Let us hope nothing happens to the pope while travelling to the States.
Posted April 17th, 2008 by iehuvihs
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Were something to happen to the pope it would not only draw support for the Iranian war from Catholics, but probably much of Europe. I don't like to be suspicious, but the timing of his trip is very key to what could lead to an attack on Iran. All they need to do is have some fanatic make an attack on the pope and connect them to Iran.
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Pees while he stands just like most other men.. Gosh Napoleon get over it already!
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Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Whew
What church or religion were those articles posted on? It seems they got right to the truth of things, where others fear to tread.
Here's One guy that's been talking about this for years
http://www.chick.com/defa...
by the way, I don't agree with everything on this website but he has a lot of information on this particular subject.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
right to the point, huh?
There are a few churches who believe this but don't make a huge thing about it because it can be so offensive. We all need to be informed, though, of anything that might have to do with the CFR, one world order, etc., don't you think?
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Yes, but like politicians
they lead their people astray. Where is that shining example of a leader that shares the truth to the people who look for a leader. We have Ron Paul, as a politician, but where are the spiritual leaders who dare to tell the truth?
That's why you can't trust in man
You must trust in God and stand alone with Him. Don't believe anyone unless you can see their fruits. Remember, you will know them by their fruits. Ron Paul is a perfect example of that.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Look to the east...
The Dalia Lama.
Well
I'm willing to stop but, my point was how influential, powerful and knowing he is. surely there must be some reasonable question's.
That's the Point
and the subject of this discussion should be changed to reflect that.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Come'n guys..
I know the Catholic religion isn't perfect...Neither are the Baptists or the Non-denominations with their speaking in tongue, or with those who follow televangelists...But I remember my grandparents walking blocks to go to mass on Sunday..EVERY Sunday and I remember all the works of charity they did....and the kindness they had toward all people.
This thread is breaking my heart to hear so many against the Catholics.
I personally don't have any feelings one way or another about the Pope..
The only leader of any religion that i think is respectable is the Dalia Lama.
So let's please drop this thread...It seems too divisive.
And it's hurting my feelings.
This is not against Catholics
We are discussing the administration of the church. It is like saying because we are challenging our administration we are talking bad about Americans. We have nothing against Catholics. I have wonderful friends that are dear Christians in the Catholic church. I am talking about who runs the show.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
no kat! : ) please dont be offended
they see it like we see our country- we LOVE the people who make it up- but take issue with how its run sometimes- that is all. Catholic people are some of the most wonderful giving people in the world and do so much for all causes. Its a mean spirit that insults loving people for the actions of a few. Like in comment sections where we all wring our hands over what people in our govt do - and read comments by people in other countries saying they hate Americans. Try not to be personally offended -our own experiences with those close to us form our opinions- it isnt an attack on your personal joy you find in who you are- but a misplaced anger toward the well publicised acts of a few. Some will say - we hate Americans because they can change what they know is wrong with the govt- but dont .We just each need to do what we know is right ourselves- be it 1 vote for Ron Paul- or 1 prayer for the crimes of certain church officials to be adressed and dealt with appropriatly. Dont be hurt : )
Laugh
I'm enjoying the comments here.
ironically
the pope is evil.did you know that almost all world legislation goes through the pope ? he owns england and the US.
The Vatican has gold in the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank!
There is a book, out of print I believe but I have it, called "The Vatican Empire" written by Nino Lo Bello. He says exactly what you are saying. He said, among many other things, that the Vatican owns gold in the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. The church was extremely broke until 1929 when Mussolini gave it, I believe, $29 million. Since then they have wisely invested it and have quite a little empire. The author found this out while staying in Rome writing for something else. He found out that the Vatican owns the electric company and he went from there. That's why I believe the Pope has too much influence and that is not a good thing. Lo Bello stated that "this venerable organization is one of the greatest fiscal powers of the world." This was back in 1968! Do you think Bush is asking him for money? He also stated that the Vatican is "the only sovereign state that never publishes a budget, the Vatican is the one organized church that keeps its money affairs strictly to itself."
Ok, what's scary is that I am rereading through the book as I am writing this. I believe it was providential for me to do it. Do you think I should post this as another subject because of its importance? Listen to a paragraph from it:
"In the course of his career, Nogara (he was the finance officer for the vatican) had become a specialist in gold. Thus for a considerable period after he took over the Special Administration, he engaged in the trading of gold bullion for gold coins and gold coins for gold bullion in deals that, without precise details, defy understanding of anything but the fact that most of them were profitable. His confidence in the precious metal virtually unshakable, the canny Nogar SPENT $26.8 MILLION TO BUY GOLD FROM THE UNITED STATES AT THE OFFICIAL RATE OF $35 PER FINE TROY OUNCE, PLUS .25 PERCENT FOR HANDLING CHARGES....The Vatican gold, which is in the shape of ingots, is on deposit with the U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK."
