend to override the potential success of an unstructured social construct based on the lack of community. Since our country was colonized, the formation of colonies itself demonstrates human nature and the requirements of a certain self-regulating order...hence we have the formation of government.
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"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises
Its great but you used too many words.
Can you edit it down to a few key points?
Thanks for the piece Republicae.
Your piece is another resource to shake the entrenchment of statist thinking that has all to easily taken root in my understanding of this country. Of course, it's kind of a lopsided intellectual conflict, given the slide towards statism in our country. In particular, I'm thinking of the impact of our educational institutions and media.
If you have a reference for the James Madison quote at the top, I'd appreciate it. Our courts and the Supreme court in particular, would be well served if they had to write that quote on the chalkboard 100 times :-0. Great quote. It has always amazed and incensed me that the Constitution can be interpreted outside of it's historical context, much less by the supposed brightest legal minds of the land.
As for Thomas Paine and the anarchist line of thinking, I see a central similarity with Marxism, a utopian premise. Although Marxism may be more immediately oppressive, I fear the same from anarchy.
The constitution embodies and ultimate paradox: our individual liberty is ensured through a collective agreement on the codification and protection of those liberties.
As imperfect as they are, the declaration, bill of rights and constitution are mind blowing documents. I'm humbled by the wisdom of our founding fathers and the complex understanding of human and political nature that is reflected in these documents.
Thanks
Thanks
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"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises
I love the Constitution, but.....
It only plants the seed for future devolution into an oligarchy....I don't think Jefferson could have known just how sheepish the American population would become.
I definitely want to see a return to the Constitution so we can possibly move forward into more of a free market society. My ideal I think would be to see the eventual absence of the state, with everything privatized, so that everything is subject to the free market forces which make the individual king.
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul
Actually, I think just the
Actually, I think just the opposite is true. There were no seeds of future devolution within the document, there was only the subversion and usurpation of those principles by unscrupulous and power-hungry men. Jefferson, as well as many of the other Founders, was well aware of the nature of men, that it could not be totally trusted with the framework that they constructed to protect their own Liberty; that is the reason for including so much difficulty in the actual operation of the entire process of government. The convolutions of the structure was intentional. They made it very difficult for the Branches of the federal government to function, therefore it was equally difficult for any one Branch to succeed in a total usurpation in normal circumstance and usage.
However, the sad and unfortunate events of the 1860s and the decades that followed, were something that the Founders hoped would never happen without a great struggle to protect and defend the principles within the Constitution. The problem is that the forces of usurpation were far more powerful and well-equipped then those who sought to defend it.
I am of the opinion that human nature will not allow the type of society of which you speak. Although the ideals behind such a society are admirable, there is a major problem with the natural inclination for people to increase their associations with people like-minded, therefore with that inclination comes an exertion of power from within such associations; ultimately preventing the complete absence of governmental framework. The purely Jeffersonian model is the closest thing to such a system without promoting the dangers of the segmentation that naturally follows a gathering association of like-minded, thus a gathering of like-desires in the formation of a numerical majority. Anytime there is the possibility of any system being effected by or governed by an increased numerical majority then even the most ardent principles behind such systems can and usually will be compromised.
The layers, upon layers of filters within our Constitutional System provides for the fullest expression of Liberty while maintaining the greatest amount of protection to the entire population without promoting majoritarian rule over a minority.
PS...Ah, the Haight....I use to live on Fell St on the Panhandle...what a time that was way, way, way back when.
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"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises
well put.....
Certainly, it would have been impossible for the Founders to predict what would happen in the following centuries. As you know, in that time people mainly associated with what colony they were from rather than being an 'American', and so it would have been difficult for them to see just how great the forces of centralization would become. Also, they could never have predicted how passive and cowardly the American population would become.
It appears you agree with this, and this is what I mean by future devolution. Certainly, if men in power actually abided by Constitutional principles, then society would be both very peaceful and very prosperous. However, it is an inevitability that any state structure will eventually evolve so that all the barriers to oligarchy become thinner and thinner. The Founders certainly made the process of government difficult to prevent sudden usurpations of power, but over time the government structure has evolved as such that the powerful centralized interests are much the same. This is why we have a pushover congress, a corrupt and easily bribable judicial system, and an out of control executive branch. Where once they set themselves against each other, now they work moreso together to screw the rest of the country over. So, the original intent and government structure was superb and well thought out, no doubt, however positing a 'state' no matter how small it begins, it feeds upon the host and grows and grows until finally it becomes a serious problem (like a disease, as you put it). The Constitution is an attempt to put a band-aid on a gaping wound so to speak....I think the problem is the positing of the state, which then requires complex ideas and structures to combat the existence of the state itself.
