I have an Idea
Posted April 29th, 2008 by letushope
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that just might work. My problem is I am afraid of posting it here. How can I secure a true dedicated list of Ron Paul Patriots? My plan will require every state collectively to do something and time is of the essence.
Note to the FBI, FEMA, Homeland Security and John McCantStandYou. It does not involve any violence what so ever.
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I have an update
Ron Pauls Official Campaign will not touch this. I started to reaize that a few days ago. What they would say ( if approached) is exercise all of your options, liberties etc. The person who contacted me said they had recieved it and that it was in the best interest to not show it to Ron Paul.
If we move with this -- it CAN NOT be under the assumption that Ron Paul has endorsed it.
It has to be another grassroots type campaign. This plan/idea is legal, official and binding.
It is a movement within the Republican Party. Damn it - we are the original party. I am tired of feeling like the outcast!
Excellent idea! I emailed you with an update.
Let me know if you need me to do anything else.
I am in contact with this person and
can assure you this is excellent. I am actively working to get this in the right hands beginning this evening. This is NO scam and NO attempt to collect email addresses. Stop being so suspicious. It's always good to be a bit skeptical, but enough is enough. This kind of attitude discourages otherwise good intelligent people with excellent workable ideas from coming forward.
Hey Truthy
Same here. I am working it thru a few contacts here in SC but have hit a stump. Being the end of the week people are not calling me back.
But I want to re-enforce what you said. This IS a great idea, one I can't believe we didn't think of sooner. Hats of to LetUsHope.
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Thanks Truthy
For verifying Lettus is NOT trying to scam info or do harm to anything to do with the Ron Paul Revolution.
Since I am related to Lettus, I really did not think anyone would take my word for it.
It is a good idea & yeah, we need to be cautious. But at the same time if we put such a high wall around us that good intel can't get in how can it get also out where it needs to go... how smart is that?
Anyway... ty for your post and your effort.
LYA Sis
did hear back from one candidate that thinks it would be difficult and if it could work the media spin would be of course the wackencrap loonies at Ron Paul Campground.
It's not dead in the water for me - I still have others looking at it. But it was real and was not a phishing trip. It was a hunting expidition. OPEN SEASON JOHN MCantStandYou -- Bang!
Yes Thanks letushope! I have
Yes Thanks letushope!
I have had contact with this person as well and their idea is sound. I understand our healthy skepticism but come on people in this day and age of technology how hard is it to create a new email address and check a person out if you're not sure.Otherwise you have miss an easy opportunity to give advice to a patriot!
I am connected
If I have a good idea regarding strategy, I know whom to contact.
If THEY find out who WE are, THEY can challenge OUR credentials as delegates and exclude US from any remaining Conventions. That would mean that they get all the remaining National delegates. If THEY find out what OUR strategies are, THEY can counter them. Please be extremely cautious about revealing information to people you don't know or trust.
Freedom, Prosperity and Peace
Is the official campaign secure enough?
Don't worry. I am going straight up with this. I am well aware of all their crap and all the ways they are working against us. "They" and "their" being the GOP good ole boy network.
Go Get 'EM
truthy.
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Social engineering (security)
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Social engineering is a collection of techniques used to manipulate people into performing actions or divulging confidential information.[1] While similar to a confidence trick or simple fraud, the term typically applies to trickery for information gathering or computer system access and in most cases the attacker never comes face-to-face with the victim.
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Freedom, Prosperity and Peace
I appreciate you updating people about phishing
maybe you should start a thread about that. I am not phishing, scamming or anything else. I am trying to get important information in the hands of someone who can do some good with it.
No Information Here
I have no doubt you are "trying to get important information in the hands of someone who can do some good with it."
Freedom, Prosperity and Peace
I have sent this idea
to atleast 5 very active people on this site - If I was phishing or offered bs crap they would have called me out BIG TIME! I wish they would validate this, even if they don't think my plan will work. Maybe they don't want people to know they have it - I don't know. But it is for certain if I had BS'd anyone they would surely post it and I do mean fast.
there is a Washington County Patriot
out there who is taking my/our plan to some important people tonight!!! I do say our because I have learned so much here and developed the desire to learn more from so many of you.
it may not work, but if it does it will be great.
If you are sincere, best of luck. Otherwise, please scram ;-D
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if you just emailed me
can you do it again. I hit mark as unsafe instead of safe (cramping fingers)
No 'tweren't me who emailed you yet...sorry
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No it wasn't you - it was me.
this is how uncomputer savvy I am - and mountain man up there thinks I am a phisher. I sent you a 2nd email after I posted in here and clicked copy to myself. Then I responded all the information to me, thinking it was you. duh! I replied to my self.
I'll wait to hear from you.
I am I also
sent you an email to your dpaul account. The Jane Aiken link does not work. Maybe check your junk mail box. I will send you the plan and you can help me get it to her.
Ok will check email maybe not immediately...am at work now...thx
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More about Phishing
Phishing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In computing, phishing is an attempt to criminally and fraudulently acquire sensitive information, such as usernames, passwords and credit card details, by masquerading as a trustworthy entity in an electronic communication.
