FASCIST NV Chairman Bob Beers blog is CENSORING COMMENTS FROM OUT-OF-STATE POSTS? WHERE ARE NEVADA'S FINEST? WE OWN THIS STATE!
So this jackass posts the following on Ron Paul supporters on Bob's stupid blog:
# Jim Nance Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Dear Ron Paulers:
If you desire to win the hearts and minds of Republicans then I suggest do not try to wage a guerrila war in state conventions across the country. You guys are just pissing people off and creating an image that you are a bunch of loonies.
You should try to work toward the next election cycle. Perhaps try to win some seats in state assemblies. Hell, win a governor or senator seat to see if you can win a state wide race. Once you elect a governor then run that dude for president.
Right now, you guys are limited in your appeal. Ron Paul is still running for president. Yet, Hucklebee who dropped out months ago is still getting more votes in these recent primaries.
Lastly, do not cry about fairness. Paul only got 20% of vote in Nevada. You guys are trying to screw over the voters by getting him more than 20%. I think the voters will remember this for a long time.
GO to http://www.beers4nevada.o...
Only 50 comments on Bob's post. This is ridiculous and we need to stop these fascists from walking all over us. I am fed up!!!!
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Actually, he's wrong. Ron Paul got 14%
McCain got 13%
Romney won but since he dropped out the states second place candidate becomes the winner, that's RP by 436 votes.
Paul
6,087 Votes
14%
McCain
5,651 Votes
13%
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTI...
Jim Nance is a complete idiot...
who's opinion is worth a fart in a bag. What a child. I hope that his family is among the first to visit the nearest FEMA center. At least then he'll understand who the fascists are. Nance...you suck and you should read more. Idiot.
Oh, then there are his idiot friends who seem incensed over Ron Paul'ers "obstructionist activities" huh? Now who was being obstructionist...those using the rules or those breaking them? Idiots everywhere...and they are wearing McCain buttons. Idiots.
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may try to put delegates in the national election without having a state delegate election.
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We can all say what needs to be done, but who here led by example today?
Can we keep this thread going ot should I bury it?
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Please stop swatting at the
Please stop swatting at the hornets net with a stick at this time.
Anger and sarcasm will not help NV at this moment.
I have spoken with many heads there and helped guide them and things are under control.
When you swat at a hornets nest with a stick you are going to get stung once in a while.
I am asking not to take this path at this moment.
If you must comment make them all positive PLEASE!
Dr. Steve Parent
I can't go in to detail for
I can't go in detail for that is ill advised at this moment give the nature of the situation in NV.
Why do you want the names of the people? I have no clue who you are and i am not releasing any names.
You people do not understand how this game is played and these are the things that do not give positive results.
All i am asking is to wait until NV is resolved then you can hammer his email box for all i care but at this moment it is better not to do so for it will change nothing.
Dr. Steve Parent
You need not specify...
....I understand if you don't want to release any names, but this seems like it could be BIG news for those who are working hard in Nevada. Why should they step back and trust that you, sir, have everything under control? Could you atleast give us a general idea of what is going on and explain how exactly everything is under control?
-Dr. Charles Good Kid-
Yes sir i can.I have spoken
Yes sir i can.
I have spoken with many meetup heads in the state and they are doing exactly what needs to be done.
You do not need to take my word for it; however, I can't go into detail of the suituation or strategy at this time.
I wish I didn't have to be vague on this issue but at this point I have no other choice.
Dr. Steve Parent
Please elaborate
SGP wrote: "I have spoken with many heads there and helped guide them and things are under control."
First question, who did you speak with (name or title) and how exactly are things now under control? I agree that we should be positive in our comments but I feel you are discouraging people from asking questions and demanding answers from Senator Beers, who broke the very rules of a process to which you are considered the expert.
-Dr. Charles Good Kid-
Do you have an update for us bro?
What about the censoring comments on the blog?
Should Bob Beers censor posts that favor Ron Paul?
Should we wait for September and just let them walk all over us?
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Update please!
I want to know how everything is under control....
My response to Jim Nance
Jim Nance,
We are not afraid to piss people off. We are afraid of letting the neo-marxist/neo-cons that are in control of the Republican party continue their “empire building” policies that are leading to the bankruptcy of America. We are afraid of the ongoing expansion of government power and control over our lives and property. We are afraid that our children’s children will be still paying in both blood and treasure for the foreign adventurism of the Bush Administration.
