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Mobile Phones are tracking devices, what we can do about it ?

Hello. Please excuse my English, is my second language.Each mobile phone sold in USA has a tracking device…nobody talks about it but every move we make with the mobile phone in the pocket is stored is some database.

Who, how and where we can take the chip out and still have the phone working ? Any ideas ?

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Remember V for Vendetta!

If each one of us put on a mask, then they wouldn't know who really is the terrorist.

So, if each one of us started their conversation with "In the name of Allah and terrorism and jihad, how are you doing today?" or something like that, they wouldn't be able to tell who's the real terrorist and who's faking.

I've been doing that for years!

Fortune Favors the Bold

my nickname for my girlfriend was Jihad Bomb. And boy, did she like to talk on the cell phone.

haha!

:-)

Oh yeah, pay as you go phones

Pay as you go phones are not a safe way to keep anonymous either. the Protect America Act deals with those phones. They will monitor you just like they would if you have a cell phone contract. They did this specifically because they said terrorists would buy lots of these phones and keep using a new one every time they make a call.

It's called land lines

I have an answering machine. If I'm not home, I will get back to you. Otherwise, deal with it.

I can just hear the howls and screams now, "BUT I NEED a cell phone to do x, y, or z!!"

Really, and what do you think Americans did to communicate with each other between the era of carrier pigeons/morse code and cell phones hmm??

Learn how to operate and work with a land line dufus. Then you don't have to worry about 'eavesdropping.' And for the record, I know they are listening there too, so I only say non important stuff over the phone. The rest is saved for in person meetings.

EXACTLY

I'm only 39...so maybe I should be hipper....but...I always say the exact same thing....I tell my kids all the time....we used to leave the house with no cellphone, no answering machine and no call waiting....my goodness how did we survive...
I am really not into GPS and brain cancer...I'll pass

also, when i was a pre-teen

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my friend thought he was super cool because he was the first of our friends to get a cell phone.

The result: His mom called him every hour to see where he was. :)

Here's what you can do

If you feel the need to have your "privacy", not risk being tracked (even though you are doing nothing wrong, other than being a patriotic american)... take the battery out of your phone when you feel the need.

Theoretically you can turn the locator off. I have it turned off on my phone. But I question just how "off" it turns it. It makes it so my network cannot monitor the location, so it says. But it still will turn on with a 911 call. I have to turn the locator on when I use the GPS navigation in my phone. Otherwise it will not work.

Your best bet to stay off the radar, is to just keep to yourself. But if you feel that your political activity.. sign waving, questioning your senators, etc.. may make you a target.. just take the battery out of your phone. Although if you really are being targeted through your phone, and you do that, they will just find another way to spy on you talking about that dangerous document called the Constitution.

Don't do anything illegal, and you "shouldn't" have anything to worry about. But remember, talking about legal things like the Constitution or speaking out against our Dear Leader, may land you on the radar screen still.

Basically your best bet is to just keep your mouth shut about certain things. I know that's hard to do. Speak in private to only trusted people if you really are worried. But remember, I am only talking about perfectly legal things to talk about. Legal things that for some reason our govt now sees as dangerous, like freedom, constitution, rights. If you're talking about illegal things, then there's not much anyone can do to keep ya from being tracked if you are caught on the radar. Phone or no phone, they're going to find a way.

the locator

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is irrelevant. Any intelligence agemcy worth their salt can backwards engineer your location from cell tower data.

Who needs em?

Don't use them. I don't have one, and I don't want one.

Comcast is planning...

to have cameras in your set top box too.

No Way!

I dont' believe that for a second. Do you have proof of that or a link you can share?

Ask and you shall receive

uh yeah.

and THAT, "MY FRIENDS" is the f'ing reason you are to throw your GD TV out onto the curb. you wanna talk about cell phone tracking? that's crap compared.

people. the TV does more damage to your brain than most everything else there is out there for you.

what did we do before cell phones?
how about what did we do before TV!?!

Holy Cow!

I checked out the link and I must say this one is out there. I can remember when my family first got cable TV (1987). There was a rumor going around that they could watch you from the corner of your screen. It was BS of course but what a trip that it's actually going to happen. So let me get this straight. They can monitor my internet usage, watch me on my television, listen to my phone calls, examine my DNA, and track most of my spending. Man do I feel free!

What about the device

we will soon be required to attach to our TV or it will no longer work?

Will that truely be an in-house tracking device and will it work whether plugged in or not? We have to get one yet, but am truly suspicious!

You take the phone and shove it up a squirrel's a%$

it drives the CIA nuts.

