Whether you think this picture is staged or not....we all KNOW that innocents are dying in Iraq....just the same as innocents died on Sept. 11th. Does it make it right? Did we even the score yet?
Will it be finished after it is my Son that gets murdered? Or how about when my Son kills his first "insurgent"?
WHEN does it end?
We ALL know that we went into this war based on lies, that we will head into Iran based on more lies....
Even when we went into WWII (under false flag or not) we had an ending goal....stop Hilter...come home! Do we have an ending point here or do we just keep slaughtering ourselves?
Ya know I read somewhere that Bill Gates and other Elite like him have a thought about population control and how to limit the population explosion so they can avoid mass food/resources shortages.....
Did we ever stop to think that this is a pretty damn good way to thin the herd.....get rid of the lower classes, protect resources for the ones who never seem to wind up fighting in these wars???
Good Lord we are so stupid....it's time to pick up the history books children.....take a look at Rome...Germany....truly learn about Ghandi....
We're handing everything over on a silver platter....
We need to explain the principles of Ghandi to those we love...EVEN those in the military! And don't tell me you can't use Ghandi's principles on heathens like Al-Quida...because yes, you're right....but do you really want to live in the world after all the dust settles from these wars....
cause it might be worse than Hell on earth.
Here is a video of IVAW(Iraq Veterans Against War) seizing the National Archieves Building. www.youtube.com/user/Gord... Notice the support from the crowd. This took place on March 19th, and then they went on to the White House and called again for impeachments.
All the senators and congressmen now in office that are financing this death toll in Iraq ......... they must be damned by us, and they must be stopped by us. (Don't watch this if your easily offended http://www.youtube.com/wa... )
The entire congress with only a very few exceptions need to be voted out of office and never be elected again. Funny - George Carlin for Ron Paul from RonPaulBoise.com http://www.youtube.com/wa...
If we really care that is what will happen.
If we are negative and throw up our hands swear and curse and do nothing, nothing is ever going to change.
Ron Paul is an exception. He deserves to stay be president.
We can chose to stand aside and wring our hands and say woe is me woe is our country or we can be more active and dedicated to raising money for the Ron Paul revolution than we ever have in the past.
This revolution needs money donated to those candidates that are to be replaced in congress to help Dr.Ron Paul as President or ans a congressman. we either work for the revolution and seek peace, freedom and prosperity or we let our owners do as they want with us .
We can thank George Bush and the entire Congress for photos such as these. Only Ron Paul is untainted with no blood on his hands. www.paulforronpaul.com
airborne373 wrote: P.S. JeffH, have you thanked an Armed Forces member lately for allowing you to have the freedom to make your claims?
I get so disgusted when people make comments such as the above. No Iraqi came over here & did ANYTHING to take away or abridge my freedoms. My government has done more to destroy my freedoms than any Iraqi, Kuwaiti, Viet Namese, or Korean. I wish we could count on our military to back us up & protect our freedoms when the revolution starts. How much more are people going to stand of our country going down the drain? If things keep up at this rate, something is going to give. The msm NOT reporting the HUGE financial expense of this war - the interest alone is 651 billion dollars on the loan (we don't have the money to war like this & it's borrowed). People are struggling. Those of you in business for yourselves have seen profits slip bit by bit. How far down can we go?
So, please don't give me that "Thank the armed forces" claptrap. It all goes back to that old saw, "What if they gave a war & nobody came." It's time for a revolt - military included.
you have to remember... we the american people were lied to and mislead.. pearlharbor was staged to get us into wwII,( yes that communist bastard FDR new the japanese were going to attack and sactrificed 3000 american personell) golf of tonkin in viet nam, and 911 to get us to fight terroists! we the american people don't take crap from anyone.. the government plays on our patriotism.. patriotism is why many men and women are in the military.. they are not to far along in their understanding of how the government lies to get what it wants.. but i think people are waking up! we must get our foregn policy under control.. that is the message i hope people get from this picture..
4000 us military personell dead, over 100,000 iraqis?? or more.. and for no reason except to further a one world GOVERNMENT!
Why can we fight in Iraq but can't protect our own borders from illegals entering from Mexico (BTw - If they'd come in legally I would welcome them here- even if they took some time to learn English, as long as they did not lie about criminal records, and were not violent)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Even if this photo was staged, we do know this is going on daily. Population of Iraq the day we invaded was estimated to be 59% aged 12 and under. It gets worse tho. We are using depleted uranium bombs. We are poisoning the air, land, and water as well as our own troops with them. No one knows for how long but at least for 150 years.
