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Emergency! We are being kicked out of the GA convention!

I am in the credentials line right now. They are refusing to honor their fee waivers. Word is going around that security may have been called. There are about 30 of us, how can we get these waivers approved and what should we do if removed from the convention?
-adelegate
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Being a Delegate is Expensive

Here in Texas, our convention is coming up June 12 -14 (that's right, a 3 day convention), but the committees start meeting on June 9th. If you want to testify in front of the Platform Committee for your favorite resolution, for example, you'd have to arrive a couple of days early. There is a registration fee for all delegates and alternates (called a facilities use fee) of $35. Guests must be accompanied by a delegate to register & their cost is $25. They offer grassroots training one day for $10 and a prayer breakfast one morning for $15 (I think) and also a barbecue buffet one day (I forget the price for that one). There's a GOP banquet with Mitt Romney as the speaker; that's $75 per person. (We're catching an Astros game next door instead!) The discounted hotel rooms are $189 per night + tax. If you serve on a committee or want to testify in front of a committee and stay for the entire convention and participate in all related activities, a delegate / alternate to the state convention would end up paying at least $1,100!

One free event that I definitely won't miss is the Ron Paul Freedom Rally! Since this is his home state, he always hosts an old fashioned ice cream social. This year, though, it's a 2-hour rally in the ballroom of the Hilton next to the convention center.

Also, In order to be a national delegate, they require you to give them a credit card number when the state convention adjourns if you were elected! They tell you to be prepared to pay $2000 - $3000 for all of your national delegate expenses, and they want a credit card as 'proof' you can meet your 'financial obligations' as a delegate. You can only make hotel reservations and pay your deposit through the Texas GOP (to get the discount), AND you can only do it at the delegate meeting that will immediately follow the convention.

Poll tax? Sounds like it favors the wealthy to me....isn't that why such things are unconstitutional?

Here's some video

Here's some video of the GA convention fiasco:

http://video.google.com/v...

Rules ignored, laws broken. Welcome to my modern Republican party.

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Bill Greene, founder
Delegates for Ron Paul
http://www.DelegatesForRo...

patriot

RP_4_VP says:
So I stepped in, and our Delegate Committee paid all of their fees, and we got EVERY ONE OF THEM in to the convention.

Well done, patriots!

Ron Paul supporters in every state: if you can't attend due to transportation or cost, please put out a call for help. Patriots help each other succeed!

we are thinking of you guys....

and thinking very, very hard.

persevere!!

File those criminal complaints

with the state's Attorney General's office. But, above all, refuse to leave.
Get arrested if necessary, then sue for false arrest.

GA Convention Attendees

Any updates?

IT'S DOABLE

update

I hope you got the names

of those who tried to keep you out and anyne else who interfered. This should all be exposed after the fact.

Convention is a Joke!

Let's get out of here - Columbus is a waste of time. I am leaving now.

Did I mention...

Did I mention you can contribute to help us cover the fees we paid for?

https://secure.responseen...

:-)

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Bill Greene, founder
Delegates for Ron Paul
http://www.DelegatesForRo...

we can help. but I would take the party chairman to small claims

We can help but I would have every person that paid take the party chairman to small claims court on the fee. That will be a nightmare for whoever that is and I would let them know it before the convention is over and your fees may be returned today :)

Yes

Why is it they continue to break the law and we don't do anything about it?

We covered their fee

There was 15 minutes before they cut off registration, and we had around 15 people who could NOT afford to pay the fee, but had traveled all the way here to take part in the convention.

The credentials committee denied EVERY SINGLE FEE WAIVER FORM. They knew in advance that a bunch of our people were coming and would be using them.

This was a violation of Georgia Law. But they knew it wouldn't matter, as long as they kept them out of the convention NOW.

So I stepped in, and our Delegate Committee paid all of their fees, and we got EVERY ONE OF THEM in to the convention.

Turnout here is light, so if we can keep the nominations from being closed and restricted to the Old Guard slate, we might have a chance. I'm not sure what our totals are, but these guys are really really scared of us.

:-)

By the way, if you'd like to contribute to help us cover the costs of paying these delegates' way (we are an FEC-approved Delegate Committee, like a PAC), you can do so here:

https://secure.responseen...

Thanks!

(Also, we will be contesting these fees after the convention!)

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Bill Greene, founder
Delegates for Ron Paul
http://www.DelegatesForRo...

Patriot

Good man.

Thank you for the tidings of hope

Keep up the fight!

Well, here it is! Good

Well, here it is! Good luck!
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http://www.gop.com/images...

No delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention shall be
required to pay an assessment or fee in excess of that provided by the law of the state in
which his or her election occurs as a condition of serving as a delegate or alternate delegate
to the national convention.