And, yes, we are concerned about a “presumptive nominee” date that is more liberal than some democrats and more inclined to militarism than Bush, Cheney and Bill Clinton combined. America has the strongest military in the world. We should be respectful of that awesome power and the awesome responsibility that comes with the push of a button. We should also not delude ourselves that our economic health is not being eroded by the expense of foreign military operations and commitments.
The Republican party has always been the party that faces reality. The party that is able to cast off the emotional propaganda and see clearly to the true costs of uncontrolled government spending and power. We have won elections by promising to correct the “nation building” of Democrat administrations.
We are not dreamers, crazies, newbies, or kooks. We are U.S. citizens. We are members of the Republican Party. We are not guerilla warriors creating chaos. We have studied the rules and are ready to operate within the bounds of the system. We have that right. We have the right to vigorously pursue the election of candidates that represent our views and hopes. We did not set up the caucus system. We did not create “Robert’s Rules of Order”.
The fact that we have invested the time and energy to get elected in the caucus system and learn the rules of order to pursue the nomination of a candidate that represents our views is the foundation upon which our Constitutional Republic was built. If membes of the party that support Mr. Romney or Mr. Huckabee wanted to participate in the caucus system, they have that right, they had that opportunity to be elected as delegates. Don’t blame us if they didn’t show up.
So, no, we don’t care if you get pissed off. The Republican party is not your personal play thing. It doesn’t belong to you. It doesn’t belong to Bob Beers and it certainly doesn’t belong to George Bush or John McCain. It belongs to all of us Americans that participate in the Republican process to elect leaders that represent our views.
Lastly, you admonish us for wanting the process to be fair. That isn’t a “fair” assessment. We just want the process to be conducted in accordance with the rules. We want the people that administer the process to be bound by the rules that they created.
That you would support the legitimacy of the leadership’s manipulation and disregarding of the rules in support of any one candidate is a clear demonstration of why the GOP is headed for a landslide defeat in November.
Now that’s something to be pissed about.
I love this letter. I hope
I love this letter. I hope he reads it. His was mostly a reasonable one, reflecting his views. Perhaps you will get him to rerereflect.
haha
what's funny is: technically when they convene the remainder of the convention, they will first have to close the last meeting by parlimentary proceedure in order to open the new session?
Who says their going to ever reconviene
Whats really funny is will McCancer need the delegates from Nevada to win the nomination. The party is so lost right now that they would rather fall in line with a freaking liberal war monger NEOCON than factually represent the new direction of the party. These FASCISTS NEED TO BE STOPPED NOW!
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I am physically ill.
I did not need to read that. Of course he only got 14%. With the media treatment and the smearing. McCain didn't win the state anyway so why should the party be so behind McCain who is the least conservative of all. This is a vicious loop that needs to be broken.
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We can all say what needs to be done, but who here led by example today?
The gag reflexes are at a all-time high
t's hard to comment back when your responses are censored. I thought something was fishy when there are way too many pro McCancer posts on that blog. Bob Beers is a bastard.
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AHH! i cant read some of
AHH! i cant read some of that without wanting to freak out!
F*CK PARTY UNITY! They can Suck it! Ron is getting a write in in November from this republican. Screw McCain!
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:59 am
There is a recent article spreading across the web. http://www.americanfreepr... Petrified about Ron Paul. It is a tribute to our young people and future voters. Comments here seem to validate this article. What is the harm in having fresh new ideas introduced into our party? The American people seem to have come at odds with the less than conservative Republican party and what it has become of late. I am reminded of a quote I have read recently: “A substantial portion of the conservative movement has become a parody of its former self. Once home to distinguished intellectuals and men of letters, it now tolerates and even encourages anti-intellectualism and jingoism that would have embarrassed earlier generations of conservative thinkers.” From The Revolution. by Ron Paul
I posted something last night
It's not there today.
The Way To Stop These Guys From Doing These Things
All we have to do is to begin posting their personal information. The establishment types have another double standard. They only believe that they are entitled to our information and we are not entitled to theirs because they are special and not part of the masses. They are our leaders and they know what is best for each one of us. A recent example is that McCains wife wil not reveal the information on her last tax filing. McCain wants openess and transparancy for everyone but them.
I suggest we post their names, addresses, telephone and cell numbers, email addresses, fax numbers, make and model of the car they drive, memberships they have, summer homes they own, boats and planes they own, the church they attend and any other information we can locate. They already know all of this about each of us and can pull this information up anytime they want. Lets turn the tables on them and watch how fast they scream unfair.
