in April the Chairman announced that delegate elections would be held at the next meeting in May. Following is a copy of the minutes I received today: Lori noted that the State Convention will be held June 19-21. The committee pays for four delegates to go to the convention, and these were elected last spring when the new board was elected. This was not what was said at all! We do have several witnesses. Isn't this somehow against the law? Lady
pull out the Constitution- ALL of the documents that this great nation was founded on and show the the parts where we are implored to relenquish power - by force if necessary - to prevent the destruction of liberty- and ask them "what circumstances do YOU people think the founding fathers were referring to? What exactly do you think would warrant such action? What CAN you people do that would cross that line? What havent you done that the founding fathers instructed us to rebel against?".
...there needs to be a mass exodus of registered Republican voters reregistering as Independents! We need to show the GOP that they need us. I sincerely hope that the GOP falls apart! They make me sick.
As an independent Baptist preacher, I learned a long time ago that you cannot resurrect a dead, liberal, Baptist Convention that disrespects its rule of law - the Bible. Likewise, a political convention that disrespects its rule of law - the Republican Convention Rules is hopeless and cannot be salvaged.
I think Ron Paul supporters ought to continue doing what they can in the remaining primaries and delegation battles, but ultimately, the GOP WILL NOT allow a takeover (restoration) of the party.
I've been saying this for months now, we need the biggest, most dedicated, aggressive, grassroots, groundswelling revolution ever seen in the political history of America to vault Ron Paul beyond the denial of the press in a nation-sweeping write-in vote for President of the United States.
However, as glorious as that would be, I do not know if that would work because I do not know how the Electoral College will respond to a write-in candidate who wins the majority vote.
Does anybody know how the Electoral College would treat a write-in candidate winner???
Probably nothing will come of it, but I emailed every news spot I could telling them the GOP was breaking its own rules and subverting democracy. I linked this youtube video and made no mention of Ron Paul. Regardless of the supporters, this is big, and I hope some news office runs with it, if even only because they are liberally-biased.
THIS IS THE MOST HORRIBLE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT CAN HAPPEN....cause if this type of stuff happens at state or even national....we will be left with ....one option....civil war or no more freedoms..
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
I just listened to this...that's it. The gloves are off, baby.
And to think that this is happening in several places all over the country. I am TOTALLY sending this to the InSane supporters I know -- mostly, they are "mature" people who consider themselves loyal Republicans, and believe that they should support InSane because he is the pick of the party, and they trust that the party "knows best."
Wait'll these people hear what their party has to resort to in order to get their anointed candidate nominated!!
I think it's time to take a page from how the Native Americans do it... our Tribal Council and General Council meetings are run by Robert's Rules as well.
If this had happened at General Council the speaker would have been rushed and beaten.
This is the reason we are now checked at the door for knives and weapons... there have been a few stabbings and a shooting or two...lol.
However, a stage rush and a good pummeling woulda been the order of the day the way we do things.
I agree. I kept feeling that had I been there, I would have been so outraged that I wouldn't have been able to stop myself from just walking up there and putting my boot in that chairman's face. This will eventually break down into violence. Rule of Law has all but vanished. What is there left but the Law of the Jungle?
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
I told you once before, my wife is native american. Our family meeting is run by Sherry's Rules. It's funny you mention the working of your Tribal Council to be so, because every time I disagree with my wife, it seems I am rushed and beaten. She claims she doesn't speak her native language, but I have absolutely no idea what the hell she is saying when she goes on the war path. I now know that one lone Indian woman can gain the vocal respect of an entire pack of hunting coyotes. I respect this.... I run swiftly.... and stay stealthy for many days...
For all of those who think the old Native American lifestyle was really the guys out hunting and fishing and the women hanging out and doing the grunt work, try marrying one. ;)
We have some pretty famous female WarChiefs, for instance.
My personal viewpoint is why live with a mouse when you can live with a lioness.
So I feel your pain... and share in your blessings.
I get the feeling 95% of the country could vote RP and theyd still rig the election. Things could get really ugly soon. All of you paranoid militia survivalists out there very well may be seeing your ideologies en vogue before you know it.
