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Rice and Beans Question
Does anyone know how much rice/beans to buy per person for a year?
I bought 50 pounds each of pinto beans, black beans, and black-eyed peas. I also bought 110 pounds of organic brown rice.
There's just two of us.
Any links/info would be helpful.
Thanks,
Lisa C.
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wells with electric pumps
Was anyone able to answer the question about getting water from a 70' well with out electricity?
Manual hand pumps...
.. for wells START at $700. And that doesn't include the coupling kit. =|
They will do 70' easily. Here's an example:
http://www.absak.com/cata...
Anyone subscribe to Backwoods Home magazine?
I have been getting it for years, and the latest one looks great, havn't read it yet, but can't wait. It is basically libertarian, and so very practical. I am a Christian, yet it is not, but I have yet to find anything offensive, well, maybe the "irreverent joke page", but that's not so bad. I recommend it highly for everyone, even if you live in the city. This issues articles;
Preparedness issue:
Making bread
Survival gardening
Family Medical Kit
Storing food protein
Preparedness friends
Long term food storage
Whole grains for health
3 tiers of preparedness
Stock up on guns and ammo
Get building materials cheap
Understanding energy basics.
Well, don't bother me for a couple hours, please, and if you don't get it, eat your heart out. Just kidding. Will share anything wonderful I read later.
They have a website. www.backwoodshome.com
I've read...
.. several mainstream news items recently about how families and people are shifting quickly into self-reliance mode. I bet Backwoods Home and self-reliance businesses are doing really well about right now. =)
SUPPLIES
Sorry Lisa, lets just try it like this : Miscellaneous supplies to store up
• 25 pounds laundry soap
• 12 28 oz. bottles dish soap
• 73 rolls toilet paper
• sanitary napkins in sufficient quantity
• 8 gallons bleach (used for sanitation as well as laundry)
• 12 bars hand soap
• 6 24 oz. bottles shampoo
• personal products, such as toothpaste, deodorant
• chainsaw oil and other items to keep things running
• pet foods
• livestock feed
• 55 gallons kerosene for lighting
• 25 gallons Coleman fuel or other lantern fuel
Suggested contents of a good medical kit
A good first aid book
Thermometer
Daily prescription meds for all family
members
Antibiotics
Ointments for the eye, fungus & cuts
Antidiarreal medication
Pain and anti-inflamitory medication
such as asprin
Burn treatment, such as Burn Free
Iodine/Betadine
Alcohol
Oral electrolytes (for dehydration from
fever, diarrhea, stress)
Cold remedies
Cough medicines
Cough drops/throat discs
Bandages
Gauze
Cotton
Surgical tape
Scissors
Hemostats
Tweezers
Needles to remove slivers
A dental kit to patch dentures,
replace fillings, etc.)
* Food and water for family, pets & livestock for at least 14 days; 55 gallons of fresh water will last a family of four for over seven days.
* Daily medications for family for 14 days
* Alternative heat source & fuel
* Alternative cooking source & fuel
* Alternative lighting source & fuel
* Flashlights & batteries
* Transistor, crank or solar radio
* Medical kit
* Matches
* Butane lighters
* Magnesium, flint & steel fire starter
Checklist for vehicle emergency preparedness
Jack & lug wrench
Spare tire
Shovel
Battery jumper cables
Basic tool kit
Fix-A-Flat
Oil
Lighter air pump
Gallon of drinking water
Blankets
Basic first aid kit
Flashlight
Emergency food
Candles with matches
Map
Cell phone or C.B. can
be a life saver
Evacuation Needs
Storage food in large cooler #1
Instant potatoes
Dry milk
Canned tuna
Dehydrated eggs
Dry noodles
Flour
Shortening
TVPs
Dry soup mixes
MREs (military instant Rice
meals; meals ready to eat)
Dry beans
Margarine powder
Dehydrated fruit
Dehydrated vegetables
Tomato powder
Baking powder
Salt
Spices & condiments
Pudding mixes
Cornmeal
Instant coffee, tea, drink mixes
Sugar
Kitchen box in large cooler #2
Frying pan
Large pot
Smaller pot
Mixing bowl, steel (can double as cooking utensil)
Matches & lighters
Toilet paper
Paper towels
Dish towel
Dish soap
Candles
Dish scrubber pad
Bowls for family
Silverware for family
Metal spatula
Roll of duct tape
Small roll of wire
Metal cups for family
Small water filter
Propane stove & tanks
Flashlight & batteries
Hatchet
Medical Kit (as previously detailed)
Sleeping Gear (in large plastic box) Sleeping bags
Candles & lighters
Coleman lantern
Unopened gallon of lantern fuel
Bow saw
Warm socks & jackets
10’ x 12’ plastic tarp
lightweight tent
Radio
Rifle/shotgun and ammunition (food procurement, signaling, and family protection)
Personal backpacks
Warm clothes
Emergency food
Socks
Stocking hat
Basic fishing gear without rod
Small first aid kit
Space blanket
Flashlight
Roll of wire & rope
Pocket knife
Canteen with cup
Lighter
A few dollars in quarters & bills
Grains
• 300 pounds of hard wheat or in combination with 150 pounds of wheat and 150 pounds of flour.
