Let's Recall The Senator & Possibly Replace Him With Barry Goldwater Jr.

I Googled long enough, can't find anything to back up ABC's story. ABC and probably other MSM may be trying to upset the Ron Paul supporters and roil us up. I'll say one thing for us though, we are'nt ignorant of MSM tactics. The only stuff I find is McCain talking in awe about Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.
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abc doesn't give any source for Goldwater planning to endorse McCain. We should have learned to distrust them and their likes ! So don't panic. Unlikely McCain's campaign would stay stealth with such news. Someone in the know should check it. arizona steve seems to be offline.

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.. what political parties are? Political parties are private clubs that are about building COALITIONS with the goal of nominating candidates to compete in elections against other parties.

A coalition is when a variety of groups and persons with a wide array of competing philosophies unite behind a common platform and nominee. This most often requires agreeing to some philosophies and agendas that you don't agree with in exchange for some(or one) of your philosophies and agendas being included in the platform.

In a party, if at the end of the day your philosophies don't win out and your chosen candidate does not win the nomination, and if you have hopes and plans for building a future coalition and majority behind your ideas and chosen candidates within that party, then you unite behind the parties chosen person regardless of whether you like them or not... or you leave the party.

This is just how parties work. Especially in a two-party system like ours where coalition building is by nature more intensive and extreme because of having to unite a wider variety of opinions under only two banners. If you wish to work within one of the parties in the future, and to maintain the respect of the other participants in that party for the future, you vote for the majority chosen nominee even if you have to hold your breath to do so.

This is NOT "selling out" or disgraceful or traitorous. It's just the way things work. You either vote for the candidate or you don't. If you are a person with aspirations for future political office you DO vote for the nominee regardless of whether you like them or not. This is done in the name of "party unity". And no, party unity is not a dirty disgraceful word. It's being civil and mannered and waiting your turn.

If you are a member of, say, a model train club, and the club votes to choose which restaurant to go to for a monthly get-together, and you and a minority don't like the choice of restaurant, you don't start calling them "sell outs" or "traitors". If you hope to be a leader in that club one day, or have your restaurant chosen in the future, you shut up and go to the restaurant they chose but you didn't like.

Barry and Dr. Paul are choosing to work within the party for the future and have chosen to be civil and respectful to the process with the hopes of building a future coalition and consensus in their favor. Even if you disagree with them they have made an honorable choice.

Choosing to vote for the Republican nominee is NOT an endorsement of the nominee. It is party loyalty and is a way of saying, "you have the majority today and I respect that but when the day comes we have the majority then you have an obligation to return in-kind".

Be careful with the name-calling, innuendo and character assassination via labels. That is what "soccer hooligans" do and what communist and fascist groups engage in when trying to purge dissenting voices within a party. It's just not fair and it's just not tasteful and it is reactionary, rude and destructive of civil coalition building.

Instead of calling names and stabbing at others character, especially honorable figures such as Barry Goldwater, Jr., why not just leave the party? Sticking around and calling people names does NOTHING for coalition building. And coalition building is THE purpose of a political party.

Thank you for your offer of help.

Right now we need more that a few dozen people to get excited about this project. We still haven't even heard from any of the meet-up group.

Sharing this idea must continue for probably another week. Everytime it is bumped or a comment is posted it only remains in view for a few minutes. So we need to keep this idea alive. Once our number greatly increase and more folks are willing to put out the effort we can press the button and get rolling.

As this economy worsens a little more, I believe that our numbers will really begin to increase. Then when the iron is hot, we strike.

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I worked for Barry's Father as a member of the Los Angeles Young Republicans and Young Americans For Freedom in 1963-64, and I believe that our groups helped him make up his mind to run for President. He would have made one heck of a good President and Barry, like his Dad, would make a great Senator. He not only looks a lot like him but he has that down-to-earth common sense and intelligence that is so lacking in Congress these days. In addition, he comes from good All-American stock, through and through and he won't let them push him around. He will stand-up for and defend the Constitution, you can bet on that. I believe we could talk him into running for the office as we did his dad.

I also believe that McStumble-Bum's hot-headiness and short temper would quickly rise to the surface if he had to fight to retain his Senate seat and run for President at the same time. He isn't a well man and he is medicated most of the time. It won't take long for him to short out.

Our best reward maybe at the convention.

Wouldn't that just chap-the-hide of the establishment if we pulled off a two-fer and took away his Senate seat and his nomination?

Great Comment. How do you feel about asking the meet-up groups to join together to spearhead such an effort? Or, is there another way to go? We will probably need a good attorney to write the petition, unless we use one from the recent past that was very successful. Then we could possibly copy that one and have it blessed by an attorney or two and proceed to gather signatures. This Senator will fight like the "mad-man" he is to retain his senatorial seat, so we need to make sure that all of the "T's are crossed and the "i" are dotted.

Having a few Billboards up throughout the state and a couple of ad's in various newspapers would also help spread the word.

Welcome Aboard. A lot of work needs to be done.

Arizona Meet-up Groups will have to spearhead the way.

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I Believe that we will need the assistance of the meet-up groups to spear-head such an effort. Once a plan is in place we could possibly request a money-bomb to help pay for newspaper ad's and maybe even a bill-board or two. Scottsdale Arizona is one of the wealthest cities in America and there are plenty of Ron Paul Supporters living there that might help out.

My thought is that if we could force McStumble-Bum into a re-call election we could possibly request that Barry Goldwater, Jr. run against him. Barry would win hands down. Thats what I would like to see, anyway.

The other way to go is to get the state congress to pass a resolution that the 17th amendment was never ratified and they could then recall him themselves. Once the state makes a claim the fed has to prove it was ratified, which they can't because it never was.

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