They're spraying us...
Posted April 30th, 2008 by wpsmithjr
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I noticed "chem trails" in the sky on the way to work this morning. I live in Alabama.
8-10 lines of dispersing chemicals in a symetrical pattern across the sky, seeming to imminate from one point.
Anybody got a clue what they're spraying us with?
I've had some sort of respiratory problem for the last several days. I thought it was something I caught from one of my kids. He's had it, my wife's had it, and now me. It might be something he caught at school... my other child seems fine and so do people where I work. I might just have some sort of bug, but who knows when they're spraying you with chemicals on a regular basis.
Anybody else notice this happening where they live? A lot?
What is it?
Why?
How do they get away with it?
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its a good day when
i can come onto this thread and read comments and see SO MANY are aware of whats happening,,i woke up last summer to the world and chemtrails is what started it for me.one thing is for certain when Ron Paul accepts the presidency and becomes aware of the many bioweapons in use he will press for legislation and restitution,,,and chemtrails will cease to poison us any more..
saw a couple chemtrails
saw a couple chemtrails today near la
these are NOT contrails:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
djsahus videos are good:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
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No, they're not.
Unplug yourself from mythology and set yourself free.
My God where have you been?
They (the Gov't / Military) has been engaging in aerosol operations vis our nations skies since 1998. Actually it's occurring worldwide throughout all NATO countries and perhaps even some additional countries at this point. I saw my first chemtrails on a boat in Ocean City, Maryland in the summer of 1998. I had been reading about chemtrails at various websites but had yet to see any until that summer afternoon in 1998.
Sorry To Burst your Bubble...
but the military by their own admission has been doing this dating back to the 1940s.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/g...
Perhaps, my point was that I didn't first observe the.....
very existence of chemtrails until 1998 after reading about it. Most of our population are still unaware of their existence. It's a subtle reminder of how few people bother to just simply look up in the sky anymore. It's actually rather sad if you truly think about it.
It's posture and observation
Looking down is a natural mentally submissive posture. Chemtrails, alien invasion, birds, or planes. Don't ever stop looking up.
A few of the contents of Chemtrails are.....
Barium salts, Aluminum oxide, etc. If you are really interested, there are a number of websites that have been researching chemtrails for years and many individuals have had chemtrail contents analyzed by various reputable labs (independent and otherwise). A good starting point would be Jeff Rense's site at WWW.RENSE.COM
I am waiting for someone to
I am waiting for someone to call their airports and air controllers and find out who is doing this and what they are doing. The bees may thank you. We need some concrete evidence and they would have it.
Air Traffic controllers will play dumb and any government......
agency will till this day, after spraying for now ten years, deny spraying occurs and the very existence of chemtrails. Their response will be, "You're seeing "contrails", that's normal". Unfortunately, if one takes the time to actually differentiate between contrails and chemtrails, he or she will see the two are very different in nature. A normal contrail will dissipate and completely disappear within a few (i.e.three) minutes. Contrails are the result of jet fuel exhaust coming into contact with ice crystals (which form due to high altitude water vapor). High altitude would consist of at least 20,000 feet or more. Chemtrail planes are leased commercial or military aircraft flying at an altitude of greater than 30,000 feet. And some have been noted at greater than 40,000 feet. Chemtrails take several hours, not minutes, to completely dissipate. These are two very different beasts and yet observable with the naked eye. On any given day anywhere in the United States ( and the weather is fairly nice/clear ) just look up in the sky for God's sake, YOU CAN'T MISS IT. To deny their (chemtrails) existence is simply ludicrous. Enough said.
Military bases
Not commercial airports.
Maybe ask your psychiatrist
He might know.
Here's some clouds for you...
http://digg.com/odd_stuff...
L. A., CA...
got a dose today, too.
Harrisburg, PA
They are spraying heavily this morning. E-W direction.
The one thing I have become CERTAIN of
is that it is unwise to be too certain of anything. Chemtrails? I don't know. Aliens? I don't know. 9-11? I don't know. SSRI poisoning? Absolutely yes, it happens. I did not believe it for the 20 years I worked in healthcare, but after I had a reaction to them, I became a believer. All the people out there having a grand time on their prozac still believe I am just crazy, and now "off my medication." HARRP? I don't know. Planned false flag attacks? I don't know.