This is precisely why I favor an anarcho-capitalist system over a limited government system. Why should some of the most important institutions in our society, such as protection or justice, be handled by the state? Even under the best intentions, the state fails miserably in all things (besides maybe a few rare lucky successes here and there). And of course, we all know that what may start as good intentions inevitably give way to the growing roots of corruption, which is the natural tendency in any state structure. As such, things like justice should be under the forces of the free market, like competition. One interesting society to research is medieval Iceland, where they had private courts, and they were very effective. I believe that it is difficult to see how exactly the market would handle such things (and this is why most people recoil at the idea of privatization), but we can definitely theorize that it would be far superior to any state form of justice. I think in a society built around private property and voluntary contract not only would you have an efficient, peaceful, and prosperous society, but also the very institutions by which humans associate (which under a state system are static or devolving) would evolve into ever better forms of dealing with our daily human affairs. You might even think of it as an extension of Darwinian evolution, because it operates on many of the same principles.
My main point is that there are really two options. Let the institutions develop naturally in an anarcho-capitalist system or attempt some form of artificial intervention (i.e., the state, no matter how small). So, the question becomes can artificial intervention improve what would otherwise be the human course of events? I believe the answer is a resounding no.
I've been inspired by people like Rothbard on these matters, and think that in a world without government humanity could reach heights that we never even thought possible....
PS....wish I could say I was actually from the Haight, but I made this name when I was watching "drug years" on VH1. Never been there, although I've read about it. Sounded like a blast.....
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What an odd thing our
What an odd thing our Founding Fathers constructed. It was such an outstanding example of multiplexed genius with layers and levels of operations intent on creating both a smooth and yet, difficult process of government.
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"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises
Confused again
What is the difference in a democracy and majority rule??? I mean, we are suppose to not be a democracy, but we almost always use majority rule or 2/3 rule. We seldom use unanimous, except what, on juries?
As stated, this subject
As stated, this subject tends to be complicated and, at times, confusing to say the least. To simplify let us stick to one area within the Constitution, and that is the ratification process of the Constitution itself, or the passage of an Amendment to the Constitution.
In the Constitutional Provision for its Amendment process, there are two distinct, but related modes required. One is by two-thirds of both Houses of Congress and the other, by Convention of Delegates of the Several States, called by Congress. This Convention and its Delegates are, on application of two-thirds of the respective Legislatures of each of the Several States to propose the Amendment. So, two-thirds are necessary to consider and then propose an Amendment. However, the process is still far from over and even it preliminarily approved through the first two modes, but go back to the Several States to be Ratified by the Legislatures of three-fourths of those States, or by Conventions of the People of three-fourths of those States before it can actually become a part of the Constitution. Obviously the Founders wanted to make it as difficult as possible to actually Amend the Document without proper and thorough consideration or contemplation of the act.
Now comes the interesting part about the principle of Concurrent Consent. While it requires a three-fourths majority of the Several States to ratify the Amendment, that does not mean that it takes a numerical majority to oppose and defeat the Amendment from being Ratified. Even if a numerical majority assented to propose and then approve the Amendment, a numerical minority could thwart the entire process.
To propose an Amendment, it would take approximately 33 States to give assent, which would normally represent a numerical majority however, if say instead we have 19 States opposed it and only 31 to give assent, not much difference in the number of States voting either way, but as you see the numerical minority could block and therefore defeat the proposal. So, even though we are accustom to understanding a system of majority rule, reality is slightly different then what we are accustom to in our understanding of the majority.
Let’s take another example of this by just saying the popular majority of 31 of the States were 40,000,000 for simplicity sake, but the 18 opposing States only had a numerical minority of 10,000,000 people in them. The minority could then express their will contrary to the will of the actual numerical majority because the necessary three-fourths of the States were not in Concurrent Consent.
The system that the Founders instituted was an amazing piece of ingenuity that assisted in the filtration of harmful legislation brought about by jealousies, prejudices or any number of factors including greed. The same is true on all levels of the political process, from the States, to Congress, to the way candidates are elected to office. A numerical majority does not necessarily mean that a particular proposal or candidate is approved in our system. Once again, there were several filters, such as the Electoral College, intent on preventing the possibility of rashness or the abuse of the people’s reasoning ability when choosing an official.
