Ventura/Paul? Jesse Interested in Running for President as Libertarian
Posted May 8th, 2008 by Galileo
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Ventura/Paul?
Jesse Ventura Interested in Running for President as Libertarian
go to the 34 minute mark of the video:
(This is by far the best interview I have heard with Jesse Ventura)
"This is the ONE interview of former Governor Jesse Ventura which stands out from his Corporate Media battles; herein the ex-Governor is welcomed and given a forum uninterrupted by corporate advertisements. Jesse "the Mind" engages in a fluid and thought-provoking discussion; proving that our best potential candidates for President are still waiting for the American Public to recognize the inconsistencies in economic and foreign policies which are eroding the very fabric of what we love about America. Support Jesse Ventura for President"
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Has anyone ever asked
RP if he would consider running with JV?
I think Jesse has too big a head...
to be the VP. Seems he wants to be pres. I would rather have him that the evil 3, but Dr. Paul is still the man for the job. Period.
Jesse would be a great VP for Dr. Paul though. Straight-shootin', tough as nails, wouldn't take shit from the neo-cons. It would be a great combo... but I don't think it'll happen.
Almost
I almost mentioned not being afraid of the neo's, glad you said it. He wants to stick in their faces!
He can be impressive with his "no fear" Love America and the Constitution!
JV is provocative
and would be good for VP. He could be RP's muscle so to speak. There are many times we wish RP would just get tough and say some of the things he really wants but he has the class to hold his tongue and JV doesn't. So let JV take the $#!^ and do most of the dirty work. He knows how to shout them down. But I still think he wishes he would have been the one the Revolution turned to instead of RP.
LET"S GET REEEEAADY TOOOO RUUUUMMMMBBBLLE !!!
THIS WOULD BE THE SMACK DOWN TAG TEAM COMBINATION TO TAKE ' EM TO THE MAT !
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Yes 'n No
He's a "big force" folks!
The "Lion That Roars" per the video. Suspect he does that.
Believe in everything that he says, no. Support 'em, probably so. I wanna see these criminals locked up!
Dr. Paul is meek, Ventura is bold, "possibly a great combination" but with disagreements. Don't think that it would happen actually.
affirmation: President Paul
affirmation: President Paul 2008
Dr. Paul for President and he will make the right choice for VP:)
i would never vote for Jesse V....
never. he is a snake in the grass trying to derail the "R3VOLUTION".
I don't think he is...he's
I don't think he is...he's an opportunist trying to make a quick buck off the revolution!
I like him lots more than Gravel, though--Ventura is highly intelligent and always good to listen to.
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i will agree with you that he is at least ...
"opportunistic". if Jesse wanted to be part of the "revolution"...then why did he not do, for Ron Paul, what Chuck Norris did for Huck? because Jesse is about Jesse's glory...he does not care about anything else. if Jesse really believed in the freedoms granted by the Constitution...he would not have gotten himself in hot water with Christians by calling them "week minded people that need a crutch..." whike he was Gov. of Mn.
...and the proof you're going to provide is???
in your @ss!?!?
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Jesse is no different than...
mcCain, Huck, and all the others stealing Ron Paul's convictions and using them as their lines to try to convince people that they are just as good as Ron Paul (saying what they know the people want)...yet NONE of them have Ron Paul's voting record. i would call that a snake in the grass...who are just "more of the same" politicians that do not uphold their contract with the people...which is their oath of office.
I wouldn't take it that far.
I wouldn't take it that far. I see him much as I see Alex Jones...a slightly flawed opportunist who is still on the side of the Good Guys.
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Please elaborate. "It is
Please elaborate.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
opportunist
If he wants to do what is right he would.. I dunno... move back to the US, use whatever fading name recognition he has to get with a grassroots movement that feels the same as he says he does and go for broke. That would be a manly thing to do, indeed.
We are the movement. He has not joined. He has had the opportunity to do so.
Case closed.
If I were a rich man like
If I were a rich man like Ventura, I'd move out of the US, too. I certainly would offshore my assets, where it's harder for Uncle Sham to get his greedy fingers on them.
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You don't need to be rich.
