Ron Paul on Alex Jones show today!
Posted May 19th, 2008 by alienlve
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infowars.com click on listen now under Dr. Pauls picture, should be awesome show . update: i was called away on family matter today but here is link http://www.infowars.com/ . also for new listeners , alex's show runs 3-5 hrs. in length depending on how much news he wants to cover and it repeats continuosly until the next days show at noon,so you have the chance to listen to Ron Paul a few times.
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Ron Paul on Rumsfeld
"Anything is possible with these guys"
"They wait for opportunity, they help create them, they manipulate them, they do whatever is necessary, they know they need to get the consensus of the people."
When asked if they would create another Gulf of Tolkin type incident, Ron Paul responds, "I've been worried about that all along. I always take the position I always hope they not do it on there own. I hate to think they are capable of it, yet they are. But no matter whether it's an accident, or the deliberately do it or one individual does or they hire someone to do it. An event has to happen to get the people behind it and be complacent in order to send more kids off to get killed.."
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I Really Do Not Understand.....
Paul stated during interview that he does not feel he will be given an opportunity to speak at the GOP National Convention.If there is no way to get him into office in 2008 do any of you really believe deep down that this country can survive 4 more years until 2012(next election) as we know it taking into account our monetary policy/FED and foreign war policy??????
Paper Ballots,Hand Counted At The Precinct Or Bust
guys look... the economy
guys look... the economy CANNOT BE SRAIGHTENED OUT.. the financials have to collapse! they will use a false flag terroist event to disguise the fall of the US economy.. they will blame it on those dirty rotten terrorists! .. ever see Steven Segals movie under seige.. the guys in the cia were going to blame everything on the "cook" they will blame terrism or the need to defend against terrorism for the collapse and martial law. they will not take blame for the the federal reserve and a bunch of idiots in the congress and the whitehouse over a number years.. thats who's fault it is for gas at 4.50 and milk at 5.00! BAD GOVERNMENT IS TO BLAME!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I personally don't think we are surviving now!
I think we have already sunk and it is a question if we can pull ourselves back up on dry land. But half the country thinks we are fish and belong in here. So the answer is, No, I am one who does not think we can survive. So I am not willing to give up on this election until I am totally forced to do so. Jason Lewis stated on Rush Limbaugh today that McCain does NOT have the nomination no matter what they are leading us to believe.
we adapt to conditions on the ground, so to speak
Fortune Favors the Bold
I think this country can
I think this country can survive the next few years, but is looking down the barrel of very hard times.
Now is a very good time to consider self-reliance as a lifestyle choice!
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Support the Constitution of the United States
Link?
Link please.
rebroadcast - listen here
http://www.nfowars.net:44...
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when you click on the listen now
Fortune Favors the Bold
is that the live stream? Is there a way to still hear Paul's interview?
hey john
its on now, 4:45 pm eastern time and its a continuous live stream until noon tomorrow, so youll have a few chances to catch it
I just listened
Fortune Favors the Bold
good interview
Alex Jones is a great American
I may disagree with much of what is on his show, but I'll have to say, Alex Jones is a man I respect. I'll go to my death defending his right to every thing he has to say.
It's not the Rupert Murdochs or the Gordon Liddys of the world who the first amendment was written for...it was men like Alex Jones. He is not afraid to defend unpopular speech, and it's only unpopular or inflammatory speech that must be guarded.
I may argue every point with you truthers, mostly because I don't think you're right, but you wacko's (term of endearment) are the unwritten check and balance.
You are the fringe, but it is often the fringe that must set the fire of revolution. Please, though, keep it peaceful until there isn't another way.
I'll defend your right to say whatever as well...
Actually you are on the fringe according to Zogby.
Certain "wackos" used to think the earth was round,. they were ridiculed too.
A) Just explain to me how WTC 7 (across the street with a building in between it) fell at freefall speed.
B) And also why did the owner (who puchased several billion dollars on insurance with a specific terror clause) ADMIT.... on TV that he gave the orders to "pull it" (meaning to take the building down with explosives)?!!?! according to Controlled Demolition Inc.