I hope that was a half-way decent explanation of the process however, I am sure it could have been better. I wish I could clarify it with a longer post but, at the moment, by time is limited.
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We are a Democratic
We are a Democratic Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. Nor do we use a numerical majority, we use a system of concurrent majority which is very, very different. I will explain later.
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To be fully appreciated, you
To be fully appreciated, you should read this post with the following:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/44948
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/44748
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/44540
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Free enterprise is exciting!
A friend in Michigan has been working on this for years.
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"PunJab! Bring me my checkbook!"
"GINO" = Government In Name Only
"State" = where the DMV is ...(?)
One reason that "State" is confusing for Americans when referring to the federal govt is that our 50 "states' were originally conceived as having powers nearly equivalent to that of independent countries, including the right to become totally independent if the federal system was overbearing. Lincoln changed all that.
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
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Indeed, the fact is that the
Indeed, the fact is that the Several States were completely Independent and Sovereign States who, by the Consent of their Citizens, delegated power and authority to the federal government to perform specific, limited operations on the behalf of the Several States in Union. The federal government was never intended to be a body-politic outside of its role as a pure reflection of the Several States, made up by the Consent of the Community of Citizens.
The Several States were, and indeed are Constitutionally, the higher power since only a higher power can delegate to another. The Sovereignty of the Several States was never divested, neither prior to nor after the Ratification of the Constitution which formed the federal reflective government in order to perform those highly specialized and limited components of government; namely those components only consisted of relating to foreign governments as a unified voice for the Several States, to oversee Interstate commerce, and for the common defense of the Several States, that is it!
To foreign eyes they would see one government, to domestic eyes they would see the Independent and Sovereign Governments of the Several States operating under very distinct and separate State Constitutions.
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Who wrote this?
I wish there was some word besides State for Federal government. It is confusing, not so much in this article, but in some speeches I have heard. This article is full of good information. I think I may have read it before??? Near the top this article voices some hope. I am not hearing much hope these days, so that is welcome. I think it says the elitists will go down with the economy basically. That sounds like some kind of good news, maybe?? The problem with our condition is no one knows what to expect. It is all uncharted territory.
If you have read it then the
If you have read it then the only other place it appears at the moment is on my blog or on Nolan Charts.
Indeed, the words: The State, referring to the Nationalistic Apparatus and the State, referring to one of the Several States can be a cause for confusion and for that reason I have tried, although not always successful, to try to distinguish between the two. At times it is a matter of context more than any other factor.
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OK...here is a bump for a
OK...here is a bump for a bump's sake...
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Thanks Repulicae for bumping. I have wanted to read more of...
your thoughts after seeing the impressive list of books that you had read recently.
I have a question on your essay here.
1. You call the Constitutional Republic "the ultimate political form for the advancement of society and the individuals who make it up."
I see that you qualified it as the ultimate political form.
Q: Do you see the Constitutional Republic as a stepping stone on the path to a completely free society (that is the abolition of all political forms)?
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Actually, while I can
Actually, while I can appreciate certain philosophies of Anarchy, I do believe that the Original Constitutional concept and mechanism that formed and structured our Democratic Constitutional Republic is the ultimate structure for the advancement of both society and the individual. When you study the mechanisms and the structures within the Constitution you suddenly are absolutely amazed, or at least I was, at the almost "otherworldliness" of the document. It takes so many things about the nature of humanity into consideration that it boggles the mind, even one with an expansive mentality comes away in wonder and awe. As Constitutionalist we tend to comfort ourselves with a certain knowledge and yet, when you actually delve into the immense complexity within the structure and the mechanics of the form and operational layers of the government the Founders envisioned one can not help but feel dwarfed by the universal genius of their "creation".
I tell you this, although the Constitution is derided and castigated as a dead document by many, as one that is obsolete, I can tell you will all certainty that the answer to every single issue and problem faced by this country and its people is found within the incredible Liberating structure of our Constitution.
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Thanks for the reply Republicae...Another few questions for ya!
1. Are you an adherent to the principle that the initiation of coercion on another individual is immoral?
2. If so, do you hold the view that a minarchist government (despite it's gross immorality) is needed because a completely free society wouldn't work?
