Think about Groupthink ('Foul' Language)

Is that one should not take "solemn oaths or vows" to do things (though your "don't make promises" is pretty close).

(Context for the non-religious: Matthew 5:33-37)

The point being taught really is that you should simply DO what you say you will do. And that if you are in fact KNOWN for doing what you say you will... it will not be necessary to even consider MAKING a promise, much less having to "swear on a bible"...

And furthermore it teaches (this part is often missed) that the act of doing so -- the NEED for the act of "swearing on a bible" -- is testimony that the person doing is is NOT trustworthy, and is, in fact, being so solemn ONLY in an attempt to deceive people that they are something they are NOT known to be -- namely "a man of their word."

Quakers and Amish tend to understand this... few others do. (So much easier to mis-translate and mis-interpret it into "don't say nasty words"!)

BTW, Good Post.

There is a reason these conventions are perpetuated in the first place. Where did the 'bad words' come from? Why are they bad? We should all be suspicious of this sourceless moral code that has no logical source and no true moral basis. It is a convention, it is something that has been programmed into our culture. And the source of this programming (religion) has been, can be and will be used to do much worse things if we let it. Religion is fine, you are free to have all the religion you want. But be careful about letting religion define your moral code without any logical reason for doing so. This is the reason for the proliferation of media. Those who would control us realize that many of us are either lazy about, ignorant to, or hostile toward religions, and they needed another way to plant ideas into our heads. Call me a blasphemer if you want, but think very carefully before doing so.

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

I said the “F” word? Oh you mean fuck? Yes, that’s right. I did so? Its funny that the same people who do not get offended by American warplanes bombing the crap out of people in the Middle East, Vietnam, and elsewhere, killing children by the score, will be breathless in their indignation when someone says the word “fuck”. The end of the world is not ushered in by warplanes and atomic bombs, but by people saying “fuck”. “The moral fibre of society is crumbling. Bring back hanging and conscription, that’ll sort it. Put ‘em in the army, make bomber pilots of them.” What a hoot it is, all this plastic moral hypocrisy. You have “news”papers selling themselves using women and sexual titillation and that’s OK, it seems. But when the word fuck comes into the story, it is always written as “f***” because this is a family newspaper as you can see by the lady showing her tits on the inside page. What’s with this f*** business? When you see f***, what word goes through your mind? Fuck, exactly. So what’s the difference? Ah, I get it now. It’s fine to think the word fuck, but not to say it or write it in full. Gotcha. F*** that. See, its easy.

It includes the ability to express oneself as one deems fit. The moral standards and persuasions of some are not the moral standards of others. Foisting one's own moral standards on others is absolutely 100% your choice and you are equally free to attempt it. But the recipient is 100% free to disregard your moral persuasion and carry on as he/she deems fit. This is what freedom means. This is not a kids restauarant, we are not at church, we are not Dr Paul's official spokespeople and we are on a site dedicated to restoring (lost) fucking freedoms.

Am i the only one besides the author of this thread that sees the rich IRONY of all this language non-sense? If you aren't willing to take the good along with the bad in the long baggage train that is freedom, then return your tickets and retrieve your baggage cuz your slowing the rest of us down. Plead as you may your particular sensibilities, but when they get lost in triviality - where they belong - don't be surprised.

in an enviroment that never cursed or used foul language as it was considered uneducated, classless and rude...It was the guage for poor manners and only the ignorant and those without self control used it (especially around children)..

Although, I understand the argument, I still cringe when I hear people curse freely in conversation. And have thrown out my fair share of people in a casino who had no respect for those around them. and cannot control their language.

Do I curse...Sure...Here and there...Takes alot to get my Aquarian spirit to resort to it...

And to proove my point further...Do you really think Dr. Paul talks like that in everyday life? And would he want to sit near you in a restaurant with his wife within ear reach of anyones profanity at the next table?

Free speech..I get it...But don't lower yourself.

IT IS EASY TO BE SEDUCED BY THE GROUPTHINK THE MASTERS FOIST UPON YOU. IT IS HARD TO USE YOUR HEADS AND BE YOUR OWN SOVEREIGN. THE MASTERS KNOW THIS AND USE IT AGAINST US EVERY DAY. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MY CHILDREN NEED YOU TO WAKE UP AND BE YOUR OWN SOVEREIGNS AGAIN, OR WE WILL ALL BE SLAVES. FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD IS 'APPROPRIATE'. AS TIME WEARS ON, WE WILL BE TOLD MORE AND MORE ABOUT THIS, UNTIL WE ARE ALL SLAVES AND WE THINK WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. IT IS ALREADY CLOSE AT HAND. PLEASE...

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

Writing $hit and F*** is okay

Since these are some of the headlines here I think its hypocritical by all those who objected to my title. You have to pay your dues and write the same crap you gave me to those other people. But no you wont. Since we changed a letter or two it is okay.

Good God......
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"

Congressman Ron Paul

what the hell are they going to do if bullets start flying? I try to be respectful, but that seems to encourage some people to demand more respect than they deserve. Here's a variation on the golden rule: I won't push your buttons as long as you don't push mine.

And I got viciously attacked(eventhough I appologized)
but then a few people who probably never wouldve donated to the RP Republican I was promoting started saying he lost my support.
So guilt by association eventhough Im not him nor do I know him. I just copied it from RPF and made a provocative title to get more views because I thought this was urgent

read my next post
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"

Congressman Ron Paul

People are too quick to agree with whatever they are fed by the media (their masters). The whole idea that our morality should be forced upon us by popular choice, right down to what words we can and coannot use, is ridiculous. And it has led, by extension, to the tragedy that is happening in Texas right now. I talked to some people in my family about this over the weekend, and they were instantly against these people, because 'What they're doing is wrong', and 'There are 14 year old with babies in there'. I asked them to prove it and they could not, just like the government and their agencies cannot. The groupthink is pervasive, and it starts with the little things like controlling what we can and cannot say. You have to see the small things in order to have a focus, not just on the big picture, but what the big picture MEANS. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'