OK, see how easy it is to admit what I do not know? What I DO is act in the most prudent manner I can devise, in light of the possibilities before me. Do I need to drink flouride to get the tiny amount needed for health? No, I do not. Therefore, I do not risk poisoning myself. I take the further precaution of brushing with straight baking soda. Costs less and is great for my gums, and whitens the teeth.
Life after death? I don't know. (It is kind of addictive, you all should try it sometime.) Vaccines cause autism? Probably but I don't know. I told my pregnant daughter to study up and make the best informed decision she could. Food supply being poisoned? I don't know, but I grow as much as I can.
Did you notice how Ron started his book? I mean REALLY started his book? The first words most people will read, when they pull it off the shelf are these: "This much is true: You have been lied to."
Does Ron REALLY believe in any "crazy conspiracy theories?" I don't know, but if I were managing his campaign I would ask him to deny it until after he was in a position to begin REAL investigation rather than join the speculation game.
Here, let me get you started: Most of the topics to the right: You don't know, I don't know, Ron probably does not know.
I like
the way you presented this!! Thanks
I'm not sure about the whole chemtrail thing...
Strange Clouds Mesmerize Japanese Airliner Crew
...but this video is interesting.
WTF??
WTF??
Somebody in this thread...
asked "who has seen these planes" and "can you show me a plane designed to spray poison?"?
Here it is...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
That looks more like a plane equipped to take air samples
rather than spray. The equipment inside looks like computer equipment not tanks of poison. Makes sense if it's taking real-time air samples.
I appreciate the effort but it's not proof.
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Lisa C.
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Explain
Explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
This is not a shadow, the plane is following the line.
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For anyone interested.
http://www.worldwithoutpa...
http://www.rense.com
http://www.imageevents.co.... Drop down menu-Strange Days Strange Skies.
http://www.weatherwars.co...
I have investigated this for a long time, it is the illuminati and the depopulation issue. I didn't use to believe it either, but you have to investigate, discern, and come to your own conclusions. There is too much evidence. This is real.
Denial is not a river in Egypt.
In reference to eugenics (depopulation), you-tube a couple of...
Phil Schneider videos from circa 1995/1996. He actually died in 1996 under mysterious circumstances. He was a deep (very deep) black ops guy involved in the construction planning of Area 51 at Groom Lake, Mt. Shasta in California, and the underground facility in Dulce, N.M. He was also involved in the Dulce Wars in 1979. In at least one video, he mentions the NWO/ Illuminati's global depopulation goal of 85% by 2028. Interesting videos. FYI, he was a geologist by profession.
the freedom of critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, debate
I have seen on numerous occasions what I had always thought were "contrails" in the sky.
I have noticed that they are usually in a grid-pattern and often times, to me anyway, the sheer volume of their occurrence is unusual.
Today, because of my own deep distrust of our government, I am skeptical about the harmlessness of these emissions in the sky. I would like to know more. I want to inquire and investigate more. I'd like to hear more on the topic from the quote-mainstream media. I'd like to hear an explanation from my representatives in Washington and my representatives locally. I'd like to see the planes up close if I could. I need to get a pair of binoculars.
Am I a "conspiracy theorist" or do I simply have an inquisitive mind and a natural, healthy curiosity about the world around me? Because a majority or even a minority calls me names and ridicules me and expects me to accept their explanation(s)--however rational-sounding--and shut down all discussion on the subject, should I stop questioning my reality?
I know this: I would hate to live in a world where I could not ask these questions, in this forum or another, of my representatives in government, of my own experiences and observations, and to disagree with some or even all of you. I don't know about you, but questioning my reality is one way that I better understand my world.
Without this kind of curiosity, I doubt that I would be part of this revolution today. I would still have no concept of the Federal Reserve or money and no cynicism for the Federal personal income tax. I wouldn't be aware of the reality of the American Empire. I would still be a "Democratic-Socialist." I wouldn't understand the insanity of this bloated Federal Government and the welfare/warfare state. I wouldn't feel so strongly about individual liberty. So many things...
