I am going to address Laurie and i have answered many of these questions over the last 3 days and i will not answer them again!
Posted April 26th, 2008 by SGP
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Did Steve Parent lie about live call with RP on 4/24?
Posted April 26th, 2008 by Laurie
Regarding the (SPAM) posts on DP and RPF about the "live conference call with Ron Paul" on Steve Parent's Revolution Broadcasting radio station, I originally took it at face value when he indicated that there were "technical problems".
However, subsequent facts have come to light.
I noticed that Drsteveparent was put on a 7-day ban on RPF. Was that due to spamming?
Steve: No it was due to people like yourself claiming i lied about it and was done without merit. There no reason even specified as to why i was banned. Bryan the owner of RPF will speak with me tomorrow via conference call about this entire situation.
Or was that due to suspected "bait-and-switch", that RP was *never* scheduled in the first place?
Steve: There was no bait and switch and it was a national conference call that Ron Paul usually Addresses personally and we were going to stream it live. I am sorry Laurie you are not in the loop on important calls and for good reason i believe.
How better to determine the *facts* than to send an e-mail to simply confirm that RP had been scheduled for an interview on 4/24 at 9 ET?
Steve: Feel free to do that and while you are at it maybe you should ask if you can be part of the next conference call and see what they tell you? I would not hold your breath though.
I received an e-mail reply indicating no knowledge of any scheduled appointment in that time frame, but that could simply have been a mistake in communication.
Steve : Please share with us this email reply as to what you were told for we would all love to see it.
So, I called RP2008 HQ and asked the same question. I was put on hold while the person asked around. No one at HQ knew a thing about a speaking engagement by RP last night.
Steve: this is not for the public Laurie you must be invited to these calls therefor it would not be scheduled nor publicized to the public or atleast they shouldn't be.
Then, I called RP's Congressional office. Again, I was put on hold and again the reply was that no one there knew a thing about a speaking engagement by RP last night.
Steve: Same answer as above.
So, the big question I have now is:
Did Revolution Broadcasting CON supporters of RP on RPF and DP simply to get listeners?
Steve : Yes Laurie you nailed it! You cracked the case and our live coverage of Dr. Paul in Idaho last night was a lie as well. Not even one thank you from you dividers to revolutionbroadcasting.com for paying the expense of the hosts to get to the the Idaho rally and stream it live. I didn;t expect anything positive from you anyway so i will not start now.
And if we were lied to about that, what other lies, of commission or omission, have we been told that we haven't been able to prove, yet?
Steve: Laurie you have exposed what lies thus far? I am waiting to them.
NOTE: I have now discussed the likely harmful consequences of an attempted "coup" at the GOP national convention with all parties I have talked with via phone or via e-mail (that was forwarded to RP).
Steve: What coup? You make it seem as i am forming a cult that intends to destroy America? You give me much more credit than i deserve for i have done nothing but educate the people that wished to learn how the system actually works and show them the only way Dr. Paul can win the nomination, nothing more.
Was the "interview" that RP might have had with Steve Parent tonight actually going to be a lecture *to* Steve Parent about 1) lying about RP's "live call" that was not scheduled last night and 2) failing to discourage disruption of the GNC that could do harm to everyone involved?
Steve : It was not an interview it was a conference call and yes there is a difference.
Important: Do make note that Steve Parent did actively discourage RP supporters from rioting at the DNC as Rush Limbaugh requested:
[url]http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46835[/url]
Post Subject: Please do not fall for this
Steve: Yes what this idiot wants people to do is cause violence that will put them in harms way which could lead to DEATH, OR BODILY HARM OR JAIL AT THE VERY LEAST. You are now taking the advice of a known Political hack from the MSM?
Why has Steve Parent refused to actively discourage RP supporters about the much-discussed "coup" attempt at the RNC?
Steve: It is not my place to tell people what to do or what not to do if it is done in a NON VIOLENT and CIVIL manner, nor is it your place Laurie or anyone elses for that matter. Your claim is making the assumption that if i do not force people to quit smoking and they die of lung cancer it is my fault. I have only encouraged these people to learn the rules and change them legally NOTHING MORE!
Isn't that a huge double standard? Given the apparent lie about RP being scheduled for a live conference call, as well, does that raise any red flags for anyone else?
