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Rhino: We all have our roles.

Some like to lead.
Some like to follow.
Some have comfort in their existing lives.
Some do not.
We are all equals, we simply choose the roles that we are best at or feel most comfortable with.
Some may feel that their choices are limited by their circumstances. Circumstances of choice and circumstances of birth. Circumstances that are reinforced by policy and circumstances that are dictated by policy.
Some choose the intellectual battle.
Some choose the physical battle.
Some choose both.

The battle will be to turn non-humans into humans. We are all enfranchised, human or not, so we must make humans out of the ones that have chosen not to exist. Once we have convinced them to become human, we then must convince them to choose freedom. So this task is two fold and must be done in the order described.

I have filled all these roles in my somewhat modest life. Modest in age and means. Most of us, in our lives, have done the same.

We all have our roles.

If you exist, you have entered the battle. You know what to do. Do not alienate those that choose roles that are different, or less meaning, or less influential.

We all have our roles.

All the newcomers out there this is what we are all about. Pick a role and go out and achieve your goals.

We all have our roles.

This will take time and Dr. Ron Paul knew this. He has never shown urgency. He knew that the odds were slim that he would be alive when his dream is recognized. The time chose him; he did not choose the time.

Note: I said the odds are slim, but the movement, as Dr. Paul states every chance he gets, has taken on a life of its own, much larger than even he thought possible.

We all have our roles.

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Over here Rhino.

Better continued here than on that other thread.

Please explain what you meant about the irony.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH KILL KILL KILL DIE DIE!!!!

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

Will Save for Later Reading

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

let this thread DIE!!!

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

Perhaps you did not see...

...Michael Nystrom's bump not too far below.

This is a good thread. It is relevant.

WAHOR!! http://www.dailypaul.

Rhino is irrelevant

I honestly wouldn't trust him with a loaded weapon. Anybody who has deep rooted denial such as rhino is hiding something far worse then they let on.

Hi Oruval.

I know you, and many others, have doubts about Rhino...and maybe even rightly so.

But as I told Sarge further down, this is a good thread topic. It applies to the movement. It applies on a personal level. All kinds of things determine the roles we play.

Our roles change. We have to reassess things, re-examine them from time to time, take inventory. To move forward, we have to be able to do these things.

Oruval, glean where you can...

...even from your enemies.

What's a wahor? --- "Live

What's a wahor?

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"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -- General John Stark.

Kinda Like A...

whore but slightly different.....hi rhino : )
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Did you just ask what a WAHOR is in a thread called

We All Have Our Roles ?

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Live like you mean it ..... Your life is your own !
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YAAAAAWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

I don't get it.

?????????/

Who are the censors on DP?

I've wondered who they are and why the censor some stories?

Here we go again with the Literary Napoleon Syndrome...

Why do you have to start your thread that way? Don't let the mod thing go to your head now...

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

I can understand why you are absolutely convinced that ...

I am a mod.

Afterall ...

You are absolutely convinced that 9/11 was an IJ and CD.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I am convinced that the official story is nothing less than a

fairy tale that should only be taken seriously by children under the age of 10 that also believe in the tooth fairy and SANTA CLAUS!
NIGHT NIGHT SWEETIE!

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

Wait

Here is another one you missed.

LOL.

bump.

bump.

Goading?

Are you goading these guys?

A very appreciated bump ...

Not sure if you know this, but this post made the front page at one time.

Of all my posts ... this one defines who I am.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Our roles....

...a topic that is relevant all the time.

Rhino, just what do you call that role...

...where you laughed about someone's unexpected disappearance?

And what do you call that role where you said, "to spend a minute of your life being concerned about him, is a completely wasted minute"?

Exactly what role are you playing, Rhino, when you say such things?

What if you were missing? Would the minute that someone spent being concerned about you be a waste?

What if it was your wife or children? What if it was your friend?

Rhino, even if it is your enemy...

...it is not a waste of time to care.

That "LOL" of yours was one too many.

You better be glad you did not do that in person in front of me.

exactly, jiminy...

this is the kind of person we are dealing with here...do not be surprised if he doesn't reply to you...

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

He did reply.

It was dealt with on another thread.

And to anyone who might be wondering, yes there was remorse.

Still True

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World's Greatest Business
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"The Number one reason people lose money is the FEAR of losing money." Sir John Templeton

I feel my role

is one of truth.. I see the Constitution as the Founding fathers wrote it as a document that has given human kind a light of knowledge. It's sad that Banking interests over time have hijacked it and put the 14th and 16th amendments into it knowing full well that it would enslave the populace.

What do you feel is the significance of the Constitution as it was originally written?

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Rhino can you give me a little background on your discovery...

...and acceptance of objectivism.

I had asked you on another thread a few days ago, "At what point did you see yourself that way, or did you decide to be that?"

Would you be willing to elaborate a little here?

Also, I have been wondering for a while now, if you are not using different meanings of some key words you use a lot, than what is commonly understood by the rest of us, similar to what LivingTheDream below points out below with the word "selfishness".

"Selfishness", "conscience", "morality", even "reason", "faith", and "Christian". Sometimes when we talk, or you and Khomar even, I don't think you are using such words to mean the same thing as we understand them.

Just trying to understand, as our discussions may depend on us being on the same page with such terminology.

Anyway, if you wouldn't mind, could you give some background? Thanks

We all know horatiusatthegate's role: Professional TOOL!

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Mods

Why are you allowing 86theFed to flagrantly violate the Forum Posting Guidelines? Is 86 special? Why is he allowed to break the rules here, but others are warned or blocked for the same behavior. The rules should be enforced uniformly.

The rule he is breaking, with the above post, is this one.
"Engaging in flame wars or personal attacks on other members"

Waaahhh....

now that you've lost one of your brethren you sure are crying...

Revolt For Freedom !!!

The rule he is breaking,

The rule he is breaking, with the above post, is this one.
"Engaging in flame wars or personal attacks on other members"

and you have a halo around your head and have never done it!??

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

He/she was recently banned , not sure why he/she is back.

I will look into it.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

Insha Allah

This thread will be closed. Its from July for Odins sake. Jesus Christ.

Please do not close this thread.

As Khomar said, the conversations are current. Rhino isn't the one bumping it.

This is a good thread topic. It applies to the movement. It applies on a personal level. All kinds of things determine the roles we play.

Our roles change. We have to reassess things, re-examine them from time to time, take inventory. To move forward, we have to be able to do these things.

That element is present in Khomar's discussions and mine with Rhino. There are other good comments here as well.

Others can surely appreciate the pause to think about our roles and what determines and affects them, even if they do not participate in the current discussion.

If others do not want to comment on this thread when it is revived, there are plenty of other topics to pick from.

While some people do not like Rhino or his posts, this is a good thread topic and always applies.

Please do not make people reluctant to post here, or make Rhino afraid to respond because of "flack" he might get about it being an old thread. Again, the conversations are current.

If this thread is closed, would our discussions here be lost? There is a lot here that we are still exploring in our current conversations.

Please don't let this be lost, even if Rhino does make a new thread.

Thank you SSgT_AF

The original thread is old,

The original thread is old, but the conversations taking place right now are current. Please do not close this thread. Those who do not wish to participate can simply ignore the thread.

or

Make an updated thread? Rhino: WARHOR revisited?

It would appear that this

It would appear that this discussion could be moving into the "I love money!" thread, as this pertains more directly to our conversation about selfishness.

Are you asking me?

Not sure why that would make a difference.

Just curious ...

Are there any other threads that were inactivated that made the front page besides the fact that they may have turned out to be fraudulent?

WAHOR!!
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Fraudulent... Thats A Good Word Rhino....

kind of describes the essence of your being... What MeetUp group was that you belonged to again??? Where you spread all that "truth". We had a shithead shill that got control of our meetup group but he's gone now...kind of reminds me of you...
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Easy fella

I am not going into self bumping dinosaurs from the past. If that were the case this page would never be updated with current events. Yours is one in the sea of fraud posts that wake from the grave and meander their way to the top of the active forum topics. What I am proposing is a new thread. A refreshed thread. People will click on this thing. See the date, and dismiss the post for a BOT bump.

I would be in your best interest.

its nice we have people that know what is in our best interest.

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i am who i am, and im here right beside you.

Then I will no longer post on this thread ...

for the record ...

I have not been self bumping this ...

Also for the record ...

I reserve the right to respond here to the 4 people that have recently bumped it.

I will not reply to any new bumpers.

WAHOR!!
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NO

No no not that. You can do what you want.

A mere suggestion not a demand. Do what you want. I was observing the date and bot conflicts. More would read this WAHOR post if the date was updated. More would inquire about this and you would have a new batch of people to discuss WAHOR with.

The old date seems to work well with Sentinal ...

And he even gets away with self bumps.

WAHOR!!
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Hey Rhino, since it seems ok now...

...this thread being used I mean, if you don't mind, and if it is not asking too much personal input, would you reply to my comment at the top of this thread.

Doesn't have to be right now. Just whenever. I do want to come back to some things there. Some things that you and Khomar talked about even.

Thanks, Rhino.

What seems to be the crux of the argument...

in my opinion is this question, can a person be unselfish and be successful in business at the same time. Are these two things mutually exclusive? or, what is the true relationship between them?

From reading many of the posts, not all of them, it seems that Komar thinks this is not possible and somehow anti Christian.

It also seems that Rhino thinks that the energy spent on getting money ( call it growing wealth, making a living, whatever you want) originates in selfishness.

Maybe there is just a different meaning that both of you are attributing to the word, Selfishness?

I think the discussion has merit and thank you both for your comments.
IF you have already gone over this point, I apologize for being redundant.
Thanks.

My point regarding

My point regarding selfishness is this: if your focus is on selfishness, your actions will inevitably be corrupted. It is possible to be a successful businessman while also being unselfish because your focus is on providing a good service at a reasonable price (ie. a price that allows for the cost of business with a modest profit). If that is your goal, your company will likely do quite well.

What we see in corporate America today is that the focus is completely selfish: maximize profits. The net result is bad service, inferior products, overpaid executives, and massive off-shoring.

We need to get our eyes off ourselves and work to help those around us. That is one of the key points of Jesus' message. He came not to rule, even though that was his right. Rather, he came to serve God and those around him in his life and ultimately through his death on the cross, the ultimate act of selflessness.