The movement would be nothing without the passion of the ones who demand answers for the horrific crime of 9/11.
You should do some research before you touch your keyboard,you do yourself a disservice.
I've done plenty of research
A) First, we have a problem of perspective with WT7. It was the third tallest building ever to collapse...so you're drawing conclusions on an event which there is absolutely no perspective. Second, it was likely a poorly engineered building, for it was built on top of a water treatment facility with a foundation that was intended to hold a 20-25 story building max.
B) He bought a complex that was a world famous building, and a proven target for terrorists. Keep in mind, 8 years before the collapse, there was another terrorist attack with a truck bomb intended to collapse the buildings.
The truth movement is entirely a seperate issue from the rEVOLution. Yes, many of Dr. Pauls most ardent followers are truthers, but many of us are simply people sick of the size of government and sick of paying the income tax.
I want truth also, but I haven't decided the truth ahead of time. I want all the questions answered the same as you, but I haven't jumped to conclusions based on some holes in the official theory.
Both truth and revolution go hand in hand.
I respect your thoughts but the points you raised seem to be strawman arguments. If you believe in justice then you yourself are a truther. There can never be justice without truth. The label "Truther" is is just a label to many but to most of us it's a call to duty.
There is plenty evidence for indictments. In regards to Building Seven. The rate of collapse and the squibs seen on video is enough evidence to prove implosion. Owner Larry Silverstein publicly admitting that they "Pulled" the building. Guiliani said during an interview that he was warned that the building were going to collapes ny none other that Dick Cheney. We won't go into Norman Mineta's testimony before the 9/11 Commsission. These are just a few examples of Prima Facie evidence of foreknowledge and conspiracy. It doesn't take a genius to lay this out.
Motive (Patriot Act, Iraq War; Afghan War, Profiteering etc.)
Oppurtunity (Marvin Bush company (Securicom) in charge of electroninc security during power downs weeks and months before the attacks. As per Ben Fountains accounts in People Magazine)
M.O. (Operation Northwoods; Gulf of Tolkin; Downing Street Memos)
Let's call for grand jury shall we?
keep fighting the New World Order
I thoroughly enjoy it when Dr. Paul appears on the Alex Jones Show. It's a bonus that it sends the disinfo trolls into a tizzy.
"If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul, The Revolution: A Manifesto
LOL.. I agree..
They are running around with like chickens with their heads cut off. They have lost the propaganda war they've launched against us and they know it. The battle for truth is about to hit a major tipping pint and they're very nervous about it..
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Alex asked Dr. Paul about Rumsfeld tapes
He played the recording of Rumseld "We need another 9/11" tape and Dr. Paul said that he believes they (Neo-Cons) would use another attack to their advantage and although he doesn't believe they would cause one... he would not put it passed them either. He also re-iterated that they had the Patriot Act ready to go before 9/11.
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Ron Paul said... "Anything is possible with these guys"
"Anything is possible with these guys"
"They wait for opportunity, they help create them, they manipulate them, they do whatever is necessary, they know they need to get the consensus of the people."
When asked if they would create another Gulf of Tolkin type incident, Ron Paul responds, "I've been worried about that all along. I always take the position I always hope they not do it on there own. I hate to think they are capable of it, yet they are. But no matter whether it's an accident, or the deliberately do it or one individual does or they hire someone to do it. An event has to happen to get the people behind it and be complacent in order to send more kids off to get killed.."
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"Anything is possible with these guys"
Excellent! And, exactly! Glad to hear him say it.
Dr. Paul could have almost agreed at that moment with this train of thought that "they could have done 9\11".
I think he's been threatened, but this is just a thought. I have suspicions that Ross Perot was threatened and that was his short "dropping out of the race" reason.
Just a thought folks, just a thought.
Just a thought, yes
No evidence.
Proof
No actual proof, that is a fact!
