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Do NOT do this at the Convention (9/11 inside job signs and shouts)

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The media will report on this and it will obscure Paul's actual message. He has explicitly stated that he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job, so there's no point in associating his name with this stuff anyway.

Paul himself asked that 9/11 truthers stop doing this kind of thing when acting in the capacity of a Paul supporter at campaign events etc, because it hurts his campaign. http://youtube.com/watch?... So I'm just helping him get the message out in time for the convention, so it doesn't turn into a disaster.

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Ron Paul...

has stated many times that 9/11 was basically due to the incompetance of our gov't. He has already called out the neocons on other issues why not 911? The air traffic controllers are on record saying that the chances of being able to direct to jets into the WTC without being intercepted was about 24 million to one. EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE!!!! Why are so many people afraid of a group that is seeking the truth????? I'd love Ron to say 911 was staged--- he's said everything else. STAGED just like the War ON Drugs and The War ON Terror. TRUTH Shall Set Us Free.

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2008

OP add these videos as a

OP add these videos as a side note...

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How to win friends

Wouldn't it be prudent to go to the convention looking and smelling like good little republicans, so we have a chance at persuading some to join us and support a true conservative. Yes there is room in the party for all kinds of conservatives, libertarians, constitutionalists, free-thinkers, independents, patriots, truthers, hippies, extremists, evangelicals, and anarchists.... but we want to reach out to mainstream republicans and give them what they want (an alternative to McCain!) and if we are perceived as conservative republican peers, just maybe they'll listen! We can attract more flies with honey than vinegar... if what you want is flies.... and what we want are VOTES from the status-quo neo-conned republicans who'll be voting at the convention!

Hoping to be there myself!
I'll be the one looking like everyone else, but casting my vote for the republican not like the rest!

It's only the truth YOU KNOW that sets you FREE....
Shalom, Missi

People need to understand...

Our MAIN goal is to get Ron Paul elected... The PEOPLE and their "nutty" behavior is the ONLY THING that the media uses to hurt Ron Paul's image...AND IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL!

PLEASE understand that your goal has more of a chance of getting your requested investigation AFTER Ron Paul has been elected. Why hurt his chances? We're not saying to stop believing in what ever truth you think...but just to STOP ASSOCIATING RON PAUL!

YOU CAN ROCK AND ROLL ABOUT ALL THE CONSPIRACIES YOU WANT AFTER THE ELECTION!!! OUR COMMON GOAL IS TO GET RON PAUL ELECTED!!

Jack

Time for 9/11 Truthers to Grow Up

Truthers will not succeed in convincing a sufficient number of Americans that 9/11 was an inside job. That just isn't going to happen. All truthers combined have an abysmally low conversion rate for all of their troubles even in the face of extraordinary scientific and investigative research.

The only sensible thing to do is to advocate for political change that includes reverting to Constitutional money. That would cause the military-industrial-Congressional-financial complex to be swept away. Eliminating fractional, fiat money would stop all but defensive wars.

There have been many false flag operations. 9/11 was just the latest one. I don't advocate shutting up on the matter, but truthers should keep their eye on the prize. It's not the truth; it's changing the system. There is a need to come to grips with the real work that needs to be done -- electing patriots.

Your very truly,

Schvenzlerman!

Thor shield

We should all be wearing Thor shield. This stuff makes tasers inoperable.

Thanks that is

The answer I was looking for!
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Freedom of Speech..

Should never be questioned on a Ron Paul forum.

But, this is only my opinion.

This post isn't about free speech.

It's about the art of war.

Everybody PLEASE!!!!!

Anybody caught discussing 9/11 truth at the convention will be sent to the nearest FEMA camp.

Return to your free speech zones immediately! A "thought doctor" will arrive shortly to administer your meds. Everything is fine... There will be a special broadcast on the Sports History channel before the city authorities turn off your power for the night. At that point, you must remain indoors until the daily work begins at 5am.

We've got nothing to lose people..

We might as well rattle some cages. And perhaps, just perhaps, some more people will come to the light side.

But, this is only my opinion.

Warning...

Do not bring "911 Truth" signs. It is better to live a Lie.

Warning...

Do not bring any signs supporting the revolution. The MSM will conclude that we may be serious.

