Vaccinated Monkeys Get Autism
Posted May 19th, 2008 by trophyfish
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The first research project to examine effects of the total vaccine load received by children in the 1990s has found autism-like signs and symptoms in infant monkeys vaccinated the same way. The study's principal investigator, Laura Hewitson from the University of Pittsburgh, reports developmental delays, behavior problems and brain changes in macaque monkeys that mimic "certain neurological abnormalities of autism."
The findings are being reported Friday and Saturday at a major international autism conference in London.
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Does everyone remember the Maryland case?
Remember what the judge presiding over the Maryland forced-vaccination case said?
As the kids were being dragged to get vaccinated so they could get back in school, the judge said:
“It’s cute. It’s like their parents dragging them to church.”
VACCINATION IS A RELIGION !!!!!!!
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
More info on vaccine and autism link
http://www.nationalautism...
Thanks for the link. Scott Bono's statement is right on
the money. One would think though that public health officials would do the right thing and ban all mercury compounds from all vaccines. And why not reasses and/or modify the "standard" vaccine schedule? The risk of doing so must be far less than the status quo.
It's nuts. Pharma must have known of the dangers
How hard is it to gather this info and conduct this research? How long have they kept independent studies buried? Why did the Pharma and medical community try to destroy Dr. Tennpenny and others for investigating the dangers of vaccines? How do we know what to believe? Isn't it an intelligent choice to simply stop vaccinating children until we get some honest answers??? Why is this a crazy idea? What if vaccines really are corrupting their nervous systems and creating a host of problems, not just autism? This theory seems closer to the truth. It's supported by the highly suspicious actions of the Pharma Industry and others.
Dr. Carley's Thursday Show Comes On This Evening
If anyone would like to listen to Dr. Carley's Thurs night show, here's the info:
http://www.bbsradio.com/b...
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Dr. Carley's Archived Show From Today
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(remember - you can FF the slider past comercials)
WEDNESDAY, MAY 21, 2008
MP3 Files:
Hour 1
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Dr. Carley's entire archive for 2008:
WHAT'S AILING AMERICA
Archived Months in 2008
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
One day I was in a Safeway store
and they were giving flu shots.
There were several people standing around.I went up to the woman giving the shots and asked her if there was mercury
in them and she said,why yes,do you want one?I said no and said"isn't mercury harmful to people.She got mad and said,
well,that hasn't been proven!I left
and I hope the people standing around left too!
Do any of you have CPS stories.......
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....although it's not against the law NOT to vaccinate your children?
I'm so sick of this witch-hunt against those of us who don't agree with the allopathic means of "treating" disease.
Speaking of 'allopathic', this short cartoon is must-viewing:
"Town of Allopath":
http://www.mercola.com/to...
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I'll say it again, It will be an act of WAR if they try to force
parents to vaccinate. Period. Pharma, CDC, Medical Industry, etc have been caught red handed in vaccine lies. There is a price to pay when you decieve the public. You lose their trust. To ignore this and attack the parents who have every right to refuse your "product" is disgusting. The cartoon you posted is dead on. Many Americans are simply following a "story" a "fiction" about vaccines that was NEVER true. Even in the face of mounting evidence of the dangers of vaccines, the very real injuried kids, the medical professionals blowing the whistle, many people simply refuse to change the story they are comfortable with, a story many individuals became rich from. I will not allow stupidity and ignorance to hurt my child. It's time to wake up and let the allopathic story refine itself and become less of a fiction. If it does not, allopathic medicine will lose all credibility and it will die. Going down in history as one of the most corrupt and deadly industries humanity has ever spawned.
Yes, and here's how insane this situation has become.....
Even George Orwell couldn't have conceived of just how much his books have become true. The following news article is a perfect example:
RE: Lawyer: No Scientific Debate on Link Between Vaccines Autism
From article:
DOES ANYBODY SMELL A RAT?!?!?!
I thought scientific conclusions were ALWAYS up for debate. (remember blood-letting and leeches?)
Oh yes, we're talking about the "science" and "scientists" which/who represent the pharm industry.
It doesn't matter what's happening in the real world.
It ONLY matters what happens in the laboratories and board rooms of the various pharm industries - and of course protected by our sweet government.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Very good point!
Very good point! Yes, the point at which "debate is over" is almost always the point at which dogma begins. I have learned repeatedly over the years that the world of scientists can be just as intolerant, close-minded and rigidly dogmatic as the world at large, ostensible scientific "free inquiry" notwithstanding. I even wrote a paper for a college chemistry course on the subject, which interestingly was NOT well received by the professor!