Steve: Are you stating i am a liar?
Steve, does this answer your question:
How can people possibly believe i am bad for this revolution?
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Steve: No i does not answer any questions although my responses answer your questions.
These facts certainly confirmed my concerns about you being bad for this revolution.
Steve: What facts? Everything you have stated is nothing but speculation, propaganda and/or your opinion.
Revolutionbroadcasting.com is not owned by me alone it is owned by every host that has a show on the network and we are all working for FREE. We know you will not be a donor to our network however you are still free to listen to our broadcasts.
Here are some questions for you Laurie: You seem to be concerned about the delegates, are you a delegate? Are you part of a meetup group? Are you involved in any way with the delegates personally besides just making posts on daily paul?
You make so many claims as to what i should be doing rather than helping us educate people before we run out of time, this is where you and I differ for i am on the phone addressing meetups on rules of order so they can make the changes that need to be made legally? I am not wasting my time addressing every single response you make which is the same thing over and over again that has no merit. I believe the people here can think for themselves as to what we should be doing but what about yourself?
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This cannot be condoned on this forum. Laurie is saving forum postings to use as evidence for something, while Steve is waiting for an answer to his three questions. Well I have three uestions for both of you -
1. Do either of you ever stop to consider that all this childish non-sense is besmirching our candidate and our movement?
2. Do you know or even care about the Revolution march, the delegate battle, or have a plan to continue to support Dr Paul?
3. Do you ever stop to think about would be helpful/constructive, or do you just plan to use the RP Movement as a platform for your insecure dramas until something better comes along?
While you're answering those questions, I'll be trying to persuade someone to consider liberty and trying to inspire others to do the same. Have a nice day!
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I did not start this
I did not start this nonsense and never wanted it to start in the first place.
This has happened every week since we have made great progress in the delegate process and i will address these people to defend myself when i feel it needs to be addressed.
I am childish? I responded and answered her questions and as you can see she addressed every person to keep the posts up for 16 hours and i had not even responded. I responded so it would end.
Yes i care about the march and revolutionbroadcasting.com is a huge part of it and some of our hosts are actaully organizers of the march.
I have been educating people on the delegate process and rules of order for months and i have spoken to 3 to 4 meetups a day for almost 4 months on exactly the delegate process and how the system works.
Yes i think about what is helpful and i am doing what is helpful and i will continue to help everyone i can regardless of what Laurie and her few post bumpers do or say.
Dr. Steve Parent
Aren't there a few more "important things" happening right now?
And do you have a clue as to what you are talking about?
Or did you just jump in on this thread without seeing what Steve Parent was even replying to?
Does evidence count for anything?
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Ironically, my concerns about what Steve Parent and his followers would do at the national convention is currently going on RIGHT NOW.
And Steve Parent has already placed himself as the spokesperson there.
Any bets on whether any delegates for RP are allowed entry to the national convention AT ALL, now?
The SGP cult
is definitely weird and maybe somewhat hazardous to health.
Let's do "the many names of Steve" thread...
Steveheads
Steve: international man of mystery
Stevemaniacs
Stevedivide and conquer
Well I guess I am just a bit Steveaphobic!
I answered her questions i
I answered her questions i am only asking for the answers to 3 simple questions for she claims to be very concerned about the delegates i would like to know if she is a delegate herself.
I also have most of the info from Nevada that we will broadcast i believe tomorrow with video and audio for everyone.
Dr. Steve Parent
Steve: STOP asking Laurie
Steve: STOP asking Laurie questions, or expecting replies.
Laurie: STOP asking Steve questions, or expecting replies.
Now are you two going to behave? Don't make me turn this car around!
What's the definition of insanity?
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Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Stop this crap!
Both you POS's need to stop this S#@T right now! Grow up and stop playing your little sissy name calling games!
SGP and Laurie
You BOTH are losing credibility and in the process causing discord..
It really discredits both of you..Please give it up or if you must continue do it in a less public forum.
Sombody get this guy a sock
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No Laurie the people that
No Laurie the people that think i lied are the 4 people that are friends of yours or so it seems that way.
This happenes every other week with you select few.
IS LAURIE A DELEGATE? WHAT MEETUP ARE YOU FROM LAURIE?
Wait untill you hear this answer people. I answered your questions and you refuse to answer 3 simple questions i have asked of you, why?
You have no proof of anything as you claim. Those degrees and all those years in college to obtain 3 degrees sure didn't make you any smarter did it?
I heave spelled everything out very clearly and answered every questions you asked, yet you continue to create straw man tactics and deviate from the facts.
HOW ABOUT THANKING ME FOR GETTING LIVE COVERAGE OF DR. PAUL LAST NIGHT FROM IDAHO.
I will also have video and audio of the convention today in NV sometime soon.
Dr. Steve Parent
Steve, have fun in your RPF conference call tomorrow
I have given them the evidence I have.
And I guess HQ and the Congressional staff are those "friends" of mine, huh?
You do realize that a *Congressman* has people in charge of his daily schedule, don't you?
And that a *Congressman* also has a Press Person who routinely sets up such speaking engagements?
So, Steve, please have someone/*ANYONE* (other than you, of course) verify that Ron Paul was ever scheduled to appear on that conference call, when you were posting 30 minutes into the broadcast that a person hadn't "missed" Ron Paul *YET*.
Until/*unless* you can do so, nothing you say means a thing.
I will answer that Laurie as
I will answer that Laurie as soon as you answer the 3 questions i have put to you.
I have answered many of your questions i am only asking for the answer of 3 very simple questions.
Dr. Steve Parent
Stick a sock in it, will ya?
Exciting stuff transpiring in Nevada.
MICHAEL!! Please end these topics!
these threads are a DISGRACE! I wish the flags were still available as I'm certain you all would get the axe. You should be ashamed.
How Dare all of you!
SGP has every ritght to defend his HONOR and intguety.Where would our country be if Alexander Hamilton had not accepedt a challenge from Arron Burr to a duel.Dtr S has every right to return volley when being attacked.As far as Im concerned he has won.Maybe YOU feel differently but s far as im concerned SGP has answered ALL your questions you want to continue that is YOUR Business but show consideration for !st amendment rights and let others and at least post with different TOPICS.
SGP is letting everyone else "defend" him
With posts about his "little lies" and "all salesmen lie".
Yet another "ego post" for him-
Does Steve Parent realize that people are effectively *admitting* they believe he lied, but it's just a "little lie"?
I couldn't do that damage if I tried, just as the Dems couldn't do as much damage as "RP delegates" making negative headlines at the GNC.
I need to see *evidence* that Ron Paul was ever scheduled by anybody to appear in any conference call the evening of 4/24, because I have evidence from 3 independent sources that knew nothing about any such speaking engagement.
Not a single thing Steve Parent *says* proves a thing *without evidence*. I sure hope you're never in a jury trial!
Does anyone intend to call HQ to confirm my phone call with them? (Ask for Fernando)
And even posts today specified that Ron Paul was *never* scheduled to be on that Meet-Up conference call at all. Maybe Steve Parent should get his story straight with those people-
Stay tuned for another episode of " As the Daily Paul Turns"
When Dr. Steve Parent and his arch rival Laurie engage in another clash of the titans. The axe grinding,bone crushing sounds of
DOCTOR STEVE PARENT will rock your world.
You WILL read it...you love it,and you can't stay away from the conflict of the century.
jokes off....
I can say with all confidence without having read much of this drivel,that this is the most pathetic degradation of a discussion forum I have ever seen.
It is truly sad to see our one chance for salvation of this once great nation be marginalized,and his supporters begin to cannibalize.
You two, need to kiss and make up,kill each other, and or take it somewhere else.
Sorry to bump this crap to the surface.
Not really clash of the titans
More like a great person who is actually trying to help delegates get their information and was the impetus behind an independant broadcasting station (SGP) and a bunch of whiny losers who have shown us nothing and decide to destroy anything they can't control (Laurie, Ryan, Slapshot, Trapp, martfuncher, etc.).
Get off your keyboards and do something great for the revolution!
Lead, Follow, or get out of the way
But you couldn't stop the bump, could you?
The huge difference between Steve Parent (I will *not* use "Dr.") and me is that I'm just an anonymous poster like you. You can listen to my concerns or not. Since you're also anonymous, I could care less!
Steve Parent, on the other hand, is an anonymous poster who somehow has gained a "following" of publicly immature/obscene people who don't care who is, whether he lies, or anything else.
That sounds remarkably like Britney Spears "sheeple" fans to me. People have even posted about coming to these two threads for the next tabloid chapter-
That highly visible group of posters has very little to do with what RP has requested of us. Not only that, but they are helping to destroy what *Michael* has created. See if DP is finished after the convention, as well-
And I fail to see how such people can represent *me* in what I hope the country can resolve.
Dup
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Obviously she's a gal that don't get No Lovin! Just a bitter Old
Maid! Probably has got a spread on her bigger than a VW. In some weird way she has become obsessed with you SGP & may in fact harbor romantic feelings towards you - In reality she is just a Royal Pain in the Ass to All!
Perhaps their love child
could become the meglomaniacal replacement for Simon whatever the hell silly show he is on. Watching these two bozo's duke it out is akin to two fourth graders dare the other to hit them first. All mouth and no guts. I make a motion for us to collect a fund to finance a get together for both of them to meet so they can bitch slap each other silly and place it on youtube. Perhaps that might settle them down enough and gain them the fame they so obviously crave and allow the rest of us to get on with business.
Gee, you might get on with business, anyway, y'think?
Did you hear how much Simon *makes*? Something like $40 million per year.
And I'm doing this for nothing?
Obviously some of us
are of the denser subdivision that can't take a hint.
Wow, is this obscenity appropriate for DailyPaul??
What are we, PlayboyPaul now?
Is this how we impress visitors (or oldtimers)?
Any other forum would have banned you on the first of these obscene posts.
Certainly, RonPaulForums banned Steve Parent pretty quickly-
And you wonder why I hope none of these people get anywhere near the national convention?
Laurie, I could not...
I could not agree with you more, in regards to the [obscenity]. That type of performance is on par with its intent. Some may call it.... something else. Please except my individual apologies for the un-appropriate language.
Laurie, from whence did you come?
I saw your posts began to appear recently (maybe a few weeks ago). What are you trying to achieve with these accusations? Steve, has done alot of good with his conveying of valuable information on the delegate process. What's the problem? Jealousy, perhaps? Maybe you should go back to doing whatever it was you were doing prior to your recent intrusion of DP.
Sigh:(
Actually, I *stopped* posting several weeks ago, because the DP community was no longer one I wished to "associate with", as this thread has reminded me of so well.
What Steve Parent has done about state-level delegate "instruction", accurate or inaccurate, is in the *past*.
What I am concerned about is how someone who no one knows and who I have proven *with 3 independent* pieces of evidence to my own satisfaction blatantly lied has developed such a following of people who seem to think he is some sort of SuperHero.
Those are not the critical thinkers for RP. Since they've rarely contributed postings of content, I'm not sure they even understand what RP is saying.
What concerns me the most is whether those people will do things in the *future* at the national convention that will destroy what everyone has worked so hard to accomplish.
Tell me, what is the point of us all learning about the delegate process and voting for RP delegates, if 1, 2 or 5 get arrested at/ejected from the national convention as "RP delegates"?
Today on "The Steve and Laurie Show"
In today's exciting and climactic episode of "The Steve and Laurie Show", Laurie calls Steve a "poopoo-pants" and accuses him of being the AntiChrist, while Steve tells Laurie "I know you are, but what am I?" and accuses her of eating her boogers.
Stay tuned for all the latest drama and excitement!
Just about had
a heart attack from laughing at that one. Oh, I needed a good laugh!
Before I post a comment, your reply "akak"...
Once I stop laughing at your "brilliant" editorial, :-)))))))
I'll attempt to post a comment. Thank you for the witty disposition.
DAMN akak...you stole my thunder!!!!
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Damn Lauri... stop being
Damn Lauri... stop being crazy. Either help or get out of the way.
Hey Parent
the fact that you protest the allegations lends credence to their probably unsubstantiated claims. Set the bruised ego aside and get on with the business at hand. If you are truly with the cause you must realize by now that none of us are going to please all the people all the time. To continuously engage in this kind of petty sniping serves absolutely no purpose other than to prolong this kind of juvenile discourse. I'll tell you the absolute truth....
I've had situations where I felt like posting but absolutely knew it would degenerate into a digression between you and your detractors.Grow up and find a happy place where the ankle biters don't bother you so much.
