Thought you might be interested in this..Christians
Posted May 10th, 2008 by Frank4Dr
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The State Department “Office of Global Anti-Semitism” says the New Testament claim that the Jews had Christ crucified is “classical anti-Semitism”—a historic form of hate. It included as an “anti-Semitic incident” the case of a Polish priest who said Jews killed Christ.Folks ,if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ...the government is about to come after you.I read this on infowars.com..one world government...one world religion..things are moving at a break neck speed...they know that a lot of folks are getting wise to them and they are trying to move fast before everyone else wakes up. Dr. Ron has awaken a lot of folks. We owe him a lot.
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Thanks for the heads up, and WTF!!!!!!!
I read your post and thought to myself...yeah...I'll have a look. Our State Dept. couldn't possibly be that F'd up, right?
WRONG!!
Go here --> http://www.state.gov/g/dr... and under 'Defining Anti-Semitism' you'll find this gem...
"Contemporary examples of anti-Semitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:
Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis. "
I'm speechless. So, how long will it be before the New Testament is considered hate speech? Where's the spearation of church and state here? This is our government telling you what you should & shouldn't believe. WTF!!!!!
If you could spare some time?
Does anybody know approximately, how many religions exists?
For example >> 10, 25 maybe 50? How many? “Answer Here”.
Working off the first answer, how many religions would allow my membership(s) simultaneously?
For example >> 10, 25 maybe 50? How many? “Answer Here”.
Is it possible to [LOVE] everyone in [ALL] religions?
Simply, YES or NO. “Answer Here”.
At what age did you accept your religious beliefs?
For example >> (Birth too 10), (10-25), (25-50) or (50 and over)?
In ending, as we can all see by this thread? There are many scholarly participants in their respective comment(s). I’m looking too my fellow [Patriots] for understanding, as I am impressed with the abundance of knowledge expressed in this particular thread.
Yes, my question(s) above were crafted quite carefully so as to [NOT] discredit or insult any one individual.
If you have given me your valuable time, by reading thus far, I respectfully ask if you would kindly offer your time and honestly answer the aforementioned question(s). If you decide too answer, thank you. If you decide not too answer, thank you.
I feel sincere Love, for [ALL] of you individually at the current time. May good things come to you and those for whom you sincerely Love as well.
Loving Regards, F4F… “Onward” >>>
What you believe too be true, is true too you... :-)
Only two religions
The one man designed and the one God created.
uh, source?
A citation of this is a good idea. Otherwise it's just garbage.
As a side note.... it was
As a side note.... it was the SIN's of man that killed Jesus not the Jews. I may be brain dead, but I fail to recall were exactly it says that the Jews killed Jesus... maybe you can point that out to me... Be that as it may, any pastor or priest that says that, is saying something that is not in the bible...
Tim
1Th 2:14 For ye, brethren,
1Th 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
1Th 2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
1Th 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Oh my friend, you fall into
Oh my friend, you fall into the same trap as most Christians.. You fail to read and interprete the correct way. The reference is to the leaders and not the people. The leaders were Jewish yes, and the wrath is upon them (the leaders)... As stated below, it was the Sin's of man that drove Jesus to willingly be placed upon the cross. Jewish Leaders or Gentile leaders, Jesus had to be placed on the cross...
Tim
Christians are to fear NO MAN
Only fear HE who can toast your soul.....don't forget this.
The most ancient governments
The most ancient governments were religion, usaully with the "King" being himself God. And then, as today, FEAR was used to control the masses, they were to submit to that rule or something horrid would be inflicted upon them. So the few forced the many into submission though FEAR.
The FEAR of Eternal damnation in hell. Eternal, for ever, never ending, and that's a mighty long time folks. BURNING in hell, a lake of fire, extreme pain. Eternal Burning, in Hell, a never ending lake of painful fire. The ultimate in FEAR, not in this short life on Earth, but in your after life, FOREVER, never ending. The ultimate fear, to begat the ultimate in submission.
This entire idea was long ago forced upon people through fear itself. Non beleivers were put to death. To give the people a strong visual of HELL, these non believers were often burned at the stake. People could see the agony of Hell as the persons feet began to burn, then their legs, their genitile area, then their midsection burning, all the time fully alive and aware. The ultimate in torturous Hell, and then the spectator could imagine this same punishment, eternally, for themselves. Therefore though FEAR of death in THIS life, people submitted to conversion. And for love of their children and fear of losing them, they taught their children the religion AS IF it were sincerely true. Children, having faith in mom and pop, grew beleiving it to be so.
