I met a NEOCON AND HAD DRINKS WITH HIM
Posted April 7th, 2008 by Expat but still...
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Ok, So I am sitting in a Bar in Sosua, Dominican Republic with my Girl and along sits beside me a older man late 50s or so. After Idle chit chat find out he lives in Manhattan. A Few jokes aside and comes to his title of work. He claims he works for a THINKTANK on foreign policy. As I was alittle inebriated and didnt put 2+2 together fast enough, So I asked " So what do you think about Ron Paul and a noninterventionalist foreign policy?"
He shrugs his shoulder and cringes a bit and responds " I know Ron and His Policy doesnt work, You would have dictators all over the world and would not be able to instill democracy or freedom"
It was something to that effect. Probably word for word. So he chatted alittle bit more about it, and said, "look, it would take a 2 hr discussion on politics to make the point across"
I said "ok. I do have an analogy for you though, Say you have a house on a beautiful lot with great grass. Your neighbors dog poops on your grass pretty often. You ask the neighbor several times to control his dog. How long do you think it is going to be before you (AS I SAY THIS the Neocon makes his finger in a gun shape and pulls the trigger) Shoot the dog with a bb gun."
I had thought this analogy up along time ago for Rudy Guliani. It originally went as,
Say Rudy and Romney live in the same neighborhood. We all know Romney has a beautiful lawn because he has illegal immigrants working on it. Rudy's dog keeps pooping on Romneys lawn after several pleas from Romney. Bang Rudys dog is dead.
ect ect ect..... The perfect example of BLOWBACK....
ANYWAYS back to the story, So I see this superior all knowing(Yeah Right) being is distressed. So I apologized for bringing up Politics. I did not mean no harm by it. shortly there after he left.
AFTER HE LEFT I was kicking my self for not saying, "Hey it was a pleasure to meet you and THANKS for bringing us IRAQ
F@#$ker"
I tell you alcohol does definetly slow your rection time:)
I constantly meet people like this in my life, ITS strange who you meet in bars.
Years back I met one of the daughters of one of the Federal Reserve Governors in a manhattan biker bar. Her friends told me who she was a daughter to, I said" OH So how long has your father worked for Organized Crime?" without hesitation she replied "for 15 years." She was very tall and moderatly attractive after a few rounds I said good bye and she had a puzzled look like why I didnt ask for her number or something. I can Imagine her taking me home to meet daddy< WHAT A CONVERSATION THAT woulda been...
2 years ago I helped a guy with his nice sailboat tie up to the docks on the jersey shore, We got talking about things and he asked where I worked YADA YADA, The topic of his employment came up and he was very elusive but finally came out that he was a lobbyist. I told him, "Its ok, Everybody needs to make a living....."
I tell you the strange people I meet..... Sorry If I am not a good story teller. There has been a few rounds in between that may have affected my memory.
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As through this world I travel
I meet lots of Funny men
Some will rob you with a six gun
Some with a fountain Pen.
You are funny! Please feel
You are funny! Please feel sorry for me. EVERYONE of my close friends is a neo-con. Oh gawd, the arguments we get in. Every single one of them does not read about anything other than an occasional Faux News. So, there you go...I have only been a non neo con for 11 months. I will celebrate my first anniversary in May.
Great stuff!
Enjoyed reading it.
Cheers!
After thinking about it, I
After thinking about it, I may have made a loose analogy to a neocon who works in a THINKTANK on Foreign Policy, I may have help change or mold foreign policy.
YEAH RIGHT. The turd probably doesnt even remember what being a human being is like....
SERPENTS Slither among us.
Have met many of the powerful. Don't fly in small planes!
They know!
But what to do?
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What do you mean, Are you
What do you mean, Are you risesharing or flying on corporate jets or you talking about as a passenger on a regional jet.
Funny that you...
told that story. My husband has come up with the same Analogy. He is a great Ron Paul supporter but unfortunately he has been so disappointed with what has gone on with our election system, he prefers to just continue working in our garden, and preparing for the worse, and hoping for the best. I can't just sit back, and let the injustice continue.
I am constantly looking for any, and all ways to spread the message of Freedom, and Liberty. Our Constitution, and what our Founding Fathers did was for a very good reason. They knew we would someday face what we are facing now, and the true Patriots would come out, and defend our Country, and it's people from the corruption that is going on now. We can do this, and I know that the majority of people here do in fact know that.
I had one of my customer's tell me today "Why do you have the big Ron Paul sign in front of your business, He is out of the race right? My response was, who told you that? The media? Of course he said yes, so I told him to turn off his TV, stop listening to the radio, get on the internet, and do some research. He should be coming back in a week, or two, lets see what he has to say then.
I think you're a fine
I think you're a fine storyteller. Pretty cool.
I like your analogy
So we are the poop on Iraq's lawn.
I would say the cia/military
I would say the cia/military was our dog that had done the pooping. One day, One iraqi child whos father was slain will mount a terrorist attack, and we will ask our selves "WHY"
Hey it is o.k. At least you
Hey it is o.k. At least you tried..Hopefully I will meet you too someday in the Dominican Republic
Peace,
-Liberty Girl
What was he drinking, Kook-Aid?