Vaccination is a religion......
....and a CULT, at that.
Pure and simple.
Most people who believe in them, unfortunately, are well-meaning people. They've just been conditioned to believe this lie that's been told repeatedly throughout their lives. They've been taken-in by a literal CULT, just like Jim Jones fooled all of those good people in Guyana back in the 70s.
For most people, when you tell them vaccination is a bad thing, their first thought is, "hey, this guy just told me the sky is yellow".
It just does NOT compute.
And that's fine.
BUT, I really get upset when you present them with indisputable facts AND THEY GET MAD AT YOU INSTEAD OF THE PHARM CROOKS !!!
WHY?
What could the people who are against vaccination POSSIBLY have to gain, other than the truth?
On the other hand, what does the pharm-industry have to lose if this mountain-of-lies is toppled?
QUITE A BIT !!!!......and they'll lie their @$$e$ off to keep their gravy-train going. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.......PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIE !!!!
If people would just weigh the motives on BOTH side of the issue, that would be the first step in breaking down their initial mental-block of accepting that they've been lied-to.
And it is also my contention that there is NO middle ground in this issue.
Vaccines are bad - PERIOD !!!
God didn't Design our immune systems to be bypassed with all of the poisons/toxins/eye-of-newt, etc. being direct-injected into our bloodstreams.
It's a complete breakdown of the natural order of things......PERIOD !!!!
I could go on this rant for the next 80 days, but I'll stop for a moment and go hug my unvaccinated babies......................who NEVER get sick, by the way.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
No, it is not ----but your
No, it is not ----but your knee-jerk, ignorant, know-nothing, completely unscientific faith in the opposite does constitute a religion of sorts.
Vaccinations should NEVER be mandatory, and HAVE caused deaths and negative repercussions, but to say that they are all a lie and have had no positive effects is ludicrous. And denying that germs (bacteria and viruses) cause or can cause disease only discredits you completely.
akak, that is not what the poster said.
This is sooo pathetic. Vaccines have been proven dangerous with real science. Many reports done by real experts. Many MD's have jumped on board to warn of the dangers. The funny part is, androids like you will admit "some" vaccines will kill you, destroy your immune system, etc. I'll assume you believe some of this was covered up. Now, you have CHOSEN to believe some of what is being told you by the same people who lied to you, for years. How very, very sad. The truth is, no one knows which vaccines are "good" and which are "bad" because they have lied to us. SO an intelligent parent would step back and say, "my child will not be vaccinated". Who in their right mind would simply smile and wag their finger at the Pharma Industry and say "shame on you for lying about those darn vaccines for years, I guess I'll trust you now, which shots should I inject into my child".. That my friend, is INSANE.
I never claimed that "some
I never claimed that "some vaccines are good, some are bad" --- what I said (or tried to say) was that ALL vaccines have risks, and in a given population, some people WILL suffer negatively as a result. Those facts are incontrovertible. However, the same thing can be said of surgeries, ANY surgeries. My own father died as a result of complications from a routine surgery, but should I therefore claim that all surgery is EVIL and should never be performed as a result? Again, what I see you and Ruth proposing is a "Throw the baby out with the bathwater" kind of argument --- correct me if I am wrong.
akak, did they lie to you about the dangers?
Did they tell your father the truth? Are they held responsible for their actions if they screw up? The vaccine issue is very different. They knew long ago vaccines were dangerous and they did not share that information. As a matter of fact, they tried to destroy any experts who revealed it. The history of vaccines is a sick and corrupt one. They are still trying to force parents to vaccinate. It's disgusting and only a fool would trust the makers of vaccines. The same community that lied to the American public about the dangers of vaccines for years.
Our government has given Pharma companies protection from
Vaccine lawsuits. Why? I thought they have proven there is no connection, yet the Pharma companies bought protection (millions of lobbying dollars). Does this make sense to anyone? How about there are very real dangers associated with vaccines? Millions if not billions of children around the world have been injured. Their nervous systems corrupted by a cocktail of toxins. Pharma knows this, many in the medical industry know this, and many in the government know this. However, if they admit it, someone will be held responsible. Especially since they have known of the dangers for years. Their real fear is the public will lose their trust and confidence in the Pharma and Medical Industry. The public will wash their hands of these deceitful Industries and continue moving toward holistic care. A form of care that emphasizes the individual’s ability to heal themselves. Not a whole lot of money to be made if humanity figures out how to heal themselves from most dis-ease. Pharma and the Medical Industry will lose their customers. It's that simple. The herd immunity argument they prop up is a joke. They are simply trying to plug the holes in the dam of lies they created. They will fail, but not until they try to squeeze every dollar they can from our children. This greed is fueled by a cadre of guilt ridden “experts” who don’t have the courage to admit they were wrong. Sacrificing children in an attempt to create “herd immunity”. A flawed concept that made doctors and pharma lots of money.
its more
than just the money,,,its about the eugenics
If you're correct, they really screwed up
They certainly did not improve anything.