"If we want to live in free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
Please watch the following
Please watch the following video. Ron Paul supports a new investigation into 9/11, and he also talks about supporting the ideas of Kucinich.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.pacinlaw.org/i...
double post sorry
double post sorry
jzneff
you didnt ask my earlier question,,,i dont recognize your handle...are you a new member,,,are you a Ron Paul delegate or RP meetup member? nothing you say comes across as a RP supporter the way most of us regulars here are accustomed to...
I answered you, be patient
Read down...I think I already answered you...but i'll be happy to do so again.
No, i'm not a new member...I have been a member for 24 weeks, 5 days.
No, i'm not a meetup member or a delagate.
I am a Ron Paul supporter, and if I'm unrecognizable to any of you simply because I don't play along with the psychosis du jour, it may be because i'm educated and naturally cynical of things like this.
Why don't you ask Dr. Paul (a medical doctor, mind you) his opinion of chemtrails? You are the fraud, for you are using a great man's name to push your own agendas. I am more aligned with this man's movement because I don't want more FDA control over foods...I don't make leaps of faith without knowledge to back it up...I don't get excited by the theory of the day.
I want what Dr. Paul wants...for the market to decide these things. Don't like flourine in your water? Turn off the tap. Don't like GMO food? Spend more money and buy organic non-GMO.
You're off on a tangent, and it's a severe distraction.
meistersinger
are you a Ron Paul delegate,,,how long have you been a member on this site?
Let's quit debating with
Let's quit debating with meistersinger.....I mean really you aren't going to convince him, so just ignore him. He will go away. He's only here to start arguments and distract you from what you are trying to do. JUST TOTALLY IGNORE HIM, and he'll go away. Watch I'll show ya how. ;-)
http://www.pacinlaw.org/i...
Yes, ignore the fact that
Yes, ignore the fact that Ron Paul does not believe in "chemtrails," "9/11 truth," or "free energy."
Just keep on ignoring all the facts -- after all, you believe that a complete absence of evidence constitutes absolute proof.
So ignore away, you have nothing to lose but your mental stability.
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Ron Paul doesn't believe in free energy?
Fortune Favors the Bold
so he doesn't believe in the laws of thermodynamics? :)
He does believe in the laws
He does believe in the laws of thermodynamics -- the very laws that make "free energy" impossible.
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Changing Minds
Is never easy, I've noticed and in this case since the debate over contrails vs. chemtrails has gone on for years, it is probably best to just relax and feel secure in one's own knowledge.
We have more immediate issues at hand...like converting more McCain supporters and delegates to our Man and seeing if we can't help get the media to give Ron Paul the coverage he deserves. Just this morning, I heard on KKOH radio news a local professor from the Reno University campus quoted as saying the "confusion at the Convention could have been lessened if the McCain people had had more of a presence. There were no McCain signs to be found anywhere." Guess what, he is not popular here. Period. The GOP Party did its best inside the meeting ballroom to have banners up for McCain (not one Paul banner), including banner projections on all of the large TV screens, thus marginalizing Ron Paul and his supporters.
IT'S DOABLE
I'm still waiting to hear your explaination about...
fouride being ok for you to injest. Dropped that subject real quick like, didn't you?
One psychosis at a time sir...
Sorry...as i've said already, I have work to do and can't give you instant responses.
Flouride is not only safe, but it is absolutely necessary to function. It is one of the many things your body needs in small amounts.
Yes, at higher concentrations (normally higher than found in tap water) flouride can be quite toxic. The reason being that it dissociates in your blood and acts as a calcium scavenger, and this loss in calcium can prevent your calcium ion channels from working...in a nutshell, it can stop your heart.
It strikes me as very similar to the debate over the safety of aspartame and msg. The argument essentially is...when you feed someone gallons of this stuff, it causes major problems, so it's safe to assume that very small amounts are unhealthy.
In reality, that's unscientific thinking. Tap water is flourinated normally below 1mg/L. That is not enough concentration to cause you any problems...in fact, it is a good amount to maintain the flouride necessary to run your body.
Think about it this way...your body needs water to survive...but if you overconsume it, you can die. By your logic...water is poisionous and should be outlawed.
