Dr. Steve Parent a blackops agent??
Posted April 17th, 2008 by cam.shane
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I have nothing against anyone but am curious as to anyones opinions.
Intending to get some sort of trouble stirred up in front of the riot police??
Just curious, but why didn't SGP answer when he was asked what meetup he is in???
Why didn't he answer when he was asked if he helped organize a county for Ron Paul??
This is not an accusation.. just a vigilante asking questions.
Yes I am a county organizer, delegate and in the RonPaul26 meetup among many others.
Steve Parents Response
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
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yeah he's evil let's kill him
He want's freedom just as much as anyone stop being silly !
blackops agent? NO
Fortune Favors the Bold
we wouldn't have been able to succeed in the delegate process as we have without Steve's help.
Now, he admits he used to be an organizer for the DNC. It occurred to me, maybe he still is. Trying to hurt the GOP by helping us.
Even IF that's the case, it's irrelevant. As long as the information he provides us is accurate, he is a great asset.
Don't care!!!!! Hasn't this
Don't care!!!!!
Hasn't this whole thing been done to DEATH? Ughhh ....
Of course it has...
Here, on RPForums, etc,etc, ad nauseum.
However, I've noticed that if you don't keep at least one steve parent thread going, he starts a new martyr post to feed off of for the day.
So this one might as well float for awhile.
We don't need
Anymore martyr posts, those are just spam :-P
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I noticed that!!
I noticed that!!
Not a blackop.. that's silly.
An opportunist, is all. Of course, that is merely my opinion. If you don't think so, feel free to throw money at his chipin.
I think he started out well, got popular and is now cashing in.
He can't do much else.. he's not a delegate and isn't in the country.
Besides, he still has that pesky 5k phonebill to pay...lol.
Had to repost a little of this.. I had a much better critisism written last night on another thread... but he deleted the thread and reposted it rather than reply.
Devon you are a damn liar.
Devon you are a damn liar.
Opportunist? How so?
What post did i delete? I do not delete posts.
My phone bill is paid thank you.
Are you a delegate? and what meetup are you in?
We already know Jenjemi is not a delegate so what about yourself?
Dr. Steve Parent
"Dr." ... leave my name out
"Dr." ... leave my name out of your posts. You know damn well why I'm not a delegate, so don't try to add your little spin to make it appear that I am a troll or otherwise not devoted to this campaign.
Ohhhh puhleese!!
This thread has to be a joke. No thinking person could seriously believe SGP is "suspect". Get a grip and find a hobby!!
Too many people on here only want to criticise the efforts of others. SGP, DaddyWarBucks (where is he these days anyway?), GrannyWarrior, are a few being subjected to unbelievable criticism. Is it jealousy? What is your problem???
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Original post has added link
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I'd prefer Grey-Ops
(Firefly and GreyFox are badasses)
oh oh!
I wanna be a blue-ops agent!
Thanks for all the feedback
From everyone. Just thinking about the future.
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funny comment
The Fed had dirtier things to do than think about this forum and the people on it, for now. He seems well-intentioned, but just an ego centric, holier than thou kind of guy. He lost me a long time ago (not the Doc). I don't like being told that I need to be 'educated' and led around - I am quite capable, thank you.
good grief!
come on buddy - this paranoia is really getting weird.
steve parent is on the level. it's my gut response.
and from listening to hin for hours.
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This is a great site most of the time...
Most times it is very informative. If I were what you all call an op or a plant sent to disrupt, I would have the easiest job one could be assigned. I would never have to type much of anything. I could sit back, drink some coffee, maybe fart a few times and take a big sniff to entertain myself and glance over to see if it nailed my partner, read the some of the ridiculous comments posted here, and watch a handful of ridiculously paranoid minds do all the dividing for me. This group often becomes its own perpetrator and its own victim simultaneously. What a phenomenon. Clear your minds people, get on with the task at hand. Stay focused.
TOO FUNNY!!!! With a useful
TOO FUNNY!!!!
With a useful comment... Stay focused!
Yeah!
Now move on to important issues
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Any one of us could be a blackops agent.