Warning..

Do not bring "restore the constitution" signs. The MSM will label Ron Paul a domestic terrorist.

Why do you think

The GOP ordered all those damn Tazers for security. I will be wearing aluminum under my clothing...lol. Seriously though does anyone know if there is a way to block getting shocked?

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Warning...

Do not bring "return to the gold standard" signs. The MSM will tell the American people that Ron Paul does not believe in American currency.

Can I wear this T-shirt or post it on a sign?

Everything is a coincidence. Go back to sleep.

The code of 9 and the English alphabet.
A=9 B=18 C=27 and so on until Z=234
Masonic=666
Messiah=666
Lucifer=666
Cross=666
Songod=666
jewish=666
Horns=666
occult=666
parables=666
Muhammad=666
Jesus=666
English=666
London=666
DCXLVI=666(Roman-numeral-for-666)
Tony is another word that adds up to a value of 666. (Coincidence)
Tony Blair
As we know was Prime Minister and is in line to be the first President of the United Nations, located in New York and the future home of the largest obelisk (Babylonian sunworshipping pole of Baal) 1776 (37x48) feet buildt on the ground zero site of the old twin towers.
Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (born May 6, 1953)
Ant-----y-Ch--r---s--y--t
Anty Chryst
All just coincidence.

Current Pope's title.

The latin name of the Pope is
Benedictus Papal Papa XVI
------d c ---------l -------XVI
The roman numeral for 666 is DCLXVI (Coincidence)
Also by coincidence blessed the site of the future babylonian obelisk on the 20th of April 2008 the 111th (3x37) day of this year.
There is no plan, just chance...Go back to sleep.
grant

Warning - Don't bring "bring

Warning - Don't bring "bring our troops home signs" to the convention, that will discredit Dr. Paul. They will say Dr. Paul doesn't support the troops.

HELL YA BRING THEM HOME

Dr. Paul talked about this very thing with Tim Russert on Meet the Press. If you are not for the war, they say that you don't support the troops and if you didn't vote for the Patriot Act, they say you are not patriotic - this kind of neocon antogonism is exactly we are standing against at the convention so - SUPPORT OUR TROOPS - BRING THEM HOME.

No they won't

They will say 'Bring our troops home'

The conclusion you mention above is another example of media programming of the masses.

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

Evidence?

I saw him taking money from Sean Hannity outside the convention hall...I don't know dude, it was just weird that he would go out of his way to come there to spend 10 minutes to do what he did and then leave with out listening to Dr. Paul. If he was an actual 9/11 truther he would have spent a little more time there. It was clearly evident that he was interested more in making sure that the reporters saw him than being interested in listening to the speech.

I say he was planted.

What would Ron Paul do?

It doesn't matter how keenly you beg here

the neocons will plant fake 'truthers' at the convention to make Ron Paul look like a 'kook' and make his followers look like 'kooks'. The real supporters of Ron Paul, truthers or not, will NOT be advertising at the convention. They have too much respect for Ron Paul. Any demonstration you see after that fashion will have been a plant. Now all we have to do is spread word of this diabolical plan so the people are not fooled. That is the hard part...

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

I see a lot of people

I see a lot of people talking about stealth with the delegates. This is another area where the stealth approach could work. There will be no real investigation with this current government. So you are defeating the only chance we have at one by not being stealth.

Yes,

absolutely. Carrying 9/11 "inside job" sigs are absolutely "VERBOTEN", unless you want to destroy any chances dr. Paul has to get the nomination or to have influence. You will just give fuel to the fire of those that (falsely) say that RP supporters are not Republicans.
And you would also not reflect the leader's view on this, Dr. Paul:
Listen to this radio interview last year, where Dr. Paul explains his position in quite detail consicely:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

You guys are hurting him (and us with your signs at RP events, it is about just the same a prostitute show up at an even with a RP sign: do you think people will believe Dr. Paul is conservative and stands for conservative values when they see that? Dr. Paul does not want to say about what you do at your home, it is a different issue when you are in public as representatives and ambassadors of Ron Paul.

People should also be well dressed: we want to set an example and to positive surprise those that have a negative perception of Dr. Paul and/or his supporters. This will also make it so much easier to convince them....

Just Curious

L.G., are you saying 911 was not an inside job? The only reason to be silent on 911 is if you do not think it was an inside job. I have to assume that is your position, however, for those that believe otherwise there is an obvious reason to speak up.

How will this hurt is campaign at this point?

Ron Paul has stated that the Gulf of Token incident was a fraud. Can people carry signs that read "Gulf of Token - Inside Job"?

Truth should guide what people say or what signs they carry, not what the media will do. If the media can not come up with something negative to say about RP, they will probably say nothing.

You're representing all of us if you go to the convention

Truthers and non. However, one thing we can agree on is that Ron Paul is the man for the job. So, if you go to the convention go for Dr. Paul and all of us. Don't go to protest 9/11 or anything for that matter because all you will do is discredit our collective ideas.

How bout

Saint Paul signs?

L.G.,

L.G.,
I agree that the MSM can and will use 9/11 truthers to Dr. Paul's disadvantage. But what prevents other people and parties(aka plants) from doing this? Answer: Nothing.

Are you here to stir up division on dailypaul, or are you not?

**There is a lot of weird stuff going on today**

What prevents it

is that they're not prevalent, that I can tell. Show me a link of supporters of another candidate holding up 9/11 inside job signs along with the candidate's signs.

No, I'm not trying to stir up division. I'm just helping out Ron Paul with his request so that all goes smoothly for Paul if he makes it to the convention.

Trolling never stops with you does it.

And what is with that last sentence L.G. what's this "IF" he makes it to the Convention malarkey. You should have said when he speaks at the convention dumb troll.

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Since you asked

here is one of hundreds of links of 9/11 truthers and at other campaign speeches. http://youtube.com/watch?...

I understand that you're trying to help things go smooth...but is that really going to happen..c'mon

I'm a truther, but...

I can see the point in keeping our 9/11 movement quiet. That is unless they shut Ron Paul down at the convention. In that case, I say we make as much noise as possible, especially those on the outside of the convention.

Aku Soku Zan

Was sup

It's Stephen from Kentucky. I recognize your signature we met in SC
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HEYA!!

I'm glad that I now know that this handle is you... I have found one that I KNOW I can trust now. Oruval is a good guy folks. I will vouch.

Edit: Cause you guys totally trust me on blind faith, right? Right? LOL

How goes it? I'm going to meet the man in charge tomorrow. :)

Aku Soku Zan

Awesome!!!

He'll be in Louisville Saturday!!! I can't wait to get his autograph at the book signing!
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I hope that those in attendance will remain focused on

Dr. Paul and his message. I do not doubt their sincerity in holding beliefs regarding 9/11. If they allow themselves to be used by the MSM, as essentially McCain pawns used to discredit Dr. Paul, then their message will never be given a proper forum.

From a mass market media

standpoint, it is likely that a truth rally is not going to go over big with the masses, because of the brainwashing that accompanied the "official explanation".
So, if you just want to look at PR strategy only, then there's a point to be taken here.

If Dr. Paul says not to do it, then we shouldn't do it at the convention in any way that would associate him with it.

However, I would strongly support the "truth" movement to continue in its own way, on its own time, and in its own venues, to the maximum extent possible.
I predict that this is a crack that will fracture the ranks of the RP movement after the convention.

we'll likely have our hands in our laps wearing our Sunday best

...its the plants that will cause problems. You can BET that there will be fake RP supporters causing a ruckus to make us look like a bunch of conspiracy wackos and irrational boobs. Why WOULDNT there be? but definitly yeah- dont find yourself running through alleyways topless because the police are searching for anyone wearing an RP shirt. Lets let Ron Paul do the talking on this one : )

THEY WILL PLANT THE KOOKS

I agree with you 100% - they will plant these people to make us look bad. They have done it all along this campaign season. When Dr. Paul was in Chicago back in Sep 2007, this guy wearing a "9/11 was an inside job" shirt was there. About 10 minutes after the speech began, he got in front of the camera, took his shirt off and waved it, made sure everyone noticed him and left. Every media person that reported Dr. Paul's presence in Chicago the following day, reported this guy being there, who was there for 10 minutes. So, yeah they will plant these guys just like they did at the Maine Caucus earlier this month - we just have to ignore them and move forward.

What would Ron Paul do?

What evidence do you have that he was planted?

There are plenty of 9/11 conspiracy theorists who are Paul supporters. What would be the need to plant them if they already exist?

Known Troll.

Ignore L.G."s blatherings.
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kindness

There are MANY genuine supporters who believe things you do not, and ones who are pushed to the edge of tolerance by the things they see going on around them, and a thousand other things that go on in people's lives that you just don't know. Try to be kind, and tolerant, and you may help assure some that rational discourse CAN save the day this time. There are people who have been trying to wake us up for 30 years (like Dr. Paul) who are now fuming angry, desperately afraid, or at the end of their rope. Help them up, don't kick them.

let me define wacko and irrational.

Wacko is thinking hollaring in someones face helps, irrational is thinking that the place to voice that agenda is at the RNC-which we are working so hard to bring some dignity to. I beleive 9/11 was an inside job- that it needs an investigation and was used as a pretext to start a war with a sovereign nation which had nothing to do with 9/11. I also beleive we need to play our hand cool until we can get someone in office who will conduct an investigation. This would not be the right place. Let RP have his day- to speak- without the message of 9/11 truth detracting from the bigger prize. Thats all Im saying : )

But they're real

They're not fake Paul supporters. There are plenty of 9/11 conspiracy theorists on this board and they don't appear to be fake supporters. They're just irrational.

Look

I told you that I am going to be there. I will be Waving Ron Paul signs. I will not be wearing any 9/11 Inside Job shirts or waving those signs.

I believe in 9/11 truth. You will not see me doing it there however. BTW L.G. are you going to in Minneapolis so I can properly introduce myself?

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Greg is absoutly right, this is extremely important

and cannot be stressed enough. If you or anyone you know is going to the national convention it is paramount that you know what you are going to be up against. It's not just McCain people. They are what's know as Collectivist and have perfected the art of deception in this and every other public forum. There are 3 main tactics that will be used against you. If you don't know what they are, how to spot them and how to counter act them, you will lose any public form of debate, period. I would say at a convention of this magnitude there will be professionals trained for just this type of situation using all three tactics and you had better be ready. Here are some links that I hope will help. I can't wait for the convention, I wish I could go.

http://collateral.blip.tv...
http://www.freedomforcein...
http://www.eagleforum.org...

A lot of good information on this site listed below. The 5 part series on the Issues page is a real eyeopener. When you see a history of events and evidence laid out in this manner and not in small snapshots of just the events themselves it's very, very scary to see what these people are capable of.
http://www.freedomforcein...
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Thanks you Ron for waking me up.

The 9/11 Truth movement will

The 9/11 Truth movement will have activists there who don't support Paul.

There will be anti-war people as well.

This is a myth that 9/11 Truth "discredits" anything.

Democrats and republicans have been "discrediting" each other for 100 years, and they still get elected.

Watch Out For the McCain People

More than likely, the McCain people will have "9/11 Truthers" carrying on to discredit the Ron Paul supporters. You have to learn to think like a criminal if you want to stay one step ahead of these gangsters.

This type of stuff is done quite often to discredit opposition. We all saw it done in Canada a few months ago as our elected public servants met behind closed doors. Three members of the Canadian Mounted Police began trying to provoke some of the protestors into committing violent acts, which would justify a police crack-down on the demonstrators.

You need to realize that when you are protesting against the Criminal Element (the politicians), they are going to resort to dirty tricks. And while I believe that most law enforcement officers are decent, patriotic people, there are elements who will do whatever their master command.

The three agents provacateur were exposed and photographed. This is how you defeat this type of operation. Cameras are everywhere today, and you need to have yours. People who try to associate with you, or yout group, and who are advocating violent or illegal activity need to be reported to law enforcement as soon as possible. They need to be photographed.

Don't allow yourself to be manipulated. Always expect the other side to play dirty. Don't let yourself be set up.

Count on it!!!

Controlled opposition is a brilliant appraoch to take away any semblance of a message from Paulites. This is their way of doing it and the media will hop on it to discredit all of us, and Ron Paul. It could get very ugly!!! I respect Truthers and I want an investigation but the GOP convention is not the forum to strut your stuff. We need to stick with the agenda.