Dr. Paul Thanks You
Keep on riding the trolls, jzneff.
Dr. Paul is on your side and he needs your help. These trolls are just pretending to be Paul supporters to buttress their own crackpot agendas.
Yeah, I know that it's crazy for them to believe that saying they support Dr. Paul gives credibility to their "chemtrail," "9/11 truth" and "free energy" delusions, especially when Dr. Paul doesn't believe in those things.
But that's the way their dusty, musty, cobweb-swathed mentalities operate -- the absence of evidence constitutes proof and the most reasonable explanations are the least likely.
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That why over 600 medical professionals...
Are calling for the gov to stop flouridating our water, huh?
That's why 98% of Europe STOPPEd flouridating their water, huh?
From Wiki...
There is a lot of conflicting reports as to the safety of water fluoridation, which was covered in the University of York's review concluding that "The evidence about reducing inequalities in dental health was of poor quality, contradictory and unreliable. Because of these conflicting reports and the numerous websites that point to these safety concerns, many question whether fluoridation should be legal until some of these issues are resolved. Some of the concerns raised include:
Specifically, fluoride has been shown to weaken bone strength, leading to an increase in hip and wrist fracture.[15]
A lowering of IQ.[16]
Research indicating that fluoride causes chromosomal damage and interferes with DNA repair.[17][18][19] Cancer in general is not believed to be caused from water fluoridation.[20][21]
A study using rats that were fed for one year with 1 ppm fluoride in their water. They were shown to have detrimental changes to their kidneys and brains,[22] an increased uptake of aluminum in the brain, and the formation of beta amyloid deposits, a characteristic of Alzheimer's disease.[23][24] However another study found no link[25] Moreover, there is some research that suggests Alzheimer's disease can be prevented with water fluoridation because of the competition between aluminum and fluoride absorption.[26] Nonetheless, this research is also limited by design and no definitive conclusion of this effect can be made. Other studies claim that age and family history are the most important risk factors concerning alzheimers..[27]
In animal studies, fluoride has been shown to inhibit melatonin production and promote precocious puberty.[28] Fluoride may have an analogous inhibitory effect on human melatonin production, as fluoride accumulates readily in the human pineal gland, the brain organ responsible for melatonin synthesis.[29] Further, fluoride can weaken the immune system, leaving people vulnerable to the development of cancer and AIDS.[30]
A study showing that overdose of fluoride have been associated with liver damage, impaired kidney function, and fluorosis in children.[31]
Animal studies demonstrate that fluoride can damage the male reproductive system in various species.[32]
wpsmithjr
wpsmithjr, report to your telescreen immediately for re-education. You've wandered outside the matrix.
"If we want to live in free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
Sorry...
I will return to my tele-screen and participate in the 2-minutes of Hate to hopefully get back to my group-think mentality.
Give my pardons to Big Brother.
Would that be...
According to government studies???? I think so!
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It's Official: Ron Paul Does Not Believe in "Chemtrails"
I just spoke with Anna at Ron Paul's Congressional office and asked:
"Does Ron Paul believe that unknown aircraft are regularly spraying the United States with toxic chemicals?"
Anna said, "No, he doesn't believe that."
Comments?
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What difference does it make whether Ron Paul believes in......
Chemtrails, 9/11, etc. Some of his supporters happen to believe in these things. Because RP does not publicly acknowledge these scenarios, does that mean they lack ANY legitimacy and did not or do not occur? If you want to discover whether chemtrails exist, on any clear day simply look up in the sky and that question will be answered very quickly.
Possibly as an Air Force vet
and a Congressman, he would have some idea of what's going on. Plus, he is a man of reason and logic.
I look up every day. I've never seen a chemtrail.
Sorry.
Ya know...
the other day I heard him say that he doesn't think 911 was an inside job either...but that doesn't mean it wasn't.
RP
however has said he is open to a new investigation of 9/11
But it does mean that you
But it does mean that you are in the wrong forum.
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I guess the people talking about the...
Tx kids are in the wrong forum? Haven't heard Dr. Paul speak out about that.
The people talking about "free energy" too?
The one's talking about global warming?
People talk about all sorts of gov atrocities on this site. Always have. Always will.
Get over it.