IF you have a strong stomach...and that's a big IF, check out this website: http://www.mindfully.org/...
Blaming our men and women in uniform is hateful and foolish. They did not declare war on anyone they were sent there by the civilian officials the WE are all responsible for in one way or another.
I have to agree with you airborne... its not the military.. it may be some way high ups in the military, just like our government... put blame on the policy and those who make policy in washington DC (district of corruption)... not the soldier in the field!
I know this is going to piss some people off, but it's true.
Who dropped the ordinance, a politician, or a soldier?
That said...I understand the quandry a soldier can find themselves in when presented with an order that may result in what the picture shows. We don't know the circumstances preceeding the event...the target of the ordinance, or for that matter, even the source. All we have is a picture and a few words.
But, and you must admit this is true, our military has killed innocent men, women, and children in Iraq. If an image is what needs to be seen by the public to 'make it real' to them and to get them motivated to use their influence to get our military out of a situation that they shouldn't have even been in in the first place then so be it!
And for the record, I've served, my father served, and grandfather served. I have friends and family in every branch, and one of my closest friends sons who I love like my own just enlisted. So yeah, I'm extremely grateful to the good work our military does.
So...you're partly right, but you're partly wrong too. Our corrupt government couldn't and doesn't execute it's plans for the world alone. An order which is even just the slightest bit wrong ought not be followed. Place the blame where it belongs...on both those giving the orders as well as those who carry them out.
Jeff our military personnel joined the military because they thought they were fighting for our freedoms! they are just as brainwashed as 90-% of the population in this country who support our government.. its the governments fault! not the military.. I 'm sure orders came down that there were "terorists" where those kids got hit! the point is not who did it... its to get the foreign policy of THIS nation under control so it does not keep happeneing! those kids were not hurt by the military or the people of this country.. they were hurt by idiot sunnies or shiites or our very own government! extremists on both sides!
The Constitution says that the Government is charged with the "Common Defense" of the Member States. No where does it say that the U.S. Military can be used for the "Common Offense".
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Even in HELL, there are those of great humanity. These videos of the 3/73 Burn Clinic in Camp Scania, Iraq may be of interest. This in NOT an official government or Halliburton/KBR/Carlye Group operation. No, it is the result of the men and women of the 82ND AIRBORNE DIVISION and those true American Patriots at home sending support.
(1) It is very encouraging to see good deeds of humanity being done, American or not. These children are our future, they are the ones who will grow up and say that the American citizen or soldier is not evil, it is their government who is evil.
(2) Where the f*^k are the supplies from our government? I swear our government is a disgrace to the world. What happen to the days of overturning a goverment and hanging its corrupt leaders.
My wife has a 5th grade student, a 10yr old girl who was adopted from China that has 3rd degree burns on 70% of her body. She spends alot of time with us playing with are little ones. Kids her age just wont associate with her. Pisses my wife to know end. So to see these kids at the burn clinic brings tears to my eyes knowing that they will hopefully have a chance at life.
When I was at my convention,I
got into a fight with a man about the war.I told him babies were
getting killed for no reason and he said"oh well,as long as we are kept safe"!!I hope every
American sees this picture!
I feel more patriotic just looking at that photo. I'm so proud to call myself a bloody American. "The cause of freedom" allegedly being fought for in Iraq is sure winning a lot of hearts and minds (and limbs). I'm sure this one will make the Illinois Cook County GOP's website.
"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul
This is such a terrible thing.....
Whether you think this picture is staged or not....we all KNOW that innocents are dying in Iraq....just the same as innocents died on Sept. 11th. Does it make it right? Did we even the score yet?
Will it be finished after it is my Son that gets murdered? Or how about when my Son kills his first "insurgent"?
WHEN does it end?
We ALL know that we went into this war based on lies, that we will head into Iran based on more lies....
Even when we went into WWII (under false flag or not) we had an ending goal....stop Hilter...come home! Do we have an ending point here or do we just keep slaughtering ourselves?
Ya know I read somewhere that Bill Gates and other Elite like him have a thought about population control and how to limit the population explosion so they can avoid mass food/resources shortages.....
Did we ever stop to think that this is a pretty damn good way to thin the herd.....get rid of the lower classes, protect resources for the ones who never seem to wind up fighting in these wars???
