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What Happens When You Don't Pay The "Voluntary" Income Tax

U.S. recommends 3-year sentence for Wesley Snipes

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Coincidence that he is sentenced on Steal Our Income Tax Day?

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The IRS is our best friend

The IRS is our best friend right now. As the economy continues to tank and folks can't pay their taxes, more are going to wake up. Like the abusive measures of the British were power to the Sons of Liberty, the IRS and other non-Constitutional governmental agencies or actions bring more over to our movement. Keep informing, keep fighting the information battle. WE ARE breaking through.

What's funny..

.. is that in "real life" Snipes is nerdy in a Steve Urkel kind of way.

=P

well, when you don't

well, when you don't surrender, they come and get you with guns and take away your house, possessions, family, life, etc.... steal your money and terrorize you, etc. Or at the very least audit you and make your life a living hell.

It been done

It been done by the "We the People foundation's" So far it went nowhere.

The IRS has no authority to levy wages or taxes, confiscate bank accounts, property, etc. without due process of law meaning a court order by a judge after a person is convicted of a crime. Banks and local police go along out of ignorance and fear. If every LE agency and every bank etc. would demand a court order before complying with the IRS they would collapse almost over night.

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Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death. Patrick Henry

Class action law suit against the IRS

Lets file a class action law suit against the IRS, stating to show the law that requires you to pay, Maybe everyone should file a restraining order against the IRS?

Keep in mind.

They have more power than the FBI and no oversight. They can levy everything you own. They will clean out all of your cash assets and leverage your existing credit cards. That’s right, they invoke an (unauthorized but legal) transaction up to your limit then you are broke and have no credit resources. It sucks. There is nothing you can do but shell out $1,000.00 (+) for a tax rescue firm to get you set up on a payment plan.

Best thing to do is do cash business and get off the grid.

"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"

First do this!

By the power and authority entrusted to me by my Creator, I, a person of these united States, choose to exercise my unalienable right to establish and define myself as free person independent from the government of "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA".

Then support this;

April 15th, 2008

A Liberty article

By the power and authority entrusted to us by our Creator, we the people of these united States choose to exercise our unalienable right to establish and define ourselves as free people independent from the government of "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". (Incorporation of District of Columbia by (Presidential) Legislative Act of February 21, 1871)
No existing amendment or law shall have power over this definition as it is de jure, and as such no vote by congress shall be necessary for it to be included into the Constitution nor shall any vote by congress permit the elimination of this definition by law. Our freedom is self evident by law of nature, under the authority of our Creator, that all people have unalienable rights received from our Creator and shall be supported by the actions of the people of these united States.
From this day forward all people within these united States shall be soveriegn with no legal bond under any institutional government, we shall no longer be considered citizens of the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but are to be considered soveriegn people of these united States with unalienable rights given to us by our Creator as equally held by all earthly kings.

