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EXPELLED~No Intelligence allowed.

A new documentary that shows teachers, professors and highly credentialed scholars, being ousted for their teaching. One teacher, still teaching and not being forced out said "You cannot be a scientist and believe in God."

coming to theatres April 18th.

Ben blows the horn on Suppression! Big Science and Education has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom. What they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel...

http://www.expelledthemov...

thought this was an interesting blog to add.

"It's (EXPELLED) going to appeal strongly to the religious, the paranoid, the conspiracy theorists, and the ignorant –– which means they're going to draw in about 90% of the American market."
-Atheist blogger and fabulist PZ Myers, on a film he has not yet seen.

Thought this was fascinating, but had no idea of the contravercy it would cause. Can we insite this much passion for the National Convention, or does this question the very idea of "who we are?" or maybe even just "who we have been TOLD we are?" Get all this passion bottled up and take it to the National Convention in St. paul this year. Do it for who you really are!!!

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The unregenerate and

The unregenerate and regenerate will not see this problem from the same perspective, at least until it's too late for the pagans. Try to agree on this one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEsEvb1WsIY
WHY GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP.

Calgon, Take Me Away

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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul

The only thing greater than

The only thing greater than man's ability to reason is his ability to delude himself.

This sci-fi thread is boring. Please try to be more entertaining next time.

in case anyone is wathching

in case anyone is wathching this thread anymore the creationists got the last word.

The LORD will get the last Word...

soon....

God Warrior

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Paper Ballots,Hand Counted At The Precinct Or Bust

In case some aren't familiar

In case some aren't familiar with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, they don't only (admittedly) use scare tactics to get the most ignorant and weak minded people to listen to what they have to say like shown in the video's linked above, they are also responsible for this classic piece of work that again shows which kind of public they are aiming for,
Atheist "Nightmare":
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

For more tasteless work by these con men, which apparently takes a christian to point out,
Refuting Way Of the Master by Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

scare tactic?

if your plane was about to crash and i told you about it, would that be a 'scare tactic'?

if your money was about to become worthless and i told you about it, would that be considered a 'scare tactic'?

it is amazing that you think you can see the truth, yet you don't even consider the possibility of what can happen to you after you die. for we all shall die...and what power over it do you have?

Thomas Jefferson, i guess, used 'scare tactics' also, for he said...

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]Thomas Jefferson:

"if your plane was about to

"if your plane was about to crash and i told you about it, would that be a 'scare tactic'?"
- If there is no reason for you to know that and you cannot show anything for it then yes, though this example isn't very good nor meaningful as you can act on it, if possible, without any real effort, consequences or changes of one's way of life.

"if your money was about to become worthless and i told you about it, would that be considered a 'scare tactic'?"
- Again, if you got nothing to show for it, it's equal to Bush saying "The evil terrorists are coming, you need to do /we need to get "
Which of course most people also fall for, the oldest game in the book really.

"it is amazing that you think you can see the truth, yet you don't even consider the possibility of what can happen to you after you die. for we all shall die...and what power over it do you have?"
- I never claimed to see the truth, especially not about something one cannot know. I find it more amazing that you are so worried about that and get talked into and talk yourself into something you follow so slavishly, to such an extent even, that you don't see how slavishly it really is, you (presumably) even like it and wouldn't want it any other way, now that voluntary slavery is something powerful to control or have influence over. Ultimately it is of course very much based on fear, which of course is no different from the people who go along with the war against the very evil terrorists, or the terrorists themselves to whom death is the reward, again, quite powerful stuff.

And I don't need power over it, I accept it, some of us aren't as easily made to worry I suppose, like Mark Twain:
Mr. Clemens was once asked whether he feared death. He said that he did not, in view of the fact that he had been dead for billions and billions of years before he was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.

There isn't all that much scare tactics in the Jefferson quote, though let's do put it into perspective and context:
http://candst.tripod.com/...

if you just read it...

Jefferson means what he says. and your conscience testifies against you. that is the 'scare tactic'.

if you have died and come back, after being in hell, you would understand where i've been.... (and please, don't tell me it was a chemical brain trip that i took...it will not fly)...and where all will go that do not rely on Jesus Christ for their salvation from that place we all deserve.

And in my opinion he didn't

And in my opinion he didn't really mean much.

You can claim all you want, and you can also claim I cannot claim it's just a claim, but that doesn't actually make it any more than just a baseless claim.
It's obvious you don't want to hear anything that goes against it as you've convinced yourself, but it is most illogical, let alone have things tied to it like Jesus.

While entertaining,

While entertaining, definitely scary, but I'm less and less surprised by this kind of behaviour after this and some other threads here I have to say.