In this other interview Dr. Paul says
"I talk about that because you know the Gulf of Tonkin was an episode that was used to get us into war. If an accident happens over there, and it's blamed - let's say Osama Bin Laden stages something and he blames it on Iran. This will be an excuse to for us to expand the war in Iran. So, I think this is very very dangerous because a lot of people, even, you know, in the Republican Party are quite willing to use a nuclear first strike on Iran. So, I think this is a very very dangerous situation that we're in. So, no I don't think President Bush is planning this. But, I think 9/11 was certainly used as a reason to go into Iraq. And, Iraq did not have weapons. They had nothing to do with 9/11. So they use events. They don't stage events, but they use it to do the things they had already planned."
I found that on http://paulitesagainsttru...
Looks like he changes his words depending on the audience. Very political of him.
Wow Billy
Not sure if they have a drug to wake you up.. it sounds like you have been indoctrinated enough and taken away your ability to think for yourself. You are a prime example of what they have planned to populate the FEMA camps with.
God save America .. because the Billies of this nation won't do it.
He's pointing out the FACT....
That criminals in this very government have and will use terrosim as a means to advance their political ideology and goals.
In the quote you wrote above he's talking about complicity of 9/11 and them using it to there advantage. He doesn't believe there sufficient evidence to claim the Bush administration was involved but that mainly because there has not been an adequate investigation of which he does supports.
In today's interview says he doesn't trust them not to fake an incident or create one such as the Gulf of Tolkin.
Billy I see you are new here... Only a few hours as a member...
Do you trust this administration and Congress?
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Well
if "He doesn't believe there sufficient evidence to claim the Bush administration was involved but that mainly because there has not been an adequate investigation of which he does supports, but that mainly because there has not been an adequate investigation of which he does supports," that's clearly a rational position. I don't think there's sufficient evidence to claim the Bush administration was involved either, so I don't claim it. Dr. Paul also explicitlysays that he doesn't think the Bush administration was intentionally complicit in 9/11:
Julie Banderas: "Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?"
Paul: "Well, the answer is no if they mean by 'inside job' that our government made it happen. No, I don't believe that." http://youtube.com/watch?...
And..
Adam Curry: "9/11 Conspiracy theories. Do you buy any of it Dr. Ron?"
Paul: "Not, not really. Not the kind that say well it was all conspired by our government and they did it for this purpose of us ushering in this War on Terrorism. No I don't believe any of that. http://ronpaulaudio.com/r...
what are the odds
of an emergency drill of planes crashing into wtc at the same time it actually happened? who was in charge of NORAD? .......does the order still stand sir? v.p. cheney..have you heard anything to the contrary?
Billy... Billy... Billy...
Do you believe there should be an investigation outside of this administrations control? You know, since millions of citizens and government officials are now questioning their role?
Do you find anything this administration has done suspicious, either before, during or after 9/11? Anything at all?
Downing Street Memos...
Habeus Corpus...
Outing a CIA agent...
Eavesdropping..
Politicizing the Justice Department....
Warrantless Searches..
Yellow Cake...
Torture...
Prison camps in the USA...
Bush Nazi ties..
Anything at... throw me a bone here buddy.. Or maybe your just catapulting the PROPAGANDA!
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Joe..Joe...Joe
Of course government should be investigated as much as possible, for everything, and all the time.
I agree with Dr. Paul though, that the U.S. government was not intentionally complicit in 9/11.
Mike Gallagher: "Is it fair to say that you believe that there was some kind of either government conpiracy or coverup involving September 11th, 2001?"
Ron Paul: "No, not really. I never bring that up. Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that. And I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that's not my position. I do think government's basically inept. I mean we were spending $40 billion a year collecting intelligence, and a lot of information was out there. We had one FBI agent, I think sent dozens and dozens of memos to his superiors saying that there are people trying to fly airplanes but not land them. And, nobody would pay any attention, so I don't think that's a conspiracy; I think that's a lot of bureaucracy that doesn't work very well. And then when we have government investigations, whether it's 9/11 or assassinations, I think the main goal is to protect the government and to protect their ineptness. And that is a lot different than saying 'Oh they conspired to do this because they can use this as an excuse to spread the war in the Middle East whether they had anything to do with 9/11 or not.' I don't see it that way, but I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity. But, it wasn't something that was deliberately done." http://ronpaulaudio.com/r...