You don't need to be rich. You can do very well for a long time on $10,000 in a third world country, if you are of simple means. My father got by on his Social Security check for years until he just couldn't do it anymore. He only came back to the US to die with loved ones present.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Case closed my ass. You
Case closed my ass. You really think if JV joined the revolution early on it would have made a difference in public opinion threw the lens of MSM? If he did then the retarded masses at large would not distinguish the difference between the two and he would be marginalized with the rest of us. If the retarded masses wouldn't get behind Paul before they would have no reason to look at JV now. The candidate that can overcome media bias and marginalization will need to stand on their own two feet and alone before the rush of support by any movement can begin. This is no different for Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, or any of the other lesser knowns and as far as I know these other lesser knowns haven't joined the revolution either because they're engaged in their own campaigns. Yet, you single out JV for this. That's hypocritical at best. So far the haters have provided nothing but hearsay and innuendo. I really don't think it's too much effort to post links to back up your claims.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Case Closed!
your ass? whatever...
I like Jesse but he is too caught up in being "jesse" to put any faith in the good doctor...he has had the chance on numerous interviews to "preach" the gospel but has chosen not to...its all about jesse to him, no one else, and everybody knows he is right now riding on RP's coat tails...oh, you mean all of a sudden he has this awkening to start spouting off about a revolution?
his "none of the above" comment REALLY ticked me off!
like i said, i like jesse but i'll bet you this right now...his revolution and his following will pale in comparison to the good doctor's revolution and following...wanna bet?
if he announced right now he was running for POTUSA i don't think he could get a million votes...if he wrote a book (which, i think he did) it would not reach #1 on the NYT best seller list
Case Closed!
except...i would like to see him learn from RP and be the #2 guy
...if he wrote a book? You need to wake up.
Spoken like true Johnny-come-lately. You can't look at the situation stemming from the revolution in a vacuum. You think RP started this thing? Well I got news for ya, this thing has been brewing for sometime. RP is just the most prominent and immediate catalyst of the times. If JV did exactly as you say then he would be literally riding coattails. Then promptly placed in the same category the media has place all RP's advisor's. JV is about himself because he has to STAND ON HIS OWN if he is to be taken seriously. You people need to get that. The reason you believe otherwise is collectivist brainwashing that you haven't shook off yet. I have said it many times and it stands without fail. Principle is 100%, 100% of the time. That means that if we cannot put RP in the Whitehouse based on RP's platform Principles then there is no way a JV endorsement is going to further the cause. The sleepers will not awaken for RP because they won't, if they would they would have done so by now. No, they need a different awakening and possibly a different catalyst. This is why we have the Bob Barr's the Chuck Baldwin's the Libertarian party the Constitution Party, DownsizeDC.org, JBS, FFI's of the world. Because no one entity can do it all.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
PULL IT TOGETHER
I want whatever line up will advance the cause. And that depends on timing and a number of factors. Certainly there is enough room in this movement for someone with Jesse’s credentials, talents and inclinations. He’s usually front and center. But he understands the concept of rank and coordinated effort. Happily Ron Paul's ego isn't a factor. There are a number of reasons to first consider Jesse for the # 2 slot.
Jesse has been one of the few people in politics you can take pretty much at face value. If he merely aspired to power, there have been plenty of paths of least resistance he has eschewed. Arnold Schwartzeneger provides a conspicuous example for those who wish a model of someone designing to bask in mainstream glory. Jesse relishes demonstrating every day, to himself and the world, that he is his own man. Jesse does not just seek applause; he needs to see himself as heroic. He does not strike me as the type who finds the usual self delusion of prevaricating politicians comfortable in his character. This movement has many heroes….so you know what I’m talking about. We could use a few more prominent heroes.
Now for those that have been snarking that Jesse is just a Johnny-come-lately riding the coat tails of Dr. Paul’s ideas, watch this interview ( note the date—He even looks like Genghis Khan in this interview ) : http://www.youtube.com/wa... “ you call it, not someone else”.
Look, I believe Jesse doesn’t want to push his way to the front of this parade. He’s not demure, but he’s a proud man. He is seeking to renew the acclamation on his own merits. Understandably he wants a warm reception, at least among cohorts.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Our original revolution required the independent and concerted efforts of all the Founding Fathers. There was a role and a moment for each. Jesse is no Tory – give him his due
If I could pull Ron Paul and Jesse aside right now, I would be talking strategies for heroic collaborative action that could not easily be ignored, and could, with a little grace and luck, SHAKE THE WORLD.
This would be a dream ticket for me!