This group of like-minded

This group of like-minded would like to create a faith-action team to go to St. Paul and rally for Ron Paul, they are networking for travel and accommodations and to get others together to go to St. Paul, you may want to check this out. http://ronpaul.meetup.com...

Chris I can assure you, the Lord may get the last word

but if he ever shows up here, he's gonna look like the people in the picture at this McCain rally by the time I'm done bitching, so that he can finally speak it.

http://tinypic.com/view.p...

I've ordinarily avoided these threads, but I saw your comment

and had to see what it was about!!!! Thanks for making me laugh once again!!!!! ROFL!!!!! ;-) That picture gets me ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Historic moment at WA State Convention at minute 4 here!!
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Errr... When and where was

Errr...
When and where was that?
The last time I looked I had provided essentially every claim with information to refute it. Plus I now have the last word.

HA! i started the tag game

HA! i started the tag game and it got more responses than anything else I posted. this group is starving for fun it seems. I plan on making this my last post for those who enjoy what i have to say here or for those who enjoy persecuting me i invite you to see the post i put up last nite in the general forums , OBAM=THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. It is about the religion of the european union and the information is extremely hard to come by.

I suppose it did deserve it

I suppose it did deserve it more than anything else you've posted in this thread. The "group" you are talking about was mainly you though.

for the...

moment...

Now I do.

Now I do.

Me again.

Me again.

Neener, neener, neener!

Neener, neener, neener!

Stop using such weird

Stop using such weird American expressions already, making me to look them up.
Anyway, tag, I'm it.

Heh, heh.... tag!

Heh, heh.... tag!

I tried to project this line

I tried to project this line of thought/action forward and it doesn't seem like it would end in the foreseeable future, so I think this is rather pointless...

Tag!

Despite our best efforts,

Despite our best efforts, and mounting public and political pressure from all sides... TAG!

It starts to look like I

It starts to look like I want to bump this thread taggressively which is far from the truth, so stop it already you.

Naturally, I'm very tag

Naturally, I'm very tag interested tag to hear your tag point of view tag on this subject tag. When two tag minds tag can come tag together to tag discuss tag topics tag such as this tag, we tag are tag all tag winners!

I of course don't mind to

I of course don't mind to discuss the subject, but I worry that it may go tagainst some people's emotional thinking about all of this, igniting more non-science arguments to promote their own self-fulfilling tagenda. If you got a specific subject and comment/question I can of course not stop myself though.

Well (tag) said

:)

Glad you are in tagreement

Glad you are in tagreement that it is rather tagonizing.

See link

Very cloak-and-tagger.

Very cloak-and-tagger.

Tags for the memories

:)

very punny

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

"I am standing on the

"I am standing on the threshold about to enter a room, it is a complicated business. I must shove against an atmosphere pressing against my body of 14 pounds per square inch i must make sure i land on a board that is trveling 20 miles a second around the sun i must do this with my head hanging outward in space from a round planet with magnetic storms blowing through the pores of my body the board i am about to stomp on has no substance only atomic solar systems will i not slip through?????"

Verily it is easier for a camil to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a intellectual to pass through a doorway. And whether that doorway be the door to eternal life or a barn door it might be wiser that he consent to being an ordinary sinner instead of bragging about his knowledge of the difficulties involved which SIMPLER PEOPLE IGNORE AS THEY STEP THROUGH!!!

"behold i stand at the door and knock if anyman open the door I will come in".

now all that sums up the problem that evolutionists and atheists have got.

Its been said that we are all...

Its been said that we are all Atheist(s). But only true Atheist go one step further?

What you believe to be true, is true to you... "until you change your mind"

Christopher X vs. Minarchist

That was amusing reading. It was like Mike Tyson fighting an infant.

Hey, I gotta have fun somehow. This site gets boring.

-dave

"She's lower than the lowest whore outside the Holland Tunnel at 3am in fishnet stockings." - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Sawyer

Here's something I don't understand

How can one take the Bible literally, see it as a historical document, and believe that it is fact; and also oppose taxation?

I'm going to look past the way in which the Book of Job lays the framework for totalitarian rule and submission to a Stalin-esque dictator.

I'm going to look past the obvious immorality of King David, a dictator on par with Saddam Hussein, who repeatedly violated the non-agression principle.

But I can't forgive the words written in the New Testament: "give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's."

No power has laid the framework for oppresion more than taxation. Without taxation, liberty flourishes. With taxation, liberty is perished.

How can the Son of God, one who cherished Free Will, get such an important issue so incredibly wrong?