This view is of course à la Thomas Paine.
Curious to hear your reply!
Answer #1 which must be
Answer #1 which must be naturally in conjunction to Answer #2.
As a person who advocates the cause of Liberty, both for society and for the individual, I feel that it would be contrary to the principle of Liberty to initiate a coercion that would naturally violate that person's Liberty and Freedom to determine his or her own life or the direction they take in their lives.
In conjunction, it appears to be a part of human nature to form structure within the framework of communities. Most historic, even archaic community structures were based on Paternal hierarchies, some were based on Maternal hierarchies, both of which were vertical in structure and administration. Although rare, there were a few that were based on a horizontal hierarchy. All of these hierarchies appear to have arisen out of both a natural need within human nature [as individuals and small communities], and in many cases these structures are influenced by socio-ethnic concerns depending on regional custom and heritage.
That being said, when our Founders began to consider the form and fashion of our Constitution, therefore the government it instituted, they took many things into consideration. Many of these factors they considered were taken from history, both ancient and recent, and then of course, the writings of many who were considered "enlightened". The Founders did something totally and absolutely contrary to what was normally fashioned in most hierarchies, the Pinnacle of Power was not at the top of a vertical structure, but it made up the complete foundation. All Sovereignty was recognized to be within the Individuals themselves with all power and authority delegated from that point instead of an artifice of government. The Founders recognized that the only way to form an organic government was to recognize that the highest power was reserved in the Natural Rights of the People. This formulation was neither vertical, nor horizontal, but was a three dimensional structure that created an extremely complex, living government based upon the principles of a concurrent majority and yet the structure itself prevented the dangers associated with a pure democracy.
As you know, pure democracies tend to become completely swayed by and therefore controlled by the numerical majority; the Founders, well aware of such tendencies, avoided that by instituting a system which used a concurrent majority which would, if allowed, prevent a numerical majority from gaining and therefore using and most likely abusing that power over the minority.
Because of the nature of people, they tend to vote or express their own desires over others, in a pure democracy and any structure that allows for such a direct implementation of power this is usually the outcome without a structure of order to blunt such forces, which usually become destructive to someone or group within society.
The mechanisms of both an indirect and direct representative Republic allowed the Sovereignty of the People en masse, to be filtered and utilized into an organic government, both on the State level and then from the Several States, by concurrent consent, to a federal government which served as a reflection of the Will of the People through the vehicle of the Several States, both through the two Senators appointed by the State Legislatures and the Proportional Representatives through direct and popular vote. It is an amazing structure that works when implemented.
So, I am not sure if that did or did not answer your questions, I hope so.
Please visit my blog to view my short essay on Majoritarianism.
http://1776solution.blogspot.com/2007/07/state-desires-divis...
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Republicae: you answered my question numero un...
but not number two however!
Awaiting your response...
Actually, I thought I did
Actually, I thought I did answer it in so many words. It has been shown that pure democracies fail due to the fact that people, given full and unfiltered control over their lives, will usually seek to enhance their own lives before the lives of others. In such systems, people will eventually form alliances and such alliances will follow the desire to enhance their own lives and the lives of those who share in their alliance; this eventually ends in one groups "lording" over another, especially weaker group.
The goal of our Republic is to give the maximum amount of Freedom to all its members through a complex system of filters that blunt the ability of the majority to gain undue control. For this reason, the Founders instituted various levels of checks and balances, not only for government, but for the whims and at times, irrational desires of the people themselves. The act of forming a community always involves some structure, the question then becomes which type of structure brings the most benefits with the fewest controls and hinderances to Individual Liberty. In my opinion, that structure is the Constitutional Republic formulated and executed by the Founders. Was it or is it perfect? By no means, and they were the first to recognize that fact, but it was close enough to provide for the needs and requirements of Liberty.
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Republicae dude, I'm not quite sure why you're bringing up...
pure democracy. But while were on that subject here are my current views:
a) voluntary democracy is fine.
b) coercive democracy is immoral. This is what all democracy in the political form is.
Regarding my question #2, I'm still not finding satisfactory the answer you gave me.
I'll try and rephrase it here.
Q: Do you adhere to Paine's view that even though the constitutional republic is an immoral entity, it is a necessary one because a fully free society would not work?
Hope that's clear for you man!
So, you guys know any
So, you guys know any Statist? This will get under their saddle.
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