Regarding the eugenics angle........
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.............I suggest watching the following movie (for free) on google video:
"ENDGAME - Blueprint for Global Enslavement"
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I am a physician
and I recently read a study that concluded taking the flu vaccine over a number of years increases your risk of developing Alzheimers disease. Now if you are among the class referred to as the frail elderly (over 85), should you take the flu vaccine? Probably, because getting the flu can be fatal pretty quickly for you but we shouldn't be telling healthy, younger seniors to get it every year without warning of possible long term detrimental effects which I guarantee you most doctors are not even informed of themselves. It should be a matter of informed consent.
As an aside, Vitamin D3 is a very good protectorant against the flu but since we are all preached at to use sunblockers (although melanoma which is the skin cancer most likely to kill you, is not caused by sun exposure) and our bodies need the sun to manufacture vitamin D...
heres some food for thought
i am a retired nurse of almost two decades, fourteen years of which were spent as a medications nurse in nursing home setting. i can tell you my observations of the flu vaccinations on the elderly and disabled. first of all within ten days of giving the shots to a typical hall of forty patients, it was NOT unusual to have two to three deaths following illnesses with flulike symptoms, second the residents who had the shots,,,almost ALWAYS came down with the flu during the flu season regardless !!!!!! in my opinion there was NO significant benefit from the vaccines AND it was yet another exposure to mercury. in my opinion, flu shots are more harmful than beneficial.also my sister saw to it my mom had flu shots for eight years in a row before we became aware of the dangers and my mom has severe alzheimers.
tetanus?
Is a tetanus shot dangerous?
Yes
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Perhaps the following will make you re-think ever getting that vaccination:
Tetanus Index: http://www.vaclib.org/lin...
SUMMARY:
Tetanus incidence and mortality declined greatly before the widespread use of tetanus vaccine. (In excess of 99%)
The bacteria associated with tetanus is present virtually everywhere. However, when the human body does not present the bacteria a proper environment for growth, this constitutes a natural immunity to the tetanus bacteria.
The only preventives for tetanus are general good health and wound hygiene.
There is NO immunity to dirty wounds. Wound hygiene is essential.
Tetanus incidence in the vaccinated is about the same or higher than incidence in the unvaccinated.
Tetanus vaccine is not only ineffective but also toxic. It's use causes numerous adverse side effects.
Keep in mind that the tetanus vaccine became available for widespread civilian use in the late 1940's. Thus tetanus mortality had declined from 205 deaths per 100,000 wounds in the American Civil War (1860) to about .4 deaths per 100,000 population in 1947 at the beginning of widespread civilian use of the vaccine. This means that sanitation, nutrition, year around nutritional improvements, general hygiene, and wound hygiene had reduced the mortality and incidence of tetanus by as much as 99.8 percent before the widespread use of tetanus vaccine. Improvements in the above factors would continue to play a major role [if not the sole role] in further reduction of tetanus.
Could tetanus vaccine have played any role what so ever in the last fraction of a percent in tetanus reduction?
NO! In a sanitary society with adequate nutrition, natural immunity to the bacteria gives almost everybody immunity against the bacteria's ability to grow in a healthy body.
It is a far different matter where the conditions prevail which encourage the tetanus bacteria's growth. Nobody can be immune to dirty wounds. Immunity to dirty wounds can not come from vaccination; immunity to dirty wounds can not come from having had tetanus one or more times and recovering.
The vaccine's "active" ingredient is the poison which is made by the bacteria. Antibodies against poison do not constitute an immunization.
Wound hygiene is essential, general good health is protective and vaccination is worthless.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Vaccinated Monkeys Can't Vote for Ron Paul
There is an Anything Goes thread somewhere in here. Why don't you guys go find that and continue on. If we get too many off topic threads -- and boy this is off topic -- we can't find the news because of all the vaccinated monkeys.
To reiterate
Ron Paul has made health freedom and opposition to federally mandated vaccinations part of his platform, so this topic is very relevant.
It's not "off-topic"....
Want me to prove it?
Here's an article by Ron Paul about the government attempting to FORCE the smallpox vaccination upon innocent Americans in the name of 'terra'.
"Government Vaccines – Bad Policy, Bad Medicine":
http://www.lewrockwell.co...
