Ron Paul says "I don't believe that for a second."
Posted May 2nd, 2008 by Crickett
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Page 157 of "The Revolution.."
"I have heard it said that mankind does not want freedom, that people are happy to be slaves as long as they are entertained and well fed. I have likewise heard it said that most Americans have bought into the version of events they are given in the mainstream media and are perfectly content to be told what to think--what is good, what is bad, who is politically acceptable, who is politically unacceptable.
I don't believe this for a second. For one thing, our own American Revolution would have been impossible if this mentality had prevailed. Contrary to what many Americans have been taught, a majority, not a minority, of the colonists supported the fight for liberty against Great Britain."
As I was growing up, we were all taught that media censorship and propaganda was essentially Communist. It was instilled in me, that that was one of the first things they did. I grew up disdaining that aspect of Communism.
Much of what the US is doing now, is reminiscent of Genghis Kahn, and Alexander the Great, and Hitler, as well as unnamed others. We need our Country back. That is what we should be fighting for. Not the Iranian's battles, but our own.
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SteveU Even tho you have only been a member under this name a little over 2 weeks the way you made this post only make us wonder.
We wonder if your mind is just negative?
or are you paid to pretend that your mind is messed up.
or if you are just a resentful person that has just decided to start venting your ignorance and hate on this web site.
Real Ron Paul supporters do not post insults against Ron Paul at all.
We are very familiar (and the other Ron Paul support sites) have had employees of the eastern establishment posting for a long time.
All they accomplish is the same thing that the media blackout did.
What was that? Educated all of us to the extent that the media was misleading them.
People that make the kind of posts as you did may not understand that the thousands of real Ron Paul supporters laugh you insulting posts.
Ha Ha, Ha He, Ho Ho. chuckle chuckle chuckle.
We tell our friends, and show them web sites and videos and soon it is another Ron Paul convert to freedom and the constitution.
Freedom is popular.
The blackout and people posting as you have, ... made people research Ron Paul all the more.
As a result there is a larger percentage of the population aware of the paid staff that the eastern establishment hires manipulate the news & that they treat the American public as dumb cattle or sheep.
We resent that because we ( including all of the eastern establishment and employees ) are given life by our creator.
The Bill of Rights outlines rights given to all (including those in all other country's) humans by their God (creator).
The Ron Paul revolution is alive and well. http://www.youtube.com/wa... "enjoy"
You may post but you are EXPOSED SteveU.
May God Bless You and all mankind even those that are mixed up.
A new investigation...
Dr. Paul said he would be open to a new investigation into the events of 9/11. That's more than you'll ever get from the other candidates. Whether the government was involved or not, a new investigation under a Paul presidency would be much more responsibly done than what we got from the Bush administration.
With that being said..... Can we drop these endless, divisive arguments and get the doctor elected?
Ignoring the troll below....Uknow who U r
I would just like to to see more excerpts from The Revolution.
maybe as you read and find something especially meaningful or poignant to you.
great thread Crickett, Thanks
I'm in touch with
some young people who think this whole Ron Paul thing is still ridiculous and they voted for Ron Paul in primaries.
But they do not believe globalism is bad, but inevitable. They do not believe the media is all owned--impossible they say.
They do not believe our government could have looked the other way or had anything greater than that to do with 9/11. Couldn't possibly be a false flag situation.
They do not believe the dollar will vanish or be totally destroyed. Too many people depend on the dollar they say.
They do not believe our economy won't come back. This is just a down turn. We aren't going to let our economy keep crashing. Look how high the market is.
They don't want to read more about it to figure it out for themselves because it is too depressing and they don't see any need to do it. They just want to live their lives of work and piano lessons for their children, soccer moms and T ball dads, a little exercise if they can get around to it.
Let them be. In some ways it
Let them be. In some ways it shatters your life. Of course, you will encourage them at every opportunity they afford you, as they will start to see things begin to touch them with the ever-growing malignant reach of the Feds..
lots of
sheeple idiots out there. Won,t wake up ti'll it affects them personally. Then bbaaaabbbaaa baaa
When it does affect them personally
it's gonna hurt.
Do you think that Paul
thinks globalism is bad? Paul is all for global capitalism.
Paul also does not think the government intentionally "looked the other way" on 9/11. He has explained many times, they he thinks it was simply ineptness at detecting the threat.
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I'm against Paulites Against Truthers
Ron Paul might not agree with Truthers but he would agree with their freedom to speak. Ron Paul would not be where he is today without the help of Alex Jones.
Touché! Sharp distinction on globalism.
Ron is for free-market global capitalism.
He is opposed to government-managed global capitalism.
But it must be noted, that we are talking about trade and not the territory of government with the term globalism.
Don't you know
When we say "globalism" we are not talking about trade, but rather sovereignty.
To say that he thinks it was simply ineptness at detecting the threat does not say that he does not believe they USED the incident after it was done. Sometimes you have to listen to what is not said.
