so its Syria now...
Submitted by greenbean on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 13:47
i had a look at a map recently and couldn't help but notice that afganistan, iran, iraq and syria make a nice line from china to isreal & the mediterranean.
is this really the main goal, to get a pipe to run across? it seems like a lot of effort for just one pipe.
does anyone have any knowledge of this? anyone been posted in iraq/afganistan where they had to protect the building of a pipe?
there are no videos on youtube of people actually building a pipe in the middle east amongst the many iraq/military videos so maybe its not true.
anyway, we are now told that syria (and north korea, but we knew that one) is the bad guy.
the syrian government deny it. given the US government history of propaganda to get us to invade countries in the middle east, i know who i would rather believe.
what do y'all think?
Someone has to buy the
Someone has to buy the treasuries (debt) to keep the menagerie going.
Have a look at the link in
Have a look at the link in my thread and watch the 9 minute video. It all falls into place what they are up to. My bet is that Pakistan is next.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46899
It reminds me
how Colin powell and Co were spreading their 'Evidence' about the WMD before attacking Irak!
"History should never repeat itself and if does, a catastrophe will happen"
Gas Piplines
Lots of bits about gas pipelines have been intermingled with Middle East News.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_Pipeline
The Nabucco pipeline is a planned natural gas pipeline that will transport natural gas from Turkey to Austria, via Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary. It will run from Erzurum in Turkey to Baumgarten an der March, a major natural gas hub in Austria. This pipeline is a diversion from the current methods of importing natural gas solely from Russia which exposes EC to dependance and insecurity of the Kremlin practices. The project is backed by the European Union and the United States.[1][2]The EU currently relies heavily on natural gas from Russia and is eager to diversify its suppliers. Nabucco pipeline may be supplied with gas from Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Egypt and Syria.[2][10] The main source of supply will be the second stage of the Shah Deniz gas field, coming on-stream in 2013.
There are other pipelines up and running as well as projects planned. If you hit the above wiki article there are links to them. "Tehran remains on the lookout for a shift in the US stance on the Nabucco gas pipeline sourcing Iranian gas via Turkey for the European market. Last week, Switzerland's Elektrizitaetshesellschaft Laufenburg signed a 25-year deal with the National Iranian Gas Export Company for the delivery of 5.5 billion cubic meters of Iranian gas annually. The agreement was signed during the visit of the Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey to Tehran.
Without Nabucco, the US strategy to reduce Europe's dependence on Russian gas supplies will remain a pipedream, and without Iranian gas, Nabucco itself makes little sense, while Nabucco will be Iran's passport to integration with Europe."
As it is now Russia, say if it disagreed with the US or EU for some reason could shut down it's pipline into Europe crippling it. You begin to see how Iran/Syria figure in to this equation.
More on this Syria link in Nabucco
Interview with: Andris Piebalgs , EU Energy Commissioner
7 April 2008
Excerpt From Interview
Going back to Nabucco, is the European Commission open to Iranian gas?
No, the European Commission at this stage has no relations with Iran because I believe for Iran, but also for EU itself, you need to resolve the main issue and the main issue is uranium enrichment, so I believe you can’t say, “Well let’s talk about uranium enrichment later and let’s now talk about gas.” It wouldn’t be fair towards Iranians and it wouldn’t be fair towards our citizens, so I think we should resolve the issue and we should make effort, as we are making this, so that means I see Nabucco being fed by Iran. But I also see that it could be achieved only after the solutions being found for the enrichment facilities in Iran.
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You have mentioned the Trans-Arab gas pipeline for Nabucco. But that would cross Iraq and...
******No, it’s practically ready and it could bring gas to Nabucco. It is the Arab pipeline. I think during this year the missing link between Syria and Turkey will be established and it will come as gas to the European Union or through Nabucco or through any other pipeline. ******
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I also met the (Energy) Minister (Hussein al-) Shahristani from Iraq when he was in Brussels a couple of months ago and we are working for Akkas (natural gas) field that could be 10 bcm (billion cubic metres) and also feed via Turkey the pipeline. But you are right in questioning that the biggest gas supplies, definitely possible from Iran, and I would be very happy to say “yes” but unfortunately it’s not the case. And as long there would be uncertainty about enrichment there would be no practical development concerning Iranian gas.
www.neurope.eu/articles/85173.php
The STATE must justify its
The STATE must justify its reason for existing; in doing so it will justify any war or military action whether it is actually justified or not!
http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com
"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises
My understanding
that Syria is one of the countries that will not tie their oil to the dollar. What is confusing for me is why that is all that important if the intention is to take the dollar down.
I was wondering
the same thing...
self-bump
discuss you bitches
Is that language necessary?
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There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man. — Tolstoy
sorry, i meant it
sorry, i meant it light-heartedly
For sure it is not
But it was kinda funny, don't you think?
I vote funny.
I vote funny.
I
I thought it was funny.
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