John McCain's Campaign calls Arizona delegates...Just 3 questions

They should NEVER have allowed that vote to go by in Oklahoma. This is why we MUST know Robert's Rules -- I repeat, MUST.

Bill Greene
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http://www.DelegatesForRo...

Since becoming a Republican, I was offered a volunteer job at Maricopa County to hand count and verify ballot votes. I was one of two dozen volunteers for Republicans. There were the same amount on the other side for the Democrats. We paired off in 3, either two republicans & democrat, or two democrats & republican. We had guest passes and we roamed around were ever we wanted, asked questions and learned about all the "double blind" processes that were in place. We choose already computer counted ballot boxes at random, and we then sat down at a table and hand counted that box to verify the counts accuracy. We matched the count to the machine count. We did not look at the machine count record until we were done counting.

The ballot machine was very sensitive. Our ballots looked like this:
Mitt Romney ======President
Ron Paul ======== President
John McCain====== President
Mike Huckelberry ===President

All a voter had to do was take his black marker, fill in the line connecting the name to the word President. Some people, going down the list, would unconsciously put a dot next to a name or even inside the ===== and then when they found the name Huckelberry, they would solidly fill in the lines ===== . Thus if someone just put a "dot" somewhere - anywhere- on the ballot, it was not counted by the machine. But we counted it. Our judgment was needed.

It was a humbling experience. Though we had Arizona freeways and every road corner smeared with Ron Paul signs,....though our mass mailings to registered republican voters, and meet-ups walked our precincts....it was humbling to see the Ron Paul did not get the votes. It was not that they did not know who Ron Paul was or what he stood for, they did know, they just disagreed. Either that, or, like my two democrat counting friends said to me:

"If you are not on TV advertising, then to the voters think you are not 'Real'. A viable Presidential Candidate proves they are viable by being on TV. Ron Paul did get the free TV time, but they always painted him as 'not a serious un-viable candidate'. The Paul campaign never ONCE countered this MSM message with paid for TV time. In New Hampshire, it was McCain who sought out the cameras, who voters saw as a "real choice" and the Paul campaign blew all that money on a 5 page brochure."

They may have a point. A good political campaign "manages the message" as well has how that "Message gets interpreted". To manage the message is "Spin". Spin is everything these days. We in the Revolution did our own Spin, made our own youtube videos, some where real tear getters! Some really touched our passions and heart and minds. The Paul Campaign put nothing out on TV that did the same to the general public.

When Dr.Paul still gets on TV, but even now the MSM spins him and his message as "fringe", "something to think about" and "always interesting". They ask "Why are you still here?" ...to which they get a weak reply and on PAID for TV, we get nothing about Ron Paul still in the race for the White House. MSM asks, "What are you going to do with all this money you still have?" and what MSM hears is that its not going to be spent telling the public he is a Viable Candidate still worth voting for. The Paul campaign aimlessly suggests they may start a book company with it...

The only interesting thing I learned at the County building was how well they --government employees---had systemization the separation of names from ballots. They have made it so that it is impossible to connect the two. This goes to your question. They kept the computers safe and took many steps to insure nothing funny could occur--as best as I could tell. Then again, in Vegas I saw an elephant walk under a very large sheet and then disappear. Don't ask me to explain the trick, I haven't a clue. If there is a trick going on computer software wise, then like the elephant on stage, I couldn't see it. There are still libertarians that challenge the process, look to the computer software issues... but all I can say I was thoroughly impressed and satisfied.

I walked over and matched myself up with two democrats.... and at lunch I learned these two 50-something ladies were really two "socialists-progressives"--former green party card carriers, stongly pushing the "universal health care" plank. Much like libertarians who are not republican conservative simpletons, they were not really democrats simpletons. They knew my positions well, just like I knew theirs. I had the thought that it was really LIKE-ABLE people like these that we are fighting with, with them on one end of the rope, and we on the other end, with millions of liberals and conservatives holding the rope in the middle. We are both disgusted because our middle team members don't pull hard. Then it occurred to me that we libertarians & Progressives should just take the battle directly to the source, to each other. Unlike most D's & R's there, we 3 were deeply read and ideological. In a real way we are brothers & sisters, from the same tree branch family, just located on separate ends of the Y. Yet they, like me, where deeply suspicious of the vote count process and thus we felt like spies inside the D & R teams, just there to see for ourselves. They where not happy with prior Green Party counts, just like I was always suspicious of hanky-panky when it came to counting libertarian votes.

What occurred to me then was, of course it was a very safe and objective process, these two, the republican and democrats, are in deep competition, and so much care has been taken. These particular government workers prided themselves on their disinterested systemization that provided clear and open objectivity. They made sure all workers politics was known and a 50% balance was made to be sure that never would there be mostly democrats or republicans working there.

So the answer, at least in my county in Arizona, is that it is impossible for ANYONE to know WHO you voted FOR. Unless you tell them, and even then, they must take your word for it. Word is that John McCain in 2000 told people that he and his wife voted NOT for Bush, but for Gore. It all hearsay, but there is no way to check and see if that is true or not.

~peace

a vomit bucket!!!! i'm still chuckling-thanks for that post!!

Operation False Flag will be a success! Oh, I hope I get that RNC call! Where's my vomit bucket?

Yes sir! Awaiting further orders!

...when they're on their cell phone...?

http://groups.yahoo.com/g...

yes, I like your idea. You can say you voted for the presumptive nominee.
You can always say you have changed your mind later, you did not even knew about Ron Paul before, you thought McCain was criticial of the war and would end it Z(as some NH voters thought), you heard McCain recently say the war was about oil and that made you switch your vote from McCain to Paul etc. McCain will still have a lot of slip-ups in the coming months, e.g. enough reason to "change" your opinion :-)
Everybody receiving such a call should adopt your strategy.

1-866-520-5769, call time 2:03 pm, May 6th.

You can volunteer to help keep the convention moving...registration, etc.

You have to be a delegate to that convention to be able to vote for the delegates that will move on to the next convention.

If you are not currently a delegate, you may not participate in any vote that takes place. You can only watch.