So yes, the topic of vaccinations IS on-topic concerning Ron Paul due to the attempted takeover of our health-freedoms and other freedoms.
It's all related.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Ron Paul made vaccines an issue
when he added it to his platform. Perhaps you should read it. Many of us have and that's why we are here. Again, Ron Paul mentions vaccines. So your "anything goes" comment makes no sense.
Amen on the Vitamin D issue......
Also, you should read a study from 2005 in Archives of Internal Medicine by Dr. Simonsen. The study showed no significant reduction in flu deaths even though the number of people receiving the vaccine has dramatically increased. Here's the link:
http://archinte.ama-assn....
Regardless if vaccines are good or not
They should not be forced on anybody and all information about their safety should be available. This crap about forcing vaccines has to stop. In Ohio kids can't attend school until all their shots are up to date. What a bunch of BS. If parents are informed and decide that is their business alone.
Thimerosal is still in vaccines........
It is still in the vast majority of flu shots. And now CDC recommends flu shots for ALL pregnant women and ALL children beginning at 6 months of age. Remember this is a yearly shot. Also many other childhood vaccines still contain "trace" amounts of thimerosal. This is not good because a safe level of mercury has never been determined.
This study was NOT done back in the 1990s. It was done very recently. The study replicated the vaccine schedule of the 1990s. This was the time when several of the childhood vaccines contained the full amount of thimerosal.
This study should settle the issue, but the CDC, Big Pharma, and the rest of the medical establishment will fight tooth and nail to ignore, marginalize, and discredit this study.
All these people want is safe vaccines. We need to get the toxins out and reform the vaccine schedule. We may even have to eliminate some of the vaccines such as the Hepatitis B vaccine. But something HAS to be done!
The doctors
are telling people now that Thimerosol was the culprit and it has been taken out of vaccinations. Wonder if that is true. They say the vaccinations for newborns are safe now. I wonder. This study was done in the 90s and I think the increase in autism is still happening.
Vaccines will NOT be safe, EVEN if thimerosal is removed
I urge everyone to read Dr. Carley's priceless paper on the issue of vaccines.
There will still be autism and the mountain of other disease/ailments/problems even if the mercury is removed.
"INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"
http://www.drcarley.com/i...
If you don't read her paper, at least listen to the following interview of Dr. Carley conducted by Greg Ciola:
Go to this link: http://www.healthtruthrev...
and then click on the LISTEN NOW link by the 2nd title called: "INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I am not so sure either
that the Thimerosal has been removed. I wrote an email to the flu vaccine manufacturer here in Australia asking if they could write to me about this.
They refused to write it in an email and wanted to speak to me on the phone. My friend rang and asked if thimerosal was in the flu vaccines and she was told it had been removed since 2005. When asked if she could have that in an email they refused.
To me, that is about the equivalent of: it might have been removed but prefer to treat it as: not removed. Believe what you want to believe. Unless they are willing to state on paper that it has been removed I would not take their word for it.
My advice is: stay away from vaccines!
Yes people, there is new info on the dangers of vaccines
It's OK to embrace this information and move forward. Millions if not billions have been injuried by vaccines. Many doctors did not report these reactions. This is a FACT. So, now we know. Lets stop defending big pharma and cowardly medical docs and make our children safer. The cat is out of the bag. That's a good thing. Lets not let a few greedy cowards hide the truth, AGAIN. Notice how some posters will not accept the new research and facts that clearly show the dangers of many vaccines. They will deny these reports because they chose to vaccinate their kids and now must justify their choice. They simply will not accept they may have made the wrong choice. No matter how many experts reveal the dangers of vaccines. They will encourage others to vaccinate in a sorry attempt to FEEL better about their choice. This is cowardly.
Any evidence
for "Millions if not billions have been injuried by vaccines."
if there is so much as a doubt
the slightest doubt to the safety of these vaccines or any medications what so ever, they should NOT be administered to babies and children,,,have you no common sense man?
There is a lot and as the lies keep revealing themselves
there will be more. Notice how H-daddy asks for evidence. He knows the majority of medical docs never documented the vaccine reactions/injuries. They ignored the parents and sick children. This is a FACT. I can almost see a little smile on his face. "any evidence?" Sorry fella, not reporting the reactions worked for awhile, not now, too many children hurt. The great smoke cloud is gone. Funny you ask for evidence, on a thread that has a credible report about the dangers of vaccines as it's theme. Cowardly, indeed. Thank God the vaccine scam is over.