So, you see, the plot thickens and so does the book. It outlines the web they have been weaving since Nogara's time to be involved in all of the financial world affiars.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
oh my..St Malachy
the 12th? century seer of the sucsession of all of history's popes (identifying them with what some would say is uncanny accuracy) counted them out with the present one being the last before an "evil" and final pope before the end of days. His life as far as im concerned is of no greater value than anyone who lives down my street- but his death- whenever it may come- will have many on edge. Im not one to see anything more in the writings of folks like Nostradamus than I do the poetry of Jim Morrison but St Malachy is acknowledged by the church herself- up until now anyway- (who wants to be the next "evil and last" pope?) When this pope goes- and may he live as long as anyone- The EndTimers will outnumber the "RickRollers" 20:1 on YouTube. http://www.catholic-pages... - did a paper on Estachology in college : )
wow, that's interesting
Have you ever read the book "The Jesuits" by Malachi Martin? He is a devout Catholic who says the head of the Jesuits, the Black Pope, actually has a lot more influence than realized and it is not a good thing. Maybe this is what is going on behind closed doors. Hmmm, seems like a good plot for a book.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
I think the pope
is on a sudden business trip here trying to salvage his corporation. Let's see in the coming days if he is successful at it.
SCREW THE POPE! i don't
SCREW THE POPE! i don't give a rats tail about that pompace idiot
the catholic church is a joke! sorry if any of you are catholic.. but you need to wake up!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Geez..Sierra..
Lighten up...I was raised catholic...
sorry Kat but that moron is
sorry Kat but that moron is part of the one worlders too... he is a liar.. I hate people who lie!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
.... only an option if you
.... only an option if you are a cute altar boy.
lol.......AKAK.... you have
lol.......AKAK.... you have an awnry streak!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Well, it's funny, but I grew
Well, it's funny, but I grew up in a Catholic (but NOT Roman Catholic) church in which ALL the priests, as far as I ever saw, were married, and interestingly, there was never a single case of child abuse or pedophilia in all the dozens of parishes in the church in its 100-year history. Yep, just coincidence, I'm sure.
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I somewhat see your point
Actually I don't see it as a problem. All the Leaders of Nations go to the pope to look good of course. Why would this be used as the reason to attack Iran?
my thought: This neighborhood is full of Catholics, always has been. The pope is a fake! My Catholic neighbor is an atheist.
update: this so-called religion used to martyr "Real" Christians cause they found out that the re-written bible of the catholics was a fake. The catholic re-written version set up their church leaders on a pedestal, of course, so they could be the big-wigs, big-shots, hero's, etc.
Good documentary on PBS about this fake religion.
I heard the next pope was
I heard the next pope was supposed to be the false prophet which is the buddy of the anti christ. I would hope this jerk lives alot longer because the next one is supposedly the last one according to some self proclaimed prophets. Oh and to be honest the PAPACY is anything but a religion. I would say the PAPACY is the old roman government as far as the ROMAN court back then. So We could be safe to assume that CEASAR has graced warlord bush with his presence.
That is a whole 'nother subject
The history of the Catholic church is wrought with intrigue and has been a huge influence in world affairs; most of the time not for good. Even Martin Luther called the Pope the antichrist and was not kidding. So, I want to reiterate my thoughts, why are we giving the Pope so much credence?
This is not Catholic bashing so please forgive me if you think it is. This is questioning a system just like questioning Bush and our administration is not bashing Americans.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
He belongs in the Middle
He belongs in the Middle East with the way he dresses...white dress. Why would a man wear a white dress in the first place, he's not an Arab. He's an abomination as far as I'm concerned.
Interesting that Brown is here too. I see them transporting suitcases of money back and forth.
Well..
I have to think the Pope is privy to all world affairs considering his influence.
Well, I would wonder
why the Pope is here in the first place. Why is a leader of a religion given so much influence in world affairs? I don't care what religion he represents, he is not the leader of a country but a religion and the United States has no business making a big deal out of it. Our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Oddly enough, he is a leader of a country.
Vatican City is a sovereign nation. They have their own stamps and passports.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
That could be a subject
for a very long discussion in the future. What kind of power warrents such a unique status of being a sovereign nation in the middle of a another country?
And presumably,
And presumably, no laws against pedophilia!
Vatican City is a sovereign nation?
That certainly is different. He still isn't someone that should have the influence he does over our leaders. Sure, he is probably a very nice person, what do I know, but no religious figure should be influencing our president; that is a serious conflict.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
No of course not
But why spend his birthday here?
Why show up on Tax day for American's?
As a former Catholic, I don't think you'll find too many
American Catholics willing to go to war over the death of the Pope. Where was the war after Pope John Paul was shot? Wasn't the guy Palestinian or Turkish? I forget.
I was in Spain when John Paul died and I fully expected the country to be totally shut down the next day in mourning. Nope. Business as usual.
But, yes, I agree, I hope nothing happens to the Pope or anyone else for that matter.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Never thought of that...
Never thought of that...
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