• 50 pounds of dry corn to grind for cornmeal
• 50 pounds of soft wheat
• 50 pounds white rice
• 50 pounds brown rice
• 50 pounds oatmeal
• 25 pounds of masa harina de maize (corn flour for tortillas and tamales)
Legumes
• 50 pounds of pinto beans
• 50 pounds of combined other beans, such as navy, kidney, etc.
• 20 pounds of split peas
• 20 pounds lentils
Dairy
• 18 #10 cans dry milk or in combination with boxes of store-bought dry milk
• 2 #10 cans cheese powder
• 5 #10 cans dehydrated eggs
• 3 #10 cans butter or margarine
Sugar
• 50 pounds white granulated sugar
• 10 pounds brown sugar
• 10 pounds powdered sugar
Shortening/Oil
• 10 3# cans shortening
• 5 48 fl. oz. bottles vegetable oil
• 2 16 fl. oz. bottles olive oil
Salt
• 10 pounds iodized table salt (used in pickling & meat preservation as well as table use)
Fruits
• 52 pints peaches
• 52 pints apple sauce
• 52 pints fruit cocktail
• 52 quarts apples (includes pies, etc.)
• 52 pints pears
• 104 pints misc. fruits
• 1 #10 can raisins
• 1 #10 can dehydrated strawberries
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated apple slices
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated banana slices
Vegetables
• 104 pints of green beans
• 104 pints of sweet corn
• 104 pints of carrots
• 104 quarts of tomatoes
• 104 pints of tomato sauce
• 104 half pints tomato paste
• 104 quarts of potatoes and/or 22 pounds instant potatoes
• 26 quarts of squash or pumpkin
• 26 pints beets
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated sweet corn
• 4 #10 cans dehydrated peas
• 1 #10 can dehydrated onions
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated broccoli
Pasta
•15 pounds spaghetti
•6 pounds assorted noodles
•6 pounds lasagna
Meat
• • 52 pints lean beef/venison roast
• 52 pints chicken/turkey
• 52 pints ham/fish/misc.
• 52 cans tuna
• 52 cans Spam
• 52 pints home canned hamburger for tacos, casseroles, etc.
• 1 #10 can ea. TVP (textured vegetable protein), bacon, chicken)
Seeds
A heavy selection of garden seeds to replenish your food supply, should the period of hard times last longer than a few months. Always opt for the worst and prepare ahead.
Most garden seeds last for years, if kept dry. One notable exception is onion seed, which should be replaced yearly.
Miscellaneous
• 1 pound baking soda
• 3 pounds baking powder
• 1 pound dry yeast
• spices usually used
• 25 dozen canning jar lids, wide mouth & regular
• coffee, tea, powdered drink mixes in sufficient quantity
• A grain mill to grind grains
• An Amish or other “cooking with basics” cookbook or two
• 1 gallon inexpensive pancake syrup
• An assortment of “treats”, such as pickles, jams, preserves
What a list!!
Only a couple comments - I always water down shampoo and dish soap to make it go further. I don't notice any difference - does the job just fine.
Regarding using iodized salt for preserving meat, all the recipes I've seen for making jerky (which my Boy Scout son loves to make) call for UN-iodized salt. Not sure why.
HOLY SURVIVOR, BATMAN !
That was quite a list...
Why..
... "73" rolls of toilet paper? =P
Freeze dried
I have like 2000 bucks worth of freeze dried "food" from the 1980's and it is holding up great. I opened a can of peaches.. they were pretty tasty with the adding of water... and a short waiting period.