Like the hippies used to say: If you're not paranoid, you are not paying attention. Jinc, you and I are on the same team but survival is not an ideology, and please, for the love of God, don't liken it to pop culture("en vogue"). Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!
What happened at the Nueces County Convention was absolutely egregious and nauseating.
For those who haven't seen the video, unapproved delegates were added to the delegate list for the state convention. When some wary and informed attendees became aware of the situation, they called "point of order" which means that an error has been made. To do so, one can simply stand and interrupt whatever or whoever is speaking at the time and the chairman must acknowledge the whistle-blower.
However, when a large group of people became aware of the errors of the man reading the list of (unapproved) delegates, the chairman, Mike Bertuzzi, completely disregarded the crowd and approve the list of delegates even as many members of the crowd protested.
A sergeant of arms then dragged members out of the convention.
The Corpus Christi Caller - Times "reported" on the convention's hijacking. However, they sided with Bertuzzi and framed us as the hijackers even though Bertuzzi was the perpe"traitor".
What happened at the Nueces County Convention was absolutely nauseating. For those who haven't seen the video, unapproved delegates were added to the delegate list for the state convention. When some wary and informed attendees became aware of the situation, they called "point of order" which means that an error has been made. To do so, one can simply stand and interrupt whatever or whoever is speaking at the time and the chairman must acknowledge the whistle-blower.
However, when a large group of people became aware of the errors of the man reading the list of (unapproved) delegates, the chairman, Mike Bertuzzi, completely disregarded the crowd and approve the list of delegates even as many members of the crowd protested.
A sergeant of arms then dragged members out of the convention.
The Corpus Christi Caller - Times "reported" on the convention's hijacking. However, they sided with Bertuzzi and framed us as the hijackers even though Bertuzzi was the perpe"traitor".
I replied to you comment on this in the other thread, but thought i 'd repost that response here.
On April 20th, 2008 wninja says:
Fucking unreal!!!! If i see this shit happen at state I'm rushing the stage and unconsciousing the chairman. The convention will not continue. period.
(gawdamit!!! i really did not want to have to go to jail, particularly one thats five freakin' counties away. Oh well, at least I'll make headlines...:\)
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
I mean its not like your brining a weapon or trying to kill someone...
If you know your just attempting to follow the rules, and not doing it for power or fame....then you should be ok.....Its just about getting people like that to step off their false ego's and resume working with the group the correct way...no hard feelings....
do to the chairmans power. Lol, I have a feeling if I ran across the room and hit him a few times his power trip would leave imediately. If not I would let him know I am coming back for more. We must set things straight it is our duty and if we don't make them be just and follow their rules then no one will.
Well i have no intention of intimidating I'm going to be as brief and succinct as possible. I'll either throw him off the stage, kick him in the head, or throw on a sleeper and try to do so before I get mobbed and riot breaks out. But I have this ill feeling like I'm going to get tasered for this. And then there's the jail time and legal hassle... You know any good attorneys willing to work pro bono?
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
At My Last CC Meeting
in April the Chairman announced that delegate elections would be held at the next meeting in May. Following is a copy of the minutes I received today: Lori noted that the State Convention will be held June 19-21. The committee pays for four delegates to go to the convention, and these were elected last spring when the new board was elected. This was not what was said at all! We do have several witnesses. Isn't this somehow against the law? Lady
I just want to sit down with this administration
pull out the Constitution- ALL of the documents that this great nation was founded on and show the the parts where we are implored to relenquish power - by force if necessary - to prevent the destruction of liberty- and ask them "what circumstances do YOU people think the founding fathers were referring to? What exactly do you think would warrant such action? What CAN you people do that would cross that line? What havent you done that the founding fathers instructed us to rebel against?".
As soon as the National Convention is over...
...there needs to be a mass exodus of registered Republican voters reregistering as Independents! We need to show the GOP that they need us. I sincerely hope that the GOP falls apart! They make me sick.
As an independent Baptist preacher, I learned a long time ago that you cannot resurrect a dead, liberal, Baptist Convention that disrespects its rule of law - the Bible. Likewise, a political convention that disrespects its rule of law - the Republican Convention Rules is hopeless and cannot be salvaged.