Or was He just misquoted?

It's one or the other for me. Either He was misquoted, and you therefore can not take the Bible literally, or He was wrong, in which case He would cleary just be he.

-dave

"She's lower than the lowest whore outside the Holland Tunnel at 3am in fishnet stockings." - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Sawyer

taxation / tribute...

in the Bible was always for the conquered to pay...not the citizens of the conquering nation. also, you are misreading what Jesus Christ said, and why. the question to Jesus Christ by the Jews was a trick question. it was meant to trap Jesus Christ under Roman law for sedition against Rome. It was not Jesus Christ's time to be taken and killed yet, so He answered wisely. yet in our country, where we the people are supposed to dictate to government their boundaries for taxation. the last several generations have dropped the ball of keeping government in check, so that we can live in peace and with the fruits of our labor.

if you do not understand why our government is on purposely selling us into slavery, you need to understand and comprehend what is coming and why.

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Well, you certainly got your post title right.

You don't understand.
And I have a feeling you're not about to start understanding.

It's clear you are right..and

taking the words of Jesus out of context does not help his case, either.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

I suppose so

Although maybe I should say, "I don't understand the contrary position, i.e. that the Bible is literal."

I certainly understand my position - that the two conclusions I stated are completely contradictory, and therefore one of my premises is wrong.

-dave

"She's lower than the lowest whore outside the Holland Tunnel at 3am in fishnet stockings." - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Sawyer

The Bible has a whole spectrum of literature within,

some allegory, satire, history, parables, (you probably get my drift by now). The Idea Jesus was getting to when he said "Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and give to God what is God's' , is that when Ceasar makes an unlawful claim, or a claim on something that is due only to God, (eg. worship, total obedience regardless, et al) then his claim is invalid. Also, I haven't throughly analyzed David's life, but the counterbalance is seen in how he treated the grandson of Saul. Saul tried to kill him several times, yet David would not return evil for evil.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

Weakest straw man argument

that I've seen here in quite a while.
You need to sharpen it up.

I asked a question

looking for an answer. I haven't argued with anyone.

..... and I'm still looking for an answer.

I'm referring to people who believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible so I didn't see how context would matter to them. Maybe you know differently and can explain.

-dave

"She's lower than the lowest whore outside the Holland Tunnel at 3am in fishnet stockings." - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Sawyer

Context is key, because when anyone's words are ...

taken out of their context, any spin can be put on them. Take Ron Paul's words concerning the Israeli lobbyists, for example. Taken out of context, they make Ron Paul look anti- Israeli, but if you read the whole chapter from The Revolution, A Manifesto on foreign policy, you will see how unbiased Ron Paul is.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

European kings- their lineages back to Japheth (son of Noah)

"I have no idea what you're getting at with the European kings"

the Bible is historically accurate. the European kings lineages prove it. The European kings (which the u.S. is apart of their lineage,Japheth, for the most part) have detailed documented historical lineages that go all the way back to Japheth, who was of the 11th generation from Adam. the reason that the kings kept their lineages is because of the blessings, and curse, given by Noah to his sons.

Genesis 9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
Genesis 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
Genesis 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

it is the kings honor to Not be of the sons of cursed Canaan, a servant to the others. it is also the kings birthright of the blessing of Noah to reign over the Canaanites, and subdue them to servanthood.

this is almost 4400 years of historical lineages , that goes back to Japheth, that these European kings have documented in their archives and in historical texts. these lineages prove the historical account of the flood, and the Biblical account of history. these lineages by themselves throw out the evolution theory as a fairy tale, and validate the Biblical creation account and it's authenticity as historical fact.
http://www.amazon.com/Aft...
http://ldolphin.org/coope...

and fossils are only evidence of a lot of things buried in running water...hmmmm...such as a real world wide flood?
i guess that is why kings can trace their lineages back to Shem, Ham, or Japheth.

minarchist again. the

minarchist again. the second time someone has said he is using brainwashing techneiques .the thought occured to me more than once as well.
. someone else used the word "dialectic."

"deep and wide.On June 30th, 2008 Rainey says:
Delphi, taught to all government educators as the "Alinsky Method" of conflict resolution, was preceeded by Kurt Lewin of the Frankfort Schol in the National Training Laboratory of Bethal, Maine. www.ntl.org This is Brainwashing refined to the highest degree so that joe six pact has no clue what is happening to his mind when he turns on the TV. We are three generations away from the Frankfort School introduction in America around 1930; which places the American people in the same situation as Germany just before Hitler. Some of the folks posting on Daily Paul practice these techniques here regularly on the unsuppecting, like minarchist."