That's my position too.
So we agree...
Your are correct Dr. Paul doesn't share the same opinions on 9/11 complicity . But he is showing you the kind of people they are. These people thrive on something like 9/11 happening in order to use it to there advantage. This is a matter of character or lack thereof. These people supposedly represent us.
You say we should question at all times. Well I have. I took the time and researched the evidence and information that is now so vast one I can only conclude a cover-up has occurred. Obstruction of justice and conspiracy after the fact are charges that can be put on officials in this administration.
Please answer the questions I posed above. is there anything about what this administration has done that bothers you?
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No shit
Of course they would use an event in order to diminish individual liberty. Governments always tend to do that, especially during wartime. That's a common way that liberties are lost. The U.S. government is no more likely than any other government to do this.
To answer your question, there's lots of things this administration has done to bother me, as have all administrations. I'm a libertarian. Pretty much anything that restricts liberty, or increases taxes and regulation, I'm against.
Then why debate about Ron Paul's position?
"The U.S. government is no more likely than any other government to do this."
Yes, and no less likely than any other government. With the information we now have access too, don't you agree?
So instead of debating ithe "Inside Job" theory and whether Dr. Paul believes it or not, why not stand together and demand a legitimate investigation that will hopeully lay all doubts aside. Let the chips fall where they may.
There is no statute of limitations so this is never going to end. We aren't going anywhere and if the trends continues... more people will be demanding the truth. Justice will be served and as citizens we should demand nothing less.
By the way. Ron Paul advocates a new investigation although he doesn't beleive it will happen with this current government.
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You're the one that brought up 9/11
not me.
Oh, Billy Dee is
not my lover
he's just a troll who wants to
live as a slave
and they say he'll be ok
go misinform, guy
go misinform
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
LOL, Lpviper!
LOL, Lpviper!
" ...... but the troll is not Ron's son."
That's contradictory
"he doesn't believe they would cause one... he would not put it passed them either." If he would not put it past them then he thinks they would cause one.
I'll listen for myself and see if you're giving an accurate transcript.
The subtlety is:
probabilities vs possibilities.
There is no contradiction in context.
no it's not
Listen to it within the context of the interview.
Please do. Rebroadcast is at 1pm PST
I think you'll find it very interesting. We must read between the lines of what Rumsfeld is heard saying in these tapes and what Dr. Paul is also saying..
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We all know Dr Paul has to
We all know Dr Paul has to be careful, look at the rabid anti-truthers on this site. Don't get me wrong I understand that these people don't buy the truther theory but you can see how pissed off they get if they think you even question the official story. These people are Ron's followers, what would the rest of non-followers do?
12:53pm central time
I missed it. How long was he on? Good??
He was on for 25 minutes. He
He was on for 25 minutes. He did mention the rally during the NRC and asked that all be courteous and well behaved. Wants people to turn out for the rally. Also said he doubted that he would be offered a time slot to speak at the convention. Talked about his book and also indicated he could not support any of the 3 candidates.
Thank you
I just can't keep up with that man!! Try as I might.
I'm in!
thanks.
He's on right now
12:39pm EST
I don't get it...
I coulda swore I heard Dr. Paul say he didn't care for Alex Jones...so why continue to support his show?
Perhaps...
...a plausible analogy might be:
Dr. Paul is responsible for his own words spoken and actions in Congress and in life, just because he is being interviewed by Fox News doesn't mean he subscribes to Sean Hannity. You know what I mean?
Another example is... Dr. Paul is unwilling to screen donors who give to the campaign for their beliefs (like the Neo-Nazi's) and puts the funds to good use on restoring constitutional principles.
"If men, throught fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any matural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renounciation. The right to freedom being the gift of G-d....
You are correct, and despite
You are correct, and despite the fact that I am not an avid Alex Jones fan, I am sick to death of this double-standard "guilty by association" non-argument! How does anyone get away with such a specious line of "reasoning", and WHY do we continue to let them do so? I mean, why isn't McCain "guilty" for his endorsement by Ann Coulter, for example?