The Christian Doctrine: You are born of sin. ALL born into this world are sinners, FROM BIRTH. Therefore ALL born into this world are a piece of crap worthy of Eternal Damnation. BUT!!! There is one, and only one, way to the great REDEMPTION. And that is submission to Christ. Unfortunately, Christ is no longer with us, please go to your nearest Priest, he can instruct you in the precise methods (submissions) you will need to follow to receive you redemption. But remember, YOU MUST do this, or SUFFER, repeat, SUFFER, in a BURNING Lake of Eternal HELL.
Fear is, and has always been, the mighty controller of the masses.
Maybe the CPS
should take all the Christian children away from their parents too...and the Catholics...and the Jews...and the Muslims...hmm...brainwashed from birth to obey or fear of damnation....that would not leave many "enlightened" ones to take care of all the children for us. But I'm sure you would all do a much better job.
that day will come...
soon enough.
Atheists, also beware
"Muslims routinely use human shields, and this accounts for much of the collateral damage we and the Israelis cause; the political discourse throughout much of the Muslim world, especially with respect to Jews, is explicitly and unabashedly genocidal. Given these distinctions, there is no question that the Israelis now hold the moral high ground in their conflict with Hamas and Hezbollah." - Sam Harris
http://www.samharris.org/...
I know some may not agree
but I think we owe Alex Jones and infowars.com alot, too. I was first turned on to Ron Paul because of this website, and many others I know were, too.
Me too....and Texe Marrs
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington
It Has Become Apparent the Zionist
Jews who control all the money in the world, making them the world controllers, are trying to destroy Christianity and make Judism the dominant religion. They are in control of the ACLU, most huge homosexual action groups such as GLAAD, Queer Nation, NGRL http://judicial-inc.biz/R..., the Souther Poverty Law Center http://www.truthtellers.o..., all aimed at attacking Christianity at its core. They are the ones behind the anti-Christmas agenda, though they try to play it off as Atheist behind the movement http://www.truthtellers.o... The funny or not so funny thing is Judism is not in the Bible, it is a creation by the Zionists, and used to make them out as superior. Also, most Jews (about 85%) are from a converted people the Khazars(in the 9th century), not from the lineage of the Isrealites http://www.bibliotecapley... I have friends who are Palestinian Christians, who left the region because of persecution by the Jews, and claim they never really had much trouble from the Muslims, as the MSM and Zionist try to portray. Oh, by the way they control the MSM and Hollywood too. Have you ever researched how many cabinet members and advisers are dual citizens, and were the main provacateers for attacking Iraq and more likely than not, Iran. Christians and even non-Christians had better wakeup to who is really pulling the strings, that are leading us into destruction, whether it be wars or the failing economy. People might say I'm being anti-Semetic, but I say I'm being pro-America, and following the warnings given by Christ about these people several times throughout the New Testement.
Also, the only thing special
Also, the only thing special about the Jewish race in God's eyes, is that he CHOSE them because they were the worst of the worst. By doing this, God is glorified because he shows to all creation that he is forgiving to the worst and the best. They are the chosen people of God for a very unique reason... Keep lets keep it in perspective... you can change nothing that is already planned..
Tim
Fascinating
I have Christian Lebanese friends who's families have been persecuted by Muslims for hundreds of years, but never by Jews. They also tell me that when the Palestinians were in charge Christians were forbidden to even visit holy places such as The Church of the Nativity, let alone pray there. Christians were not allowed to pray at their most holy sites in the country known as Palestine. Israel lets people pray to whatever god they want. The Israeli cabinet has Palestinian members. Name a Muslim country with Jews or Christians in their governing body. Oh right I forgot, the Muslim nations are virtually all dictatorships and Israel is a democracy.
And who cares. Let them run their own sovereign country.
I really don't know why you put this antagonistic post up. It only perpetuates the propagandist view that Ron Paul supporters are whack jobs.
Or maybe that is why you posted it.
You Are Wrong
The Holy Land was open to Christians before 1948. Mark Twain visited the Holy Land and wrote about it in "The Innocents Abroad." There are thousands of other refrencess to open travel in the Holy Land before 1948.
It was Israeli forces who barricaded the Church of the Nativity several years ago.
In 1948, 20% of the Palestinian people were Christian. Now, only 2% are Christian. The Palestinian Christians are allied with Muslims in defense against the mutual enemy -- the encroaching all-Jewish state of Israel.
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Flagged
for your racism and poor spelling. If you're going to hate something, at least have the guts to spell it correctly. It's Judaism not Judism.
Sieg Heil "freedom" express.
I left my Ron Paul meetup
I left my Ron Paul meetup group because our leader tried to restrict my freedom of speech. Be careful what you do here. I find most freedom loving people to be very tolerant,as long as someone is trying to make an informed point.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
He has the right to speak.
I have the right to flag.
You call it an informed point, I call it borderline Nazism.
"Jews who control all the money in the world, making them the world controllers, are trying to destroy Christianity and make Judism the dominant religion."
Sieg Heil.
You choose not to look at the facts
Did you read any of the links? I am not against Jews as a whole, but it is factual the people who control the Fed, the MSM, Hollywood, many cabinet and advisors to the president, the State Dept, the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the majority of anti-gun legislation, the pro-homosexual movement, are led by Jews, which are taking our country down. If you are a Jew who believes in the Torah, you should be against what they are doing. If you have been sold on the teachings of the Talmud, then you will not be against what they are doing, and believe I am a racist. The Torah is the word of God YHVH, the Talmud is the oral teachings meant to place Jews above the Goy (Gentiles/Christians). I read the Bible whether the Old Testement or Torah and the New Testement to say those who believe in YHVH are all equal in his eyes. However, even as Dennis Prager, who is Jewish, said a few days ago, America is a nation founded by Christians. I was decieved by the Christian Zionists into believing in their cause, but researched the Bible and could not find any reference to their cause. I am frankly PO'd about it, but I must forgive them for their deceptive sins. The Christian Zionist and the Jewish Zionist are leading the cause for attacking Iran, who has not attacked another country in hundreds of years. I am doing all I can to expose the Zionist Christians, but when I say anything about the Jews, I'm called anti-semitic or racist. Think about it, if Iran attacked Israel, they would destroy the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, which the Muslims consider "The Noble Sanctuary". The whole Muslim world would attack them for destroying this Holy site of the Qu'ran. I am not trying to attack the Torah believing Jews, but I am trying to make aware of the Zionist Jews plot to keep the world in chaos, and the destruction of America. If the Jews want to fight for Israel, so be it, but Americans shouldn't be dying for their cause.
I am neither Christian nor Jew.
Mythology is mythology.
I think the word you are looking for is goyim (plural for goy).
No, Americans shouldn't be dying for any foreign country. However, I still find you an apologist for racism.
sorry if this came off as being anti-Jewish
Everyone has a God given right to practice whatever faith they believe in..and we all should defend their right as well as our own..the point i was getting at in this post was" all organized faiths are in the target..ALL....but i believe the center of the target...the big red dot is the bible believing Christian...again i apoligize if it sounded anti-Jewish...i AM NOT...I do believe the bible and all the words of it.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington
Elites
Christ was killed by the political and business elites of the day. They saw him as a threat to their power structure. These are same type people taking us down the tubes today.
That's why I call the Masonic pastors
like Hagee, Graham, and probably Huckabee..the "modern-day Pharisees"
The Jewish people did not curicify Jesus
A FEW of the Jewish leaders considered him a threat to their authority. The actions of a few people do not represent the will of the people at large. Besides it was the roman soldiers that carried out the deed.
Blaming the entire Jewish people for the actions of a few
would be just like blaming the entire RP grassroots for the actions of a few. It ain't rocket science folks!
No, the Jews of the
No, the Jews of the Sanhedrin crucified Jesus. The Romans did their best to defuse the situation and finally genuflected to the will of the mob.
On the other hand Jesus was a Jew, so I've never understood the crucifixion being some sort of basis for anti-Semitism. All it illustrates is the sin nature of Man.
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Actually
Jehovah crucified Yah'shua.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
Yes, that was the cup He was
Yes, that was the cup He was to drink from, but there were still sinful human beings involved in the process.
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Agreed
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Zionist Occult thread
As an educated Jew I challange any of you to respond to my comments regarding the illogical fallacies of the New Testamant, Xtianity and its Messiah candidate.
In response to an ignoramus, Ashkenaz refers to the natives of that area. . . thus Ashkenazic Jews refer to Jews in that area. Ashkenazic is an adjective demonstranting geographical location no descent. Just as Sephardic refers to Jews who lived in Sepharad (Spain) and Yemeni Jews refer to Jews who live in Yemen.
This would be analgous to saying New York Jews are descended from native population of New York or Japanese Jews living in Tokyo are descended from the native Japanese population.
your argument is with God...
i posted in another thread, the Prophets, prophetic words that God gave them in God's Word in the Old Testament and how Jesus Christ fulfilled them. if you chose not to believe, that is your right. But Jesus Christ fulfilled all prophecies of the spring feast shadow pictures there are...and will soon fulfill the fall feast prophecies.
you did not address them at all.
The AshkeNAZIs
are Khazars, and in no way related the Hebrews of the Old Testament. They do not share the same bloodline as Abraham, Isaac, and Moses.
So "enlighten" us, educated one, about the Kabbalah and the Talmud.
I've heard that Kabbalah is the original souce of most modern-day occult practices.
And the Talmud says Jesus was a sorceror, was hung for being one, he's boiling in excrement in hell, his mother was a whore, Christians should be treated like cattle, and it's ok to have sex with children. I'm going to go find those sources.
but really
Fortune Favors the Bold
what would it matter if they were from the green moon of krypton? totally irrelvant. bloodline isn't (or shouldn't) a basis for land claims.
secondly,sure, there are a lot of horrible things in the old testamanet, but since christianity considers the talmud (or the old testament) part of its scripture as well, any criticism of it is a valid criticism of christianity as well.
They should fight for their own battles
and Americans shouldn't be dying for their agendas. The Talmud is not the Old Testement. The Torah is the Old Testement. The Talmud is oral teachings separate from the Word of YHVH (God), and says things like the Goyim (the Gentiles) are no more than cattle. It says it is good to kill the Goyim. The Talmud says the Jews are the superior race, and to use the Goyim to do their biddings. If Christians learned of this teaching and weren't so decieved by the Zionist Christian leaders, they would demand a reason most of the Presidents cabinet and advisors, plus the State Dept. are dual citizens with Israel, and why they are in control of the Worlds money (House of Rothschild), which is why we are at war for Israel in Iraq (Iran?), and our economic troubles. Here is a brave Christian Rev. Ted Pike speaking the truth: http://www.truthtellers.o... What is the Talmud:
http://jesus-messiah.com/...
Noahide Laws
"Who Was Jesus?
The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d."
See: http://www.noahide.com/ye...
Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson who promoted these ideas has had (since the 1970s) an offical national holiday (on his birthday) in the US called "Education Day U.S.A."
Do your own research, Google the following topics:
Schneerson
Education Day
Noahide
well
Fortune Favors the Bold
ok,I am not a biblical scholar, and I agree with you about the fight your own battles thing, I just think it's sort of unfair to single out judaism for having some questionable things in the scripture. Objectively, all the religions have a few scripture passages that make you sort of raise an eyebrow.
If you REALLY want answers...
... to your questions, I would respectfully suggest that you start here:
http://www.jewsforjesus.o...
But in the meantime, let's agree that we want to promote Ron Paul and his ideas in our land, where there is room for everyone and their religious beliefs (as long as they don't try to kill us if we don't convert to their brand! lol ) Liberty to worship Messiah in Peace!
Shalom.
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
Very good
[57chevypreterist] excellent post...thank you
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington
I like that !
Thank you [57chevypreterist] it shows me your "intellect ", I for one admire you comment! for what its worth, too me "ALOT" >>> "Onward"
What you believe too be true, is true too you... :-)
Thank you
for your kind comments.
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
IF you Really want answers
Equally. .. .
http://Jewsforjudaism.com
I think we should remove religion from policy and return to the role of religion as Jefferson and Franklin intended.
Remember, Moses was the first revolutionary.
Remember though...
...that the Constitution is based upon Biblical principles. The Magna Carta, the "Divine Right of Kings" (not!), the English Common law, the writings of Locke and Montesquieu, the Mayflower Compact; all of these ideas stem from the idea that Jehovah is the Creator and Authority of civil government as well, and that is where our civil laws originate, so to speak.
So the idea is that civil law is someone's idea of proclaiming and enforcing morality; the question is, who's morality should we use? Sharia law? "Secular" morality (if there is such a thing?)
While our country and our Constitution are based upon the Judeo-Christian ethic, citizens are not required to become Jews or Christians to live and flourish here. But the people of G-d know that "Blessed is the Nation Whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12).
For more info on what the Founding Fathers believed regarding religion and morality, including Jeffeson and Franklin (in their own words), check out: http://www.wallbuilders.c...
And since you are an educated Jew, may I respectfully direct you to these writings, written by a Jew to Jews, which explain why the Mosaic Covenant was insufficient to remove sin?
http://www.biblegateway.c...
Shalom!
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
The Constitution is based on "Nature's God"
which is a Deist term and not Judeo-Christian.
What Christian would write the following (many more examples are available):
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823, quoted from James A Haught, "Breaking the Last Taboo" (1996)
"It is between fifty and sixty years since I read the Apocalypse, and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy, nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams..."
-- Thomas Jefferson, to Alexander Smyth, January 17, 1825
"We find in the writings of his biographers ... a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstitions, fanaticisms and fabrications."
-- Thomas Jefferson, to William Short, August 4, 1822, referring to Jesus's biographers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Thomas Paine was a Deist to the core. George Washington himself said that America was not a Christian nation, etc, etc. Most of the examples given for their Christianity are public speeches and public documents. However, in their private letters, it is a different story. Would a true Christian write anti-Christian letters to his friends/contemporaries?
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My Favorite
Treaty of Tripoli
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
Unanimously passed by the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by President John Adams on June 10, 1797.
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Ah, the old "Treaty of Tripoli" argument
http://www.wallbuilders.c...
Context, context, context!
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
It's Not an Argument
It's the law of the land.
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