I think Ron Paul supporters ought to continue doing what they can in the remaining primaries and delegation battles, but ultimately, the GOP WILL NOT allow a takeover (restoration) of the party.
I've been saying this for months now, we need the biggest, most dedicated, aggressive, grassroots, groundswelling revolution ever seen in the political history of America to vault Ron Paul beyond the denial of the press in a nation-sweeping write-in vote for President of the United States.
However, as glorious as that would be, I do not know if that would work because I do not know how the Electoral College will respond to a write-in candidate who wins the majority vote.
Does anybody know how the Electoral College would treat a write-in candidate winner???
I'd sure like some reliable facts on this.
Nothing leads me to believe
Nothing leads me to believe anything will be done fairly, equitably, or properly :(
Digg this up!
http://digg.com/2008_us_e...
Suggest this to all media outlets
Probably nothing will come of it, but I emailed every news spot I could telling them the GOP was breaking its own rules and subverting democracy. I linked this youtube video and made no mention of Ron Paul. Regardless of the supporters, this is big, and I hope some news office runs with it, if even only because they are liberally-biased.
PEOPLE WE MUST HAVE A PLAN B WHEN THE CHAIRMAN BREAKS THE RULES
THIS IS THE MOST HORRIBLE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT CAN HAPPEN....cause if this type of stuff happens at state or even national....we will be left with ....one option....civil war or no more freedoms..
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
see this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
too bad Ron Paul isnt black
we could really use Reverand Al about now.
Alan Keyes is quite similar
Alan Keyes is quite similar to Ron Paul... http://www.alankeyes.com/ I still prefer Ron Paul over all others, though.
Sick To My Stomach
I just listened to this...that's it. The gloves are off, baby.
And to think that this is happening in several places all over the country. I am TOTALLY sending this to the InSane supporters I know -- mostly, they are "mature" people who consider themselves loyal Republicans, and believe that they should support InSane because he is the pick of the party, and they trust that the party "knows best."
Wait'll these people hear what their party has to resort to in order to get their anointed candidate nominated!!
GRRRRRR!!!!
Damn, this is unbelievable.
Damn, this is unbelievable.
DAmn.
I think it's time to take a page from how the Native Americans do it... our Tribal Council and General Council meetings are run by Robert's Rules as well.
If this had happened at General Council the speaker would have been rushed and beaten.
This is the reason we are now checked at the door for knives and weapons... there have been a few stabbings and a shooting or two...lol.
However, a stage rush and a good pummeling woulda been the order of the day the way we do things.
I agree. I kept feeling
I agree. I kept feeling that had I been there, I would have been so outraged that I wouldn't have been able to stop myself from just walking up there and putting my boot in that chairman's face. This will eventually break down into violence. Rule of Law has all but vanished. What is there left but the Law of the Jungle?
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
PEOPLE WE MUST HAVE A PLAN B WHEN THE CHAIRMAN BREAKS THE RULES
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
see this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
Devon
I told you once before, my wife is native american. Our family meeting is run by Sherry's Rules. It's funny you mention the working of your Tribal Council to be so, because every time I disagree with my wife, it seems I am rushed and beaten. She claims she doesn't speak her native language, but I have absolutely no idea what the hell she is saying when she goes on the war path. I now know that one lone Indian woman can gain the vocal respect of an entire pack of hunting coyotes. I respect this.... I run swiftly.... and stay stealthy for many days...
It may be genetic
For all of those who think the old Native American lifestyle was really the guys out hunting and fishing and the women hanging out and doing the grunt work, try marrying one. ;)
We have some pretty famous female WarChiefs, for instance.
My personal viewpoint is why live with a mouse when you can live with a lioness.
So I feel your pain... and share in your blessings.
Lol
Amen. Hail to the lioness.
My heart sank watching this
I get the feeling 95% of the country could vote RP and theyd still rig the election. Things could get really ugly soon. All of you paranoid militia survivalists out there very well may be seeing your ideologies en vogue before you know it.
Paranoid!?!
Like the hippies used to say: If you're not paranoid, you are not paying attention. Jinc, you and I are on the same team but survival is not an ideology, and please, for the love of God, don't liken it to pop culture("en vogue"). Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!
Scoundrels
This crap has Karl Rove written all over it.