I have tremendous respect for both of these two men. They are straight shooters and that's what who need serving in the Executive. Hope is alive and well in this Revolution. We must double our efforts and never stop fighting for liberty!
The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
JV wants to be VP
I recently read his book. I think he said something in there about wanting to be VP due to the strain on his family (and his wife's health) that would come with running for Prez.
I think a Paul/Ventura ticket could get some real traction; it would also give 'ol Jess a chance to learn from the master. Yes, JV has much to learn....but who better than RP to teach him?
Tho I don't agree with many of Ventura's social ideas, I do believe that he's honest....I also don't think he's owned by/beholden to the political power brokers like all the rest. Those reasons alone make me at least respect him.
Agreed--he'd be a good VP
Agreed--he'd be a good VP choice.
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Excellent interview....
I don't agree with everything RP says or everything JV says.
But I STRONGLY believe that if Ventura got to know RP better,and knew that he would have the most kick ass Group of grass roots supporters the world has seen, backing him up,he would go for it.
I think really this is the only way RP could have a chance at the brass ring.
If Ventura had a preplanned agreement with RP to run independent or librtarian before the convention,there could be some major leverage there.
The repubs know they would definitely get their butts kicked. who's to say with the voting machines these days.
I would almost dare to say that the media would HAVE to cover it....
Paul the brilliant economist and statesman,and Ventura, the straight talkin 800 lb gorilla that will take your head off if he doesn't like you.
Excellent interview though more things like this need to be discussed here, and everywhere else....
PAUL/VENTURA 08
THE DRAFT
quickly rising to Hurricane Force
Great Interview.
I like jessie. I think Paul and Ventura would make a good team.
I want to like Jesse, but
I want to like Jesse, but after he stated "None of the above" when he could have turned on about 1 million wrestling voters to Ron Paul but didn't. He's a tool.
That would accomplish
That would accomplish nothing. If Jessie is going to be taken seriously he needs to stand on his own with no affiliations. You're a tool if you can't see that.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
YUP!!!
If he was for real he would
have gone out of his way to
praise the Good Dr.
Name one celebrity or
Name one celebrity or semi-celebrity/political pundit that has praised RP and not been marginalized by the media.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
An Ultimatum Strategy for Ron
I posted this on another thread, but it's certainly pertinent here. I won't take up the space to recapitulate the article here ... just follow the link:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
I would definitely back Jesse Ventura...
Jesse has all the same stances as Ron Paul on all the issues except illegal immigration. Libertarians have chided Ron Paul for his anti illegal immigration position. Right, wrong, or indifferent, at least you know where these guys stand on the issues. Jesse has another strength as well, he is a forceful speaker and straight shooter. We all know that Ron Paul is a straight shooter, but sometimes his demeanor comes off as timid.
Also, Jesse has publicly ridiculed the official government story of 911. No other politician has had the guts to do so.
I believe, that a Ventura/Paul ticket could definitely compete and maybe even win.
But, that is just my opinion.
Think that's the ticket as well
for all the reasons you stated. They would win!
Right
I knew he was just blowing smoke on Larry King when he said it was too late for him to run and that he was not going to run.
I get so sick of hearing candidates play that deceitful game.
ST PAUL/ MINN -- Well Timed,This Would Be Siesmic
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Jesse is a bad choice.
Jesse is a bad choice.
For god sake are you ever
For god sake are you ever going to post something substantive?
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
If he did a bit more studying on libertarianism...
like Mises, Rothbard, Spooner, Friedman, etc I think he could be extremely powerful.
He is libertarian-leaning but from what I've seen he doesn't have a very solid grasp yet of the philosophy.
So hit the books Jesse!
ps. yes this is a very good interview!
In his new book Ventura tells that considered running...
with John McCain in 2000 if McCain would have dropped the GOP and became and Independent. He now of course, would not (ie. something called the War on Terror happened in '01)
This is just more weight to my thesis that he needs to do more reading.
So, he thought McCain was a good guy
Fool.
I think he's shallow and
I think he's shallow and opportunistic, or he wouldn't have liked McCain or (ever) supported Bush.
I still think he shows signs of intelligence and strength, though.
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Well, he needs to join the LP and come to Denver...
...or vice versa, which would shock EVERYBODY!
If Ron Paul runs
If Ron Paul runs Libertarian, he should be at the top of the ticket, shouldn't he..?
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Absolutely
positively.