Even going back to the founding fathers. Some people theorise that some of the original "Revolutionaries" were acting in accordance to the Crown of England.
Any one of us could be a blackops agent.
Even going back to the founding fathers. Some people theorise that some of the original "Revolutionaries" were acting in accordance to the Crown of England.
Any one of us could be a blackops agent.
Even going back to the founding fathers. Some people theorise that some of the original "Revolutionaries" were acting in accordance to the Crown of England.
Any one of us could be a blackops agent.
Even going back to the founding fathers. Some people theorise that some of the original "Revolutionaries" were acting in accordance to the Crown of England.
Any one of us could be a blackops agent.
Even going back to the founding fathers. Some people theorise that some of the original "Revolutionaries" were acting in accordance to the Crown of England.
The R3VOLUTION <3's SGP!!
The R3VOLUTION <3's SGP!!
The Proof is in the Pudding
Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Revolution Scattering - Ron Paul Can Still Fix This - Act Now!!!
Steve Parent is doing what he believes is the way forward. I am doing what I believe is the way, and so on.
Unfortunately the Revolution is scattering and fragmenting. I do not think your should blame any single individual in the movement for this. People are doing what they can - salute that!
There is one man who can align this and make the revolution pull strongly in one direction, but lately this person has not been up to the task.
I hate to say this, but if anyone should be put to blame it is Dr. Ron Paul himself - for making that (excuse my language) stu#¤%&# video released in March where he could be said to pretty much call off the revolution.
There are many Ron Paul supporters who where very very very discouraged by that video. One of my viewers described it as a "slap in the face", and I will agree.
Here on DailyPaul.com we love the doctor so much we do not want to criticize him, and I hate to do so myself. Why don't people speak up about this problem here on DailyPaul? For a long time I hoped that Dr. Paul would make it right by realizing his mistake and make a new video encouraging the supporters. That would have fixed it. But he has not, there has been no new video from Dr. Paul since that March video.
I can forgive Dr. Paul for making a mistake in the first place in the March video. But, not fixing it with a new message is a even bigger mistake than the initial mistake - that is almost unforgivable...
It is still not to late, I hope his advisor's read these comments here on DailyPaul.
A new great patriotic mega-viral video with encouragement, solid strategy outline and some strong leadership is needed - fast.
Here's a repost
I have been saying...
On April 9th, 2008 say yes2yes says:
all along that there is no strategy to this campaign, and that we need one desperately. What we have is an assortment of tactics, and each one is good in its own place (most notably Steve Parent's contribution), and needful, but all these together they do not constitute an authentic, workable Strategy.
Ron Paul is the visionary and spiritual leader of this Movement, and we need to respect him for having a track record of accomplishment and character we all need to try to live up to. But with all due respect, he is not a strategist.
The momentum of the RP Movement in 2007 was due to spontaneous enthusiasm, and it was a powerful, awesome thing. But the cold reality of vote tampering and the dulling effect of the media blackout in 2008 have taken their toll on the momentum of this campaign, and no amount of bravado and happy talk can make that go away.
What is needed now is a big-picture Strategy that not only incorporates all the tactics that are now at work, and that reflects the interests of all concerned, all those who have a stake in this political enterprise, but one that also deals with related issues such as: What happens if the currency crashes in the next few months? And what do we do about the inevitable vote tampering in November? Just to name a couple of the more visible threats...
Until there is a comprehensive answer to all these issues, and one that can be seen on its face to be sensible and workable, we have no Strategy worthy of the word...period. That is why the conversations on this site lately have been so fragmented and all over the map. People sense something is wrong, but have not known what it is. Now they do.
There is a need for executive leadership in this Movement.
It's neither disloyal or disrepectful to offer intelligent constructive criticism where it's needed. Comments such as the one above have been offered time and again here, and have either been ignored, or answered with talk of what can be done, if not by November, then at least in the long run—though all the evidence of what's happening around us makes you wonder why some think there's going to be a "long run" in our future.
What we need to get hold of here is the idea that Dr. Paul has said all along that this initiative is ours; we need to get it done. He's offered the vision of restoration, but not the strategic plan. He is not a "nuts and bolts" get it done sort of fellow, apparently. Nothing wrong with that. The mistake is to have assumed that he is...