There is a bag you...

can buy that blocks the signal to and from your phone. Sells for about $15 at spyville.com. It works very well.

but

Fortune Favors the Bold

that would also make the phone unusable...

I have a pay-as-you go

I have a pay-as-you go phone. I feel absolutely no need to have a cell phone with me everywhere I go. If I'm not home, people can leave a message on my answering machine. And I have apartments, so if I can do it, anyone can. Here's what I do: IF there comes a time when I am expecting an important call, such as if I have a vacancy and an ad in the paper, and I have to leave the house but don't want to miss a call, I put my land line on call forwarding to my cell phone. That's really all I use it for.

www.paulforronpaul.com

Cell Phones

Isn't there some way to "dig out" the tracking chip or whatever the hell it is, and still use the phone? IF I had one, you can be sure I would be taking that battery out eery time it was not in use!

no

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the way they track it is the same way it connects to the network

the FBI

& CIA can also use your cellphone as a microphone to eavesdrop on you anytime they want. Even if your cellphone is turned off, they can do this. The only way to prevent that is if you remove the battery.

The tracking device works in

The tracking device works in conjunction with the 911 emergency capability. All you have to do is take the battery out of the phone. No power, no antennae, no transmitter, no tracking device. No Problem. This will also defeat the ability of the feds to eavesdrop on you.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

This begs the question; What about the new device

we will all be required to have installed to use our current TV's?

Is that an in-home tracking device?

most tv systems these day

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do some kind of tracking of shows watched. they are working on direct marketing technologies that will be based on what your viewing habits are. They even have a camera idea, where recognition software will deliver specific ads to different family member based on viewing habits.

I've got a plan for that camera!

Tin Foil Hat for the box! They won't be able to see through that. What about also just turning the box sideways pointing toward something. Bounce the signals off the wall to the box.

Not only that, but on many

Not only that, but on many phones (I think the ones with speakerphones) they can also listen in and use your phone as a bug even when it is powered off. The only means to detect it is if your battery runs out quickly when you haven't used it. I think there is a way to disable it from allowing this but I don't know what it is. I think one means is to take the battery out after use but that would be a hassle.

One failsafe solution is...

...don't have a mobile phone. :) I have yet to be convinced I need one of these, regardless of tracking, cancer, or any other concern. The world's a far louder place now with people talking and ringing and texting and laughing at things only they can see... I am doing my part to stop noise pollution !

Here Here! Bravo for you,

Here Here! Bravo for you, Melissa! I also do not have a cell phone, do not want one, do not need one (as almost nobody does), and do not ever plan to own one!

I know I risk bringing down the wrath of all the gadgetgeeks out there, but in my eyes, when I see someone with a cell phone, their "sheep" factor automatically goes up.

P.S. I also own my own business, and I STILL find that no reason to own a cell phone!

You must not live in Wyoming

most rural areas in Wyoming do not have land line phones. We don't even have electricity where we live either.

Hope, I would of course

Hope, I would of course exempt you from my generalization. Although I must admit that I find it almost bizarre that you have CELL phone coverage but not land line service --- here in Alaska, it's usually just the opposite. Maybe it's because of all the mountains here? I'm guessing you live in a flatter part of the state.

Well when we first got the cell phone,

we could only have analog service, but they have upgraded, and the reason there are so few landlines now is because Wyoming is such a very rural ranching state, that it is very expensive for upkeep on the lines, sometimes 45 miles for 2 family's phone lines. So, where there are land lines in rural areas, the base rate for land lines are about 75 dollars, just to have the phone on the wall, so of course even some who do have service with landlines find it cheaper to get a cell, and when you drive to work 100 miles and meet only one or two cars on the highway, it is good to have one in case of emergency. My only gadgets are my cell phones, and my laptop computer (not enough solar power for a desktop). I heat and cook with wood, grow my own food, have a treadle sewing machine for my business, and don't even have a flush toilet,so I am not the typical cell phone user. And neither I nor my husband could run our businesses without one. We live on a 4 wheel drive road 30 miles from town. Not exactly handy for customers to drop by instead of call.

Yeah that would be the ideal,

but we live where there is no landlines, and both my husband and myself have a business, mine at home, and his from home. No other choice, but you are right, most don't need them like we do. My kids beg for their own, "mom every teenager has one" is a weekly or bi weekly lament. But we don't and won't let them have their own. They would definately have a brain tumor later in life. We live very far from town (30miles), and my children are homeschooled, and there are none their age at our church. So, we let them use it for texting mostly, at least texting they aren't holding it to their head.

Thanks

for reminding me not to take my cell phone with me when I bury survival caches :-)

I really..

hate my cellphone...
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