But frankly, I would like to listen a lot less to what you have to say.
Right
Right, they probably USED the incident as an excuse, is Paul's position, but not that they intentionally looked the other way and allowed to it to happen. I just wanted to be clear on Paul's position on that.
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C'mon bud.
You know that globalism and global trade are not the same thing.
Stop being so silly.
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That's very often what globalism
refers to. See Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
"Globalization is very often used to refer to economic globalization, that is integration of national economies into the international economy through trade, foreign direct investment, capital flows, migration, and the spread of technology.[2]
The word globalization is also used, in a doctrinal sense to describe the neoliberal form of economic globalization.[3] Thomas L. Friedman "examines the impact of the 'flattening' of the globe", and argues that globalized trade, outsourcing, supply-chaining, and political forces have changed the world permanently, for both better and worse. He also argues that the pace of globalization is quickening and will continue to have a growing impact on business organization and practice.[4]
I think this is usually how people use the term.
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My sentiments
exactly!
He's my hero
He's my hero
I don't think I can agree with that
Talk to people. Most people don't want a libertarian society. They want to use government to force their morality on other people, and they want more government involvement in the economy, etc. They want to tax the rich, in order to get "free" things from government, and so on.
Sure, most people will SAY they want a free society, but when the realize what that entails, they reject it. Those who want a libertarian society are in the minority.
The Founders realized that most people don't want a free society. That's why they set up a constitutional republic instead of a direct democracy. The purpose of that is to protect individuals from the majority.
I think Dr. Paul is overly-optimistic there and ignoring history. It sounds good and makes people feel good to think that everyone is a libertarian, but it's not true.
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Nice try
Asshole!
SteveU, hope you enjoy the labor prisons...
because I want my Freedom! I want the government to stay out of my wallet and let the market work. Are many people still too busy trying to scrape by a decent living to educate themselves and see through the veil of MSM lies? Yes, but eventually they will see the light, and when they do, they will be angry and embarrassed that they've been misled. The middle class is fighting to stay alive while the rich keep getting richer. This always has the same result if you study history: a revolt when the last straw breaks. And now with the internet, the truth will *out* eventually.
And you
how do you feel?
I will disagree with you. I
I will disagree with you. I am not a Libertarian, and do not even like the name. So I follow no member agenda. I live in Arkansas. Unfortunately, most people are living in some way off the Government. I say most and I am certain of it after living here 8 years. What we all need to remember (and I am seeing it pop up even more lately) is that these people were still helped by others before being Federally funded. Churches took over hospitals and there were lots of local organizations that helped people. Even the individual states funded programs and facilities to help people. We did not need our Federal Government to redistribute our wealth (our tax money) by starting new departments to oversee state issues. This is unconstitutional, period.
Most people can see that they could work it out somehow. These people are survivors. They still want their freedom. They are patriots mostly.
If you're not a libertarian then
what are you doing supporting Ron Paul?
Ron Paul says: "Libertarian just means you follow the Constitution. [That is], if you're a Constitutionalist, and you follow it, and you vote for very limited government, that's all libertarianism is; it's belief in liberty." http://youtube.com/watch?...
We're talking about "libertarianism" with a small "l" here, not Libertarian Party. It's not the same thing. Libertarianism is simply the philosophy of liberty.
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Well, people can give a one
Well, people can give a one line statement as to what, to me, seems to be a very complex party. I have investigated as much as I chose to and I am a Republican. If this election continues to show me that The Republican party is becoming liberal then I would have to join the Constitution Party and give them all of my support from now on. But this thread is not about me...
Not talking about the party
Libertarianism existed long before the Libertarian Party ever existed. Libertarianism is a philosophy of liberty. Not all libertarians even agree with all of the positions of the Libertarian Party. A libertarian can be a Republican, a Libertarian, or even a Democrat.
Ronald Reagan once said "the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."
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A lot of libertarian scholars would disagree with Ron here...
on the meaning of being libertarian. Only a voluntary government that does not initiate coercion is consistent with the libertarian non-aggression principle (NAP).
The Constitution violates the NAP with its compulsory taxation for example.
Two kinds of libertarianism
There is the kind you're referring to, and then there is consequentialist libertarianism. See the intro to the libertarianism article on Wikipedia. Paul seems to be to be a mix of the two. He doesn't seem to be absolute non-aggression nor absolute consequentialist.
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Thanks for the Wiki tip. Consequentalist libertarianism...
however is a cop-out according to my reasoning. Two Q's for ya...
1. Does it have a clearly defined foundational principle (like the NAP for example)?
2. If it doesn't (it might, but I couldn't gleam one from Wiki) then why are we bothering with it?
Politics has been divorced from philosophy for too long. Just look where conservatism and liberalism have gotten us...
freedoms
If the full loss of our freedoms becomes a reality for everyone in America, then enough will stand up. More have noticed because of Ron Paul. We're at the end of the easy and the fat.
Well said!
Well said!