Land Rights
We declare that any land assets held in trust for us by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" shall be divided into land patents. Distribution of land patents shall be received by people in the form of an allodial title. We shall not recognize rights to lands as were held in trust by the U.S. government which have been given to any government, foreign nation or corporation, other than the government of these united States.
Native American Indian reservation lands including rights held in trust by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", shall pass exclusively to individual members of the American Indian community in the form of land patents and be distributed to individuals of these tribes and nations in the form of allodial title, which by definition include all mineral rights. The American Indian community consisting of many different tribes shall no longer be bound by any authority of the "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" , and shall establish their own governments as soveriegn individuals such as they find necessary. These American Indian nations are also entitled the right to Statehood if they so choose, as do all other territories currently under the control of "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" and Canada under the terms of the "Articles of Confederation"...
The minimum size of a land patent shall consist of one square foot. The number of land patents each person shall receive will be determined by the total square foot area of land held in trust by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" divided by the number of people of these united States. These land patents may be traded by the entitled person.
All individuals currently in possession of private lands shall be entitled to have their lands recognized by land patents. Any corporate land held in trust shall negociate with "it's" respective share holders to have transfered all land to private individual ownership for which they shall also be entitled to land patents.
Each State will be entitled to a proportioned part as part of a whole part of additional properties, excluding land, held in trust by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERCA". Each State shall be entitled to receive a portion of all assets held by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and transfered to the authority of the people of these united States for deposit into the treasury of each independent State.
The sale of all property, excluding land, but including territories not entitled to Statehood and national waters held in trust by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" shall be actioned exclusively to living individuals of these united States and no foreign nation or corporation shall be allowed to participate in such actions. Purchases will be used to pay in "Real" money, gold or silver, goods or services for all debt owed by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", as a means of exchange for Federal Reserve Notes in circulation and owed by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" as outstanding debt to foreign nations and individuals. Upon reciept of these outstanding Federal Reserve Notes of debt, all notes will be destroyed. The Federal Reserve Bank as of the 17th September 2008 will have no right to issue new notes, nor does "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" have the right to create more debt. We the People of these united States, do hereby declare that property ownership shall be recognized by these united States only under the condition of private ownership by individuals; corporations will no longer be recognized as having equal rights to those of an individual. A transition period of no more than 4 years shall pass for the transfer of property titles to individuals. No longer will patents be controlled by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", but by local governing systems under total control and individual responsibility of the people of these united States, All patents shall hencefore be the full responsibility of the individual owner to protect and defend. Those holding a land patent are liable for all actions which cause damage or interfere with the rights of other land patent owners. All privately owned residential properties shall hold a land patent and the responsibility to protect and defend these land patents shall be with the owner, any recognition or admistration of land patents shall be by local freely elected land patent officials.
We the people establish that no taxes shall be levied against land patents other than freely raise monies between private local neighboring owners of land patents.
Taxes may be applied to corporations who lease multiple land patents from owners for their activities by local governments. All responsibility for activities on lands will be with the owner of the land patent.
We the people do hereby declare that no longer will amendments to the Constitution be honored with respect to taxation beyond those specifically outlined by the original articles. Therefore no federal income tax shall be levied against the people by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", all user fees solicited in exchange for service, roadways and waterways shall be administered by local elected officials with direct authority strictly from the people. Taxes may be levied against corporations according to State law.
A maximum of 1 year (as of September 17th, 2008) shall pass for the free exchange of Federal Reserve Notes, afterwhich the Federal Reserve Notes will no longer be recognized by the people of these united States of America as money. Real money shall be considered the coinage of gold, silver or other commodity, by which the minting of coins shall be the responsibility of local governments.
No commodidy or service may be restricted for use as a means of exchange as well as no tax may be applied to any kind of trade between individuals.
All local public services shall be the responsibility of the local government to contract and paid for from donations or fees raised from such community or from corporatate taxes within their district. All services shall be privatized and only local government regulations may apply.
Payment of debt held by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" shall be made to debtors in Federal Reserve Notes, these notes will be valid for trade within these united States for a term of 1 year(as of September 17th, 2008). Federal Reserve Notes after the prescribed date shall no longer be recognized as legal tender in these united States. And all debt shall be paid by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" by auctioning all possessions, excluding land. No transfer of holdings by "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" to any government other than the govenment of these united States will be recognized. "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" reffers to any entity created by the Incorporation of District of Columbia by (Presidential) Legislative Act of February 21, 1871, under the Emergency War Powers Act and the Recostruction Acts.

This article shall become effective on September 17th 2008

"iehuvihs"

Thanks Snipes

You have the courage to take a bullet for the movement.

Total BS

Snipes doesn't file to pay income taxes, so what do we do, put him in jail at taxpayers expense for 3 yrs. Brilliant!
Why not just let him continue to work and let him give what he feels is fair and save us all some money.

Actually we should put in jail every senator and congressman who overspends the taxpayers monies.
Every $1,000 overspent is a year in maximum security prison.
You think our elected officials might follow the law then.

Davy C Rockett

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Yes, putting him in jail is stupid, but I'm sure you're aware

that they're doing this, on this particular day, in order to spread fear among the remaining sheep in the U.S. who will dutifully submit and send the government money plus all matter of personal and financial information so that Uncle Skunk can better manage our lives for us. They always showcase the high profile cases around this time of the year and are running their PR fear machine at full tilt. They know that, if enough people refuse to "volunteer", their system will collapse quickly. Best regards.

No Coincidence

Of course it is no coincidence; it is part of the ongoing campaign by the IRS to discredit and ruin people who have discovered the truth about the income tax. The agency has all the resources of the federal government on its side, and prosecutors with the Department of "Justice" will pull any dirty trick in the book to convict "tax honesty" people. Read about Larken Rose's kangaroo court case in his forthcoming book, "Kicking the Dragon," to get a sampling of the kinds of trials these people have.