Truth hurts
Dr. Paul described it something like this.. A Revolution is a longterm effort.
In other words "Buckle up" find a place to be effective and pace your efforts.
Thanks for the thoughts
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I think..
.. Dr. Paul and the Campaign have been very clear in what they are asking us to do. It's just that some people and groups within the movement insist that Dr. Paul is speaking in Secret Code sneakily instructing us on how to pull off a "Last-Minute Super-Stealth Hail-Mary for the Nomination and Victory!".
The only problem is that if you take Dr. Paul's and his son's words at face value you walk away with a completely different message.
Dr. Paul's has been asking us to become part of the GOP process for the LONG TERM. To be genial and friendly with GOP members with the hope of convincing the old Reaganites in the party (and there are many of them) that we share the same vision and message of conservatism with them. And that the Neocons are nothing but ultra-liberal ex-trotskyite communists who Reagan despised and who have hijacked the party by lies and propaganda with the goal of establishing a global empire.
Dr. Paul has been clearly stating over and over that he wants to work within the party and wants to elect as many "Ron Paul Republicans" to office as possible.
Political parties are private clubs that are all about coalition building. Plans by certain groups and personalities to "revolt" at the convention are ANATHEMA and diametrically opposed to any coalition building. Matter of fact, that would result in exactly the opposite of coalition building and would only make sense if the plan was to break away from the GOP and form another party.
Some people are frustrated that Dr. Paul's prospects for being president this time around don't look so hopeful. In response they are grasping at straws and looking for a Hollywood "BraveHeart" moment for themselves by "revolting". Working within the party for the long-term is too boring and anti-climactic for them. They need that Hollywood fix by having their emotions resolved in less than two hours.
I suppose it would feel good to loudly make a statement in public by "revolting" akin to William Wallace screaming "freeeedddoooommmm!" but then again real-life is not a Hollywood movie. But none of this would help the cause of libertarianism and true conservatism within the GOP. It would only serve the purpose of momentary catharsis while at the same time destroying much of the work Dr. Paul has been doing and has been asking us to do.
Barry Goldwater laid the libertarian foundation for the "Reagan Revolution" that occurred 20 something years later. There is nothing wrong with Dr. Paul being our new Goldwater. Nothing shameful. And CERTAINLY not some kind of "failure".
Perhaps Dr. Paul is speaking in "Secret Code". Or perhaps he is being open and precise in his words when describing his chosen plan. If so, then those who choose to work towards "revolt" are actually working against Dr. Paul's efforts.
I for one am sick and tired of myself and others being branded traitors, shills, demonic, and "McCain supporters" for choosing to interpret Dr. Paul's words according to their clear face-value meaning instead of as some "Secret Code" that actually instructs us to do the opposite.
we'll soon have bigger fish to fry martfuncher
ill probably take a hit with you but i have come to same conclusion,,,so why do i still come here, im not sure. there is no finer or deserving statesman than Dr. Paul and he will always always have my support if he asks for it, but the narrow window of opportunity we had as a nation to get him nominated has passed. that would only have occured if the vast majority of sheeples had awoken in time and came together as a nation to take back our country and that didnt happen. the elitists have planned the total takeover of the country for a very long time now.they have always feared our numbers, but divided and conquered this country a very long time ago....the present candidates are bought and paid for, the plans are layed ,neither Dr. Paul nor any other honest man will be allowed to enter presidential office...soon i do believe that either the economic collapse or a false flag event will occur and country will be thrust into martial law, soon if will become a matter of shere survival for us and our families...the government has not inserted 6 million foreign troops on our soil for nothing....wake up people!!!!!
Exactly..
I keep looking at how fast things have been happening these past few years and it makes me wonder if I should be moving south...far south.
And then I wonder if that will only be buying a little time.
Here here!
I'm with you bro. My main focuses are 1) becoming self-reliant and 2) supporting Ron Paul Republicans and waking up as many Reaganites in the GOP as possible.