The Revolution Continues at http://nationbuilder.org
How long does regular canned food last?
I stored about two weeks worth of canned goods a few years back.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
canned goods
are things best consumed within a year or two. Most would have a maximum shelf life of 5 years and the amount of nutritional value loss and spoilage would increase tremendously. I am going to build a solar food dehydrator as it offers the best long term food storage technique for food that we produce on our land (which is being transformed into a survival community). There are plans readily available over the internet. I am basing mine on plans for making one with cardboard, duct tape and a pane of glass except that I will use plywood.
What can't you do with duct tape? Great stuff.
Maybe I'll toss my cans out now.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
SUPPLIES
This is what a family of five would need for a year to survive. This article is from backwoods home magazine and is a little dated from the Y2K scare but has excellent info for anyone.
With commonsense planning, you can survive hard times By Jackie Clay
http://www.backwoodshome....
Walton feed also has some good info. http://waltonfeed.com/
My wife and I just recently purchased $1200 worth of supplies and it sure didn't buy much ! We will keep adding to our supplies as we can.
GOOD LUCK !
R Tucker
Thanks for the links HIGHLANDER but the
one for backwoodshome doesn't seem to work. I might try doing a search on their site.
No, the money doesn't go very far.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Here are...
... links to Jackie Clay's other advice articles on www.backwoodshome.com :
http://www.backwoodshome....
A pound a day
Should be more than enough.. but I would consult a mormon.
The Revolution Continues at http://nationbuilder.org
best way to store the
best way to store the following
wheat, which i've heard is hard to store with potential bug problems.
rice
water
and any others you feel you have advise for that could help your fellow countrymen.
thanks for your help.
For best results
on long term storage of rice and beans. Get some 5 or 6 gallon food grade plastic buckets with lids. Then stop by the local welding supply store and get a bottle of nitrogen and a short hose. Lay the hose into the bucket and open the valve enough to fill the bucket with nitrogen and then put your beans or rice into the bucket, turn off the gas and seal the bucket. When you go to use it, always dip from the top and never tilt the bucket as nitrogen is heavier than air and this will keep the nitrogen in the bucket.
That sounds pretty neat
I am going to have to remember this.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Do you have to show ID and give a DNA sample
to get a bottle of gas?
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
So far as I know
it is not a requirement and shouldn't be since nitrogen is an inert gas and poses no possibility for use in the making of explosive materials. Many auto shops now carry equipment for filling your tires with nitrogen as it is thought to extend tire life, improve tire performance and give a better and more responsive ride. If there is any requirement for id, other than normal business purposes ( you usually rent the tank and buy the gas), then perhaps a local tire shop could fill the buckets with nitrogen for you.
Just an afterthought
I have some buckets with nitrogen packed dried beans that are over 30 years old. I opened one recently and the beans were still edible and would sprout.
Mmmmm...
.. vintage beans! ;)
LOL!
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Hehe..
.. 1978 *was* a pretty good year. =P
How about airtight bagging
?
food hoarding and rancid rice
Only buy food you actually eat, keep it rotated and you should not have a "rancid rice" problem. It is a rookie mistake to buy a bunch of food and wind up throwing it away. That is like letting the Fed manage your food budget - lol! Lots of things can go wrong with long term food storage, but throwing it away because you bought a bunch of something you have never eaten and never intend to eat is perhaps the worst.
Learn the tricks Granny used, like bay leaves in with your flour to keep weevils out.
I'm a bulk food rookie all right
and my granny likes to take Mexican cruises, shoot tequila, and watch soaps. Not sure she knows what a bay leaf is.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
spice it up a bit.
pYou also want to be sure and get a stock of spices. Rice and beans are good with onions, peppers, garlic salt and an endless of recipes look them up.
Yes, exactly.
Just looking at rice/beans as a base.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
I find it difficult to ween
I find it difficult to ween myself off of white Thai jasmine rice and still keep quite a bit of it around. But in my search for a good brown rice. I managed to find an Organic brown Thai jasmine. It's pretty good, not as aromatic at the white but better than most other brown rices.
As for water filtration... every system has it's own degree of quality. If you want your water to really be clean you gotta filter it down to at least a reverse osmosis unit with preferably a .5 micron sediment filter and a .1 micron carbon filter. If you really wanna get crazy you can run your water threw an ultra violet filter and de-ionizing unit. If your water comes from a natural source then ultra violet may be necessary as well as an additional prefilter. Deionized water is the cleanest water but it isn't good to drink. Deionized water has so few minerals in it will actually strip your body of whatever it can absorb. Plus the deionizing unit itself is runs the water threw a positively and negatively charged resin bed which there is no telling what it'll do to ya if you drink it. Your fresh water fish will love it though and it works good for cleaning windows.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Hate to do a crappy post...
But how are you going to stock up for a decade?
Channel monies towards self-sufficiency if you are not in a crashproof job.
1 year of food x 10 ?
im trying to become a mini farmer. sadly im a couple of years out. i am hoping thats enough time.
E Pluribus Unum...
.....Out of many, one.
unless you can farm, there
unless you can farm, there is no way to prepare for a decade otherwise.
Pretty much
The other alternative is getting prepared to be a damn good looter.
How long do we really have?
I am getting to the point of total hysteria! I want to stock up on food, guns, ammo, water, tobacco, etc. I can only afford maybe $25 every 2 weeks. That sure won't buy very much. Are there still such things as co-ops that you can join and buy bulk? I am starting the garden, relearning how to can, and how to use the food dehydrator. Also want to buy a few chickens. I am just at a loss as to how to organanize all this fairly soon. I guess the thread about them collecting DNA from people is what set me off. A few calming words would be nice...lol! Oh, I am on well water that requires electricity, how can I change that?
Do you have friends or
Do you have friends or family with a rural home or farm? if you do.. i would talk to them. ask them if the chit hits the fan would you be welcome and tell them what you will bring.. I honestly feel with food riots in 31 countries around the world, and many countries banning the export of wheat and rice, that we may have till october/ late november..you never know... it could be longer.. but with the bank bailouts etc, both economically and socially with whats going on I would be very surprised to see it go past november and i would be very happy if it did! go to www.emergencyessentials.. they have great prices on storge food.. also www.freezedryguy.com he has great prices on mountain house freezedried food that is the absolute best in storage food! if you can only afford 50.00 per month, with the way inflation is raging in food- do you have anything you can trade or sell off? an extra car? tv. etc.. stuff you don't need? can you get an extra job? to maybe use that money to buy more per month? I would get as much as you can as quickly as you can.. if food is becoming scarce it will only be a matter of time till those monkies in DC start rationing! you watch! same with fuel! and please don't forget 90% pre 1964 silver US dimes.. real money!
As for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
It's hard to say how long we
It's hard to say how long we have for sure. Could be a few months or maybe a year or so. Just prioritize; the order is water, food, shelter, and self-defense, then gold/silver if possible. Bottling clean water now is easy and cheap. Beans and rice are the easiest and cheapest way to cover your main nutrition needs.
Alright what am I missing here?
I like to be prepared but what makes everybody think this is inevitable?
enlighten me.
Here is a great video to put
Here is a great video to put things in perspective. It doesn't explain everything, as there are economic principles involved as well, but you can at least see why things are inevitable...
http://video.google.ca/vi...
Thanks Sobrdup
I need time to absorb this perspective fully.
any other's?
Yep, this next link is to a
Yep, this next link is to a 5 part series on how our money system really works. After I watched it I understood just how right Ron Paul has always been...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
hard to say. could be fall
hard to say. could be fall of this year or next year. depends on how long the fed wants to prop up the house of cards.
at some point they won't be
at some point they won't be able to prop it up!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
We're starting to make
We're starting to make preparations for the worst right now. How about buying wheat grain for bread and how to prepare it? Any help is appreciated. We're also going to stock up on canned vegetables and rice. Any other food suggestions?
here ya go.... only
here ya go.... only 500.00///// much better than I thought!
http://beprepared.com/pro...
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
hey Bud! go to
hey Bud! go to www.emergencyessentials.c... they sell a years supply of wheat (for bread etc) and legumes for a family of 4 for 1 year i think its about 800.00 bucks.. this is a great place to buy!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
You need a grinder to make the wheat into flour
Kitchenaid has a wheat grinder attachment for their mixers. Wheat can also be soaked overnite and then boiled for a half hour or so and eaten as a hot cereal.
Lisa, go to
Lisa,
go to www.emergencyessentials.c... they have food programs for 1, 2 or a family of 4. this may give you an idea..
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Thanks SIERRA
will have to check if there any import restrictions into Oz.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com