Wait a sec

"in excess of that provided by the law of the state in which his or her election occurs"

So, to help adelegate, we need to find out what the GA State law provides (allows) for. Anyone have the GA State laws handy?

And it sounds like (but I'm not sure!) the STATE laws, as opposed to the GOP by-laws for Georgia.

Somebody check here!

http://www.lexis-nexis.co...

That's the Official Code of GA for elections -- fees are mentioned 10 times -- I can't follow it up right now, as I have to run out the door soon. Can someone check here for adelegate??

Call for the 2008 National Republican Election

http://www.gop.com/images...

(9) No delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention shall be required to pay an assessment or fee in excess of that provided by the law of the state in which his or her election occurs as a condition of serving as a delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention.

as far as I could find. GA state law does not allow fees

as far as I could find GA law does not allow fees of any kind for any type of election state party or otherwise

If all else fails

Pay the fee, take names, and let them know that you will be *outing them* and going public with their actions and will also be exploring legal remedies against them and the party leaders responsible for enforcing this fee collection or "Poll Tax".

could do that and then recoup your fee in small claims court

could do that and pay now and then take the state part chairman to small claims court. he or she will love that and pay now and recoup the fee because it is in black and white there shall be no fees to be a delegate

pay the fee

Pay the fee, get inside, get yourself to National.

FYI - I understand a "badge fee" that is used to pay for the facility is allowed in many states.

here you go here is the rule

read the GA GOP rules and they say to follow the national GOP rules so

From the national GOP Call to convention

page 9 rule 9

No fee shall be charged to become a delegate or alternate to the national convention.

If they ask you tell them you are running for alternate position or take all 30 of you and form a slate quickly on paper and turn it in and show them you are on a slate. They must follow national rules and allow those running for delegate positions to be fee free

this is from the rnc national website then just click on the convention link. then click on the call to convention button

ps. i am on an iPhone right now and cannot copy and paste the

I am on an iPhone right now and cannot copy and paste the link for you maybe someone from the dailypaul can go to the rnc national site click on convention. then click on the call to convention button. then go to rule 9 page 9

This

This is the new america. we must march 07/12/08...

go to the Republican National Website

Go to the Republican national website and print out the rule or show them the rule on your laptop or phone that there is to be no fees

You have

documentation, fee waivers, and should be on the delegates list.

Demand to see a top official and have your name checked on the delegates lists.
If you are not there, or are refused, then it's time to realize that you've been "had" and a strategy to deal with that should be determined.

This is not surprising at all, and we should all expect to see more and more of stuff like this. We must work around it if we can, and shine the light of day on them too.

bump

Dr. William "Doc" Holladay
Nashville, TN

Don't give them a reason to

Don't give them a reason to kick you out no mattter what you do.

Yes, stay as calm as you can...difficult as that may be.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi

Call the local Radio and news

Immediately get it out there, and talk about having to pay money to be able to fulfill your duty to vote as an ELECTED delegate/alternate..

There are NO fees

The only costs are to attend other events not to be a delegate or to attend the convention!!!

Do they charge the guests to come and witness? That is a bunch of crap!

Surprised? This sort of

Surprised?

This sort of thing will happen a lot between now and September.

Our movement belongs in a Third Party. I respect Dr. Paul running as a Republican--he's doing great in that regard--but the movement belongs in a Third Party, and those of you who think otherwise will soon have your Pollyannaism reality-checked by GOP thugs.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Kevin Tuma is a non-R3volutionary Troll

Check out this guys track record on Daily Paul. He's a troll. Don't bother responding because he's so far off the reservation that it makes no difference. Just let him go.

So what does your advice consist of then, Tuma?

Go to some other party's convention? That is not the battle being fought. We need to encourage these people that they are doing the people's work. Call the TV stations and newspapers, guys, and call the radio stations, too. Call all the local media outlets and embarrass these people! I bet public embarrassment will inspire them to let you in

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

3rd party is a joke today

I agree. It's the system that's the problem and he's playing within the confines of very limited rules. We have to play the game too in order to get anything done. Maybe someday we'll actually have hundreds of parties but right now there are 2 and they control everything.

Ron Paul will not run 3rd party because there is no chance of winning in our current system with a 3rd party ticket.

The Republican Party is no

The Republican Party is no more willing to embrace constitutionalism than the Democratic Party. This will not change.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

It will change when we

It will change when we outnumber them 3 to 1. The only thing it CAN do is change at that point.

My advice, if you're

My advice, if you're interested, is stay the course for now, but don't pin your hopes on the Republican Party. Prepare to transplant the "revolution" to a Third Party this fall.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

fee waivers?

fee waivers?

petitions if you are

petitions if you are unwilling/unable to pay the fee. If they force you to pay it amounts to a poll tax.

poll tax - ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH

I Have Seen The Constitution