Spiked with 200% grain fascism!
I'm surprised the neo-con in
I'm surprised the neo-con in the bar didn't ask you to buy his drinks.
I expect
Since he lives in manhatten and since he works for one of the think tanks that got us into the iraq war, Im sure he had some vested interest and or astocks. I would call it insider trading..... Im sure he is not financially hurting.
I have been talking to a couple of Bank Presidents
about the Federal Reserve.
One said to me if the Fed wasn't owned by our government
that is would be a major conflict of interest... I was like Ya think !!
Then I went on to ask if it wasn't owned and controlled by the government
why then does the government borrow money at interest from themselves and why did congress in 1976 put together a committee to investigate the Fed and the banking influences. He changed the subject....
When people say
the federal reserve is part of the
government,I always say,well then who do we pay the national debt to?That gets them every time.
They always do
They always change the subject or ignore you if you hit one home like that. Good job! Keep opening those eyes up.
interplanetary creature, the neocon
I always like the sound of words and ruminate on them.
"I met a neocon and had drinks with him"....recalls the Starwars bar scene.
Pardon the interruption...continue with your discussion...
One of then best movie scenes ever !!!!
I liked Star Wars before it was kool....
well
don't feel bad. I kick myself in the butt time after time when I realize that I really could have made a better response. Example: A friend in Tx and I were on the phone and he tells me his sister and her in laws all say Ron Paul is crazy. My dumb answer is, well they are uninformed. I should have asked why they thought that so I could have answered to those issues. DUH
I meet neocons all the time
And I help bring them over to us. The key is to point out that Iraq and all this other stuff did not happen overnight. I usually point out that the middle east did nothing more than supply us with oil and other trade products until we started getting involved in their politics. I explain a little about blowback and how we created the problems we face with the middle east today. I also explain to them that it is impossible for us to "bring" democracy to any country, because no one likes to be forced and if it conflicts with their religion or other beliefs, it will always fall apart. After a while they start to get it.
If they don't get it and keep saying we need to fight the terrorists.. I simply ask why then we don't attack known terrorist countries like Saudi Arabia where most of the 9/11 hijackers hail from? I ask them why we do not have conflict with Saudi Arabia which is a country controlled by a dictator and has a huge wahabiist philosophy. I also ask them why we are fighting terrorists and saying we will destroy any country that harbors them or funds them, while we are funding Jundullah (an Al Qaeda offshoot) to attack Iran? Usually they don't know that WE are funding terrorists. Things like this usually start to break down their paradigm.
It sometimes takes a lot of work to get them to understand. Usually after I tell them about us still funding terrorist organizations, I will ask them how they would feel, since we are funding terrorists, if another country came and attacked us for giving Jundullah money and weapons and invaded our country. The biggest question for them to answer is.. What exact business is it of ours what another country does, so long as they do not attack us or declare war on us?
When I say neocon, I MEAN
When I say neocon, I MEAN the 100 or so people that decide the destiny of the Corporation United States. THIS GUY may very well be the DECIDING VOTE in his THINK TANK for all I KNOW.
When you Say Neocon, I think of americans that were duped or tricked.
I say Neocon, THIS IS THE TRICKSTER>.......
DR IS PRETTY
I STAYED IN PUNTA CANA MAN is that that a 3rd world country!
Politacally correct terminolgy
I think its called economically developing country;)
Anyways thats what a person who works at an american embassy corrected me.
Screw that PC redefinition
Screw that PC redefinition garbage! I still, and always will, say "third-world", "oriental", "handicapped", "retarded", and "black" --- all good words that have no reason to be redefined, other than to prove that one is in sympathy with the Thought Police.
I am defintely with you, I
I am defintely with you, I was pointing out what an embassy employee corrected me on.
Oh, understood! My little
Oh, understood! My little tirade was not directed at you!
LOL LOL ha ha ha ha I think your stories are hilarious...but...
LOL LOL ha ha ha ha I think your stories are hilarious...but...they are so sad too, aren't they?
Your writing is very funny though; to the lobbyist "Its ok, Everybody needs to make a living....."
Thanks for the (momentary) laughs =(
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they better put you on the
they better put you on the list for liver transplant now!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Im living on stolen time anyways.
I should have been either killed or severly injured in over a dozen NEAR hits on the 40,000 miles I have put on motorcycles. Or the rockets that flew over my hooch in afghanistan, OR the near car crashes, got hit by a moving car, 10 years of hockey, skiing almost off a cliff, Spearfishing with 10 ft bulls sharks in the vicinity, sailing in 10-15 ft seas, ect ect ect..... But the thing that shortened my life garunteed is working in a hanger doing structures being exposed to all the paints, chemicals, Poor air quality, Radar exposure, and my favorite which just happened last week Almost walking infront of an running engine ect, ect, ect, in my duties as an aircraft maintenance.
Drinking is going to be the least of my problem. Plus On occasion, It helps me sleep to forget about doing repairs on aircraft.....
Catch the drift. Plus science has proved that beer has almost equal effects to red wine.
You may have just found your way into
The most dangerous occupation yet--supporting Ron Paul!!
lol..... where did you play
lol..... where did you play hockey??
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Mostly North Jersey
Mostly North Jersey