Great patriots are going to prison: Irwin Schiff, Sherry Peel Jackson, Dr. Tom Clayton, and Dick Simkanin to name a few. Do some research on these courageous patriots and support them. And please be aware that the Quatloose web site is horribly one-sided. I actually think it's run by the IRS.

BTW, Wesley Snipes has not yet been sentenced.

I had a friend

who did not pay for several years and it backfired bad on her. They garnished her wages and she ended up filing bankruptcy because she could never pay back what she owed with the interest accrued and she couldn't live on the salary that was left to her.

It's an big, bad, evil monster to fight.

There's new ways to fight this now

Same thing happened to me and I quickly found a CPA on the Internet who dealt only in IRS wage garnishments. He lifted the levy in 2 days and I was found unable financially to pay the amount back. (cost to me: $900 as opposed to nearly $10,000) It was a 12 year old tax amount that had been guestimated and multiplied about 20 times. Since there is a 10 year statute of limitation from when it was assessed (they don't want you to know about this), it drops off very soon.

Fight any legal way you can. Use your brain.

voluntary...

I did some reading on this subject this weekend (daily paul down) and have been a long time subscriber to the illegal income tax. Even have Irwin Schiff's The Federal Mafia Book and have read it cover to cover. What I think I have learned is that the 16th amendment did provide the authority to levy the tax. The issue was with approitment. The Feds could not impose an excise tax without approitment ( I know I am spelling that wrong / I can't spell it let alone say it) meaning they had to spread what they collected to the states in comparison to their population. The individual income tax is collected without apportenment.

The jury is still out for me on this, I have to chew on things for a few days before they sink in - but it did make me question what I had believed.

Any comments are welcome - but come on people don't jump down my throat.

It's entirely up to you

If you have a job you can just walk away from then do what you want. But if they come after you, just have a CPA ready to lift a wage garnishment order.

All I know is that the 16th

All I know is that the 16th amendment did NOT grant any new taxing powers what so ever. I know that for certain.

If you would like some pretty sound evidence for this...

www.losthorizons.com check out the books written by the site owner as well.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

The Constitution forbids

The Constitution forbids government from collecting an unapportioned tax on wages. Period. Either something is constitutional or unconstitutional. The government would not agree to spread (apportion) collected taxes among the states. Tax revenues currently flow into federal goverment for the benefit of big federal government (and private bankers' loan interest), which is what the Constitution is protecting us against.

Doesn't The Ammendment Change That Though?

The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) of the United States Constitution was ratified on February 3, 1913. This Amendment overruled Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. (1895), which greatly limited the Congress's authority to levy an income tax. This Amendment allows the Congress to levy an income tax without regard to the States or the Census.

The supreme court rules

The supreme court rules income taxes to be unconstitutional in 1881.

Also, are you certain that the 16th amendment was ratified? I've read that it was not ratified by the states, which is a requirement as mandated by the constitution.

More

The Amendment overruled the effect of Pollock.[22] That essentially means that when imposing an income tax, the Congress may impose the tax on income from any source without having to apportion the total dollar amount of tax collected from each state according to each state's population in relation to the total national population.[23] In Abrams v. Commissioner, the United States Tax Court stated: "Since the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment, it is immaterial with respect to income taxes, whether the tax is a direct or indirect tax. The whole purpose of the Sixteenth Amendment was to relieve all income taxes when imposed from [the requirement of] apportionment and from [the requirement of] a consideration of the source whence the income was derived."[24]

The federal courts' interpretations of the Sixteenth Amendment have changed considerably over time and there have been many disputes about the applicability of the amendment.

"the United States Tax Court"

"the United States Tax Court" is an administrative body for the IRS, and not a federal judicial court. It is certainly NOT above the US Supreme Court.
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Moobi

"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson

thats right!

and after they sieze your bank account, auction off your home and assets and run you into the ground. Your still supposed to have the funds (let alone the energy) to fight. When no one has actually defeated this in supreme court.

I know I said I have Irwin Shiffs book, but guess what HE SITS IN FEDERAL PRISON right now. We have to pay and fight back. Don't think I don't have IRS problems - oh boy I do!

Let's say that the 16th

Let's say that the 16th Amendment is free from argument, and Congress has that power. Did they legislate a law to collect tax?

They Did

And it was ratified by every state in the union.

What is your source for

What is your source for coming to that conclusion?

By ratified...

...do you mean it was actually ratified, or just put in place by the federal government, as was the case with the 14th Amendment and considered to be "ratified"?

The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

Which law?

Which law?