We should stick to the principal and if you want anything to
CHANGE, we need to get rid of electronic voting machines.....
BTW my comment was CENSORED by Bob's site
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There are some great comments also:
Robert Holloway Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I sometimes find unexpected things when surfing the Internet. Today I found a post written by my son Jason that I did not know about. I think it is well written and provides sound advice to party leaders about their terrible mistake in recessing the convention:
“I was at the Nevada State Republican Convention. I was involved in the process leading up to it. Our strategy amounted to reading Robert’s Rules of Order, reading the proposed convention rules as espoused by the Party leadership, and showing up. There was no attempted “takeover”. We were motivated, excited to participate in the process, and everyone else stayed home.
Before the party leadership illegally recessed the convention without a discussion or a vote we managed to elect 7 out of the first 9 delegates to the national convention. We were on our way to capturing 80% to 90% of Nevada’s entire slate of delegates (31).
The main problem is that the Republican Party leadership is not well acquainted with people expressing contrary opinions. The leaders I’ve come in contact with are incredibly uncomfortable with any individual standing up and saying, “Mr. Chairman, Point of Order” or “Mr Chairman, Point of Inquiry”.
What the Republican Party leadership likes to see is a well managed convention with zero discussion or debate. The problem is that there is no way Ron Paul supporters will win any delegates, or change anyone’s mind on any issue if we do not open up the convention process to allow contrary opinions.
The Party Establishment in Nevada seemed shocked that a super majority of delegates might actually want a fair and honest method of selecting delegates to the National Convention, rather than to rely on a handful of people in a nominations committee.
I ask you: What is the point of attending any precinct caucus in the entire country if the whole thing is rigged at the State Convention? Why even go to a State convention if the only thing you do is listen to a few boring speeches, pray to God, and salute the flag? That’s not the point of a convention. The point of a convention is to decide how the party will operate, and what the goals will be until the next convention. This requires debate, discussion, and sometimes results in conflict. And in the long term it is good for the Republican Party.
and
# Hennah Says:
May 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
I think that the most disheartening thing that I’ve heard since the convention is that it’s “those Ron Paul people” making everything so difficult. If I had to sum it up, I would have to say that with the exception of the last hour of the convention, everything was lively in a positive way. What is democracy without debate?
I understand that there are people who are *not* supporters of Ron Paul, but what they need to understand, is that he has swollen the ranks of the Republican Party, and *everyone* has a right to be heard.
Nevada is a state with *unbound* delegates. This is important. So many of us were drawn to the party with Dr. Paul’s refreshing words and ideas. There is nothing wrong with this. If our party refuses to accept new blood and fresh voices, we will fall. It isn’t just about backing “one candidate for the party”…it’s about re-awakening passion in democracy with the voters.
I am a college student who was apathetic about all of this until I heard Dr. Paul speak. He roused my patriotism. He reminded me that my vote could matter. He let me know that the ideas I believe in can be more than just ideas. I came to the party with fresh hopes. I’m not the only one either. We are the new faces and voices of the Republican Party, so let us participate! We aren’t here to sabatoge anything, we’re here, because in America, we have the right to have a *choice*.
For me, I believe in Ron Paul. I also believe that everyone has a right to believe in whomever they choose…let’s stop berating members of our own party just because they choose differently.
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Excellent!
This is the way to let the party elites know that they don't control everything...the best way to do this is to beat them at their own game by knowing the rules better than they do, by being organized, and by taking strategic action.
Oh, and if there are any attorneys out there, perhaps someone should look into the RICO statutes to see if they can be applied to the various State GOP convention "leadership" groups to see if they can be prosecuted for attempting to disenfranchise legitimate delegates and violating their civil rights.
Remember the original movie "Walking Tall" with Joe Don Baker as Buford Pusser? He moved the corrupt judges' chambers into the men's room because he had the lawful ability to do so. In the very same way, the delegates need to be better prepared and better informed than the elites and have a working "chess strategy" to outmaneuver these clowns at every turn. Remember, we are fighting a war and these folks will stoop at nothing (including violating laws, bylaws, and ethics codes) to retain their POWER. The RP rEVOLution is about the people regaining control of this country from the bureuacrats, fascists, socialists, communists, military-industrial complex and bankers at every level of politics. You are doing it at the local level! And all politics is local. Great job!
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