Good Lord we are so stupid....it's time to pick up the history books children.....take a look at Rome...Germany....truly learn about Ghandi....
We're handing everything over on a silver platter....
We need to explain the principles of Ghandi to those we love...EVEN those in the military! And don't tell me you can't use Ghandi's principles on heathens like Al-Quida...because yes, you're right....but do you really want to live in the world after all the dust settles from these wars....
cause it might be worse than Hell on earth.
There are those saying enough is enough
Here is a video of IVAW(Iraq Veterans Against War) seizing the National Archieves Building. www.youtube.com/user/Gord... Notice the support from the crowd. This took place on March 19th, and then they went on to the White House and called again for impeachments.
We should say
All the senators and congressmen now in office that are financing this death toll in Iraq ......... they must be damned by us, and they must be stopped by us. (Don't watch this if your easily offended http://www.youtube.com/wa... )
The entire congress with only a very few exceptions need to be voted out of office and never be elected again. Funny - George Carlin for Ron Paul from RonPaulBoise.com http://www.youtube.com/wa...
If we really care that is what will happen.
If we are negative and throw up our hands swear and curse and do nothing, nothing is ever going to change.
Ron Paul is an exception. He deserves to stay be president.
We can chose to stand aside and wring our hands and say woe is me woe is our country or we can be more active and dedicated to raising money for the Ron Paul revolution than we ever have in the past.
This revolution needs money donated to those candidates that are to be replaced in congress to help Dr.Ron Paul as President or ans a congressman. we either work for the revolution and seek peace, freedom and prosperity or we let our owners do as they want with us .
We can thank George Bush and
We can thank George Bush and the entire Congress for photos such as these. Only Ron Paul is untainted with no blood on his hands.
www.paulforronpaul.com
I'm not thanking nobody!
airborne373 wrote: P.S. JeffH, have you thanked an Armed Forces member lately for allowing you to have the freedom to make your claims?
I get so disgusted when people make comments such as the above. No Iraqi came over here & did ANYTHING to take away or abridge my freedoms. My government has done more to destroy my freedoms than any Iraqi, Kuwaiti, Viet Namese, or Korean. I wish we could count on our military to back us up & protect our freedoms when the revolution starts. How much more are people going to stand of our country going down the drain? If things keep up at this rate, something is going to give. The msm NOT reporting the HUGE financial expense of this war - the interest alone is 651 billion dollars on the loan (we don't have the money to war like this & it's borrowed). People are struggling. Those of you in business for yourselves have seen profits slip bit by bit. How far down can we go?
So, please don't give me that "Thank the armed forces" claptrap. It all goes back to that old saw, "What if they gave a war & nobody came." It's time for a revolt - military included.
you have to remember... we
you have to remember... we the american people were lied to and mislead.. pearlharbor was staged to get us into wwII,( yes that communist bastard FDR new the japanese were going to attack and sactrificed 3000 american personell) golf of tonkin in viet nam, and 911 to get us to fight terroists! we the american people don't take crap from anyone.. the government plays on our patriotism.. patriotism is why many men and women are in the military.. they are not to far along in their understanding of how the government lies to get what it wants.. but i think people are waking up! we must get our foregn policy under control.. that is the message i hope people get from this picture..
4000 us military personell dead, over 100,000 iraqis?? or more.. and for no reason except to further a one world GOVERNMENT!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I understand---
Why can we fight in Iraq but can't protect our own borders from illegals entering from Mexico (BTw - If they'd come in legally I would welcome them here- even if they took some time to learn English, as long as they did not lie about criminal records, and were not violent)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Even if this photo was
Even if this photo was staged, we do know this is going on daily. Population of Iraq the day we invaded was estimated to be 59% aged 12 and under. It gets worse tho. We are using depleted uranium bombs. We are poisoning the air, land, and water as well as our own troops with them. No one knows for how long but at least for 150 years.
IF you have a strong stomach...and that's a big IF, check out this website:
http://www.mindfully.org/...
Thats just sickeningly
Thats just sickeningly disturbing...These elitist scum bags just dont care...they are not human.
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THAT IS THE WORK OF OUR MILITARY
AT THE BEHEST OF OUR LEADERS ON BEHALF OF THEIR INTERESTS.
Have a good long look.
no its the evil in our
no its the evil in our government wether they be democrat or republican...
Same SH*t different flies!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
NO- That is the work or YOUR politcal leaders.