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Freedom, Prosperity and Peace
There's no such thing as foolproof
Trolls are everywhere. But how does anyone reach out to anyone else here?
if you click on the persons posting name
it will take you to a screen that lists posts, tracks and contact. For some the contact feature is active for others it is not. Why, I don't know maybe what you enabled when you set up your account. But some have questioned the security within this site so we don't know if that is safe either.
hey lynnopoly
have you had any luck? Also if you could confirm that I am not on some fishing expidition I would appreciate it.
I have modified my request
and I am no longer looking for a list of emails. I admit that was a pre-mature in this endeavour. I am still pursueing this and I hope the few that I have shared this idea with or have communicated with will validate that I have not spammed or schammed them in anyway.
Phishing
This looks very suspicious to me. It could be a phishing attempt. Just think what might happen if a list of every known Ron Paul delegate got into the wrong hands. If someone is really connected to the campaign, they already know who to contact.
Freedom, Prosperity and Peace
I promise I am not fishing
although I am hunting....McCain Open Season.
LOL
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small update
nothing huge.
But I was able to talk to someone (I won't name names) who is going to get the information to Joe Becker - Chief Legal Advisor to Ron Paul. The person I talked to understood what I was talking about, but had no idea as to how to make it happen.
He did say he would email Joe Becker, but noted that he gets 1000's of emails a day. I am still trying alternative avenues.
If it was not Jane Aiken I hope you do try her too ;-)
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I will look for her
but if you can send me her email - I have posted it down further on the thread it would be a big hlep.
Jane Aiken can probably contact the Campaign....
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Scroll down -Jane Aiken did respond to this node; also maybe you
Scroll down in the link - she did respond to this node; also maybe you can email her userid via dp....
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
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double post :-/
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Ideas?..Hmmm
Put the Constitution on trial...There have got to be lawyers in this group..or lawyers who want to make a name for themselves,...many of us would sign up to be a part of it..I know I would..and federal-state-civil law suits are brought against those who violate our rights..Start with Bush and his friends..or the IRS....start smaller maybe? What about those that run our state government? Do WE THE PEOPLE not have the right to sue them in court..and on a civil level..for taking away our rights?
There is a yahoo group called Court Watchers, they are watching judges and police..and Child Protective Anti-Social workers making sure they follow the rules...
Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.
this wont involve court
it's a movement within our party. Right now the word movement makes me laugh because the republican party has been shitting on us ron paulers this whole campaign.
I wrote to
Lew Rockwell and this is what I said:
I have an idea that I think would surely help the ron paul movement. I have been directed to you from the dailypaul blog. I need advice on a legal strategy within the republican party. If you could help put me in touch with someone that can be trusted and qualified to advise me on this I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you
He responded that he is not involved in the campaign in that manner :(
I have just sent similiar to Chuck Baldwin.
Sounds to me
Like you need to start with an attorney and then see if you can ask the campaign for their list if they think it is worthy.
Does anyone think
I should contact Chuck Baldwin?
Chuck Baldwin's
son is an attorney. Tim Baldwin a former Florida Assistant Attorney.
Chuck has his own bid for president
remember, he is the candidate for the CP. He and Ron would be a great team!! DREAMIN' here....sorry ;)
I did just get a human
who took my message. I asked to speak with or leave a message for either Bruce Fein or Joseph Becker who are listed as the legal consultants on HQ's page.
She wanted me to tell her what my message was and I explained that I would only discuss it with either Joseph or Bruce. She said they did not provide legal advice and I explained that wasn't my intent. I wanted to suggest a legal strategy within the campaign.
She took my info, but it sounded like it was going into the circular file.
So if either of these lawyers surf this site I hope to hear from them.
I am still prowling other contacts.
Where are all the lawyers
Way to go Letus! Keep pushin.
It strikes me as odd that we don't have lawyer type people here.
Could be they keep quiet as to not get entangled and end up in trouble, I can respect that. It sure would be nice if everyone shared their talents in this revolution.
Contact Lew Rockwell
Or Chuck Baldwin
Or I know! Call Kucinich in Cleveland, tell him it's urgent. He will call you back, I've talked to him many times. He is friends with Ron Paul and a friend to the campaign. He is a trustworthy, moral person. I KNOW THIS WOULD WORK.
Let me know if you get though, I may be able to get in touch with him again.
Lew Rockwell is another good choice. Also, you can try Alex Jones. He can loop you through to RP as well.
Kucinich actually wanted Ron
Kucinich actually wanted Ron Paul to be his running mate. He mentioned something about that back in Nov '07. To bad he never officially endorsed Ron Paul, although that mention was virtually an endorsement. I suppose being that he is a Democrat it would be difficult for him to do so, politically. But, if McCain can consider running as a Democrat against George Bush back in 2004 and the GOP still attempts to rally behind him... maybe it would be a good move for Kucinich to endorse RP afterall...
Alex Jones is to
Alex Jones is to conraversial to start this movement, he will be of help once we have an action plan.
I need to talk to someone who understands party rules, roberts rule and has a legal mind.
who would be best.
you can email me directly at
firesafeone@hotmail.com
the system
is not even taking messages.
Now what?
general message voice mail :(
I got a recording "general message voice mail for Ron Paul - please leave your message and a representative will call you back"
What time are the open?
Do they ever really answer the phone?
Has anybody else called HQ?
I have two questions...
...is the email system here at Daily Paul secure?
Also, my account is one of those that from the start gave a "404 page not found" message, which has been very frustrating for me, to say the least. How can I get "in the loop" securely?