Big surprise from politico.com: Ron Paul is Down But Not Out
Posted April 26th, 2008 by rhino
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Two candidates not named John McCain got a combined 219,913 votes in the Pennsylvania Republican primary Tuesday, and one of them is still in the race...
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Paul pointed out, "and
Paul pointed out, "and he’s paying back his debt.”
in the last part of this article, Rudy Giuliani's "debt" is real money? or is it an abstract meaning?
Guiliani's campaign was
Guiliani's campaign was fairly deep in debt when he dropped out of the race. Basically what Ron Paul is saying is that he is still in the race while Guiliani is both out of the race and left with a load of real money debt from while he was in it.
why nader is an interesting option
What's it worth to you to have one anti new world order candidate in the presidential debates ? ? Because with the RP people helping Nader, I'll bet he could get 15 -20 percent.
first, he already has support of the Green party types, name recognition, and respect from the media. It is difficult to smear him, since he has been through lots of political campaigns.
He is right on issues regarding civil rights (save gun control) , and globalism. If our first biggest fight is the loss of privacy, sovereignty and a soft fascism in government, then Nader, more than anyone will put these issues in the public eye. We keep the truthers, loose the nazis, gain allies like Naomi Wolf, and other left wing civil libertarians. Plus, maybe RP can find a bigger audience for his issue of the federal reserve.
Of course, we loose on the issues of abortion, gun control, and free market issues. Now most government regulation happens at the state level.
So here's the question. Does that matter since we know Nader will not win ? How many people will sacrifice attention to issues of guns, and abortion for a chance to have at least one non-neocon in the debates.
SO I'll say it again What's it worth to you to have one anti new world order candidate in the presidential debates ? ?
I have a hard time believing that
I don't think Ralph Nader IS anti-new world order. The media is kind to him, and he was instrumental in helping Bush "win" the 2000 and 2004 elections by pulling votes away from Gore and Kerry. Not that either of them would have been any better, but you see what I mean. I suspect he has a role in the overall plan. At this point, I'm too suspicious to support anyone the media doesn't either overall hate ar at least totally ignores.
The media is nice to him
The media is nice to him because he's a boon. If you put Nader in the Whitehouse they'll shot him for sure.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Nader.....yawn
if he likes Ron Paul so much why is he trying to divert votes from him by running. BS.
Finally,........
they are seeing the light!!!!!
bump
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"
Congressman Ron Paul
Word out of the Constitutional Party convention is ...
We now have two options. Write in ... or ... Chuck Baldwin.
The way I see it, we get support from Nader people, but I don't see that reciprical movement. He knows and reveals the big picture problems, which I like, but his solutions are more of the same. . . Government regulation.
If
If Ron Paul endorses Chuck Baldwin, I will vote for Chuck Baldwin. I have enjoyed his essays for several years, even though I haven't always agreed with them.
I'll wait to see what
I'll wait to see what happens in September first; this is a very unusual year; Ron Paul has great delegates, and the economy is sinking into the Pit.
But if Dr.Paul is not on the ballot, I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin. A write-in is a protest vote, akin to giving the opposition the finger, which is richly deserved but avails us nothing. I'd rather cast a vote that counts, and Chuck Baldwin deserves our vote.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
Or Dr. Mary Ruwart, if elected.
If I can't write-in Ron Paul -- I will vote for Mary.
After that, not sure. I do know, however, I have an infinite number of options -- not just two, as you presume.
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Write him in!
What other choice could we possibly make?
Anyone who has an account
Anyone who has an account over there should log in and comment. There are people over there slamming our good doctor. I may just have to create an account for the purpose of counteracting the negative comments.....
I tried -
was noted as "logged in" but it would not take my comments.
I wanted to post this in response to the person who commented on Ron Paul supporters I.Q.
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"You, sir or madam, have turned in incomplete homework. Now, march to the corner, put on the dunce hat, and when you decide to get your head out of the sand and do your homework, you will understand you have lost ALL your freedoms - just don't know it yet.
So, for the sake of your children and grandchildren, and future generations, I ask you to do some research and get your news from outside the old media. The Supreme Court has ruled the media is allowed to lie to you, and how do you know if it is a lie or propaganda if you've not done your OWN homework."
Wow, Dr Paul slams Guilliane
Wow, Dr Paul slams Guilliane at the end. LOL. There is a funny part in there that says "Most Ron Paul supporters will end up voting for McCain", now that's funny...............
I love that part also.
I love that part also.
I read it for the 5th time.
Very good article.
Very Good
I think those are very fair questions they are asking. That is something the major media will have to face in the coming months. What are we as Paul voters going to do in November. This one will not vote for McCain, Obama, Hillary or Nader. Leaves few option.
I believe we will get
I believe we will get guidance from RP via an endorsement if he is officially no longer in the race after the Republican Convention.
Write him in!
What other choice could we possibly make?
the nader comment was funny
Fortune Favors the Bold
Honestly I Voted For Him
I liked Nader because I never really heard the political ideas of Paul. I agree with Nader on major issues. Military industrial complex, the war, and civil liberties. I figured government could not get smaller and Nader would manage it and crack down on corruption so figured he is worthy of my vote in 04. I voted Libertarian in all other ballot races. To me if a candidate comes along and supports some issues I believe are biggest in this country then I will vote for him. I think we should not talk bad of Nader because his tax the rich and evironmental stances.
In my perfect world Nader would be the Dem nominee and Paul would be the Rep nominee.
Paul has to me the perfect stance on 99% of issues. People like him to not come often.
I believe Nader
is still a socialist - regardless of his agreement on other major issues.
I am writing in Ron Paul UNLESS he advises we supporters differently.
considering voting Libertarian
I thought about writing Ron Paul in, but I don't know if that would really make a difference. I'm considering voting Libertarian depending on who they nominate.
Making A Difference?
Vote for the best person for the job. Period.
Making A Difference?
Vote for the best person for the job. Period.
Making A Difference?
Vote for the best person for the job. Period.
I haven't been able to identify even 1%
Every time I think, aha, I disagree. Then I listen to the reasoning and say, "Oh, yaw, you're right."
My issue with Nader is more the way
Fortune Favors the Bold
he runs his campaign. He has been described as very dictatorial, and makes people work unpaid hours.
when asked about it and if it was hypocritical,he said "I'm not running a business, this is a crusade."
Not the kind of guy I would want in the executive branch.
Well
I pretty much see his point. Look at the volunteer work that has gone on around this place. Sometimes I think if you pay people, their goals change. So that would not convince me, perhaps, but I thought he was a socialist??
He is
a socialist, that has not changed.
volunteer is the key
Fortune Favors the Bold
he was in violation of labor laws. When employess demanded their just compensation, as per their agreed contract, he withheld payment, leading many employees to quit and write about how much he sucked.
!!!!
Fortune Favors the Bold
BUMP
Where were they when we really needed them?
Where were they when we really needed them?