Treason!
What happened at the Nueces County Convention was absolutely egregious and nauseating.
For those who haven't seen the video, unapproved delegates were added to the delegate list for the state convention. When some wary and informed attendees became aware of the situation, they called "point of order" which means that an error has been made. To do so, one can simply stand and interrupt whatever or whoever is speaking at the time and the chairman must acknowledge the whistle-blower.
However, when a large group of people became aware of the errors of the man reading the list of (unapproved) delegates, the chairman, Mike Bertuzzi, completely disregarded the crowd and approve the list of delegates even as many members of the crowd protested.
A sergeant of arms then dragged members out of the convention.
The Corpus Christi Caller - Times "reported" on the convention's hijacking. However, they sided with Bertuzzi and framed us as the hijackers even though Bertuzzi was the perpe"traitor".
http://www.caller.com/new...
The question is what can WE do to bring attention to this injustice and fix it?
Treason!
What happened at the Nueces County Convention was absolutely nauseating. For those who haven't seen the video, unapproved delegates were added to the delegate list for the state convention. When some wary and informed attendees became aware of the situation, they called "point of order" which means that an error has been made. To do so, one can simply stand and interrupt whatever or whoever is speaking at the time and the chairman must acknowledge the whistle-blower.
However, when a large group of people became aware of the errors of the man reading the list of (unapproved) delegates, the chairman, Mike Bertuzzi, completely disregarded the crowd and approve the list of delegates even as many members of the crowd protested.
A sergeant of arms then dragged members out of the convention.
The Corpus Christi Caller - Times "reported" on the convention's hijacking. However, they sided with Bertuzzi and framed us as the hijackers even though Bertuzzi was the perpe"traitor".
http://www.caller.com/new...
The question is what can WE do to bring attention to this injustice and fix it?
There must be something that
There must be something that can be done to make things right in Nueces County.
That convention sounded more like a dictatorship.
Deplorable.
I replied to you comment on
I replied to you comment on this in the other thread, but thought i 'd repost that response here.
On April 20th, 2008 wninja says:
Fucking unreal!!!! If i see this shit happen at state I'm rushing the stage and unconsciousing the chairman. The convention will not continue. period.
(gawdamit!!! i really did not want to have to go to jail, particularly one thats five freakin' counties away. Oh well, at least I'll make headlines...:\)
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
thank the lord that someone is using his/her head
When the rule of law breaks down it is time for the rule of force....MANY OF THESE ASSES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE BULLIES!!! STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE ...They rule using intimidation and cruelty to get their way...It sometimes just takes one person to knock one of them on their ass publicly in order for the rest to whimper down...PEOPLE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IS THE TIME FOR FORCE OF THE FIST!!!!
----REMEMBER THIS-- THE ORIGINAL COLONISTS DID NOT BLATANTLY ATTACK THE BRITISH ...THEY SENT LETTER AFTER LETTER AND EVEN REPRESENTATIVES TO ENGLAND, WHICH WERE IGNORED...AND EVEN THEN THEY DID NOT ATTACK, UNTIL THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD....
see this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
AHHH!!! I really don't want
AHHH!!! I really don't want to be the shot heard around the world II and certainly don't want all he legal fallout from this!
(This is so not good for my anxiety)
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
seriosly does this give you anxiety???
I mean its not like your brining a weapon or trying to kill someone...
If you know your just attempting to follow the rules, and not doing it for power or fame....then you should be ok.....Its just about getting people like that to step off their false ego's and resume working with the group the correct way...no hard feelings....
One would be suprised how well intimidation and blunt force will
do to the chairmans power. Lol, I have a feeling if I ran across the room and hit him a few times his power trip would leave imediately. If not I would let him know I am coming back for more. We must set things straight it is our duty and if we don't make them be just and follow their rules then no one will.
Well i have no intention of
Well i have no intention of intimidating I'm going to be as brief and succinct as possible. I'll either throw him off the stage, kick him in the head, or throw on a sleeper and try to do so before I get mobbed and riot breaks out. But I have this ill feeling like I'm going to get tasered for this. And then there's the jail time and legal hassle... You know any good attorneys willing to work pro bono?
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee