Just got recalled

on your plan of action you should take into account that the powers that be, posers though they are, aren't ignoring the possibility that many on the recall list will attempt to do as you have stated. They won't allow this to happen. The shortage of troops is going to make them desperate and if any one gets on their radar they and their lackey court system will be more than happy to make an example of you. Step carefully and I would suggest talking to an attorney before I would even tip my hand about an educational deferment or more particularly if you decide to go the constitutional route.

Seek asylum in Finland. Our president (a lawyer, although a socialist one) has declared the Iraq war and the occupation illegal so you should have success in making a plea directly to her.

My spamming problem with email has now moved to adding comments. Will notify Comcast.

I'm a retired Master Sergeant (22 years, USAF [you Marines work too hard]), who volunteered at 17, five days out of high school, to go to Vietnam and "kill commies". I still hate communism; but then, I naively believed the SEATO treaty enabled the US to fight in Vietnam without a Constitutional declaration of war. You and I took an oath "...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic." There's nothing in there about helping our government attack, invade and occupy another country without provocation. Secretary General Annan admitted the US violated the UN Charter by our actions, which constitute "crimes against humanity." So, here's what I suggest. You contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations should help) and draft a letter, stating you will NOT execute ANY unlawful order (that action violates the UCMJ), including deploying, supporting deployment or providing any logistics support to our present illegal operations in Iraq. Reference the Lt. Wataba case; as, in it the government tacitly admitted our present operations in Iraq are illegal, and could subject you and other military forces to war crimes prosecution.

I bet your recall orders will be canceled.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
Thomas Jefferson

Robert Fallin

I'm a retired Master Sergeant (22 years, USAF [you Marines work too hard]), who volunteered at 17, five days out of high school, to go to Vietnam and "kill commies". I still hate communism; but then, I naively believed the SEATO treaty enabled the US to fight in Vietnam without a Constitutional declaration of war. You and I took an oath "...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic." There's nothing in there about helping our government attack, invade and occupy another country without provocation. Secretary General Annan admitted the US violated the UN Charter by our actions, which constitute "crimes against humanity." So, here's what I suggest. You contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations should help) and draft a letter, stating you will NOT execute ANY unlawful order (that action violates the UCMJ), including deploying, supporting deployment or providing any logistics support to our present illegal operations in Iraq. Reference the Lt. Wataba case; as, in it the government tacitly admitted our present operations in Iraq are illegal, and could subject you and other military forces to war crimes prosecution.

I bet your recall orders will be canceled.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
Thomas Jefferson

Robert Fallin

I'm a retired Master Sergeant (22 years, USAF [you Marines work too hard]), who volunteered at 17, five days out of high school, to go to Vietnam and "kill commies". I still hate communism; but then, I naively believed the SEATO treaty enabled the US to fight in Vietnam without a Constitutional declaration of war. You and I took an oath "...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic." There's nothing in there about helping our government attack, invade and occupy another country without provocation. Secretary General Annan admitted the US violated the UN Charter by our actions, which constitute "crimes against humanity." So, here's what I suggest. You contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations should help) and draft a letter, stating you will NOT execute ANY unlawful order (that action violates the UCMJ), including deploying, supporting deployment or providing any logistics support to our present illegal operations in Iraq. Reference the Lt. Wataba case; as, in it the government tacitly admitted our present operations in Iraq are illegal, and could subject you and other military forces to war crimes prosecution.

I bet your deployment orders will be canceled.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
Thomas Jefferson

Robert Fallin

I'm a retired Master Sergeant (22 years, USAF [you Marines work too hard]), who volunteered at 17, five days out of high school, to go to Vietnam and "kill commies". I still hate communism; but then, I naively believed the SEATO treaty enabled the US to fight in Vietnam without a Constitutional declaration of war. You and I took an oath "...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic." There's nothing in there about helping our government attack, invade and occupy another country without provocation. Secretary General Annan admitted the US violated the UN Charter by our actions, which constitute "crimes against humanity." So, here's what I suggest. You contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations should help) and draft a letter, stating you will NOT execute ANY unlawful order (that action violates the UCMJ), including deploying, supporting deployment or providing any logistics support to our present illegal operations in Iraq. Reference the Lt. Wataba case; as, in it the government tacitly admitted our present operations in Iraq are illegal, and could subject you and other military forces to war crimes prosecution.

I bet your deployment orders will be canceled.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
Thomas Jefferson

Robert Fallin

just sign up for grad school and defer the whole thing.

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

I'm a retired Master Sergeant with 22 years. I joined the Air Force (You marines work too hard) when I was 17, five days out of high school, because I hate communism and I believed our efforts in Viet Nam were both honorable and legal. I knew Congress had circumvented the Constitution, but I believed then, naively, that we could go to war under the SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization) treaty. I feel I am qualified to remind you of your obligation to "support and defend the Constitution". Does that oath you took willingly say ANYTHING about supporting the government? Secretary General Annan admitted the UN Charter does not support our actions in Iraq. Therefore, this war is illegal and those who participate are war criminals. My advice to you is to contact an attorney or paralegal (the antiwar organizations can help you) and draft a letter to your recall authority, in which you state, "Under my responsibilities to the UCMJ, I will NOT execute an unlawful order. This means I will not deploy, assist deployment or provide logistics support to the illegal operation in Iraq. You might document this by referring the mistrial of Lt. Wataba, when the government tacitly admitted the war is illegal.

I'll bet you won't be recalled.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson

Sincerely,

Robert Fallin
MSgt, USAF, Retired

file for tinnitus (ringing in the ear). it's an easy 10% disability. at your audiology exam they will ask you if the ringing is present at that moment. say yes. they'll ask you when it started. give them a date you were deployed or at a shooting range. something like that.

the higher your % the less the government will want you back.

I've been active duty for nearly 17 years, and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm pretty sure that I'll be deployed before my time is up, and I totally disagree with what is going on. Check this out, I just found this the other day. I talk about Ron Paul with everyone, even though we aren't supposed to politick at work...and I put up a blown up pic of me shaking hands with him under a Ron Paul for President bumper sticker on the wall of my desk at work.

Good luck.

www.appealforredress.org

The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

try to get out ... if you can't tell your fellow marines how big a bunch of BS this war is.. take them Ron Pauls book! get them educated.. we need you Marines here at home soon too! remember.. your oath to fight enemies foreign and domestic.. there are many domestic enemies and they are not the civians who live in this great country!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Put him up front!!!

the same for military? Couldn't you become a freedom fighter by standing up if you do get recalled and say that you feel the mission you are being asked to participate in is in violation of your oath? Seems like someone in the military needs to stand up. Congrats on the baby btw.

and never forget -you guys are always in our prayers and we wont shut up til youre home.

In the mean time, if you do go, see if you can figure out a way to make the voices of the military heard loud and clear for Ron Paul. See if they can think of a way to get on TV promoting Dr. Paul. Stay safe.

you stay safe as you can,,,,congratulations on marriage and baby,,,we ll think of you and keep you and all the other soldiers there in our prayers

I wish you all the best but this is just shocking for me. Hope for President Ron Paul
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"

Congressman Ron Paul

soon

i was reading a comment on huffington post; someone in same shoes as you -- said his papers said something to the effect of "duty to serve country & defend against 9/11 attacks " -- or some language to that effect.

essentially, you're being called to serve on a mission that has proven fraudulent. iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. so if our military is STILL being called to fight a battle in iraq, in response to 9/11, isn't the govt guilty of fraud?

You have a family, and a little one you need to take care of, don't endanger your life for such a stupid and illegal war. You truly are a patriot for stepping up and be willing to go into such a dangerous endeavor, but sit down and think what you're about to do. Stay.

Collectivism is slavery.

Seriously, Are you IRR or completely out?

Can you get an academic deferrment?

What about a medical deferrment for the kid?

Are you allergic to anything that might show up in the military vaccines?

BTW, congrats on both the nuptials and the kid. Make sure you decline him a SSN and all early vaccines. You can always ernoll/enslave him in that system later if needed.

Personally as a 44 year old male, I believe that no one should go to war unless they are old enough to become president!

preferably in two places that will heal quickly

if not get online and file for ptsd immediately. i'm leaving for a few hours, but i will check back in to see if you replied. i will be more than happy to assist you.

and just so you know i was in the army for 3 years and have become the go-to guy for all my battle buddies concerning the VA.

http://vabenefits.vba.va....

apply here

My heart aches the most for our "awake" soldiers. Please stay alive, please stay strong, please forgive us.

may spirit guide you back to us unharmed!

im sorry you have to fight a dirty war for a bunch of elitists posing as patriots

I hope you and your brothers and sisters can find the strength to stop going back to this war.

like you to do what is right for our country - and that vehicle for the r3VOLtion just may be the military. You can educate and grow from there - one by one.

Support and defend the Constitution and ALWAYS do the right and moral thing.
God bless you and your family!