I can handle the "hits". I wonder if they can... >;)
I second that here here...
Hope and betrayal are very strong emotions that tend to distract people from our main goal of restoring our personal liberties. One person may lead the charge initially, but we as individuals are responsible to also lead. Like it or not we allowed this to happen to us and now we must do everything in our power to communicate and educate people to turn this around. So if someone wants to throw stones at me I will let you know in advance I will only find a way to make good use of them.
Hehe @ "stone re-use" =)
*hugs@peg*
Do you remember this?
No man is an island
No man is an island,
No man stands alone,
Each man's joy is joy to me,
Each man's grief is my own.
We need one another,
So I will defend,
Each man as my brother,
Each man as my friend.
I saw the people gather,
I heard the music start,
The song that they were singing,
Is ringing in my heart.
No man is an island,
Way out in the blue,
We all look to the one above,
For our strength to renew.
When I help my brother,
Then I know that I,
Plant the seed of friendship,
That will never die.
I cheated...
.. and googled it.. Joan Baez. =P
I was more of a Led Zeppelin type back in the day. But those are good lyrics. =)
: )
Yes Joan Baez, I was into Zeppelin and Floyd, and many others but I remember this from graduation and it popped into my head and so did Bill Withers classic Lean on Me. My mind always refers to music in almost every situation.
I am...
.. listening to Pink Floyd - Meddle album as I type this. (=
Nice...This is for all our troops.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
its hard to fault their loyalty
but there comes a time one has to start dealing with reality. im also doing my best to become self sufficient,,,single mom here with five kids, im trying to do everything in my power to keep up alive and safe these next few years and i got to tell you i am so frightened. just a year ago i lived in large city, had pretty good paying job as a nurse, fancy apartment, gas guzzling car etc , but i came to believe there was no longer little if any healing in the medical field, totally controlled by big pharma intent on killing us off,,,,i really do believe that...so took a small bit of savings, moved to upstate new york, found small cheap house to rent on about an acre of land, and im tilling the garden this weekend. i dont think i could live any simpler than i do and the boys have adjusted to rural life, and playing outside in nature very well.we are within walking distance of the bay for fishing, and the area is filled with deer if it comes to that. my heart goes out to those in the city , especially those that wont listen to the warnings, theyre not going to make it. i do my best to warn people , i am so over worrying if ill be laughed at or not but of late i am more wary about who i talk to. the check points here are becoming more regular with para millitary type police pulling people over and so on, getting us use to the drills i suppose.i doubt i need to tell you but just in case,hide your supplies in several different areas and tell no one where they are. i hope we all make it , but i know we wont
Oops..
.. i referred to you as bro! =P
Sis! =)
Very cool, alienlve .... I
Very cool, alienlve .... I commend you for getting out of the city. I'm thinking about doing the same thing (I'm near Detroit now) and going back to where I grew up (northern MN). Your story is inspiring for me!
Brrrr...
.. Minnesota ;)
You're not kidding, Mart!
You're not kidding, Mart! The winters do get long - and very cold - no doubt about it. The beautiful summers and the gorgeous geography make up for it though, IMO :-)
thank you for comment
really if you can make than option for yourself , do it and do it soon, put in a garden asap in either event. i firmly believe it wont become a matter of how expensive food will be but if there will be enough food. i never much paid attention to my mom when i was growing up to learn how to can, but ive been reading up and found lots of websites on canning so i can handle that now, and bought several cases of canning jars i found on sale. the cities are going to be chaos , stores normally carry only three day supply of food, fema camps were' nt built for nothing. you have a good shot at making it in minnesota but i think your chances in detroit are not so good. please give it careful thought and dont wait too long........
Living...
.. in hurricane country you learn that the grocery stores and gas stations can empty in LESS than one day, on just a scare.
you know , your right
at least larger stores tell theres three days supplies . i did use to live in florida panhandle and if you didnt get to store the first day of official warning, you could be outta luck. my big expenditure is berkey water filter, i have to buy bottled water where i live anyhow so it should pay for itself before long plus i know there wont be fluoride and other contaminents in it. christ, i never thought i become damn survivalist in my golden years !