We have had this discussion before
and I have agreed many times that there is a risk involved with vaccines - all vaccines. There are also benefits. What bothers me is when people exaggerate ie millions or billions injured. I would agree that no one knows the exact figure for the same reason we don't have exact figures on HIV, POW's still in Vietnam, on and on. It might very well be millions. If it were then there would be some data somewhere. Billions? I can't imagine it. Maybe a billion people have benefited?
I certainly don't smile when kids are hurt. What a stupid thing to say.
until you take the time
to research the governments bioweaponry and the eugenics program, you can not grasp what is really happening.so i view your posts as someone who is uneducated.
What?
Uneducated? Could you try to be a little bit more arrogant so I can get the full effect of your greatness.
H-daddy you are a fool
We have read your thoughts on vaccines before. The same ole story. You ignore new reports and evidence of the dangers. You are a vaccine cheerleader and your blind devotion represents a threat to intelligent parents who keep up to date on current vaccine dangers etc. The STORY has changed. What you may have heard and believed ten years ago is NOW different. You were lied to my friend. Grow up and research this topic before you spew your old comfortable narrative. This is not the first time we have been decieved by the Pharma and medical industry. They have a very long history of withholding the truth. They are now paying for these lies with a loss of credibility. Nothing surprising going on here. This is what happens when people no longer trust you.
I have no desire to
argue with you about what you choose to believe. Nor should you belittle my reasoning or opinions. My problem with you from day one is your insistence on presenting your OPINIONS as FACT. You exaggerate every claim that you feel backs your opinion and dismiss all others out of hand. If you want people to make good decisions then give them the facts and let them form their own opinions.
Case in point would be whether or not to vote for Dr. Paul. Should we be honest about his record, his principles, his life story? Or, should we exaggerate and make false claims? The libertarian belief is that people will make decsions for themselves. That's liberty.
You can call me a fool. It doesn't bother me. But it tells me something about your intellectual insecurities. You can't argue your case effectively so you resort, once again, to name calling. If you don't like my posts then just ignore them.
I made nothing up
It is YOU, H-daddy, who believes in a fiction. This is something you should address. Vaccines are dangerous and we have been lied to for years about their safety and effectiveness. This is a FACT. The story is changing and our kids will be safer. It is your right to live in a fantasy world. Have fun.
It is cause for celebration that the majority of the posters on this thread have seen through the vaccine myth. We have won, H-daddy. It is now you who is delusional.
You, DaveMac,
have won nothing. Dream on.
What bothers you, H-daddy, is "your" choice to vaccinate
Live with it and let the rest of us move forward and protect our children and future generations. No one knows the true benefits of vaccines. No one. Your silly story about polio, etc is a fiction. It has been reduced to nonsense in this thread and several others. The fact is, vaccines may have very, very little benefit. That is what the new honest reports suggest. Vaccines may also be very, very dangerous. Parents are demanding the reactions suffered by their children are recorded. There are heroes out there who have created organizations immuned from the medical industry or big pharma. The truth has been set free. Vaccines are and have always been dangerous. Now we are starting to see just how bad they are.
Davemac, you are spouting
Davemac, you are spouting nonsense. So I suppose that the fact that smallpox, after thousands of years of being a scourge of mankind, has been eradicated from the globe after years of an intensive inoculation effort, was just a coincidence? I am not saying that anyone should be FORCED to receive vaccinations (and if I had kids I would be VERY cautious with any inoculations, as I once became seriously ill as an ADULT from receiving mutiple vaccines), but the fact that vaccines have significantly reduced a number of contagious diseases worldwide is incontrovertable. If thimerosal is a problem, then attack that, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!
Britain
in 1902 completely abandoned their smallpox vaccination programs because the jabs had increased smallpox infections up to ten times what they were before Edward Jenner, who was a "quack" with no medical training whatsoever, introduced his vaccine. Despite the fact the British people went completely unvaccinated, smallpox was eradicated in Britain by 1977, just like it was in America, where smallpox vaccination programs began about the same time Britain ended theirs. Smallpox died out on it's own, just like bubonic plague died out on its own without any vaccinations at all! People who believe vaccinations eradicate diseases need lessons in in accurate accounts of history.
Why do you exaggerate?
Just state your claims and facts. Even a cursory bit of research and reading reveals that the real story is quite different from what you suggest.
I'm not exaggerating
Many of Edward Jenner's comtemporaries were shocked by how easily the scientific community was taken in by this amateur. Walter Hadwen MD, had these things to say: http://www.soilandhealth....
Exactly what are your sources proving smallpox vaccine DID eradicate smallpox? Most people believe that and don't question it, because that's what they've been told all their lives, but it isn't true.