Fuck ya both you twits!
Let it go.
Well, this post explains why Posting Rules just popped up again
As I said, these threads have sure demonstrated the value systems/moral character of the posters.
And just exactly what
And just exactly what "character values" have your innumerable maniacal, rabid pit bull attack posts demonstrated? Not that Steve is above reproach for his part in all this petty BS as well.
Are you EVER going to let it go? You (and he) sound more and more unbalanced and obsessed all the time! Give it a rest!
If you and Steve could only direct half of your bile and energy into getting Ron Paul the nomination, he would be a shoo-in by now!
Well than with all them degrees you should be smart
to follow good advice when it presents itself ya twit!
O but wait - your only book smart = stupid when it comes to common sense & the like
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It's fucking ENOUGH already!!!!
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ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! SOOOOO Good, soooo true!!!!! LOLOLOL
I get your point :-)
Though grammatically unusual, I get your point. Thanks :-P
From all I know???
Steve, supposedly has told the RP delegates to perform un-ethically???? Could I be directed to the facts? I know for a fact, ya keep bitchin and I would kindly ask you, too please stop. From what I've seen, all parties to this squabble have injected a great deal of positive time and information to our cause... If you truly, truly, truly, (is that enough) truly believe and understand this "Our" peaceful message, you will cease and desist this performance at once if you [DO CARE]? If he or they told'em to get rambunctious and they are dumb enough too oblige, then so be it! If he or they have not, then the opposition should responsibly apologize.
In ending and in full disclosure, I shall just add that I'm hoping to get a diplomatic nod from Ron, once he is seated at 1600 :-) Keep moving people, we got a long way too go. "Onward" and thanks to [ALL]!
Very, Very Pathetic
On both of your parts. Why the need for any of this. Does crap like this back and forth deserve anybodies time? NNNOOO!!!!!
And the point of your post is what?
Other than to pop the thread to the top again?
Duh!
Point is
To call you pathetic. With your terrible forum on what a station broadcasting Dr. Paul stuff does. I personally do not care what SGP does, I ignore anything he posts if I do not like it.
People like you are what is wrong with this country.
Thanks for another pop to the top
Impulse control is worth learning.
I only hope that everyone is as amused as I am.
Very entertaining. I actually log on for the latest episode.
The truth will eventually prevail.
Briefly
Since this is still at the top and bumping it now doesn't outweigh the need for a few things to be said again. In part:
"...I am going to give the benefit of the doubt on this, and wish people would look at each thing separately. These conference calls *are* entitled "Ron Paul Conference Calls" and Dr. Paul does *sometimes* come on and speak. I remember a call not long ago where our chatroom was used, and our stream touted as an alternative to calling in, because there were roughly 2000 people trying to get onto the call. At that time Dr. Paul did get on and speak. It was rumored ahead of time, but honestly there was no "absolute" confirmation.
I don't think there was a deliberate bait and switch, I think there was very poor communication on what was actually going to be broadcast.
As for technical issues, that DOES suck! I am highly familiar with issues beyond one's control causing a broadcast to fail on some front or another, or of equipment not producing as crisp a result as could be hoped for.
~Our job as free-thinkers and open-minded people is to judge every event on its own merits, even if we think the person behind it is . Be suspicious, question, but don't prejudge.~"
Also, as I indicated under the "Please keep this bumped" thread, the assumption that those you perceive to be "anti-Parent" or however one chooses to view those whom you accuse of stalking, persecuting, etc.... the assumption those people do nothing for the rEVOLution is not based on any sound sort of logic. Things are not black and white, and as I have stated I give people in general a clean slate while retaining the relevant information on past actions. I wish more people would do that.
"Running out of time" is something I am distinctly familiar with, as WV votes the last of its delegates in for the RNC. I can empathize with the fact the conference call did not go well. The reception on such is usually poor, and if there was a rumor Dr. Paul was going to be on it, you may have suffered the side effects of too many people getting on the call, as has happened in the past. These calls aren't really private. People give out the information all the time.
I still believe that the "nyah nyah we spent money and we're never going to have technical issues" attitude could stand to change, but that's neither here nor there...
I don't think there was any reason to lie, and I don't see the facts pointing to such here.