Blaming our men and women in uniform is hateful and foolish. They did not declare war on anyone they were sent there by the civilian officials the WE are all responsible for in one way or another.
Here is the work of our military:
http://www.liveleak.com/v...
P.S. JeffH, have you thanked an Armed Forces member lately for allowing you to have the freedom to make your claims?
I have to agree with you
I have to agree with you airborne... its not the military.. it may be some way high ups in the military, just like our government... put blame on the policy and those who make policy in washington DC (district of corruption)... not the soldier in the field!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Really?
I know this is going to piss some people off, but it's true.
Who dropped the ordinance, a politician, or a soldier?
That said...I understand the quandry a soldier can find themselves in when presented with an order that may result in what the picture shows. We don't know the circumstances preceeding the event...the target of the ordinance, or for that matter, even the source. All we have is a picture and a few words.
But, and you must admit this is true, our military has killed innocent men, women, and children in Iraq. If an image is what needs to be seen by the public to 'make it real' to them and to get them motivated to use their influence to get our military out of a situation that they shouldn't have even been in in the first place then so be it!
And for the record, I've served, my father served, and grandfather served. I have friends and family in every branch, and one of my closest friends sons who I love like my own just enlisted. So yeah, I'm extremely grateful to the good work our military does.
So...you're partly right, but you're partly wrong too. Our corrupt government couldn't and doesn't execute it's plans for the world alone. An order which is even just the slightest bit wrong ought not be followed. Place the blame where it belongs...on both those giving the orders as well as those who carry them out.
Jeff our military personnel
Jeff our military personnel joined the military because they thought they were fighting for our freedoms! they are just as brainwashed as 90-% of the population in this country who support our government.. its the governments fault! not the military.. I 'm sure orders came down that there were "terorists" where those kids got hit! the point is not who did it... its to get the foreign policy of THIS nation under control so it does not keep happeneing! those kids were not hurt by the military or the people of this country.. they were hurt by idiot sunnies or shiites or our very own government! extremists on both sides!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
The Constitution says that
The Constitution says that the Government is charged with the "Common Defense" of the Member States. No where does it say that the U.S. Military can be used for the "Common Offense".
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
looks staged
Doesn't look real to me. The faces of the men are not right. The children don't look scared. Not buying, sorry.
I dont even know how to
I dont even know how to respond to your post?????????
What expressions are left in a fathers face when he is holding his bloody, possibly dead child in his arms?
Is it possible the children are dead, hence them no longer being scared?
Staged, why? Maybe because on a daily basis fathers in Iraq carry their dead children to their grave, and they are trying anything to stop it.
Asshole of the day........ "ladalang"
War IS HELL!
Even in HELL, there are those of great humanity. These videos of the 3/73 Burn Clinic in Camp Scania, Iraq may be of interest. This in NOT an official government or Halliburton/KBR/Carlye Group operation. No, it is the result of the men and women of the 82ND AIRBORNE DIVISION and those true American Patriots at home sending support.
Scania Burn Center Helps Locals:
http://www.liveleak.com/v...
Airborne Medics Expand Clinic:
http://www.liveleak.com/v...
I would like to know more about this.
It has me twisted in several directions.
(1) It is very encouraging to see good deeds of humanity being done, American or not. These children are our future, they are the ones who will grow up and say that the American citizen or soldier is not evil, it is their government who is evil.
(2) Where the f*^k are the supplies from our government? I swear our government is a disgrace to the world. What happen to the days of overturning a goverment and hanging its corrupt leaders.
My wife has a 5th grade student, a 10yr old girl who was adopted from China that has 3rd degree burns on 70% of her body. She spends alot of time with us playing with are little ones. Kids her age just wont associate with her. Pisses my wife to know end. So to see these kids at the burn clinic brings tears to my eyes knowing that they will hopefully have a chance at life.
Spread this far and wide!
When I was at my convention,I
got into a fight with a man about the war.I told him babies were
getting killed for no reason and he said"oh well,as long as we are kept safe"!!I hope every
American sees this picture!
Just wrong...
Confirmation…I am human. This picture should be put on a billboard for all to see.
"The cause of freedom"
I feel more patriotic just looking at that photo. I'm so proud to call myself a bloody American. "The cause of freedom" allegedly being fought for in Iraq is sure winning a lot of hearts and minds (and limbs). I'm sure this one will make the Illinois Cook County GOP's website.
"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul