recipes that stretch food
Posted May 15th, 2008 by alienlve
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wonder if this will be deleted as its a little off topic, just read another thread by lisa talking about cooking black eyed peas and it reminded me of some thoughts ive had for a while,,i have a very large family ,many mouths to feed.with the economy on a nose dive and food rationing in our future i often think of ways to feed many people with few ingredients ,little money with the most nutrition.one i came up with is rice and bean soup,, soak beans overnite cook several hours over low heat,,add enough water to make lots of broth add rice to desired consistency,i would also throw in some vegetable or chicken boulion and any fresh vegetables i had at the end of cooking(the less you cook vegetables, the more nutrients they hold) you could feed A LOT of people with a one pound bag of beans and a two pound bag of rice.
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Sorry in advance for the vulgarity and name calling
I haven't logged in here in a few months.....had to just to comment on this douchebag.
L.G. -- you are just the kind of fuckhead i hope to run into when you're hungry and im fat on beans and rice with bouillon flavored water.
i would break your knee caps and then force feed you my leftovers.
If you're that broke...
Cancel the internet connection and save some money each month. Don't bother us with this crap. This forum is about Ron Paul. This is not a poverty forum.
I wouldn't piss on you
were you on fire, you damn troll. You think things are peachy. Good.
I hope you get hit the hardest you pompus ass.
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i dont pay for internet. i steal it from idiots like you have unsecured wireless.
I can has your internets for free. I am in your intertubes.
Um
You try to apprear to have a modicum of intelligence on your lower threads. So why do you think some of us have to pay for an internet connection?
Think harder.. ;)
Hi L.G. sorry to disagree, but I find this helpful
Wait, actually, I am *not* sorry to disagree......who are you to say that? The DP Police?
Betsy
lol, shaking my head and laughing
i just KNEW one of them would show up sooner or later,,,actually LG we all eat well right now, i actually started this link in anticipation of harder times, you would have picked up on that had you taken a moment to read the whole thread.i was thinking more along the lines of depression survival and how to get the mostest for the leastest, you might humble yourself a little to learn something on these sort of threads, i have definitely gotten some really good advice , or you can eat your smugness in the fema line
Ah
Well in that case, I'm happy to notify you that due to the Fed lowering the interest rate to preempt business contraction, the next Great Depression has been prevented for at least another 20 years.
And we have
And we have OneVoiceofTreason back on the Daily Paul!
Old trolls never die, they just keep coming back .... and coming back ..... and coming back ...... and coming back ........
Oh, and by the way LG, now is a GREAT time to be buying gold and silver, in anticipation of the collapse of the dollar!
Wow, you have an awfully small understanding
of the situation then.
Good luck to you and your derivatives.
I understand economics.
There is no imminent depression on the horizon, thanks to the Fed increasing the money supply. There is a a tradoff, though, which is increased inflation. But, that's preferable to a depression. Eventually a recession will be induced in order to scale back the inflation if it's too excessive.
The mistake that the Fed made back in the 1920's which brought on the Great Depression is that they didn't increase the money supply. See Milton Friedman's writings for an explanation. Bernanke astutely knew not to repeat the same mistake.
The purpose of derivatives is to hedge risk. Derivatives are exactly what prevents economic calamities. Most of those who lose money trading in derivatives are speculators. Risk is diversified and spread out, thanks to derivatives.
"Thanks to derivatives"
You just proved my point.
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Lisa C.
http://www.women4ronpaul....
Inflation "is preferable" to you L.G. or to my mother on a fixed
Income? Or to you or me for that matter when we find ourselves unable to work and reliant on a "fixed income" because all of the money we earned throughout our lifetime was taken away from us by the Feds to support this unsustainable system?
Do you really think you'll see the several hundred thousand's of dollars (if not waay more) that you paid in? Now you are just starting to piss me off.
Get the hell off this site
you don't belong here
Betsy
You prefer a depression
to controlled inflation?
You're out of your mind.
Hi L.G.- How do you know that the "Inflation will be controlled"
?? And, to who's benefit and detriment? You are not convincing me..( or my fixed income, worked all her life, "American dream", "golden years" mother) you need to try harder. When my dad died she got a 200.00 "death benefit." She lost his 1600.00 a month social "security" income for the rest of *her* life though. Even though they both paid in *all their lives* (as will we) and he died at 66 years old. Yeah, that seems fair......you seriously need a dose of reality dude and you will get it, I'm sure...pride always comes before the fall....
Betsy
honey
surely you realize when you constantly print more money , it dillutes the value of the already falling dollar, my take on cause of the great depression are different, i think it was initiated with the formation of the federal reserve in 1913. bernanke is a fool and a paid shill, there to take the blame for the time being,,,cripes , how can you support RP and NOT know these things????????
First of all,
I'm not your honey. So, don't patronize me.
The dollar has been slowly diluted for the last hundred years. That doesn't cause depressions. Read all the free market economists who have analyzed the Great Depression. It was brought on by an international tarrif war, the Federal Reserve contracting the money supply, and the New Deal.
Bernanke is simply a guy doing his job. He has to use the only tools given to him. We don't have a free market money system. We have a central banking system. SOMEONE has to take the job. It might as well be someone who knows what he's doing.
I guess you would prefer that interest rates stayed high, the stock market crashed, and the economy went to hell, right?
L.G.
get away from that fox idiot box and do some real research before you come up with the crap you just wrote.
You said you did high school so I gather you have to have at least enough skills to understand economics a little better.
Bernanke just doing his job?? lol... ask Dr Ron Paul about that..
You have fallen hook line and sinker for all the MSM crap about recession not on the horizon.. you must be more gullible than you would ever want to openly admit. Do they pay you well for trying to cause discord here?
However, you are in the wrong camp here and solely stirring.. you have had your brothers and sisters here before who could only hang in here for so long because their own stupidity must have become too much for them. I am sure that is going to happen to you too.
Oh, on your way out, say hi to Noelle, betterhalf, LHwhatever and all the other lost souls.
honey is a southern term ,,,honey
NO way are you a Ron Paul supporter,,,you spew the silly nonsense of someone who hasnt a clue or even the basic understanding of austrian economics,,,,poor you, good luck HONEY
Whatever
I know a high school dropout when I'm talking to one. Get your GED and go to college, take a few economics courses, then get back to me IDIOT.
well if it does really matter
i had a nursing career of two decades and then went on to recieve national certification in massage therapy, all the while working nites and raising five children, i know a little about making a dollar work.why you come to this site with so much hostility at times makes me wonder, i mean you entered this particuliar thread with a very nasty attitude directed at all of us, i think a bit of humility is in order .i mean i read a comment on yours from another thread,,i think it was about the economy and you sounded reasonable there,,so what up?i mean this thread was just for people trying to anticipate harder times and make the best of it, what is your issue with that?
A little humor here......
Calvin: I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin: Nobody thinks I'm a genius.
College is the last place you should be taking economics courses
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http://www.women4ronpaul....
College is the reason
I don't have to worry about eating rice and beans.
That's what you think L.G.
Ps I have a degree in polysci ..do you still live with your mommy and daddy? The reason I ask is because that is what *every* "college" student comes out spewing....where did you go? "State Community U"?
Freakin Dumbass
Betsy
Owning gold and silver
is the reason why I won't have to eat rice and beans.
You're not the only one here with a college degree (or two or three). An education doesn't make you wise L.G.. Your Keynesian professors have equipped you well to fail in the coming years.
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Lisa C.
http://www.women4ronpaul....
Nice comeback!
I've a degree or two as well.. the reason I won't be eating rice and beans is...
1./ Rice doesn't grow well here
2./ I've got corn, fish and cattle.
;)
It wasn't the degree that helped me.. it was common sense.
True...
you are now destined to be the looter some guy is going to shoot off the porch in a few years.
Social darwinism.. gotta love it.. ;)
By the way.. rice and beans was the antithese of another friend of ours.. betterhalf.
Welcome back.
Uh oh, Devon, you spotted
Uh oh, Devon, you spotted him!
Let's now barrage him with pro-gold and silver information, and really rile him up!
Pot, meet kettle ...
Pot, meet kettle ...
As always Alienlve....sweet response!
Betsy
LG
you yanking our chain or what dude?
aaaahahahahahahahahaha good one! I knew you couldn't be
serious, your posts are comic relief! It all makes sense now
Peace LG!
Betsy
I'm
dead serious.
Then I am truley sorry for you and yours L.G.
Betsy
Sweet reply to LG (Blah) Alienlve! Keep 'em coming!!!!
Peace,
Betsy
10 cents' worth of oatmeal a day.
I've bought a lot of large 42-oz. containers of store-brand "quick oats" ($1.50 each) for the depression ;-) I had been eating cold cereal flakes every morning but have now switched over to rolled oats and cook up about 10 cents' worth every morning, way less costly than my cold cereal. Of course there are other costs: electricity to cook, 10 cents' worth of raisins that I soak overnight, 5 cents for a dollop of honey, and the big cost, probably 30 cents for soy milk. Add in my morning mug of coffee/green tea, also containing soy milk, and I figure I'm down for a buck or so every morning.
we eat a lot alike
i dont mean to scare you but be aware that soybeans are one of the genetically modified foods along with corn, canola and cotton.you can get organic soy milk though, thats the good news
Yup
Only get the organic stuff.
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OK well this was originally supposed to reply to LG's post, but started a new one... so I guess I'll contribute. Pasta's always a staple, though fattening as hell in large quantities. If you have kids around, you can make funnel cakes (if you drain them adequately they work great and don't hold much oil) as a treat... all it takes is flour, butter, water, sugar, salt, and some oil to fry them in. Pancakes are another good one and if you thin out the batter you can make crepes to hold berries (they're starting to show up in fields near you) or whipped cream. Soup is a good idea, though making a broth out of the beans isn't the best idea I've heard. If you buy chicken *on the bone* it is not very pricey, plus a lot of times butchers will give you free "fat" from any random animal. If you render this, you will have flavoring for your soup. If you make the chicken and then boil down the bones, you'll have a much more flavorful broth.
Potatoes make french fries (these can be baked), baked potatoes, hashed browns, mashed potatoes, etc. and the potatoes here are like $4 for a 5 pound bag.
Corn will be around, and plentiful, soon. It's great grilled, baked, creamed, or even boiled (toss it in with that soup). Corn, sour cream, salsa, and rice make a hideous yet delicious combination :P
As for spices... they're great but if you're out of them and you don't have money to buy more, then you're stuck. They're expensive, LG, and this is about stretching your food dollar, not about making a "restaurant quality" meal.
I'm not so sure I'm going to be too worried about pasta
making me fat during the depression.
Americans tend to eat portions of pasta that are too large, add sauces that contain high fructose corn syrup, and overcook their pasta leading to an immediate blood-sugar spike.
Pasta is meant to be cooked "al dente" (slightly chewy). You fill fuller faster and it takes longer to digest.
Pasta
My point about fattening is more about "empty carbs". In other words, you can get some "bang for your buck" out of other materials. Having said that, a box of pasta is $0.88 here, and that's a couple of days' worth of food right there. I always cook al dente, and the salt from the water is usually enough flavor (though a little butter is also nice from time to time).
I don't sauce my pasta, and haven't in a long time. Sometimes I'll chop up some veggies if they're around, things like zucchini or tomato all cubed up make their own sort of "sauce" I suppose, but never store-bought jar sauce. I saw a jar the other day for $10! People are just ridiculous. :(
Many adults are infantile in their emotional needs.
People want things and it doesn't matter how much they cost -- like children with no sense of rationality or reason.
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Lisa C.
http://www.women4ronpaul....
Yuck
Don't ever try opening a restaurant. That's not even adequate for home cooking, unless you're white trash or something. Learn about spices and herbs.
Herbs and spices?
Ok, Colonel Sanders, what point of this post do you not get?
Ground beef can be stretched by adding...
mashed beans or oatmeal if you're using it for burgers, meatballs, stuffed veggies etc.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi
You can stretch ground beef
with rice also
for hamburgers
stuffed peppers
meat loaf
meatballs
(can add some bacon grease to meatballs if you don't have sausage to mix with them. I like my meatballs made with 3/4 hamburger and 1/4 sausage)
Yeah... The recipe we traditionally use for stuffed cabbage...
uses lots of rice and tomato. Yum. I've also heard of recipes that use mashed beans in cookies and breads. One of my friends swears by an oatmeal cookie recipe he uses that calls for beans. I think the beans possibly replace some or all of the butter but I 'm not sure. I'll have to ask him for it and see if I agree with him... :-)
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi
Make your own mixes
Hi,
We're stretching too.
The following site has tons of timesaving "mix" recipes (using basics like salt, sugar, powdered milk, cornstarch, flour, dried onion, dried garlic, pasta) - including homemade "burger helper" - that you make yourself. I have made the burger helper recipe and can vouch that it's very good and equally "fast" to prepare. Be sure to check out the rest of the site, as it contains all kinds of info.
http://www.justpeace.org/...
I also use a dehydrator extensively to preserve everything.
For example, this past weekend, the produce market had bags of spinach on sale for 79 cents. I dehydrated 4 bags (which filled 6 single quart canning jars) that I then sealed with a vacuum jar sealer.
To use the spinach, I soak it in cold water (1/2 cup spinach to 1 cup water) for about 20 minutes - then place on the stove and boil. It's way better tasting than canned, and still contains 80% of the nutrients. Dehydrating preserves about the same nutrient content as fresh-freezing, whereas canning destroys 80% of the nutrients due to the high temperatures involved.
As a result of dehydrating, none of my veggies rot in the fridge. I also use my dehydrator to thaw meat, and to raise bread.
Another money saver is to use whole grains directly, for example, I boil hard wheat or whole oats and place in a thermos over night (google "thermos cooking"). It makes a good hot breakfast cereal with raisins and brown sugar (and dehydrated apple chips).
-LF
You're just the person I've been looking for....
I was given a food dehydrator for Mother's Day....So far...eggplant, tomatoes, lemons, strawberries, beef jerky, bananas....I just can't seem to get the onions right...is there a trick to this? Maybe it's the way I'm slicing them...
But can you do seafood?
I wanted to try shrimp...Good idea?
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